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Unread 06-08-2011, 08:03 AM   #91
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Crismorn wrote:

I like how lore is disregarded at will or used as an excuse depending on the situation.

Well played SoE

Appeasing a bunch of goats who need help caring for their Gryphons in order to unlock the ability to fly a Pegasus would be equally stupid lore. About as stupid as flying carpets not flying and cancelling over water.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 09:23 AM   #92
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Mounts look ok but the horse model used is to stocky.  Should have gone with a leaner horse somthing more arabian or a plains horse model.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 09:36 AM   #93
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Padeshar@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Can you please make it so that its a straight +5 to everything on both, instead of white being caster and black scout? And as it is now why is the +range on the caster (white) and not the scout (black). Please just consolidate them so we can go with the color we want. Or make 2 of both colors one scout one caster.

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Anev@Najena wrote:

oh wow! this is why I love forums. When the flying mounts first came out there was tons of outrage that it took 5 days to get them, a lot of people were angry that they had to do the quest over and over again with alts. I remember them screaming for SOE to make it so they didn't have to wait 5 days. Now SOE has done that and everyone is mad that other people don't have to wait 5 days.

This makes no sense, I'll never understand why people care so much about what everyone else is doing. I did the quest, waited my 5 days, got my flying mount, and never looked back. I couldn't care less how anyone else gets theirs. It does not effect my gameplay in any way. The way I see it, I can now ramp up the crafting on my alts, and get a flying mount when it is much more useful.

TLDR: Did you really think that the 5 day wait on flying mounts was going to last forever? It had to end sometime.

This.

One thing I absolutely depise is when someone I don't play the game with gets their +200 UberBlade of Deific Emasculation (or what the &^%$ ever) - "Norrath is still for a moment as DDDrrrrriiizzzzztttttt blahblahblahblah....".  Not the fact that they got it, mind you - hey, good for them.  But the question is - why should I care?  I mean, really?  What effect does it have on my game play?  And why should I have this annoying gaggle of text pop up on my screen when I couldn't give a rodent's rosey red rear?  Now, if it was a friend or a guildie, or even someone I'm grouped with who's acquiring it - hey, great.  That has some real bearing for me.  I helped them, or can at least share in their moment of triumph beyond a texted 'gratz'.  But someone who I am likely to never group with, or possibly never even run into in-game, I'm supposed to obsess over how they got their doohickey?  Frankly, I wouldn't care if they started selling Epics and Fabled gear - while I'm far too much of a cheapskate to spend money on something like that, if GGGGaaaannndddalllffff the wizard decides he wants to buy himself a full set of Uber-grade gear - hey, more power to him.  Not like he can't plat his way into a raid these days, anyways.

And similarly - if someone goes out and gets a flying mount for however much that SOE is gouging us for - why should I care, really?  What effect does that person having a purchased mount versus a quested mount have on my game?  They're up in the wild blue yonder on a griffin OR...a winged horse.  Wow.  Such a huge difference it has on my game, really.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:08 AM   #95
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Velo@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Onurissa@Antonia Bayle wrote:

The flying mount quest is still required to win the trust of the goahmari and earn the guardianship of your baby gryphon mount in the Great Divide. However, the Pegasus mount does not require the approval of the goahmari and can be used immediately by any adventurer level 85+ adventure or tradeskill level.

 

For those that seemed to miss this before. You can ride the Pegasus WITHOUT doing the gryphon quest, you just need to be level 85 in crafter or adventure.

Pathetic. You should not be able to skip such an important questline just because of Station Cash.

Make the mount appearance only.

You're conflating something minor, and easy, into an "important questline". It's a simple, soloable process that requires almost no effort. Ten, maybe fifteen minutes each day, spread over five days. To Speak As a Dragon was an important part of a questline...and I believe they removed a goodly sized, and difficult chunk of that in order to accomodate the wishes of their customers. Selling a flying mount, and allowing people to skip a pathetically easy quest, (for those who have DoV), or allowing those without DoV to acquire a flying mount has no impact on the game, or other people that play the game. It's a bit of fluff...but since the often made predictions of selling raid gear on the marketplace -still- haven't happened, I guess the few that complain about everything anyway, will latch onto anything SOE gives them, and run with it.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:17 AM   #96
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Anev@Najena wrote:

oh wow! this is why I love forums. When the flying mounts first came out there was tons of outrage that it took 5 days to get them, a lot of people were angry that they had to do the quest over and over again with alts. I remember them screaming for SOE to make it so they didn't have to wait 5 days. Now SOE has done that and everyone is mad that other people don't have to wait 5 days.

