EverQuest II Reunites with Free-to-Play Announcement - Page 3

Mermut · 11-11-2011, 03:46 PM

Zarandar@Oasis wrote:

yliena wrote:
Beregon wrote:
Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:
If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:
6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon.
(Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)
Thats all I can think of at the moment.
6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's a list of all races/classes that could be unlocked on Extended.
This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver.
I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed.
Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger).
Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse.

You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away.

Catria · 11-11-2011, 04:22 PM

Cyliena wrote:

Vindorek@Butcherblock wrote:
So I had copied a few toons to freeport which is now my home and was about to copy the rest. Will we be able to transfer to Freeport or off of Freeport and if so when?
"When asked about server transfers, Dave said that "all shackles are off!" "
http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story...amp;storypage=2

I'm happy we will be able to go to other servers. I would like to see all the chars from Bazaar and Vox get a free one-time transfer token so we can choose where we go, though, rather than just all being lumped onto Freeport and Nagafen.

Catria · 11-11-2011, 05:17 PM

I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged?

Wolfsbaine · 11-11-2011, 05:33 PM

Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote:

I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged?

I would suggest making a toon on freeport and moving the containers of stuff in the shared bank over to that toon. You could only carry 6/8 but I am sure you could find another toon to move the rest of the stuff too temporarily. Then you can sort it all out and determin what you want to keep

Maisland · 11-12-2011, 05:59 AM

Mermut wrote:

Zarandar@Oasis wrote:
yliena wrote:
Beregon wrote:
Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify:
If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits:
6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon.
(Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class)
Thats all I can think of at the moment.
6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's a list of all races/classes that could be unlocked on Extended.
This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver.
I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed.
Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger).
Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse.
You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away.

From what I have read, the fee is not that small, and considering that we are talking about 17 characters among which there are no class repeats and only one race repeat (and that only because I made one character as a place holder in hopes that someday othmir are made into a playable race), the fees would add up very quickly to way more than the monthly fee.

Plus, there are other features of a subscription that would make people want to pay it, such as being able to equip legendary and fabled gear, more bag slots, no limit on money per character, the ability to sell on the broker, master level spells, etc.

...and as I mentioned in my post that you quoted: "Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership."

I am not asking for full access if my subscription lapses, just to be allowed to log onto characters that I already have... maybe do some crafting. My main has some legendary gear, so even if I were allowed to log onto him at silver level, I couldn't really play him unless I got some lesser gear (maybe not even then). Not to mention that I have set up a house as a shop where all my characters can sell things... I would not expect that to be accessible at a silver level.

Basically, if I had to let my subscription lapse, the result would be the same as it is now... I would not see any point to even logging in as only 2 of my lesser characters would be available... if they even end up on character slots that are not locked. Of course, if they are on locked slots I wouldn't even be able to log in at all to buy anything from the marketplace anyway.

I have payed enough over the years that I have played that I don't think being allowed to always be able to log onto characters that I already have is asking too much. It would be a nice perk for long time subscribers to be allowed minimal access to all available characters on an account even if the subscription drops to silver level for a short time.

Of course, I suppose I could plan on a permanent drop to silver level... purchase all the classes and races, starting with those of my existing characters... the way I bought all my current character slots. Then I really could stop paying anything. I would, of course, miss my broker slots, bag slots, bank slots, the unlimited money per character, etc... but at least I would not have to worry about having to come up with money to play ever again.

Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.

Katz · 11-12-2011, 12:02 PM

Zarandar@Oasis wrote:

Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.

Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch.

Maisland · 11-12-2011, 12:58 PM

Katz wrote:

Zarandar@Oasis wrote:
Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.
Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch.

That had actually been my thought... year 7 or 8 would reward those playing (and paying) the longest. I am not quite there yet either, I just got my year 6 reward this year.

I have a friend (also a 6 year veteran) who would be in a worse case than myself even though he has fewer characters than I do (or maybe because of that). He had bought some slots (actually, I gifted them to him) and all his slots are filled. He is currently unable to play and has been for several months.

