Scout Gear Needs Casting Skills For Bards

Lethe5683 · 07-09-2011, 03:54 AM

The title pretty much explains it. Scout gear has tons of +weaponskills but no casting skills of any type as far as I have seen. Bards are scouts too so if you're going to lump all itemization together then at least get it right and add skills for all scouts rather than just 4 of them. This is the worst for troubs who rely on spell damage a lot and are already far inferior to dirges.

Katanalla · 07-09-2011, 02:19 PM

honestly they aren't really focusing on any one class anymore, which sucks...

but you can get adorns for what you seek.

Lethe5683 · 07-09-2011, 06:38 PM

Katanallama@Permafrost wrote:

honestly they aren't really focusing on any one class anymore, which sucks...
but you can get adorns for what you seek.

Not really. I can get a few white adornments for casting skills that even if put on every possible slot will still not add up to half of the weaponskills I get from gear.

Brienae · 07-09-2011, 07:21 PM

Not even our personlized armor has casting. I was just looking at my raid armor (mostly ez mode) and none of them have casting skills... I'm a troubador seems to me that since I do use my spells a lot I should have that on my armor that is supposed to be the best armor for me.

gatrm · 07-11-2011, 03:42 PM

As a dirge, I'll say give this option for troubs, but don't lump the bards together. I much prefer the melee skills. Knowing SOE, if they decide to change the troub itemization they will change dirge also. I remember the days where it was hard to get weapon skills and I couldn't hit the side of a barn from an inch away. If it's added to scout gear, I would hope they don't do it at the cost of other stats, since it really only helps troubs.

Lethe5683 · 07-11-2011, 06:55 PM

gatrm wrote:

As a dirge, I'll say give this option for troubs, but don't lump the bards together. I much prefer the melee skills. Knowing SOE, if they decide to change the troub itemization they will change dirge also. I remember the days where it was hard to get weapon skills and I couldn't hit the side of a barn from an inch away. If it's added to scout gear, I would hope they don't do it at the cost of other stats, since it really only helps troubs.

They shouldn't be replacing the melee skills with casting skills they should have equal amounts of both. An assassin getting +25 slashing/piercing/ranged benefits them as much as a troub getting +25 slashing/piercing/ranged and +25 disruption/ordination/subjugation. Same deal with melee priests who should keep the +ministration/ordination as well as gain +crushing/slashing/piercing.

DeciimusTiger · 07-13-2011, 10:16 AM

I really never even thought about this but ALWAYS wondered [Removed for Content] was up and why I lack compared to the dirges... has anyone ever brought this up to a Dev or even SEEN any kind of acknowledgement?

Boli32 · 07-13-2011, 11:42 AM

Crusaders need casting skills as well and I hate to loose +MA adorns to get them SMILEY

Xenxex · 07-13-2011, 12:03 PM

The problem is the fact that a armor crate gives you a piece of gear by class but the only difference is the fact that the foci are different. The armor and stats itself is cut/past across the board which should generally not be the case. However hopefully during the loot pass they do they realize that some of that should be tweaked.

Druid03 · 07-13-2011, 12:26 PM

they probably wont touch any of the gear...and then let us reforge it into what we want when the next exp pack comes out.

Lethe5683 · 07-14-2011, 05:23 AM

DeciimusTiger wrote:

I really never even thought about this but ALWAYS wondered [Removed for Content] was up and why I lack compared to the dirges... has anyone ever brought this up to a Dev or even SEEN any kind of acknowledgement?

The lack of casting spells are the least of the cause of disparity in DPS between the bards. The proc on the dirge epic weapon buff is unreasonably overpowered while the poc on the troub epic weapon buff is mostly useless.

07-09-2011, 06:38 PM	#3
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Katanallama@Permafrost wrote: honestly they aren't really focusing on any one class anymore, which sucks... but you can get adorns for what you seek. Not really. I can get a few white adornments for casting skills that even if put on every possible slot will still not add up to half of the weaponskills I get from gear.

07-09-2011, 07:21 PM	#4
Brienae Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Bloodsworn Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 813	Not even our personlized armor has casting. I was just looking at my raid armor (mostly ez mode) and none of them have casting skills... I'm a troubador seems to me that since I do use my spells a lot I should have that on my armor that is supposed to be the best armor for me. __________________ A true bard performs not for their own glory but the glory of others~Lady Brienae De`Esaloda I am Nature's Wrath incarnate like the fire I destroy and rejuvenate~Tetriemmy Windfoot

07-11-2011, 06:55 PM	#6
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	gatrm wrote: As a dirge, I'll say give this option for troubs, but don't lump the bards together. I much prefer the melee skills. Knowing SOE, if they decide to change the troub itemization they will change dirge also. I remember the days where it was hard to get weapon skills and I couldn't hit the side of a barn from an inch away. If it's added to scout gear, I would hope they don't do it at the cost of other stats, since it really only helps troubs. They shouldn't be replacing the melee skills with casting skills they should have equal amounts of both. An assassin getting +25 slashing/piercing/ranged benefits them as much as a troub getting +25 slashing/piercing/ranged and +25 disruption/ordination/subjugation. Same deal with melee priests who should keep the +ministration/ordination as well as gain +crushing/slashing/piercing.

07-13-2011, 12:26 PM	#10
Druid03 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 418	they probably wont touch any of the gear...and then let us reforge it into what we want when the next exp pack comes out. __________________ Tieron Troubador 92

07-14-2011, 05:23 AM	#11
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	DeciimusTiger wrote: I really never even thought about this but ALWAYS wondered [Removed for Content] was up and why I lack compared to the dirges... has anyone ever brought this up to a Dev or even SEEN any kind of acknowledgement? The lack of casting spells are the least of the cause of disparity in DPS between the bards. The proc on the dirge epic weapon buff is unreasonably overpowered while the poc on the troub epic weapon buff is mostly useless.

07-09-2011, 03:54 AM	#1
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	The title pretty much explains it. Scout gear has tons of +weaponskills but no casting skills of any type as far as I have seen. Bards are scouts too so if you're going to lump all itemization together then at least get it right and add skills for all scouts rather than just 4 of them. This is the worst for troubs who rely on spell damage a lot and are already far inferior to dirges.

07-09-2011, 02:19 PM	#2
Katanalla Server: Mistmoore General Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 637	honestly they aren't really focusing on any one class anymore, which sucks... but you can get adorns for what you seek.

07-11-2011, 03:42 PM	#5
gatrm Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 545	As a dirge, I'll say give this option for troubs, but don't lump the bards together. I much prefer the melee skills. Knowing SOE, if they decide to change the troub itemization they will change dirge also. I remember the days where it was hard to get weapon skills and I couldn't hit the side of a barn from an inch away. If it's added to scout gear, I would hope they don't do it at the cost of other stats, since it really only helps troubs.

07-13-2011, 10:16 AM	#7
DeciimusTiger Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 31	I really never even thought about this but ALWAYS wondered [Removed for Content] was up and why I lack compared to the dirges... has anyone ever brought this up to a Dev or even SEEN any kind of acknowledgement?

07-13-2011, 11:42 AM	#8
Boli32 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,425	Crusaders need casting skills as well and I hate to loose +MA adorns to get them

07-13-2011, 12:03 PM	#9
Xenxex Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Azure Skies Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 177	The problem is the fact that a armor crate gives you a piece of gear by class but the only difference is the fact that the foci are different. The armor and stats itself is cut/past across the board which should generally not be the case. However hopefully during the loot pass they do they realize that some of that should be tweaked.