Expansion 9 and the Werewolf Merc

carmin · 10-16-2012, 04:17 PM

Does anyone have any information on this new Merc with the collectors addition?

What class is it? How much will you pay for it to use? Will all your toons get to use it? And anything else.

NrthnStar5 · 10-16-2012, 04:24 PM

Doesn't it make you wonder why they release this info without details? Do they really think these questions will not be asked?

carmin · 10-16-2012, 04:30 PM

LOL Yeah I know I have have questions for every expansion it seems. It would just be easier if when they list the stuff they gave an explanation for what it is and does.

decator666 · 10-16-2012, 04:58 PM

Yes good question...we want details...Are the mercs free to use and do they have tank or heal or both options. That is the $20 question.

redwoodtreesprite · 10-16-2012, 05:40 PM

Yeah, the merc is the only thing that MIGHT make the full version worth getting. I really don't care about the consumables. And a tapestry does not make all that extra cost worth it.

Zergosch · 10-16-2012, 06:08 PM

yeah, i´m def sad about pricing, the extra goodies dont count up for the extra bucks, as long as there is no info about the merc

Grumble69 · 10-16-2012, 06:28 PM

The CE really comes down to the merc. Is there anything that differentiates him from the other mercs aside from being a WW?

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I'm outright guessing but I'm betting that it'll be similar to the vamp merc from fan fair. i.e. some hybrid in-between normal mercs and elite mercs. Would that be worth the extra $20?

yohann koldheart · 10-16-2012, 06:58 PM

Grumble69 wrote:

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I'm outright guessing but I'm betting that it'll be similar to the vamp merc from fan fair. i.e. some hybrid in-between normal mercs and elite mercs. Would that be worth the extra $20?

if its as good as the ff merc and is available to every toon on the account then id say yes. but if its 1 per account the no way im paying the extra 20 bucks

ToRch20003 · 10-16-2012, 08:42 PM

Even with the preorder discount soe is out of their minds asking 60 bucks for that %@#% they call extras.

Valdak · 10-17-2012, 09:04 AM

I agree, the merc is the only thing that might make a $20 difference. Personally I hope no one preorders until they come across with some information.

denmom · 10-18-2012, 01:06 AM

What makes me shake my head is that AoD is not included with CoE but DoV is. However, you need AoC to be able to use the merc.

So if someone doesn't have these two and was depending on getting them via CoE, they'll be lacking the very one that they need and will be forced to purchase AoD.

I don't see why they just don't include AoD in the collector's edition, after all, it is needed for the merc, and the merc is one of the goodies for the CE.

SlashnGut · 10-18-2012, 11:19 AM

Sony's way of forcing people to fork over more money plain and simple. You want the merc and to be able to use it you buy 2 expansions (ahem 1 expansion and 1 "feature pack"). Why should you be allowed to use content you have paid for?

/sarcasm off

Grumble69 · 10-18-2012, 02:45 PM

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

What makes me shake my head is that AoD is not included with CoE but DoV is. However, you need AoC to be able to use the merc.
So if someone doesn't have these two and was depending on getting them via CoE, they'll be lacking the very one that they need and will be forced to purchase AoD.
I don't see why they just don't include AoD in the collector's edition, after all, it is needed for the merc, and the merc is one of the goodies for the CE.

This.

Let's face it--if people haven't bought AoD by now, they're probably not going to do so. It's not like SOE would be cutting into their revenue stream. But if you package AoD with the CE, I could see a fair number of people that would go for it (who would ordinarily just go for the normal expansion).

Personally I think it needs a little some extra to entice the folks that already have AoD. e.g. a loyalty mount for the folks that have already purchased AoD separately. Or a loyalty house item (e.g. teleportation portal, some type of temporary minor buff, etc). Or a couple of vitality potions. Something. As it currently stands, I'm seeing a merc for $20 and I'm just not feeling it.

Pakhet · 10-18-2012, 03:16 PM

Yeah they could include AoD, would make sense. But, oh well, SoE is not exactly logical. o.O

Still waiting on info on this merc though before I order...

Regolas · 10-18-2012, 06:33 PM

I can almost guarantee the merc will be slightly better than standard mercs but not elite level. Just like the Fan Faire one. It will have unique spells/CAs but similar stats to standard mercs. And it will be a fighter/dps. Whoever heard of a werewolf priest?? You will claim it and have to pay the fee and upkeep like currently. If dismissed, it will be rehirable in the city like normal mercs. There's no way they're going to give everyone elite mercs just yet. Elite mercs are like having a raid geared buddy with you at all times. They're too overpowered for everyone to have.