This makes no sense, I'll never understand why people care so much about what everyone else is doing. I did the quest, waited my 5 days, got my flying mount, and never looked back. I couldn't care less how anyone else gets theirs. It does not effect my gameplay in any way. The way I see it, I can now ramp up the crafting on my alts, and get a flying mount when it is much more useful.

TLDR: Did you really think that the 5 day wait on flying mounts was going to last forever? It had to end sometime.

Remember the flying carpet fiasco? Once upon a time, there was only one way to get a flying carpet, (which in reality was nothing more than a ground mount anyway), and very few people per server had managed to acquire one. Some that did, so proud of their accomplishment, would park their toon, on it's carpet, in the most conspicously busy areas of Qeynos they could find...for hours and hours and hours, just so everyone else would know that THEY had a carpet. Then SOE added a flying carpet quest to DoF that anyone could do. All hell broke loose on the forums. Similar to this thread, but moreso.

The moral of this story...what's unique today, will be commonplace tomorrow. Just because you had to follow a certain path to acquire something, doesn't mean everyone else will have to in the future.

Kudos to SOE. They're putting things on the marketplace that people want, and that do not have an impact on the game in general.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:23 AM   #97
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Padeshar@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Padeshar@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Can you please make it so that its a straight +5 to everything on both, instead of white being caster and black scout? And as it is now why is the +range on the caster (white) and not the scout (black). Please just consolidate them so we can go with the color we want. Or make 2 of both colors one scout one caster.

^^ this

Careful there. I'd kill for another +5 to range.  As a scout, the further I can get from the nasty mobs, the better. With AA choices, I'm practically standing with the mage groups now, and I think SOE is aware of this. I do think they could make either mount available in different colors though...possibly even with different tack. I'd like mine to be war-barded, for instance, and others have expressed interest in having theirs without tack, or saddle at all.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:36 AM   #98
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Careful there. I'd kill for another +5 to range.  As a scout, the further I can get from the nasty mobs, the better. With AA choices, I'm practically standing with the mage groups now, and I think SOE is aware of this.

You realize of course that +5 to Ranged skill has absolutely nothing to do with how far your ranged attacks will reach . . .

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:40 AM   #99
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Banditman wrote:

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Careful there. I'd kill for another +5 to range.  As a scout, the further I can get from the nasty mobs, the better. With AA choices, I'm practically standing with the mage groups now, and I think SOE is aware of this.

You realize of course that +5 to Ranged skill has absolutely nothing to do with how far your ranged attacks will reach . . .

My main likes to stab stuff. Darts and arrows are for tights wearing rangers.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 10:58 AM   #100
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I love the look of the pegasus mounts.  I'm excited about these things.  I don't mind spending some money as I know it helps this game survive and progress.

However...

WoW just released a new flying mount as well...

http://us.blizzard.com/store/detail...l?id=1100001495

The part I'd like you to pay special attention to is this:

"Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game pet key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."

For the love of all that's right about this game, please make these mounts on the Station Store the same way!  I have 10 toons now and may get more (love additional slots...one time fee $10 feels fine).  That's $195 to get one for all my critters???  Not going to happen.  I have enough station cash atm to get two so I have to choose the two toons I want to have them and then even if I wait for another triple cash sale (looking for a Paypal account to bribe hackers right now (j/k)) it would still cost me $52 of RL money to get these mounts.  And...AND(!!!)...I know you're going to make more and I'll want those too.

So please...PLEASE(!!!!)...make these things like the warcraft mounts and keep churning them out.  Right now I can see I won't be able to keep up financially if you do add more and frankly I feel gouged to have to pay for one for each toon if I want each toon to have one (and I do *weeping*).

