Speculation on "prestige class talents"

CoLD MeTaL · 03-13-2012, 05:10 PM

What do you think this is?

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=515981

shots01 · 03-13-2012, 05:19 PM

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

What do you think this is?
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=515981

hmmmmm.... (tries to think of a snappy comeback.... comes up empty...)

Fanaion · 03-13-2012, 05:24 PM

Hmm .. it's SOE .. so .. perhaps Talents/Spells for Station Cash or Alaplaya Points SMILEY

yohann koldheart · 03-13-2012, 05:34 PM

maby a alternative to a aa tree or something.

Banditman · 03-13-2012, 05:37 PM

It's nothing more than another AA tree.

IvyBlackrose · 03-13-2012, 05:45 PM

Talent Tree is wow term for AA's

Nrgy · 03-13-2012, 07:02 PM

IvyBlackrose wrote:

Talent Tree is wow term for AA's

So there IS some hope talents EQ2 style might work...

gourdon · 03-13-2012, 07:23 PM

Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?

Neiloch · 03-13-2012, 07:27 PM

gourdon wrote:

Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?

That's what I'm betting on. Basically the balancing for the discrepancy beastlords have brought. I'm just hoping it doesn't have more melee stuff for rangers.

Elskidor · 03-13-2012, 07:31 PM

gourdon wrote:

Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?

That would be nice.

Chronus1 · 03-13-2012, 08:40 PM

A guy on another forum said it better than me:

"Oh snap we tied AAs to AoD which is meant to be optional features! What will we do? Errr Errr Errr Errr class talents!"

AAs but not AAs.

Deago · 03-13-2012, 08:44 PM

New talent will boost reaver to 10%. j/k

Laenai · 03-13-2012, 08:44 PM

My speculation is that it'll be for house decorating and dungeon maker.

Also, didn't we already pay for features like this with AoD? So we're buying features in expansions now....and then getting all the crap they didn't finish for the expansion for "Free" along with content? And wait...not actual content of all levels, but some instances that you can play either solo, heroic, or raid.

Give me a break.

Xelgad · 03-13-2012, 09:10 PM

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:

gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.

I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.

We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

Kryvak · 03-13-2012, 09:22 PM

Xelgad wrote:

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea.

Vlahkmaak · 03-13-2012, 09:27 PM

For this update please consider decreasing all XP gain inside instances by 75% on Nagafen server only and increasing XP gain of the overland quests by a nominal 5% to encourage open world questing/hunting and discourage hiding in instances grinding out the extra few lvls.

gourdon · 03-13-2012, 09:44 PM

Kryvak@Everfrost wrote:

Xelgad wrote:
Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!
Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea.

It wouldn't be savagery, but abilities that become active for short windows based upon whatever criteria. Predators already have exploit weakness, which is much harder to use since it is text based rather than an icon that lights up. Part of the point is that Beastlords are way more powerful than anything else in large part due to savagery and a similar set of abilities for everyone else might level the playing field.

Elomort · 03-13-2012, 09:53 PM

Xelgad wrote:

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

So, sort of like spells, but without tiers?

Well, there goe's my plans of having Bolster available as a perma-buff. SMILEY

Pixiewrath · 03-13-2012, 10:31 PM

Xelgad wrote:

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

I never played EQ1, but from what I understand, the AAs in that game are infinite.It would be nice to get some kind of separate AA system to the one we have, which has this too. That way people who are dedicated to their main chars will get more powerful and have something to do when they are "capped".Even if it's just small increases like 10 AA for 0.1% crit chance or something like that, it will make you feel you are accomplishing something. Would add a lot of depth.

Elskidor · 03-13-2012, 11:25 PM

Pixiewrath@The Bazaar wrote:

Xelgad wrote:
Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!
I never played EQ1, but from what I understand, the AAs in that game are infinite.It would be nice to get some kind of separate AA system to the one we have, which has this too. That way people who are dedicated to their main chars will get more powerful and have something to do when they are "capped".Even if it's just small increases like 10 AA for 0.1% crit chance or something like that, it will make you feel you are accomplishing something. Would add a lot of depth.