Brigh · 10-18-2012, 07:07 PM

Start watching the live streams starting tonight. This sort of makes me just want to start playing EQ I again with their better packs, or maybe LoTRO's Riders of Rohan expansion. I haven't played past the Evendim / Shadows of Angmar times back then.

The way captains buff groups I really loved. Something that EQ paladins are lacking. My burglar was fun too. Something else rogue types in EQ I/ II is lacking with their abilities (Vanguard rogues have the similar sneaking mechanic).

GreeNeVo_fr · 10-19-2012, 02:02 AM

From a french page :

Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =)

( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm )

yohann koldheart · 10-19-2012, 06:22 PM

GreeNeVo_fr wrote:

From a french page :
Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =)
( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm )

most likley thats false info, soe said it was a werewolf merc not a gnome. and a werewolf paly wouldnt really make sence being werewolfs are a cursed form of undeadish animal. less the gnome morfs into a werewolf when the norathian moon is full or something.

Raveen · 10-19-2012, 08:08 PM

Like some of the other posters have said I'm gonna wait on the preorder till I get more info on the merc. I'm sure the painting or whatever will be beautiful as they do a great job with that but its really the merc thats gonna be the sell point. The temps are cool for new toons but are just nice fluf lol. Most of my toons use the Inq or Temp my healers use the Pali or dirge mostly so if its gonna be a scout I would hope it puts out crazy dps SMILEY Now it would be nice if you guys at SOE tossed a nice bonus in like a house SMILEY

Brigh · 10-20-2012, 12:29 AM

yohann koldheart wrote:

GreeNeVo_fr wrote:
From a french page :
Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =)
( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm )
most likley thats false info, soe said it was a werewolf merc not a gnome. and a werewolf paly wouldnt really make sence being werewolfs are a cursed form of undeadish animal. less the gnome morfs into a werewolf when the norathian moon is full or something.

WW are not undead.

denmom · 10-20-2012, 05:39 PM

Holly has been quoted as saying the merc is a Paladin or could be a healer choice. This is in the thread up at the Community forum about CoE.

What's not given clearly, tho, is whether the "healer choice" means that you just get to choose the healer and it's whatever SOE decided to make it OR it's a choice of what type of healer for it to be (Shaman/Cleric/Druid). I'm looking for info on that.

swedago · 10-22-2012, 03:20 AM

The choice is as follows:

Werewolf Paladin OR Werewolf Healer (type to be determined soon =P)

Windstalker · 10-22-2012, 04:28 AM

This is true. We haven't decided. I just made and announced the decision yesterday. Gninja - who had a big hand in this addition also - will talk over those details with Lyndro this week. We will let you know when we've got it nailed down.

Ultimately, after some chats at SOE Live and other feedback here, there was a general request for another healer (we also just gave an SK to SOE Live folks). It was a fair request and good suggestion so we are doing it, happily!

redwoodtreesprite · 10-26-2012, 12:12 AM

I forgot in which thread where this was mentioned, but the lujien was mentioned as what the merc would look like. If this is the case, then I would be very happy, as the lujien look kindof like werelynxes to me.

denmom · 10-26-2012, 01:17 AM

The lujian is Paladin or Templar. Announced in the Community forum.

Nothing else on if it's elite or standard, if it has upkeep cost or not. Just what class they are.

redwoodtreesprite · 10-26-2012, 02:12 AM

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

The lujian is Paladin or Templar. Announced in the Community forum.
Nothing else on if it's elite or standard, if it has upkeep cost or not. Just what class they are.

I was watching my son playing the beta today, and I really do like the look of the lujians. Think I will change one of my other accounts preorders to the full version now.

10-16-2012, 04:58 PM	#4
decator666 Champion Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 160	Yes good question...we want details...Are the mercs free to use and do they have tank or heal or both options. That is the $20 question. __________________ 92 Provisioner 92 Carpenter 92 Weaponsmith 92 Woodworker 92 Tailor 92 Armorsmith 92 Scribe

10-16-2012, 06:58 PM	#8
yohann koldheart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: harrisburg,PA Posts: 1,601	Grumble69 wrote: --------- I'm outright guessing but I'm betting that it'll be similar to the vamp merc from fan fair. i.e. some hybrid in-between normal mercs and elite mercs. Would that be worth the extra $20? if its as good as the ff merc and is available to every toon on the account then id say yes. but if its 1 per account the no way im paying the extra 20 bucks

