Welcome to Sleeper's Tomb [Contested]

Kander · 10-23-2012, 02:21 PM

Welcome to Sleeper's Tomb. The Sleeper's Tomb has been unearthed by the Claws of Veeshan in the Eastern Wastes.

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jjlo69 · 10-26-2012, 06:12 PM

hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem.

Kander · 10-26-2012, 09:36 PM

Uncle@Mistmoore wrote:

hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem.

I have no idea what this means?

Twyxx · 10-26-2012, 09:55 PM

He's referring to the new range meter. In the pic the tank is listed as 25m away and the mob, seemingly next to the tank, is listed as 5m away. Though, I think that's just how hit boxes have always worked on big mobs, especially golems...like the elevator mob in Foundations of Stone.

tomsky · 10-26-2012, 10:47 PM

Twyxx wrote:

He's referring to the new range meter. In the pic the tank is listed as 25m away and the mob, seemingly next to the tank, is listed as 5m away. Though, I think that's just how hit boxes have always worked on big mobs, especially golems...like the elevator mob in Foundations of Stone.

This.

Hit boxes have always been a huge annoyance as a ranger, especially when some of them have excrutiatingly big hit boxes (Temple Elevator mob, Wyverns in UD), and even worse the ones with a mixed bunch of mobs (UD/ST mobs once again - Stand 30m from healers to hit the Wyvern and then have to run in 20m to be in proper range for the drakes).

We all understand mobs should have different sized hit boxes, but the variations on them can be really annoying at times, some that spring to mind include Milas HM, Theldek in UD, Temple Elevator Mob, all trash Wyverns in UD/ST.

Neiloch · 10-26-2012, 11:13 PM

I made a thread trying to catalog the mobs with stupid big hitboxes, got bumped down quite a bit. I didn't list them in each zone section since they were in several zones, perhaps I should.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=523523

As it is the hitboxes in contested ST make it so i would never want to run the place. If I had to for some reason I would want a seriously well tuned group. PUG's are out of the question.

Lethlian · 10-27-2012, 01:56 AM

This is so appropriate that all of this is finally being brought up and oh imagine that... of all classes in here posting about it, go figure its the ranger's that are verifiying this AND bringing in game proof of mechanics that work against only us. Hmmm maybe if we were like the rest of all the other 24 classes to choose from that don't have a minimun range requirement penalty.

jjlo69 · 10-27-2012, 01:54 PM

Kander wrote:

Uncle@Mistmoore wrote:
hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem.
I have no idea what this means?

sry was typing fast when i wrote this sinc ei was still trying to kill trash in that zone.. basicly as twyxx said another nice example of this is the huge APE in solo/heroic versions of temple of the faceless

Kander · 10-29-2012, 02:30 PM

I think we found the issue for Sleeper's Tomb, if you see this happening in any other zones this badly, PLEASE PM ME.

jjlo69 · 10-29-2012, 08:43 PM

well check other places after raids on live

Reptilgubben · 10-29-2012, 10:21 PM

why is it called contested when its an instance? only 1-6 players can be in the same zone. there is no quest lines or anything , just a normal instance no?

Kander · 10-30-2012, 02:16 PM

Reptilgubben wrote:

why is it called contested when its an instance? only 1-6 players can be in the same zone. there is no quest lines or anything , just a normal instance no?

There should be no limit to how many can be in the zone, it has no lock out timer.

Reptilgubben · 10-30-2012, 02:54 PM

maybe its fixxed, but tried to zone inn with a raid earlier and it said 1-6 players.

Kander · 10-30-2012, 03:36 PM

Reptilgubben wrote:

maybe its fixxed, but tried to zone inn with a raid earlier and it said 1-6 players.

I believe it will let you zone in with 12 now. No reason to use 24 there is no x4 contested in this Sleeper's Tomb version.

I will take a look at it.

Neiloch · 10-30-2012, 04:17 PM

HAHA. Tricked into confirming no x4's in ST contested. /fistpump As for the limit, if you really want more than 12 just split up before zoning in then reassemble. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

Kander · 10-30-2012, 05:21 PM

Neiloch@Butcherblock wrote:

HAHA. Tricked into confirming no x4's in ST contested. /fistpump As for the limit, if you really want more than 12 just split up before zoning in then reassemble. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

OK... lol

Neiloch · 10-30-2012, 06:02 PM

rofl, made my day

Kander · 11-02-2012, 03:01 PM

Adding some additional revives to the zone and lowering damage on a few spells.

a few bosses had overall HP lowered.