Not infinate, but yeah I agree. If we were just given hundreds of a new sort of aa then people wouldn't be running around with a ton of pointless alts, and could focus on their main or their (single) alt. Or use the same aa tree, but allow it to only be unlocked at level 92 or 300 aa spent. There has not been much to do in this game in awhile, and if these updates are going to be so spread apart something in game needs to be given to keep people willing to log in.

Gladiolus · 03-14-2012, 12:11 AM

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:

gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.

That would be awful. The constant "Not enough savagery" on every character would be extremely frustrating.

It's good to see that Xelgad has confirmed that the prestige points are simply super-AAs.

Valentina · 03-14-2012, 12:35 AM

gourdon wrote:

Kryvak@Everfrost wrote:
Xelgad wrote:
Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!
Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea.
It wouldn't be savagery, but abilities that become active for short windows based upon whatever criteria. Predators already have exploit weakness, which is much harder to use since it is text based rather than an icon that lights up. Part of the point is that Beastlords are way more powerful than anything else in large part due to savagery and a similar set of abilities for everyone else might level the playing field.

Not at all a fan of the whack-a-mole gameplay, so I'm glad this is not the case.

Onorem · 03-14-2012, 12:37 AM

Xelgad wrote:

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

Prove by way of listening to and reacting to feedback that you care about what people think...

that's step 1. apparently the most difficult for eq2

Gladiolus · 03-14-2012, 01:49 AM

Xelgad wrote:

Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level.

As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different?

Golbezz · 03-14-2012, 02:43 AM

Gladiolus wrote:

As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different?

I would expect the points are locked to level as in you get 1 point each level and players end up with the points based on their current level. If this turns out to be the case I would also expect to see mostly enhancements to current abilities with a few new abilities thrown in. It will be interesting to see if it ends up being like the SWTOR system where you specialized your class a bit more depending on the tree you filled with your points or if it's just a single tree system.

If the current 90's have to grind out the points I suspect alot of the casuals will be here whining about all the raiders clearing every possible spawn as fast as possible in every zone (as well as many doing chronomage grinding in lower level zones).

Golbezz · 03-14-2012, 02:56 AM

Laenai@Oasis wrote:

And wait...not actual content of all levels, but some instances that you can play either solo, heroic, or raid.
Give me a break.

This as well as EM/HM options have always seemed like a poor method to add additional content.

I had the most fun with RoK raiding and even TSO was better than the current system because raiders progressed thru the easy fights first, then got upgrades to take down the next target and kept building on the previous kills. Previous expansions were also much more fun than current raid content.

The EM/HM versions just seemed more boring it was like "ok, you know this fight in EM, now add harder hitting aoe attacks, [insert HM fail mechanic here] and that's the HM version".

doomsday · 03-14-2012, 03:10 AM

Aww just AA tree SMILEY I was so hoping it would be a true prestige class system like dungeons and dragons has. ( the actual game not the mmo.) I was looking forward to have a Frenzied Berserker or a Fury deathwarden

Tigerlord001 · 03-14-2012, 10:03 AM

Whatever they end up being, I pray they're passive abilities. Playing EQ2 is like playing "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome: The Game" as is. We really don't need more buttons to click.

CoLD MeTaL · 03-14-2012, 10:43 AM

Gladiolus wrote:

Xelgad wrote:
Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level.
As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different?

You know 90s won't automatically get anything. This will totally screw casuals, yet again. it will be exactly the same as adding AA when people where at max level without xp conversion and casuals were just totally screwed.

Onurissa · 03-14-2012, 11:35 AM

Xelgad wrote:

Meube@Splitpaw wrote:
gourdon wrote:
Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes?
That would be nice.
I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week.
We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think!

Very nice, looking forward to this!

03-13-2012, 05:10 PM	#1
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	What do you think this is? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=515981 __________________

03-13-2012, 05:19 PM	#2
shots01 Lord Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 452	CoLD MeTaL wrote: What do you think this is? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=515981 hmmmmm.... (tries to think of a snappy comeback.... comes up empty...)

03-13-2012, 05:37 PM	#5
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	It's nothing more than another AA tree. __________________

03-13-2012, 05:45 PM	#6
IvyBlackrose Lord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 176	Talent Tree is wow term for AA's __________________

03-13-2012, 07:02 PM	#7
Nrgy Lord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,338	IvyBlackrose wrote: Talent Tree is wow term for AA's So there IS some hope talents EQ2 style might work...