10-18-2012, 01:06 AM	#11
denmom Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paradigm Clutch: Never shift reality without one... Posts: 2,490	What makes me shake my head is that AoD is not included with CoE but DoV is. However, you need AoC to be able to use the merc. So if someone doesn't have these two and was depending on getting them via CoE, they'll be lacking the very one that they need and will be forced to purchase AoD. I don't see why they just don't include AoD in the collector's edition, after all, it is needed for the merc, and the merc is one of the goodies for the CE. __________________ What I do when not playing EQ2: Paradigm Clutch

10-18-2012, 11:19 AM	#12
SlashnGut Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 236	Sony's way of forcing people to fork over more money plain and simple. You want the merc and to be able to use it you buy 2 expansions (ahem 1 expansion and 1 "feature pack"). Why should you be allowed to use content you have paid for? /sarcasm off __________________ Hakdagutz 92 Guardian/92 Weaponsmith Sucha 92 Conjuror/92 Sage Mrshal 92 Monk/92 Carpenter Bloodwingg 92 Necromancer/92 Tailor Tior 92 Warlock/92 Provisioner Holyer 92 Paladin/92 Armoror Grogg 90 Berserker/92 Alchemist Etat 90 Bruiser/92 Jeweler Dawizz 90 Wizard/92 Woodworker Punting 90 Brigand Kountdracula 90 Dirge Omgiman 92 Warden

10-18-2012, 02:45 PM	#13
Grumble69 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,257	Pheep@Unrest wrote: What makes me shake my head is that AoD is not included with CoE but DoV is. However, you need AoC to be able to use the merc. So if someone doesn't have these two and was depending on getting them via CoE, they'll be lacking the very one that they need and will be forced to purchase AoD. I don't see why they just don't include AoD in the collector's edition, after all, it is needed for the merc, and the merc is one of the goodies for the CE. This. Let's face it--if people haven't bought AoD by now, they're probably not going to do so. It's not like SOE would be cutting into their revenue stream. But if you package AoD with the CE, I could see a fair number of people that would go for it (who would ordinarily just go for the normal expansion). Personally I think it needs a little some extra to entice the folks that already have AoD. e.g. a loyalty mount for the folks that have already purchased AoD separately. Or a loyalty house item (e.g. teleportation portal, some type of temporary minor buff, etc). Or a couple of vitality potions. Something. As it currently stands, I'm seeing a merc for $20 and I'm just not feeling it.

10-16-2012, 04:17 PM	#1
carmin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 43	Does anyone have any information on this new Merc with the collectors addition? What class is it? How much will you pay for it to use? Will all your toons get to use it? And anything else.

10-16-2012, 04:24 PM	#2
NrthnStar5 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 369	Doesn't it make you wonder why they release this info without details? Do they really think these questions will not be asked?

10-16-2012, 04:30 PM	#3
carmin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 43	LOL Yeah I know I have have questions for every expansion it seems. It would just be easier if when they list the stuff they gave an explanation for what it is and does.

10-16-2012, 05:40 PM	#5
redwoodtreesprite Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 266	Yeah, the merc is the only thing that MIGHT make the full version worth getting. I really don't care about the consumables. And a tapestry does not make all that extra cost worth it.

10-16-2012, 06:08 PM	#6
Zergosch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 461	yeah, i´m def sad about pricing, the extra goodies dont count up for the extra bucks, as long as there is no info about the merc

10-16-2012, 06:28 PM	#7
Grumble69 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,257	The CE really comes down to the merc. Is there anything that differentiates him from the other mercs aside from being a WW? --------- I'm outright guessing but I'm betting that it'll be similar to the vamp merc from fan fair. i.e. some hybrid in-between normal mercs and elite mercs. Would that be worth the extra $20?

10-16-2012, 08:42 PM	#9
ToRch20003 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 12	Even with the preorder discount soe is out of their minds asking 60 bucks for that %@#% they call extras.

10-17-2012, 09:04 AM	#10
Valdak Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	I agree, the merc is the only thing that might make a $20 difference. Personally I hope no one preorders until they come across with some information.

10-18-2012, 03:16 PM	#14
Pakhet Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 239	Yeah they could include AoD, would make sense. But, oh well, SoE is not exactly logical. o.O Still waiting on info on this merc though before I order...

