I don't want useless heals/wards.

Talathion · 11-12-2011, 08:20 PM

Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage".

Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health.

Change Ward of Rage to give berserker Flurry Chance, 1% Per Point Spent, change it to Blades of Rage or something.

Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal).

Change Juggernaut to lower the damage spells do to us by 50%/Physical Damage by 25%, then put a health cost drain much like Adrenaline Drains Mana.

Change Open Wounds to be a something else or uncap AOE autoattack.

LygerT · 11-14-2011, 05:54 PM

zerkers are a healing class, since a long time ago we were intended to proc heals when hit so that we could tank massive amounts of weak mobs. unfortunately there generally isn't content tailored to that style of play unless you count running noobs through runnyeye or the nonexistent avatars.

now shut up and accept your class.

Talathion · 11-15-2011, 12:16 AM

Lyger@Permafrost wrote:

zerkers are a healing class, since a long time ago we were intended to proc heals when hit so that we could tank massive amounts of weak mobs. unfortunately there generally isn't content tailored to that style of play unless you count running noobs through runnyeye or the nonexistent avatars.
now shut up and accept your class.

Eh, it should be 100% proc rate if its gonna be crap healing.

So should the ward.

Destraum · 11-15-2011, 06:22 PM

Lyger@Permafrost wrote:

now shut up and accept your class.

LOL...now you know Lyger that the t*rd will never shut up.

Funniest thing I actually LOL'd about was just the actual title. Since when is the basis of one class based upon what 1 person wants or doesn't? Specially one that apparently has absolutely no clue on how to play the class to begin with.

Talathion · 11-16-2011, 12:57 PM

Roehl@Guk wrote:

Lyger@Permafrost wrote:
now shut up and accept your class.
LOL...now you know Lyger that the t*rd will never shut up.
Funniest thing I actually LOL'd about was just the actual title. Since when is the basis of one class based upon what 1 person wants or doesn't? Specially one that apparently has absolutely no clue on how to play the class to begin with.

My Melee hit is 100x more then yours, Multi-attack IS MY CLASS!!!

Talathion · 11-16-2011, 01:54 PM

Woah.. did my thread get copied?

LygerT · 11-17-2011, 01:49 PM

it's been there since you made this one... it's called double posting, it's what newbs do and is not a conspiracy.

Talathion · 11-17-2011, 09:55 PM

Lyger@Permafrost wrote:

it's been there since you made this one... it's called double posting, it's what newbs do and is not a conspiracy.

Conspiracy!

dragontus66 · 11-20-2011, 03:12 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage".
Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health.
No thanks, for a raiding zerker (2%) is ok but for the rest (98%) this idea is crap (my mind)
Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal).
Sorry, a "healing class" is class who heal others too (or is a sk a healing class ? ) i like the "self" heals like a monk, bruiser or sk, if you dont like it, go and play a guardian
Well, but i want to see a change too (make it % based )

Talathion · 11-22-2011, 01:07 PM

dragontus66 wrote:

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage".
Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health.
No thanks, for a raiding zerker (2%) is ok but for the rest (98%) this idea is crap (my mind)
Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal).
Sorry, a "healing class" is class who heal others too (or is a sk a healing class ? ) i like the "self" heals like a monk, bruiser or sk, if you dont like it, go and play a guardian
Well, but i want to see a change too (make it % based )

a Max Health buff is way better then a crappy non critting heal... now if the heal was percent based or criticalled that would be another story... but I want an autoattack buff someplace.. berserkers deserve it. SMILEY

But Berserkers are DPS Tanks, but we are number 4 on the DPS list for fighters... partially because our stuff doesn't go up well high end (cap problems.) and we can't hit anything... so Monk/bruiser/shadowknight are still above us on dps...

Costa · 11-23-2011, 02:42 PM

Simple fix for the class and your heals and just remove them all and give the class small damage reduction whilst berserk. Probably never work correctly but the warriors are built around damage absorbtion yet the zerk has far few ways of doing that than the guardians and the whole healing is lost on this class.

The devs have moved in so many different directions with all fighter classes that the defining lines have long been lost but it should be Brawlers avoide hits, Warriors absorb them and Crusaders heal through them. My zerk can do far larger pulls when doing PL runs than my Pally due to the heal procs he has, where by the pally has to stop dpsing to cast a heal or ward and in doing so make slower pulls. They can both do the PLing but craziliy the Zerk will out heal and out dps my pally in the same situation on multiple green con mobs.

Talathion · 11-23-2011, 02:46 PM

Costa@Nagafen wrote:

Simple fix for the class and your heals and just remove them all and give the class small damage reduction whilst berserk. Probably never work correctly but the warriors are built around damage absorbtion yet the zerk has far few ways of doing that than the guardians and the whole healing is lost on this class.
The devs have moved in so many different directions with all fighter classes that the defining lines have long been lost but it should be Brawlers avoide hits, Warriors absorb them and Crusaders heal through them. My zerk can do far larger pulls when doing PL runs than my Pally due to the heal procs he has, where by the pally has to stop dpsing to cast a heal or ward and in doing so make slower pulls. They can both do the PLing but craziliy the Zerk will out heal and out dps my pally in the same situation on multiple green con mobs.

Change Blood Rage into an Autoattack Modifier/Max Health Buff, we're a DPS Tank Class, Blood Rage = I do more damage/have a higher hitpoints, thats what it sounds like to me.

Change Ward of Rage into Critical Bonus or 1% damage Reduction Per Point Spent.

Change Juggernaut into a Damage Reduction or HIGH Offensive Buff.