If he tried to come back to play as a silver account, he would be unable to log onto any of his characters because he has: a sarnak, 2 high elves, 3 ratongas, a dwarf, a wood elf, a fae and an erudite... but since the erudite is a necromancer, that character would also be locked (and some of his other characters are also classes that would lock them). His main is a ratonga wizard.

Would he be expected to delete characters that he has worked on for years just so he could create a new alt with which to log in so he could access the marketplace to pay to unlock one of his remaining characters? He already deleted his 2 lowest level characters when he dropped from a station access account to a normal subscription and I know that he plans to buy more slots when he is able to come back so he could recreate those. In order to free up a slot as a silver account, he would have to delete 4 more characters.

It would not be so bad if the button to buy slots on the character select screen actually worked or if the marketplace could be accessed online. Of course, even that would not help much since even the services you buy on the marketplace are items that you have to use as a character... and that would also make it impossible for someone else to gift things to a locked account.

Edit: Another thought - They are grandfathering in character slots for people that had characters on both live and extended prior to November 10 so that none of their characters are locked when the change goes into effect. They could do something similar for those who have only ever played on live servers and grandfather in race/class unlocks for characters that have existed since [a certain date] (or they could even limit it to just subscribers who purchased either the original game or one or more of certain of the previous expansions) as a gesture of good will to long time customers.

I would leave the details in question up to Sony's discretion, and really, this would only affect those whose accounts may lapse in the future, or those like my friend who return to the game solely because it is now free.

Think about it... someone who left the game for one reason or another and comes back because it is now free to play... only to find that none of their characters can be played due to race and/or class. Does Sony really think that such a person would stay? That they would ever pay any more money ever again?

Arbreth · 11-15-2011, 12:06 PM

I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts?

Maisland · 11-15-2011, 03:54 PM

Arbreth wrote:

I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts?

What I have read is that all live accounts will be converted to gold... as long as you pay your subscription. If you ever let your payments lapse, it will be downgraded to silver. Your EQX account will be merged with your live account. If you have characters on both live and EQX servers, then you will have bonus character slots grandfathered in based on the following formula:

Total occupied slots (the slots must have characters in them to be considered in this formula) on both games prior to November 10 - 7 (base slots for a gold account) - slots bought on live - slots bought on EQX = total bonus slots.

Your total character slots (on a gold account) will be: 7 + slots bought on live + slots bought on EQX + bonus slots from the formula above. You would lose access to 3 of those slots (i.e. they would be locked) if your account downgraded to silver until you either bought more slots or renewed your subscription.

Edit: Oh, and since you had a live account, the conversion of the live account to gold (or silver if you let your payments lapse) will take precidence over whatever your EQX account status was.

Skaini · 12-01-2011, 11:08 PM

cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes.

1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it)

2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal?

3. thank you for your time *grins*

Cyliena · 12-02-2011, 02:04 AM

Skaini@Crushbone wrote:

cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes.
1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it)
2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal?
3. thank you for your time *grins*

1. You won't lose your guild. If you play as a non-subscriber you may have to do one-time unlocks depending on your char's race and class.

2. As I said on #1, you might have to do one-time unlocks. Only certain races and classes are part of the free portion. For example, the only toon I'd be able to play on a free account without unlocking is my Human Swashbuckler, as both that race and class are non-restricted to Silver members.

Four free races included with Free and Silver Membership are: Human, Erudite, Barbarian and Half Elf. The Freeblood race is only available vie the Marketplace. Eight free classes included with Free and Silver Membership are: Swashbuckler, Brigand, Wizard, Warlock, Guardian, Berserker, Templar and Inquisitor. The Beastlord class is only available with the purchase of the Age of Discovery expansion. http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Membership_...atrix_%28EQ2%29

3. Wait, this isn't a question! SMILEY

Fistantantilus · 12-02-2011, 10:03 AM

guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough.

What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)...

the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again.