Other than that...LOVE THESE MOUNTS!

--Edit: spelling and clarification.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:01 AM   #101
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DoingMyOwnThing wrote:

I love the look of the pegasus mounts.  I'm excited about these things.  I don't mind spending some money as I know it helps this game survive and progress.

However...

WoW just released a new flying mount as well...

http://us.blizzard.com/store/detail...l?id=1100001495

The part I'd like you to pay special attention to is this:

"Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game pet key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."

For the love of all that's right about this game, please make these mounts on the Station Store the same way!  I have 10 toons now and may get more (love additional slots...one time fee $10 feels fine).  That's $195 to get one for all my critters???  Not going to happen.  I have enough station cash atm to get two so I have to choose the two toons I want to have them and then even if I wait for another triple cash sale (looking for a Paypal account to bribe hackers right now (j/k)) it would still cost me $52 of RL money to get these mounts.  And...AND(!!!)...I know you're going to make more and I'll want those too.

So please...PLEASE(!!!!)...make these things like the warcraft mounts and keep churning them out.  Right now I can see I won't be able to keep up financially if you do add more and frankly I feel gouged to have to pay for one for each toon if I want each toon to have one (and I do *weeping*).

Other than that...LOVE THESE MOUNTS!

--Edit: spelling and clarification.

Doupt this happens, Sony does not care about what makes it better for us. If only 5% buy two mounts they make tons more money.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:07 AM   #102
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The Pegasus looks a wee bit too heavy for a flying steed. I don't think I'll be buying one atm.

Love that dragon, although it is OTT. What game is that from? A more sombre, deadly-looking thing would suit EQ2, rather than that, which looks to me like an overly fussy piece of jewellery. But certainly body-shape and bridle are along the right lines.

LOL at the cotton wool on the WoW "Winged Guardian" - for soft landings!

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:11 AM   #103
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Tempted wrote:

DoingMyOwnThing wrote:

I love the look of the pegasus mounts.  I'm excited about these things.  I don't mind spending some money as I know it helps this game survive and progress.

However...

WoW just released a new flying mount as well...

http://us.blizzard.com/store/detail...l?id=1100001495

The part I'd like you to pay special attention to is this:

"Once activated, this World of Warcraft in-game pet key applies to all present and future characters on a single North American World of Warcraft license."

For the love of all that's right about this game, please make these mounts on the Station Store the same way!  I have 10 toons now and may get more (love additional slots...one time fee $10 feels fine).  That's $195 to get one for all my critters???  Not going to happen.  I have enough station cash atm to get two so I have to choose the two toons I want to have them and then even if I wait for another triple cash sale (looking for a Paypal account to bribe hackers right now (j/k)) it would still cost me $52 of RL money to get these mounts.  And...AND(!!!)...I know you're going to make more and I'll want those too.

So please...PLEASE(!!!!)...make these things like the warcraft mounts and keep churning them out.  Right now I can see I won't be able to keep up financially if you do add more and frankly I feel gouged to have to pay for one for each toon if I want each toon to have one (and I do *weeping*).

Other than that...LOVE THESE MOUNTS!

--Edit: spelling and clarification.

Doupt this happens, Sony does not care about what makes it better for us. If only 5% buy two mounts they make tons more money.

They'll get my money for at least 2, but only because of the triple cash thing (glad I held off on spending it).  After that, no way.  If they released one of these for $20 under the aforementioned conditions on a schedule of say, every three months or so, I'd probably buy each one if I liked it.  I think they have a lot of cool mounts on the store, but the price/per toon is an enormous turn-off.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:12 AM   #104
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Very nice   

Are there different colors?    Sorry at work 

What is the animation like?   Does it look like a Pegasus as in wings and hooves moving.  Or just wings moving and legs tucked up maybe?  

It looks like pegasus. Love it.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:17 AM   #105
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Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:

Doomey wrote:

It's an absolute shame this is marketplace only.

Yep, I am so sick of all the cool looking stuff being real life cash only while people that don't like this crap get reused/recolored obsolete graphics.

