Plane of War Gear Nerf.

Shotneedle · 04-14-2012, 10:17 PM

I mean, a few pieces were OP, sure (preadtor hat/gloves, rogue boots/bracers, etc). But really? We've been asking for fixes to the few bad pieces, so you destroy all the good pieces as a price? I'd rather have the gear back the way it was. You've basically killed the fun of PoW letting lootscript 6000 itemize it. The mythical cloaks are bad and no one is looking forward to them (half the classes will probably wear a drunder red slot cloak over it) so all we have is the regular gear to get us excited.

Geothe · 04-14-2012, 10:19 PM

I dont understand how someone could thing doing this gear change was actually a good idea?

Seriously, its a freaking joke.

Vinyard · 04-14-2012, 10:20 PM

Itemization is the one thing the devs never respond to.

They will respond to craftin concerns

They will respond to SC concerns

They will respond to the Coldwind King Crab.

But Itemization bugs, which have been reported since DRUNDER, have yet to see a red name comment on them at all.

Shotneedle · 04-14-2012, 10:24 PM

Hey guys, let's itemize melee stats on priest gear, then take it all away.

Vinyard · 04-14-2012, 10:25 PM

Uhhhh priests should be using a 1h + shield, and if they wanna do damage, they should just use their ranged wepaon. right? right?

Geothe · 04-14-2012, 10:27 PM

Spelll weapon attack is freaking awesome!!@!!

/rolls eyes

Shotneedle · 04-14-2012, 11:34 PM

Oh god. Mythical cloaks got upgraded and they're even worse now.

Morghus · 04-15-2012, 12:11 AM

Q: How useful and relevant will Destiny of Velious Part 1 be after Game Update 63 (book 2 of DoV)? Lyndro: Right now, DoV is the current “end of the game”. So it won’t be as relevant since it’s content you level through rather than stopping and playing forever. It’s our goal that you still have some equipment that you acquire through Velious Part 1 content that you still want to use. But it’s hard to have new content yet have it all stay at the same tier. Lyndro: For people who are doing Plane of War, that will continue to be the best gear for quite some time.

I guess, their definition of "quite some time" is until we get heroic/easy mode raid drops.

Shotneedle · 04-15-2012, 01:25 AM

aITEM 631930967 1900565714:Conjuror's Banner of War/a

aITEM 17926794 1266013535 0:[Scaled Cloak of the Archmagus]/a

Class Mythical Cloak (Rallos Zek drop?), Crafted Cloak.

/thread

Neiloch · 04-15-2012, 01:59 AM

Morghus@Butcherblock wrote:

Lyndro: For people who are doing Plane of War, that will continue to be the best gear for quite some time.

I love that loot changes didn't get pushed to test until AFTER they said that. Like it really wasn't their intention for PoW to last but then a promise was made publicly that it would, so they had to rev up the script program and get out their spreadsheets to adjust gear.

Doesn't matter if the math checks out when you assign incorrect values to the variables. I wouldn't trust these guys to do my nieces math homework.

If you want an easy solution devs here is what you do. Find the best heroic attainable/crafted gear in the Skyshrine update, then make ALL of Plane of War gear significantly better than that. It would at the very least be a nice start. It would also probably need to be better than some if not all of the easier skyshrine raiding content drops/crafts as well.

If you don't like that idea you only have yourself to blame. Maybe next time you won't make content so broken it can't be killed before the next push of content.

Wirewhisker · 04-15-2012, 03:53 AM

Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Itemization is the one thing the devs never respond to.
They will respond to craftin concerns
They will respond to SC concerns
They will respond to the Coldwind King Crab.
But Itemization bugs, which have been reported since DRUNDER, have yet to see a red name comment on them at all.

Gaeablock · 04-15-2012, 10:24 AM

Awesomesauce. Well at least the Coldwind King Crab and Nexus Scion are working now.

I was getting worried.

Kryvak · 04-15-2012, 10:59 AM

This is honestly just ridiculous. I was excited when they said PoW would be the top tier gear; nobody on lots of servers has even seen the zone and it looked like it was going to become irrelevant. I want a reason to run it over the top raid zone in GU63, and this definitely isn't the way to give that. Someone at SOE needs to get their act together and figure out what's going on.