10-18-2012, 06:33 PM	#15
Regolas Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 603	I can almost guarantee the merc will be slightly better than standard mercs but not elite level. Just like the Fan Faire one. It will have unique spells/CAs but similar stats to standard mercs. And it will be a fighter/dps. Whoever heard of a werewolf priest?? You will claim it and have to pay the fee and upkeep like currently. If dismissed, it will be rehirable in the city like normal mercs. There's no way they're going to give everyone elite mercs just yet. Elite mercs are like having a raid geared buddy with you at all times. They're too overpowered for everyone to have.

10-18-2012, 07:07 PM	#16
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Start watching the live streams starting tonight. This sort of makes me just want to start playing EQ I again with their better packs, or maybe LoTRO's Riders of Rohan expansion. I haven't played past the Evendim / Shadows of Angmar times back then. The way captains buff groups I really loved. Something that EQ paladins are lacking. My burglar was fun too. Something else rogue types in EQ I/ II is lacking with their abilities (Vanguard rogues have the similar sneaking mechanic). __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

10-19-2012, 02:02 AM	#17
GreeNeVo_fr Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21	From a french page : Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =) ( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm )

10-19-2012, 06:22 PM	#18
yohann koldheart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: harrisburg,PA Posts: 1,601	GreeNeVo_fr wrote: From a french page : Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =) ( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm ) most likley thats false info, soe said it was a werewolf merc not a gnome. and a werewolf paly wouldnt really make sence being werewolfs are a cursed form of undeadish animal. less the gnome morfs into a werewolf when the norathian moon is full or something.

10-19-2012, 08:08 PM	#19
Raveen Server: Permafrost Guild: Re Evolution Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 69	Like some of the other posters have said I'm gonna wait on the preorder till I get more info on the merc. I'm sure the painting or whatever will be beautiful as they do a great job with that but its really the merc thats gonna be the sell point. The temps are cool for new toons but are just nice fluf lol. Most of my toons use the Inq or Temp my healers use the Pali or dirge mostly so if its gonna be a scout I would hope it puts out crazy dps Now it would be nice if you guys at SOE tossed a nice bonus in like a house

10-20-2012, 12:29 AM	#20
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	yohann koldheart wrote: GreeNeVo_fr wrote: From a french page : Kern Tinmaker Mercenaire paladin gnome ... Woot ?! =) ( http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2012/...-en-details.htm ) most likley thats false info, soe said it was a werewolf merc not a gnome. and a werewolf paly wouldnt really make sence being werewolfs are a cursed form of undeadish animal. less the gnome morfs into a werewolf when the norathian moon is full or something. WW are not undead. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

10-20-2012, 05:39 PM	#21
denmom Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paradigm Clutch: Never shift reality without one... Posts: 2,490	Holly has been quoted as saying the merc is a Paladin or could be a healer choice. This is in the thread up at the Community forum about CoE. What's not given clearly, tho, is whether the "healer choice" means that you just get to choose the healer and it's whatever SOE decided to make it OR it's a choice of what type of healer for it to be (Shaman/Cleric/Druid). I'm looking for info on that. __________________ What I do when not playing EQ2: Paradigm Clutch

10-22-2012, 03:20 AM	#22
swedago Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 377	The choice is as follows: Werewolf Paladin OR Werewolf Healer (type to be determined soon =P) __________________

10-22-2012, 04:28 AM	#23
Windstalker Senior Staff Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 68	This is true. We haven't decided. I just made and announced the decision yesterday. Gninja - who had a big hand in this addition also - will talk over those details with Lyndro this week. We will let you know when we've got it nailed down. Ultimately, after some chats at SOE Live and other feedback here, there was a general request for another healer (we also just gave an SK to SOE Live folks). It was a fair request and good suggestion so we are doing it, happily! __________________ Holly "Windstalker" Longdale Producer EverQuest II

10-26-2012, 12:12 AM	#24
redwoodtreesprite Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 266	I forgot in which thread where this was mentioned, but the lujien was mentioned as what the merc would look like. If this is the case, then I would be very happy, as the lujien look kindof like werelynxes to me.

10-26-2012, 01:17 AM	#25
denmom Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paradigm Clutch: Never shift reality without one... Posts: 2,490	The lujian is Paladin or Templar. Announced in the Community forum. Nothing else on if it's elite or standard, if it has upkeep cost or not. Just what class they are. __________________ What I do when not playing EQ2: Paradigm Clutch

10-26-2012, 02:12 AM	#26
redwoodtreesprite Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 266	Pheep@Unrest wrote: The lujian is Paladin or Templar. Announced in the Community forum. Nothing else on if it's elite or standard, if it has upkeep cost or not. Just what class they are. I was watching my son playing the beta today, and I really do like the look of the lujians. Think I will change one of my other accounts preorders to the full version now.