It's called choice. If you don't want to use SC, then don't. No different than the choice to raid, tradeskill, do an instance, not do an instance...... You'd have no issue with saying that people who don't want to raid don't deserve access to raid drops. People who don't want to use SC don't have access to the stuff on there. As a carpenter, I'd love to be able to make some of the stuff that is available on SC. It is what it is. No matter what people are going to gripe.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:18 AM   #106
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Velo@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Quite possibly the worst thing I've ever seen the game.

brb flying my unicorn

Even for a fantasy game this is taking it a bit far.

As opposed of course to a flying griffon.

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Anev@Najena wrote:

oh wow! this is why I love forums. When the flying mounts first came out there was tons of outrage that it took 5 days to get them, a lot of people were angry that they had to do the quest over and over again with alts. I remember them screaming for SOE to make it so they didn't have to wait 5 days. Now SOE has done that and everyone is mad that other people don't have to wait 5 days.

This makes no sense, I'll never understand why people care so much about what everyone else is doing. I did the quest, waited my 5 days, got my flying mount, and never looked back. I couldn't care less how anyone else gets theirs. It does not effect my gameplay in any way. The way I see it, I can now ramp up the crafting on my alts, and get a flying mount when it is much more useful.

TLDR: Did you really think that the 5 day wait on flying mounts was going to last forever? It had to end sometime.

This is typical. They screamed and complained about SC, but then when they could not buy the expansion by using their SC to get it at half price, they screamed and complained. Truth is, no matter what is done, they scream and complain. It seems that if you hate a company or game so much, you wouldn't bother to give them your time and money. But then, what would you scream and complain about? I do see the point about the waiting part. That was annoying. OTOH, you are quite correct, who cares how someone else plays the game? Some people just feel the need to control others any way they can. Personally, I don't complete quests just to prove I am some kind of badass. I complete them to complete a goal, get the reward or some other reason. I don't really care if someone else is impressed with my armor. I don't generally do inspects on others unless they are wearing something I am interested in and want to know what it is. I don't care. But for far too many, their whole life revolves around being the resident badass in a video game. So they will complain about and try to control everything.

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Unread 06-08-2011, 11:32 AM   #108
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Lathain_Sarathai wrote:

I wonder why we pay subscription, live server are considered as EQ2X... make us pay for something we already pay for.

No one is making you do anything. It's called choice.

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DngrMouse wrote:

Anev@Najena wrote:

oh wow! this is why I love forums. When the flying mounts first came out there was tons of outrage that it took 5 days to get them, a lot of people were angry that they had to do the quest over and over again with alts. I remember them screaming for SOE to make it so they didn't have to wait 5 days. Now SOE has done that and everyone is mad that other people don't have to wait 5 days.

This makes no sense, I'll never understand why people care so much about what everyone else is doing. I did the quest, waited my 5 days, got my flying mount, and never looked back. I couldn't care less how anyone else gets theirs. It does not effect my gameplay in any way. The way I see it, I can now ramp up the crafting on my alts, and get a flying mount when it is much more useful.

TLDR: Did you really think that the 5 day wait on flying mounts was going to last forever? It had to end sometime.

Remember the flying carpet fiasco? Once upon a time, there was only one way to get a flying carpet, (which in reality was nothing more than a ground mount anyway), and very few people per server had managed to acquire one. Some that did, so proud of their accomplishment, would park their toon, on it's carpet, in the most conspicously busy areas of Qeynos they could find...for hours and hours and hours, just so everyone else would know that THEY had a carpet. Then SOE added a flying carpet quest to DoF that anyone could do. All hell broke loose on the forums. Similar to this thread, but moreso.

The moral of this story...what's unique today, will be commonplace tomorrow. Just because you had to follow a certain path to acquire something, doesn't mean everyone else will have to in the future.

Kudos to SOE. They're putting things on the marketplace that people want, and that do not have an impact on the game in general.

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

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Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

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d1anaw wrote:

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

Yeeeah why wouldn't they wait until today to put the flying mounts in the marketplace and avoid all the complaining..? Maybe SoE likes to make people complain...