Kenelven · 04-15-2012, 12:24 PM

Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?

Kryvak · 04-15-2012, 12:46 PM

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?

The problem is that this isn't old content when only 4 guilds in the entire game have killed a named mob in it. If it hasn't been done yet, there should be a reason to do it.

Shotneedle · 04-15-2012, 01:04 PM

Kryvak@Everfrost wrote:

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?
The problem is that this isn't old content when only 4 guilds in the entire game have killed a named mob in it. If it hasn't been done yet, there should be a reason to do it.

6. Soon to be 8.

feldon30 · 04-16-2012, 06:13 AM

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?

"Old content" is content that started being killed 30 days ago?

Kenelven · 04-16-2012, 10:08 AM

feldon30 wrote:

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?
"Old content" is content that started being killed 30 days ago?

Appearantly not in your definition, but is there really a concrete definition of old content? In my opinion (and yes i get it, its just my opinion. But it is why i said it.) Old content means content that is older than the current content, in this case older than GU 63 content. I never said the arguements of the people in this thread werent justified, i just said there is an answer. Lets skip the possible arguement tho, and everyone else can go back to asking for the nerf to be reversed (unnerfed? lol).

04-14-2012, 10:17 PM	#1
Shotneedle Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695	I mean, a few pieces were OP, sure (preadtor hat/gloves, rogue boots/bracers, etc). But really? We've been asking for fixes to the few bad pieces, so you destroy all the good pieces as a price? I'd rather have the gear back the way it was. You've basically killed the fun of PoW letting lootscript 6000 itemize it. The mythical cloaks are bad and no one is looking forward to them (half the classes will probably wear a drunder red slot cloak over it) so all we have is the regular gear to get us excited. __________________ Buffratx - 92 Beastlord - AB Buffrat - 92 Troubador - AB Arbitrat - 92 Berserker - AB Guarddog - 92 Warden - AB

04-14-2012, 10:19 PM	#2
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	I dont understand how someone could thing doing this gear change was actually a good idea? Seriously, its a freaking joke. __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

04-14-2012, 10:24 PM	#4
Shotneedle Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695	Hey guys, let's itemize melee stats on priest gear, then take it all away. __________________ Buffratx - 92 Beastlord - AB Buffrat - 92 Troubador - AB Arbitrat - 92 Berserker - AB Guarddog - 92 Warden - AB

04-14-2012, 10:27 PM	#6
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	Spelll weapon attack is freaking awesome!!@!! /rolls eyes __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

04-14-2012, 11:34 PM	#7
Shotneedle Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695	Oh god. Mythical cloaks got upgraded and they're even worse now. __________________ Buffratx - 92 Beastlord - AB Buffrat - 92 Troubador - AB Arbitrat - 92 Berserker - AB Guarddog - 92 Warden - AB

04-14-2012, 10:20 PM	#3
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	Itemization is the one thing the devs never respond to. They will respond to craftin concerns They will respond to SC concerns They will respond to the Coldwind King Crab. But Itemization bugs, which have been reported since DRUNDER, have yet to see a red name comment on them at all.

04-14-2012, 10:25 PM	#5
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	Uhhhh priests should be using a 1h + shield, and if they wanna do damage, they should just use their ranged wepaon. right? right?

04-15-2012, 12:11 AM	#8
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Q: How useful and relevant will Destiny of Velious Part 1 be after Game Update 63 (book 2 of DoV)? Lyndro: Right now, DoV is the current “end of the game”. So it won’t be as relevant since it’s content you level through rather than stopping and playing forever. It’s our goal that you still have some equipment that you acquire through Velious Part 1 content that you still want to use. But it’s hard to have new content yet have it all stay at the same tier. Lyndro: For people who are doing Plane of War, that will continue to be the best gear for quite some time. I guess, their definition of "quite some time" is until we get heroic/easy mode raid drops.

