Lyceum Challenge Mode Loot Extremely Disproportionate

[Gaarysal]

As the title says the loot from Lyceum of the Recondite [Challenge] is completely disproportionate to the zone or even the other skyshrine loot. The green stats are way too low and most of the blue stats are low as well.

In the screenshot below, the legendary neck comes from the normal mode of Lyceum and the fabled neck comes from Termagore challenge mode. The first charm comes from trash in Covenant District [Challenge] and it is appropriately statted, the second charm on the far right came off the end boss of Lyceum challenge, as you can see the green stats are very low as well as the pot/cb, multi attack, and crit compared to the other challenge mode charm.

These are just a few examples, the mage wrist and ring? we got last night had a similar issue with the stats being low, unfortunately I don't have a link handy to those items.

[crackers_87]

Wow! Yeah thats messed up.

[Lethlian]

Yeah this definitely needs to get bumped.

The same problem the OP made with Lyceum Challenge is the same with Covenant District Challenge as well.

I'm not as tech savy as the OP so I don't exactly know how to image link the items, but I got a ring that has the 122 to stats and lower blue stats then a heroic version of it from normal Covenant District. Its basically the same as the OP's neck comparrisons (which yes is totally jacked up)

I petitioned it, but have yet to get a response. =/

Hopefully a red name will see the OP's post and take a look at the disproportionate loot that the HM instances' of Sky Shrine are dropping.

Respectfully,

Lethlain

[Lethlian]

Bump

[Talathion]

HM Ring only has 121 Str/Sta/Agi, and has 14% MA and 12% DPS/Atk Speed/7.5% Potency/Crit Bonus.. lol...

My legendary ring has 151 str/sta/agi, 70% MA, 20% Atk Speed, 7.5% Potency/Crit Bonus.

[Lizbein]

In addition, I've been shown armor pieces that are purchasable by a faction merchant that are better than the armor that drops in the Hard Mode Instances.  Seems rather backwards that doing a questline for a day to gain faction should yield better rewards than 6 people working together with some of the best gear in game taking down the suposedly "most challenging" group content in the game.

What incentive does anyone have to run instances given this?

Please address this issue and fix it asap.  As it stands, I may just stop running instances completely and since that's all I do in game.. i don't see much of a drive to login.

[Gaarysal]

Lizbein wrote:

In addition, I've been shown armor pieces that are purchasable by a faction merchant that are better than the armor that drops in the Hard Mode Instances.  Seems rather backwards that doing a questline for a day to gain faction should yield better rewards than 6 people working together with some of the best gear in game taking down the suposedly "most challenging" group content in the game.

What incentive does anyone have to run instances given this?

Please address this issue and fix it asap.  As it stands, I may just stop running instances completely and since that's all I do in game.. i don't see much of a drive to login.

I don't really mind the faction gear being the best heroic armor attainable if that is their plan, however if thats the case they need to replace the HM set with other loot especially jewelry since its generally very scarce this expansion. It really sucks clearing all of CD HM hoping to get a myth or charm just to get a crappy helmet that barely even sells for 100p.

Another suggestion might be to do something like WoE gear where you loot a pattern or something and combine it with the faction armor to make a new piece... could even just let you combine the current HM armor with the faction set to serve this purpose.

[Gaarysal]

Did anyone even check these loottables? All of the necks have earring names and pictures, here is an example.

 

[tutur]

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[Kenpachii]

Yes could you please fix the loot from this instance? Just needs to be up with the other CM instances

[Sinaya]

Lyceum (Challenge) is generally supposed to fall above Covenant District (Challenge) in terms of difficulty, correct? As it stands now, the loot from Covenant District is significantly better.

Most of the items from Challenge Mode Covenant District (including trash drops) bear 9.1 Potency and Crit Bonus, which other appropriately high green and blue stats.

The items from Challenge Mode Lyceum on the other hand, while supposedly the more difficult of the two zones, typically only have 7.3 Potency and Crit Bonus, and other stats lower than both the Fabled (8.6) and Legendary items (7.5) that come from Contested Skyshrine.

It would be great if the items from Challenge Lyceum could be brought at least up to par with the items from Challenge Covenant District.

[Gaarysal]

5/17 patch completely ignored lyceum loot please fix this asap

[Lethlian]

Gaarysal@Permafrost wrote:

5/17 patch completely ignored lyceum loot please fix this asap

Oh don't worry they missed all of Covenant District as well.