Cyliena · 12-02-2011, 11:10 AM

Phaerun@Mistmoore wrote:

guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough.
What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)...
the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again.

Yes the guild would remain. The F2P transition doesn't change that at all. Though I would strongly suggest giving dual leadership to another person you really trust that is sticking around, just in case they want to change guild halls or some such.

11-11-2011, 03:46 PM	#61
Mermut Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 852	Zarandar@Oasis wrote: yliena wrote: Beregon wrote: Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify: If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits: 6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class) Thats all I can think of at the moment. 6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's a list of all races/classes that could be unlocked on Extended. This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver. I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed. Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger). Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse. You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away. __________________ I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, But not hang it by the neck until dead.

11-11-2011, 04:22 PM	#62
Catria Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 802	Cyliena wrote: Vindorek@Butcherblock wrote: So I had copied a few toons to freeport which is now my home and was about to copy the rest. Will we be able to transfer to Freeport or off of Freeport and if so when? *"When asked about server transfers, Dave said that "all shackles are off!" "* http://eq2.zam.com/story.html?story...amp;storypage=2 I'm happy we will be able to go to other servers. I would like to see all the chars from Bazaar and Vox get a free one-time transfer token so we can choose where we go, though, rather than just all being lumped onto Freeport and Nagafen.

11-11-2011, 05:33 PM	#64
Wolfsbaine Server: The Bazaar Guild: Wartorn Rank: Centurion Decurio Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 111	Lyssia@The Bazaar wrote: I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged? I would suggest making a toon on freeport and moving the containers of stuff in the shared bank over to that toon. You could only carry 6/8 but I am sure you could find another toon to move the rest of the stuff too temporarily. Then you can sort it all out and determin what you want to keep __________________

11-12-2011, 05:59 AM	#65
Maisland Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 231	Mermut wrote: Zarandar@Oasis wrote: yliena wrote: Beregon wrote: Ok, I can be a little slow sometimes (and lazy. I don't want to read the other threads to find a few answers.) but just to clarify: If I have the free/silver account when the conversion hits: 6. If I have a Barbarian Ranger, I would have to buy the Ranger class to play this toon. (Silly thing, you should have access to the toon, but not to create a new ranger until you upgrade or buy the class) Thats all I can think of at the moment. 6. That's what they made it sound like in the webcast. As a Free/Silver member you would most likely have to unlock the ability to play any races or classes that are not included as free. Once they are unlocked they will always be unlocked, even if (for example) you went to Gold then back down to Silver again. Here's a list of all races/classes that could be unlocked on Extended. This is what I have been wondering. It looks like I would be unable to play any the vast majority of my characters if I let my subscription lapse to silver. I think a better deal would be just to not allow the creation of new characters of those classes/races rather than to lock existing ones. Might as well just not play... which would be the same as now if my subscription lapsed. Edit: I did a race/class graph chart for my (19) characters. If I had to let my subscription lapse to silver (very likely given the economy, and I had recently been thinking of allowing it to lapse for a few months as it is), I would be able to play 2 of my characters (provided that they were not on locked slots at the time)... all the rest are either a race, a class or both that are not available to a silver account. I would not be able to play my main (necromancer) or any of the secondary characters that I have been working on the hardest (dark elf, iksar, gnome mystic, sarnak shadowknight, wood elf ranger). Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership... so it would still be a case of might as well not bother to play at all if I had to let my subscription lapse. You can pay a small one-time fee to unlock whatever race/class the character you want to play is. It's much less then the sub fee and then you'll be able to play that toon whenever you want. You can't really expect them to give you full access to subbed account toons once you stop paying them. If you could, players would sub, get their characters where they wanted, unsub and never pay SoE another dime. That would certainly kill EQ2. If SoE stopped making money on EQ2, EQ2 would go away. From what I have read, the fee is not that small, and considering that we are talking about 17 characters among which there are no class repeats and only one race repeat (and that only because I made one character as a place holder in hopes that someday othmir are made into a playable race), the fees would add up very quickly to way more than the monthly fee. Plus, there are other features of a subscription that would make people want to pay it, such as being able to equip legendary and fabled gear, more bag slots, no limit on money per character, the ability to sell on the broker, master level spells, etc. ...and as I mentioned in my post that you quoted: "Given that I would renew my subscription when I could, it would be a waste of money to unlock those races and classes that are not available to a silver membership." I am not asking for full access if my subscription lapses, just to be allowed to log onto characters that I already have... maybe do some crafting. My main has some legendary gear, so even if I were allowed to log onto him at silver level, I couldn't really play him unless I got some lesser gear (maybe not even then). Not to mention that I have set up a house as a shop where all my characters can sell things... I would not expect that to be accessible at a silver level. Basically, if I had to let my subscription lapse, the result would be the same as it is now... I would not see any point to even logging in as only 2 of my lesser characters would be available... if they even end up on character slots that are not locked. Of course, if they are on locked slots I wouldn't even be able to log in at all to buy anything from the marketplace anyway. I have payed enough over the years that I have played that I don't think being allowed to always be able to log onto characters that I already have is asking too much. It would be a nice perk for long time subscribers to be allowed minimal access to all available characters on an account even if the subscription drops to silver level for a short time. Of course, I suppose I could plan on a permanent drop to silver level... purchase all the classes and races, starting with those of my existing characters... the way I bought all my current character slots. Then I really could stop paying anything. I would, of course, miss my broker slots, bag slots, bank slots, the unlimited money per character, etc... but at least I would not have to worry about having to come up with money to play ever again. Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times.