04-15-2012, 01:25 AM	#9
Shotneedle Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695	aITEM 631930967 1900565714:Conjuror's Banner of War/a aITEM 17926794 1266013535 0:[Scaled Cloak of the Archmagus]/a Class Mythical Cloak (Rallos Zek drop?), Crafted Cloak. /thread __________________ Buffratx - 92 Beastlord - AB Buffrat - 92 Troubador - AB Arbitrat - 92 Berserker - AB Guarddog - 92 Warden - AB

04-15-2012, 01:59 AM	#10
Neiloch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,430	Morghus@Butcherblock wrote: Lyndro: For people who are doing Plane of War, that will continue to be the best gear for quite some time. I love that loot changes didn't get pushed to test until AFTER they said that. Like it really wasn't their intention for PoW to last but then a promise was made publicly that it would, so they had to rev up the script program and get out their spreadsheets to adjust gear. Doesn't matter if the math checks out when you assign incorrect values to the variables. I wouldn't trust these guys to do my nieces math homework. If you want an easy solution devs here is what you do. Find the best heroic attainable/crafted gear in the Skyshrine update, then make ALL of Plane of War gear significantly better than that. It would at the very least be a nice start. It would also probably need to be better than some if not all of the easier skyshrine raiding content drops/crafts as well. If you don't like that idea you only have yourself to blame. Maybe next time you won't make content so broken it can't be killed before the next push of content. __________________

04-15-2012, 03:53 AM	#11
Wirewhisker Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Collateral Damage Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 582	Vinyard@Antonia Bayle wrote: Itemization is the one thing the devs never respond to. They will respond to craftin concerns They will respond to SC concerns They will respond to the Coldwind King Crab. But Itemization bugs, which have been reported since DRUNDER, have yet to see a red name comment on them at all.

04-15-2012, 10:24 AM	#12
Gaeablock Journeyman Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 26	Awesomesauce. Well at least the Coldwind King Crab and Nexus Scion are working now. I was getting worried.

04-15-2012, 10:59 AM	#13
Kryvak Server: Everfrost Guild: Undercon Rank: Senior Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 343	This is honestly just ridiculous. I was excited when they said PoW would be the top tier gear; nobody on lots of servers has even seen the zone and it looked like it was going to become irrelevant. I want a reason to run it over the top raid zone in GU63, and this definitely isn't the way to give that. Someone at SOE needs to get their act together and figure out what's going on. __________________ Kryvak Usual Suspects Everfrost

04-15-2012, 12:24 PM	#14
Kenelven Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Miscreants Rank: Treasure Hunter Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it?

04-15-2012, 12:46 PM	#15
Kryvak Server: Everfrost Guild: Undercon Rank: Senior Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 343	Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it? The problem is that this isn't old content when only 4 guilds in the entire game have killed a named mob in it. If it hasn't been done yet, there should be a reason to do it. __________________ Kryvak Usual Suspects Everfrost

04-15-2012, 01:04 PM	#16
Shotneedle Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 695	Kryvak@Everfrost wrote: Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it? The problem is that this isn't old content when only 4 guilds in the entire game have killed a named mob in it. If it hasn't been done yet, there should be a reason to do it. 6. Soon to be 8. __________________ Buffratx - 92 Beastlord - AB Buffrat - 92 Troubador - AB Arbitrat - 92 Berserker - AB Guarddog - 92 Warden - AB

04-16-2012, 06:13 AM	#17
feldon30 Fansite Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,424	Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it? "Old content" is content that started being killed 30 days ago? __________________ .. EQ2Wire.com \| EQ2U - Character, Item, Spell, and Guild Data

04-16-2012, 10:08 AM	#18
Kenelven Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Miscreants Rank: Treasure Hunter Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	feldon30 wrote: Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: Regardless of what sony said, the answer to your complaints is simple. Progression, if old content raid gear is better than new content, why run it? "Old content" is content that started being killed 30 days ago? Appearantly not in your definition, but is there really a concrete definition of old content? In my opinion (and yes i get it, its just my opinion. But it is why i said it.) Old content means content that is older than the current content, in this case older than GU 63 content. I never said the arguements of the people in this thread werent justified, i just said there is an answer. Lets skip the possible arguement tho, and everyone else can go back to asking for the nerf to be reversed (unnerfed? lol).