I'm honestly starting to wonder if you can even believe the hotfixs now, or if they're just straight up lying and trolling us.

You know honestly I don't even care anymore. I used to get worked up / frustrated by stuff like this (and rightfully/logically so as a paying customer) but now its just.....I dont care.

regards~

[Kenpachii]

This still hasnt been fixed. Can you guys get on it please, why fix some of DP loot but not lyceum or CD?

[Listad12]

bumping this so soe can ignore...errr fix it

[Lempo]

Gaarysal@Permafrost wrote:

Did anyone even check these loottables? All of the necks have earring names and pictures, here is an example. 

No.

The wrists say they are belts on some drops too.

If anyone was responsible for reviewing this they 'phoned it in', it is either that or they honestly tried but are so completely lacking in knowledge of the games mechanics that the result it truly the best they could do. I think that is entirely plausible at this point. There is also an issue with the desire to cram as many blue stats as possible on items so that the reforging efforts that were put in to the game are less and less useful on many items while they allow gear that is benefitting from a signifigant reforging bug to remain in the game but only available to those that had the items before the nerf and took measured steps (like reforging 1 HP from the stat they wanted to protect, yes 1 HP) before the change came to live servers. Before that gear would have been nerfed to its intended level but reforging protected it.

[Gaarysal]

Bump. If I frown via webcam at my gear long enough will it fix itself?

[Slowin]

Would also like to see this addressed.

[Sigmaz01]

Bump! fix this please!

[thorn]

I got a legendary neck off a named in heroic UD with 41 crit chance on it. The overall stats are better than my HM drunder neck, lol.

[Sinaya]

Is there a chance that this gear being brought up to par is in the works? There was a hotfix a few weeks ago that stated some of the gear had been upgraded, but didn't specify which pieces.

Bunji wrote: (Thursday, May 17th, 2012)

ITEMS

Fixed a bug where "item score" would show in the examine window on some items.

The quality of several pieces of Skyshrine heroic challenge mode loot has been increased.

Plane of War gear should now have 2 white adornment slots.

The following mounts are now flagged Heirloom:

Blue Nightmare with Blue Saddle

Grey Cavalry Horse with War-barding

Onyx Armored Rhino

Russet Warg

It does not appear that Lyceum's loot was included in that update.

[Laenai]

Even if there is, we won't hear anything for the next couple weeks.

They're all getting drunk at E3 this week and will be hungover next week.

[Slowin]

This is really, really frustrating.  Finally killed termagore the butcher on challenge mode only to be rewarded with a fabled necklace worse than ezmode.  Literally was not an upgrade for anyone in group in its current state.  Just repeating what the OP clearly showed with screenshots.

Is it really that tiny a population of people that go in and attempt these challenge zones that this is such a low priority?  

Please fix this.

[Neiloch]

I don't know what the deal is with this loot. The procs are AWESOME but otherwise the stats are froogin terrible. Its like they put challenge procs on ezmode loot but then forgot about the rest of the stats.

[Laserbeak010]

BUMP. have Scout charm on my Main assassin. Amazing wild swings proc... ran HM lyc many many times to get it... but stats are soo dang dissapointing.. SONY PLEASE FIX THE DANG STATS. If I wasnt in a Raiding guild and able to get good loot to make up for the bad stats.. but was skilled enough to clear HM lyc... id be pretty mad about this.. oh wait.. i still am mad. Plz sony. stop messing around. fix the loot in THE HM ZONES.

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[Kenpachii]

Lyceum of the Recondite [challenge]: Items have had qualities improved

Hopefully they actually upgraded the items! About time

[Gaarysal]

Kenpachii wrote:

Lyceum of the Recondite [challenge]: Items have had qualities improved

Hopefully they actually upgraded the items! About time

wow it's a miracle! and they got the underdepths challenge loot in the same sweep!? Too bad some dracur stuff is still a bit out of whack but it's not nearly as bad as lyceum was. Thank you to whichever dev is responsible for fixing this!

[Slowin]

Nevermind -- I didn't see this in my first read through test update notes.. but sure enough.  S'pose it won't go live till next week's hotfix though eh?  

either way.. glad to see it was addressed!

[Kapath]

Kenpachii wrote:

Lyceum of the Recondite [challenge]: Items have had qualities improved

Hopefully they actually upgraded the items! About time