11-12-2011, 12:02 PM	#66
Katz Loremaster Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,601	Zarandar@Oasis wrote: Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times. Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch.

11-11-2011, 05:17 PM	#63
Catria Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 802	I have a question about the shared banks. If someone has characters on the Freeport server already, and their shared bank is full, what happens when their characters and shared bank from Bazaar get merged?

11-12-2011, 12:58 PM	#67
Maisland Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 231	Katz wrote: Zarandar@Oasis wrote: Edit: Thinking about it, they could give out race/class unlocks in the veteran rewards for people who have been playing for x years for those who find themselves unable to pay for a month or two. That would certainly be a nice gesture in these uncertain times. Now thats a nice idea. Add the unlocks to one of the later veteran rewards. Year 7 or 8 would be fine. I'm not there yet but it would be something to look forward to and would definitely reward those that were here since launch. That had actually been my thought... year 7 or 8 would reward those playing (and paying) the longest. I am not quite there yet either, I just got my year 6 reward this year. I have a friend (also a 6 year veteran) who would be in a worse case than myself even though he has fewer characters than I do (or maybe because of that). He had bought some slots (actually, I gifted them to him) and all his slots are filled. He is currently unable to play and has been for several months. If he tried to come back to play as a silver account, he would be unable to log onto any of his characters because he has: a sarnak, 2 high elves, 3 ratongas, a dwarf, a wood elf, a fae and an erudite... but since the erudite is a necromancer, that character would also be locked (and some of his other characters are also classes that would lock them). His main is a ratonga wizard. Would he be expected to delete characters that he has worked on for years just so he could create a new alt with which to log in so he could access the marketplace to pay to unlock one of his remaining characters? He already deleted his 2 lowest level characters when he dropped from a station access account to a normal subscription and I know that he plans to buy more slots when he is able to come back so he could recreate those. In order to free up a slot as a silver account, he would have to delete 4 more characters. It would not be so bad if the button to buy slots on the character select screen actually worked or if the marketplace could be accessed online. Of course, even that would not help much since even the services you buy on the marketplace are items that you have to use as a character... and that would also make it impossible for someone else to gift things to a locked account. Edit: Another thought - They are grandfathering in character slots for people that had characters on both live and extended prior to November 10 so that none of their characters are locked when the change goes into effect. They could do something similar for those who have only ever played on live servers and grandfather in race/class unlocks for characters that have existed since [a certain date] (or they could even limit it to just subscribers who purchased either the original game or one or more of certain of the previous expansions) as a gesture of good will to long time customers. I would leave the details in question up to Sony's discretion, and really, this would only affect those whose accounts may lapse in the future, or those like my friend who return to the game solely because it is now free. Think about it... someone who left the game for one reason or another and comes back because it is now free to play... only to find that none of their characters can be played due to race and/or class. Does Sony really think that such a person would stay? That they would ever pay any more money ever again?