10-23-2012, 02:21 PM	#1
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Welcome to Sleeper's Tomb. The Sleeper's Tomb has been unearthed by the Claws of Veeshan in the Eastern Wastes. Please feel free to leave constructive feedback for Sleeper's Tomb [Contested] Here! __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-26-2012, 09:36 PM	#3
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Uncle@Mistmoore wrote: hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem. I have no idea what this means? __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-26-2012, 09:55 PM	#4
Twyxx Guardian Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: CA Posts: 244	He's referring to the new range meter. In the pic the tank is listed as 25m away and the mob, seemingly next to the tank, is listed as 5m away. Though, I think that's just how hit boxes have always worked on big mobs, especially golems...like the elevator mob in Foundations of Stone. __________________

10-26-2012, 10:47 PM	#5
tomsky Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 97	Twyxx wrote: He's referring to the new range meter. In the pic the tank is listed as 25m away and the mob, seemingly next to the tank, is listed as 5m away. Though, I think that's just how hit boxes have always worked on big mobs, especially golems...like the elevator mob in Foundations of Stone. This. Hit boxes have always been a huge annoyance as a ranger, especially when some of them have excrutiatingly big hit boxes (Temple Elevator mob, Wyverns in UD), and even worse the ones with a mixed bunch of mobs (UD/ST mobs once again - Stand 30m from healers to hit the Wyvern and then have to run in 20m to be in proper range for the drakes). We all understand mobs should have different sized hit boxes, but the variations on them can be really annoying at times, some that spring to mind include Milas HM, Theldek in UD, Temple Elevator Mob, all trash Wyverns in UD/ST. __________________

10-26-2012, 11:13 PM	#6
Neiloch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,430	I made a thread trying to catalog the mobs with stupid big hitboxes, got bumped down quite a bit. I didn't list them in each zone section since they were in several zones, perhaps I should. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=523523 As it is the hitboxes in contested ST make it so i would never want to run the place. If I had to for some reason I would want a seriously well tuned group. PUG's are out of the question. __________________

10-26-2012, 06:12 PM	#2
jjlo69 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 364	hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem.

10-27-2012, 01:56 AM	#7
Lethlian Lord Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 65	This is so appropriate that all of this is finally being brought up and oh imagine that... of all classes in here posting about it, go figure its the ranger's that are verifiying this AND bringing in game proof of mechanics that work against only us. Hmmm maybe if we were like the rest of all the other 24 classes to choose from that don't have a minimun range requirement penalty.

10-27-2012, 01:54 PM	#8
jjlo69 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 364	Kander wrote: Uncle@Mistmoore wrote: hit boxes on golems in this zone are messed up since a dev put i range on targets i can show you with this pic what i mean. notice the tank is at 25 meters away yet im at 5 meters targeting the golem. I have no idea what this means? sry was typing fast when i wrote this sinc ei was still trying to kill trash in that zone.. basicly as twyxx said another nice example of this is the huge APE in solo/heroic versions of temple of the faceless

10-29-2012, 02:30 PM	#9
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	I think we found the issue for Sleeper's Tomb, if you see this happening in any other zones this badly, PLEASE PM ME. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-29-2012, 08:43 PM	#10
jjlo69 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 364	well check other places after raids on live

10-29-2012, 10:21 PM	#11
Reptilgubben Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	why is it called contested when its an instance? only 1-6 players can be in the same zone. there is no quest lines or anything , just a normal instance no?

10-30-2012, 02:16 PM	#12
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Reptilgubben wrote: why is it called contested when its an instance? only 1-6 players can be in the same zone. there is no quest lines or anything , just a normal instance no? There should be no limit to how many can be in the zone, it has no lock out timer. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-30-2012, 02:54 PM	#13
Reptilgubben Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 48	maybe its fixxed, but tried to zone inn with a raid earlier and it said 1-6 players.

10-30-2012, 03:36 PM	#14
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Reptilgubben wrote: maybe its fixxed, but tried to zone inn with a raid earlier and it said 1-6 players. I believe it will let you zone in with 12 now. No reason to use 24 there is no x4 contested in this Sleeper's Tomb version. I will take a look at it. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-30-2012, 04:17 PM	#15
Neiloch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,430	HAHA. Tricked into confirming no x4's in ST contested. /fistpump As for the limit, if you really want more than 12 just split up before zoning in then reassemble. I don't see why that wouldn't work. __________________

10-30-2012, 05:21 PM	#16
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Neiloch@Butcherblock wrote: HAHA. Tricked into confirming no x4's in ST contested. /fistpump As for the limit, if you really want more than 12 just split up before zoning in then reassemble. I don't see why that wouldn't work. OK... lol __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

10-30-2012, 06:02 PM	#17
Neiloch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,430	rofl, made my day __________________

11-02-2012, 03:01 PM	#18
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	Adding some additional revives to the zone and lowering damage on a few spells. a few bosses had overall HP lowered. __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">