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feldon30 wrote:

d1anaw wrote:

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

What announcement?

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DngrMouse wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

d1anaw wrote:

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

What announcement?

This one:

Coming Soon to EQII: Leapers and Gliders!

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Anev@Najena wrote:

oh wow! this is why I love forums. When the flying mounts first came out there was tons of outrage that it took 5 days to get them, a lot of people were angry that they had to do the quest over and over again with alts. I remember them screaming for SOE to make it so they didn't have to wait 5 days. Now SOE has done that and everyone is mad that other people don't have to wait 5 days.

This makes no sense, I'll never understand why people care so much about what everyone else is doing. I did the quest, waited my 5 days, got my flying mount, and never looked back. I couldn't care less how anyone else gets theirs. It does not effect my gameplay in any way. The way I see it, I can now ramp up the crafting on my alts, and get a flying mount when it is much more useful.

I was just thinking this same thing...

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Sambril wrote:

DngrMouse wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

d1anaw wrote:

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

What announcement?

This one:

Coming Soon to EQII: Leapers and Gliders!

Those are pretty damned cool. I'll need one of each.

However, a certain segment of the player base, (and even ex players that can't seem to stay away), will still complain.

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DngrMouse wrote:

Sambril wrote:

DngrMouse wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

d1anaw wrote:

Seriously? Acquiring the carpet was that exclusive? Who knew? I think I only did it on 2 characters because the final quest was very difficult at the time and after two, didn't seem worth it anymore. I had no idea it was that big of a deal. hahaha. Kind of supports what I said before that some people need to feel like badasses in a video game to complete them.

At the time the carpet was a must-do quest for all 47 characters. I was frustrated when upgrades were never made available.

Anywho, the whining in this thread is pretty moot with today's announcement.

What announcement?

This one:

Coming Soon to EQII: Leapers and Gliders!

Those are pretty damned cool. I'll need one of each.

However, a certain segment of the player base, (and even ex players that can't seem to stay away), will still complain.

I (and most people I would assume) don't care about stuff being availiable on marketplace however, give us an option for getting something similar for PLAYING THE GAME.

And "playing the game" doesn't included LoN or the boss raidmob of the expansion that only like .5% of the playerbase ever kill.

I am just sick of all the effort being put into marketplace while most stuff available in game look REALLY REALLY bad. (Armors/weapons/mounts ect)

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NrthnStar5 wrote:

Are the as fast as the quested mounts? How much SC do they cost?

a little under 20$ and not only do they have hte speed but they have stats the quested griffons don't.

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Cerilynn@Crushbone wrote:

The only issue I have with the new mounts is that people are calling them pegasii.

Pegasus was a stallion, the lead stallion of Zeus's flock of winged horses.  Calling the species Pegasii is like telling your kid you're going to take him to the pet store to pick out a Spot, Tigger or Nemo.

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+1 at last somone like me who wants to be accurate about it.

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Arduous@The Bazaar wrote:

-Love the White Pegasus

Thank you for putting it on Market place -- because of (triple SC)   I had no issues spending the 1950 on the mount.

I am glad there is a Flying mount...I do not have to quest for.

-I have already done the Gryphon quest 3 times and the "Cloud of Bats once"  honestly I was not looking forward to another run through.

  I really do not care if you give flight away to lvl 1's .... Flight is Fun ...and should be avail to everyone.

I could also with the tripple cash but I'm thinking long and hard about it since it is like i"m buying an advantage over tohers who dont' have hte ready cash on hand to get a mount with Stats and no time sink when they have to wait 5 days to get a mount that doesn't have stats that help them just hte run and flying speed.

Hm I have an idea why dont' you add the stats to the griffons the rest of us quested and had to wait 5 days for hmm.

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Padeshar@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Padeshar@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Can you please make it so that its a straight +5 to everything on both, instead of white being caster and black scout? And as it is now why is the +range on the caster (white) and not the scout (black). Please just consolidate them so we can go with the color we want. Or make 2 of both colors one scout one caster.

^^ this

and while you are at it give the griffons we quested for the same +5 to everything.

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