11-15-2011, 12:06 PM	#68
Arbreth Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 604	I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts?

11-15-2011, 03:54 PM	#69
Maisland Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 231	Arbreth wrote: I keep hearing about gold being grandfathered in and merged with the live accounts, but what about the silver, or even bronze? I myself have a silver account on EQ2X, my kids have bronze, but we all have live accounts. What will happen with those characters/accounts? What I have read is that all live accounts will be converted to gold... as long as you pay your subscription. If you ever let your payments lapse, it will be downgraded to silver. Your EQX account will be merged with your live account. If you have characters on both live and EQX servers, then you will have bonus character slots grandfathered in based on the following formula: Total occupied slots (the slots must have characters in them to be considered in this formula) on both games prior to November 10 - 7 (base slots for a gold account) - slots bought on live - slots bought on EQX = total bonus slots. Your total character slots (on a gold account) will be: 7 + slots bought on live + slots bought on EQX + bonus slots from the formula above. You would lose access to 3 of those slots (i.e. they would be locked) if your account downgraded to silver until you either bought more slots or renewed your subscription. Edit: Oh, and since you had a live account, the conversion of the live account to gold (or silver if you let your payments lapse) will take precidence over whatever your EQX account status was.

12-01-2011, 11:08 PM	#70
Skaini Server: Crushbone Guild: Dragon Magick Rank: Dragon Guardian Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 5	cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes. 1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it) 2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal? 3. thank you for your time grins

12-02-2011, 02:04 AM	#71
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Skaini@Crushbone wrote: cant realy seam to find an answer to my questions here goes. 1 i am a guild leader to my guild now if i miss getting my gamecard by say a day or two can i still play once merged to f2p and not lose my guild (never played f2p so dont know how guilds work in it) 2. i can still play my favorite toon (but only 2 of them right?) till i get to the store to by my game card and its like normal? 3. thank you for your time grins 1. You won't lose your guild. If you play as a non-subscriber you may have to do one-time unlocks depending on your char's race and class. 2. As I said on #1, you might have to do one-time unlocks. Only certain races and classes are part of the free portion. For example, the only toon I'd be able to play on a free account without unlocking is my Human Swashbuckler, as both that race and class are non-restricted to Silver members. Four free races included with Free and Silver Membership are: Human, Erudite, Barbarian and Half Elf. The Freeblood race is only available vie the Marketplace. Eight free classes included with Free and Silver Membership are: Swashbuckler, Brigand, Wizard, Warlock, Guardian, Berserker, Templar and Inquisitor. The Beastlord class is only available with the purchase of the Age of Discovery expansion. http://eq2.zam.com/wiki/Membership_...atrix_%28EQ2%29 3. Wait, this isn't a question!

12-02-2011, 10:03 AM	#72
Fistantantilus Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Abyss Posts: 84	guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough. What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)... the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again.

12-02-2011, 11:10 AM	#73
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Phaerun@Mistmoore wrote: guild related question. I am guild leader. Both my subs expire in like 3 months and after all this I am not planning on renewing, nor playing as silver because I cannot without paying soe money twice. paying them for 7 yrs for eq2 seems more than enough. What happens to the guild (was founded on 11/11/2004 so kinda lame to "vanish") and the other people in there if they choose to keep playin (which I doubt but ya)... the question is because if i stopped paying right now as a subscriber, the guild will be still there for the ppl who chose to keep playing. Even if i never subbed ever again. Yes the guild would remain. The F2P transition doesn't change that at all. Though I would strongly suggest giving dual leadership to another person you really trust that is sticking around, just in case they want to change guild halls or some such.