What is the point of the Focuses... if they don't even modify your spells properly.

xpraetorianx · 07-24-2012, 06:24 PM

For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds..

If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule.

I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo.

Luhai · 07-25-2012, 04:50 AM

I love the conjuror Stoneskin focus. It decreases your reuse time (when most mages at 92 have 100% anyway) AND it halves the recovery time of the Stoneskin, making it 0.25 seconds. Now that's what we all have been looking for.

Those things are nice for scouts and tanks, for mages and healers they're pretty meh.

DamselInDistress · 07-25-2012, 05:26 AM

xpraetorianx wrote:

For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds..
If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule.
I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo.

funny, there was a discussion about Voice of the ancestors on the In-Testing forums. no red name bothered to reply. The devs simply don't get that this particular focus is not actually doing anything.

Mermut · 07-25-2012, 11:42 AM

If you look closer, most (I can't vouch for all since I don't have one of each class) of the foci that modify reuse also add a bit of crit bonus to the spell/art in question now.

Solarax · 07-26-2012, 01:30 PM

xpraetorianx wrote:

For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds..
If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule.
I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo.

i petitioned this in 2 of the choices i was testing and basically had a response of you are worng because i got the buffs and if you go over the cap its your fault for not knowing the cap. keep in mind i said in reply previous to that , if its not possible to apply the bonuses , that it should state it in the description of the focus.....

Gargamel · 07-28-2012, 12:54 PM

Once upon a time reuse was a VERY rare stat... it made me proud to sacrifice tons of cool abilities for a super useful jesters cap on my troub.

These days I can often get tells from a healer or someone in a group I was attempting to help with a jcap, that they are already capped on it and I should give it to someone else.

Too bad there is no overcap on it either, so the secondary effects of jcap are the only useful things for people on cap. Though cap is easier to get for some classes than others, so there is always that (for now)

07-25-2012, 04:50 AM	#2
Luhai Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 679	I love the conjuror Stoneskin focus. It decreases your reuse time (when most mages at 92 have 100% anyway) AND it halves the recovery time of the Stoneskin, making it 0.25 seconds. Now that's what we all have been looking for. Those things are nice for scouts and tanks, for mages and healers they're pretty meh. __________________

07-25-2012, 05:26 AM	#3
DamselInDistress Champion Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 510	xpraetorianx wrote: For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds.. If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule. I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo. funny, there was a discussion about Voice of the ancestors on the In-Testing forums. no red name bothered to reply. The devs simply don't get that this particular focus is not actually doing anything.

07-25-2012, 11:42 AM	#4
Mermut Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 852	If you look closer, most (I can't vouch for all since I don't have one of each class) of the foci that modify reuse also add a bit of crit bonus to the spell/art in question now. __________________ I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, But not hang it by the neck until dead.

07-26-2012, 01:30 PM	#5
Solarax Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 487	xpraetorianx wrote: For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds.. If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule. I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo. i petitioned this in 2 of the choices i was testing and basically had a response of you are worng because i got the buffs and if you go over the cap its your fault for not knowing the cap. keep in mind i said in reply previous to that , if its not possible to apply the bonuses , that it should state it in the description of the focus.....

07-28-2012, 12:54 PM	#6
Gargamel Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 708	Once upon a time reuse was a VERY rare stat... it made me proud to sacrifice tons of cool abilities for a super useful jesters cap on my troub. These days I can often get tells from a healer or someone in a group I was attempting to help with a jcap, that they are already capped on it and I should give it to someone else. Too bad there is no overcap on it either, so the secondary effects of jcap are the only useful things for people on cap. Though cap is easier to get for some classes than others, so there is always that (for now) __________________ Willlow Halfling Troubadour Carpenter Antonia Bayle EQ2 Map -- The most essential eq2 plugin EQ2LLInks -- Which mobs drop what from where Advanced Combat Tracker -- The best combat parser and tracker (NOTE: All of the above are approved and sactioned for use by SoE and do not violate the Terms of Service in any way, so use 'em!) .

07-24-2012, 06:24 PM	#1
xpraetorianx Fansite Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 419	For spells like Shockwave for the coercer... or Voice of the Ancestors for Defilers... that reduce reuse time by like 15 seconds.. If you are already at cap for reuse which it is NOT hard to get with even moderate gear.. why are these focuses here if they are just "wasted" choices? Honestly these focuses should still work despite the reuse cap rule. I am sure there are other classes and other skills that are affected and wasted as Focus choices..but still. Its a pretty blatant oversight imo.