03-13-2012, 05:24 PM	#3
Fanaion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Hmm .. it's SOE .. so .. perhaps Talents/Spells for Station Cash or Alaplaya Points

03-13-2012, 05:34 PM	#4
yohann koldheart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: harrisburg,PA Posts: 1,601	maby a alternative to a aa tree or something.

03-13-2012, 07:23 PM	#8
gourdon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 632	Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? __________________

03-13-2012, 07:27 PM	#9
Neiloch Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,430	gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That's what I'm betting on. Basically the balancing for the discrepancy beastlords have brought. I'm just hoping it doesn't have more melee stuff for rangers. __________________

03-13-2012, 07:31 PM	#10
Elskidor Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 509	gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice.

03-13-2012, 08:40 PM	#11
Chronus1 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 253	A guy on another forum said it better than me: "Oh snap we tied AAs to AoD which is meant to be optional features! What will we do? Errr Errr Errr Errr class talents!" AAs but not AAs. __________________

03-13-2012, 08:44 PM	#12
Deago Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 625	New talent will boost reaver to 10%. j/k __________________ Hello fellow EQ2 gamers!

03-13-2012, 08:44 PM	#13
Laenai Server: Oasis Guild: Tyranny Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 634	My speculation is that it'll be for house decorating and dungeon maker. Also, didn't we already pay for features like this with AoD? So we're buying features in expansions now....and then getting all the crap they didn't finish for the expansion for "Free" along with content? And wait...not actual content of all levels, but some instances that you can play either solo, heroic, or raid. Give me a break. __________________

03-13-2012, 09:10 PM	#14
Xelgad Game Designer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 199	Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! __________________ <img src="http://signavatar.com/files/sigs/3355_3.jpg">

03-13-2012, 09:22 PM	#15
Kryvak Server: Everfrost Guild: Undercon Rank: Senior Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 343	Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea. __________________ Kryvak Usual Suspects Everfrost

03-13-2012, 09:27 PM	#16
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03-13-2012, 09:44 PM	#17
gourdon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 632	Kryvak@Everfrost wrote: Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea. It wouldn't be savagery, but abilities that become active for short windows based upon whatever criteria. Predators already have exploit weakness, which is much harder to use since it is text based rather than an icon that lights up. Part of the point is that Beastlords are way more powerful than anything else in large part due to savagery and a similar set of abilities for everyone else might level the playing field. __________________

03-13-2012, 09:53 PM	#18
Elomort Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 851	Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! So, sort of like spells, but without tiers? Well, there goe's my plans of having Bolster available as a perma-buff. __________________ â˜¸ ÄryÄá¹£á¹*Äá¹…gamÄrga Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.

03-13-2012, 10:31 PM	#19
Pixiewrath Server: The Bazaar Guild: Aristocrats Rank: Marquis / Markesa 200kgsp 1yr Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 964	Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! I never played EQ1, but from what I understand, the AAs in that game are infinite.It would be nice to get some kind of separate AA system to the one we have, which has this too. That way people who are dedicated to their main chars will get more powerful and have something to do when they are "capped".Even if it's just small increases like 10 AA for 0.1% crit chance or something like that, it will make you feel you are accomplishing something. Would add a lot of depth. __________________

03-13-2012, 11:25 PM	#20
Elskidor Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 509	Pixiewrath@The Bazaar wrote: Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! I never played EQ1, but from what I understand, the AAs in that game are infinite.It would be nice to get some kind of separate AA system to the one we have, which has this too. That way people who are dedicated to their main chars will get more powerful and have something to do when they are "capped".Even if it's just small increases like 10 AA for 0.1% crit chance or something like that, it will make you feel you are accomplishing something. Would add a lot of depth. Not infinate, but yeah I agree. If we were just given hundreds of a new sort of aa then people wouldn't be running around with a ton of pointless alts, and could focus on their main or their (single) alt. Or use the same aa tree, but allow it to only be unlocked at level 92 or 300 aa spent. There has not been much to do in this game in awhile, and if these updates are going to be so spread apart something in game needs to be given to keep people willing to log in.