11-15-2011, 12:16 AM	#3
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Lyger@Permafrost wrote: zerkers are a healing class, since a long time ago we were intended to proc heals when hit so that we could tank massive amounts of weak mobs. unfortunately there generally isn't content tailored to that style of play unless you count running noobs through runnyeye or the nonexistent avatars. now shut up and accept your class. Eh, it should be 100% proc rate if its gonna be crap healing. So should the ward.

11-15-2011, 06:22 PM	#4
Destraum Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 42	Lyger@Permafrost wrote: now shut up and accept your class. LOL...now you know Lyger that the t*rd will never shut up. Funniest thing I actually LOL'd about was just the actual title. Since when is the basis of one class based upon what 1 person wants or doesn't? Specially one that apparently has absolutely no clue on how to play the class to begin with. __________________

11-16-2011, 12:57 PM	#5
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Roehl@Guk wrote: Lyger@Permafrost wrote: now shut up and accept your class. LOL...now you know Lyger that the t*rd will never shut up. Funniest thing I actually LOL'd about was just the actual title. Since when is the basis of one class based upon what 1 person wants or doesn't? Specially one that apparently has absolutely no clue on how to play the class to begin with. My Melee hit is 100x more then yours, Multi-attack IS MY CLASS!!!

11-17-2011, 09:55 PM	#8
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Lyger@Permafrost wrote: it's been there since you made this one... it's called double posting, it's what newbs do and is not a conspiracy. Conspiracy!

11-20-2011, 03:12 PM	#9
dragontus66 Journeyman Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage". Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health. No thanks, for a raiding zerker (2%) is ok but for the rest (98%) this idea is crap (my mind) Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal). Sorry, a "healing class" is class who heal others too (or is a sk a healing class ? ) i like the "self" heals like a monk, bruiser or sk, if you dont like it, go and play a guardian Well, but i want to see a change too (make it % based )

11-12-2011, 08:20 PM	#1
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage". Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health. Change Ward of Rage to give berserker Flurry Chance, 1% Per Point Spent, change it to Blades of Rage or something. Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal). Change Juggernaut to lower the damage spells do to us by 50%/Physical Damage by 25%, then put a health cost drain much like Adrenaline Drains Mana. Change Open Wounds to be a something else or uncap AOE autoattack.

11-14-2011, 05:54 PM	#2
LygerT Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: las vegas, NV Posts: 2,144	zerkers are a healing class, since a long time ago we were intended to proc heals when hit so that we could tank massive amounts of weak mobs. unfortunately there generally isn't content tailored to that style of play unless you count running noobs through runnyeye or the nonexistent avatars. now shut up and accept your class.

11-16-2011, 01:54 PM	#6
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Woah.. did my thread get copied?

11-17-2011, 01:49 PM	#7
LygerT Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: las vegas, NV Posts: 2,144	it's been there since you made this one... it's called double posting, it's what newbs do and is not a conspiracy.

11-22-2011, 01:07 PM	#10
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	dragontus66 wrote: Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: Can we please replace "Ward of Rage" and "Blood Rage". Change Blood Rage into a buff that gives me Autoattack Modifier And Max Health. No thanks, for a raiding zerker (2%) is ok but for the rest (98%) this idea is crap (my mind) Berserkers are not a Healing Class we're a Damage Tank, less you wanna make these abilitys useful (heal me for something thats not a 298 ward and a 670 heal). Sorry, a "healing class" is class who heal others too (or is a sk a healing class ? ) i like the "self" heals like a monk, bruiser or sk, if you dont like it, go and play a guardian Well, but i want to see a change too (make it % based ) a Max Health buff is way better then a crappy non critting heal... now if the heal was percent based or criticalled that would be another story... but I want an autoattack buff someplace.. berserkers deserve it. But Berserkers are DPS Tanks, but we are number 4 on the DPS list for fighters... partially because our stuff doesn't go up well high end (cap problems.) and we can't hit anything... so Monk/bruiser/shadowknight are still above us on dps...

11-23-2011, 02:42 PM	#11
Costa Server: Nagafen Guild: Black Rose Rank: Officer's Alts Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 297	Simple fix for the class and your heals and just remove them all and give the class small damage reduction whilst berserk. Probably never work correctly but the warriors are built around damage absorbtion yet the zerk has far few ways of doing that than the guardians and the whole healing is lost on this class. The devs have moved in so many different directions with all fighter classes that the defining lines have long been lost but it should be Brawlers avoide hits, Warriors absorb them and Crusaders heal through them. My zerk can do far larger pulls when doing PL runs than my Pally due to the heal procs he has, where by the pally has to stop dpsing to cast a heal or ward and in doing so make slower pulls. They can both do the PLing but craziliy the Zerk will out heal and out dps my pally in the same situation on multiple green con mobs. __________________

11-23-2011, 02:46 PM	#12
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Costa@Nagafen wrote: Simple fix for the class and your heals and just remove them all and give the class small damage reduction whilst berserk. Probably never work correctly but the warriors are built around damage absorbtion yet the zerk has far few ways of doing that than the guardians and the whole healing is lost on this class. The devs have moved in so many different directions with all fighter classes that the defining lines have long been lost but it should be Brawlers avoide hits, Warriors absorb them and Crusaders heal through them. My zerk can do far larger pulls when doing PL runs than my Pally due to the heal procs he has, where by the pally has to stop dpsing to cast a heal or ward and in doing so make slower pulls. They can both do the PLing but craziliy the Zerk will out heal and out dps my pally in the same situation on multiple green con mobs. Change Blood Rage into an Autoattack Modifier/Max Health Buff, we're a DPS Tank Class, Blood Rage = I do more damage/have a higher hitpoints, thats what it sounds like to me. Change Ward of Rage into Critical Bonus or 1% damage Reduction Per Point Spent. Change Juggernaut into a Damage Reduction or HIGH Offensive Buff.