03-14-2012, 12:11 AM	#21
Gladiolus Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 873	Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. That would be awful. The constant "Not enough savagery" on every character would be extremely frustrating. It's good to see that Xelgad has confirmed that the prestige points are simply super-AAs.

03-14-2012, 12:35 AM	#22
Valentina Server: Butcherblock Guild: House of Fallen Shadows Rank: Empress Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 509	gourdon wrote: Kryvak@Everfrost wrote: Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! Seems interesting. As to the Savagery for all classes, I'd have to vote against that. I like the way most classes work now, Beastlords are a cool, different class and I don't think making a big change to every class would be a good idea. It wouldn't be savagery, but abilities that become active for short windows based upon whatever criteria. Predators already have exploit weakness, which is much harder to use since it is text based rather than an icon that lights up. Part of the point is that Beastlords are way more powerful than anything else in large part due to savagery and a similar set of abilities for everyone else might level the playing field. Not at all a fan of the whack-a-mole gameplay, so I'm glad this is not the case.

03-14-2012, 12:37 AM	#23
Onorem Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,155	Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! Prove by way of listening to and reacting to feedback that you care about what people think... that's step 1. apparently the most difficult for eq2 __________________ _________________________________ "EQ2 is not a "free to play" game, so microtransactions are unlikely to ever have the "front seat" role that they have in F2P games" - SmokeJumper - 4/20/2010

03-14-2012, 01:49 AM	#24
Gladiolus Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 873	Xelgad wrote: Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different?

03-14-2012, 02:43 AM	#25
Golbezz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 601	Gladiolus wrote: As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different? I would expect the points are locked to level as in you get 1 point each level and players end up with the points based on their current level. If this turns out to be the case I would also expect to see mostly enhancements to current abilities with a few new abilities thrown in. It will be interesting to see if it ends up being like the SWTOR system where you specialized your class a bit more depending on the tree you filled with your points or if it's just a single tree system. If the current 90's have to grind out the points I suspect alot of the casuals will be here whining about all the raiders clearing every possible spawn as fast as possible in every zone (as well as many doing chronomage grinding in lower level zones).

03-14-2012, 02:56 AM	#26
Golbezz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 601	Laenai@Oasis wrote: And wait...not actual content of all levels, but some instances that you can play either solo, heroic, or raid. Give me a break. This as well as EM/HM options have always seemed like a poor method to add additional content. I had the most fun with RoK raiding and even TSO was better than the current system because raiders progressed thru the easy fights first, then got upgrades to take down the next target and kept building on the previous kills. Previous expansions were also much more fun than current raid content. The EM/HM versions just seemed more boring it was like "ok, you know this fight in EM, now add harder hitting aoe attacks, [insert HM fail mechanic here] and that's the HM version".

03-14-2012, 03:10 AM	#27
doomsday Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 21	Aww just AA tree I was so hoping it would be a true prestige class system like dungeons and dragons has. ( the actual game not the mmo.) I was looking forward to have a Frenzied Berserker or a Fury deathwarden __________________

03-14-2012, 10:03 AM	#28
Tigerlord001 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 123	Whatever they end up being, I pray they're passive abilities. Playing EQ2 is like playing "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome: The Game" as is. We really don't need more buttons to click.

03-14-2012, 10:43 AM	#29
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	Gladiolus wrote: Xelgad wrote: Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. As you level from when? From level 90? If from sooner, does that mean that those at level 90 will automatically be given points for logging in? Is Prestige just a new tab like Heroic? Or something different? You know 90s won't automatically get anything. This will totally screw casuals, yet again. it will be exactly the same as adding AA when people where at max level without xp conversion and casuals were just totally screwed. __________________

03-14-2012, 11:35 AM	#30
Onurissa Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Order of Marr Rank: Council Lord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 418	Xelgad wrote: Meube@Splitpaw wrote: gourdon wrote: Mechanic similar to savagery for all classes? That would be nice. I'll keep that in mind for future updates, but Prestige Points are basically Alternate Advancements that you earn automatically as you level. Details coming later this week. We're hoping to have a lot of people on test over the next month, and I think our community team is even working on some rewards for players who are able to make it over there. To update your Test Client in Launchpad 4, click on the tools icon in your normal live launcher -> Select Game Version -> Public Test -> Apply. Looking forward to seeing what you guys think! Very nice, looking forward to this!