Why the nerf to the ratonga illusion item?

Kenelven · 06-02-2011, 12:53 PM

SMILEY

Anastasie · 06-02-2011, 12:54 PM

What did they do to it? Is it still canceling on a mount?

Kenelven · 06-02-2011, 12:55 PM

its now 10 charges instead of unlimited

Iskandar · 06-02-2011, 01:02 PM

It's really not too surprising -- not much point in buying the 300sc cheese table (which has the exact same 1-hour clicky Ratonga illusion) if you can get it for free with the charm. It also keeps the freebie from imposing on existing ingame Ratonga illusions, such as class-specific illusions and a collection quest reward.

soulsercher · 06-02-2011, 01:05 PM

I had it on auto-consume, so good thing I noticed the change before it ran out. Now I'm a very unhappy Iksar though, I was blending in with my food- err... friendly neighbours so well.

Kizee · 06-02-2011, 01:08 PM

Typical $oE.

Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion.

Neskonlith · 06-02-2011, 01:19 PM

Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:

Typical $oE.
Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion.

The cheese doesn't give an item with charges? Might work out better that way if it did.

Kizee · 06-02-2011, 01:21 PM

Neskonlith wrote:

Hissyfit@Oasis wrote:
Typical $oE.
Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion.
The cheese doesn't give an item with charges? Might work out better that way if it did.

I wouldn't think it does. I would assume it works like every other house item clicky in the game.

I don't bother with SC unless it is free.

Fizzlecog · 06-02-2011, 01:58 PM

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:

its now 10 charges instead of unlimited

SMILEY

Cyliena · 06-02-2011, 02:01 PM

Fizzlecog@Splitpaw wrote:

Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote:
its now 10 charges instead of unlimited

Aww, guess I'll stop using mine now and stuff it in bank for special occasions. Was fun while it lasted.

Neskonlith · 06-02-2011, 02:02 PM

Cutting the cheese should give a player slices with charges, so that a player can carry it around and not need to visit the house quite as often.

/snicker

SmokeJumper · 06-02-2011, 02:58 PM

The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now.

However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion.

I hope this clears things up a bit.

Warpax · 06-02-2011, 03:05 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now.
However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion.
I hope this clears things up a bit.

that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges..

Tyrus Dracofire · 06-02-2011, 03:06 PM

when we get new tab for illusions and guises just like mounts and currencies tab???

i still got those petrified eyes and newer guise items.

Warpax · 06-02-2011, 03:07 PM

Tyrus@Butcherblock wrote:

when we get new tab for illusions and guises just like mounts and currencies tab???
i still got those petrified eyes and newer guise items.

thats a very cool idea!

SmokeJumper · 06-02-2011, 03:09 PM

Warpax wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:
The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now.
However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges..

lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited.

Vellisse · 06-02-2011, 03:12 PM

[Petrified Ratonga Eye] + 100 Ratonga Bones = 4p at most.

It'll last you for awhile and it does the same thing.

soulsercher · 06-02-2011, 03:13 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited.

That's a real pity. Oh well, better go make someone rich by buying Ratonga bones off the broker then. *very sad Iksar*EDIT: Nevermind, cheapest bone is 55g on CB atm. Not worth it.

arieste · 06-02-2011, 03:25 PM

why nerf this? I mean, the game has an unlimited Dark Elf illusion.. unlimited giant illusion, all kinds of other unlimited illusion.. if people want an unlimited rat illusion.. [Removed for Content] not? sad to see this, ratonga are such a uniquely EQ2 race compared to other MMOs, it's almost a promotion for the game to let everybody have a perma illusion...

p3t3rl1 · 06-02-2011, 03:30 PM

Dude, petrified ratonga eye on is 12 p on broker and bone goes for 20 gold each at least. Get your facts straight.

vexrm · 06-02-2011, 03:32 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

Warpax wrote:
SmokeJumper wrote:
The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now.
However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges..
lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited.

You were told wrong. Very wrong. It was unlimited recasted each hour. It's now not. Sorry smoke, you gotta watch what you're believed. This isn't the first time you've came in here to correct the player base and been told completely wrong. *Sighs* It's getting silly.

p3t3rl1 · 06-02-2011, 03:41 PM

Ratonga is an unique feature of EQ2 for alot of players and it is sad to see that this illusion is only so temporarily and situational. I am pretty sure I am not the only one that would like it to have more charges or better yet become permanent.

Cloudrat · 06-02-2011, 03:55 PM

Th policy of taking things away because "it wasn't intended", especially when it is nothing but a fluff present, is something that has given SoE the reputation of being mean.

This is something that could have easily been left alone and said oops my bad guess you get a better item

edit:typo correction

Loranthala · 06-02-2011, 04:17 PM

If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change?

soulsercher · 06-02-2011, 04:29 PM

Simonx@Unrest wrote:

If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change?

I love being an oversized lizard, but occasionally it's fun to run around as a dark elf, ratonga or what-not without worrying about the illusion disappearing after 10 uses.

That's what illusions are there for in the first place. FUN.

Cloudrat · 06-02-2011, 04:30 PM

Simonx@Unrest wrote:

If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change?

Not the point lol umm cloudrat is a rat silly. I was talking about policy not the particular item that was taken away this time.

Iskandar · 06-02-2011, 04:32 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

Warpax wrote:
SmokeJumper wrote:
The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now.
However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges..
lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited.

Yep, it's true! It also wasn't an expendable potion, it was a permanent charm slot-eqippable clicky. Sounds more like Item A was switched with Item B. Whoopsies!

Lethe5683 · 06-02-2011, 05:20 PM

All illusions should be unlimited charges, there's no reason for them not to be as long as they are just illusions not illusions tied to some stat change like with totems.

Juravael · 06-02-2011, 06:20 PM

What a shame, another item nerfed to near uselessness.

I was happy yesterday when I got my Gift of the Underfoot, especially seeing that it was Unlimited with a 1 hour duration. Now, just 10 charges - not so happy.

Morrias · 06-02-2011, 07:13 PM

Just get the unlimited ratonga illusion from collections, it's cheap as hell anyways.

06-02-2011, 01:19 PM	#7
Neskonlith Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,834	Hissyfit@Oasis wrote: Typical $oE. Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion. The cheese doesn't give an item with charges? Might work out better that way if it did. __________________ "...Gibbets, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of carrion in the morning. You know, one time we had Freeport TG defended, pvp for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked to their revive spot. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' QQ body. The smell, you know that putrescent smell, the whole writ house. Smelled likeâ€¦ victory..." - Apocalypse Gnome

06-02-2011, 01:21 PM	#8
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Neskonlith wrote: Hissyfit@Oasis wrote: Typical $oE. Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion. The cheese doesn't give an item with charges? Might work out better that way if it did. I wouldn't think it does. I would assume it works like every other house item clicky in the game. I don't bother with SC unless it is free.

06-02-2011, 01:58 PM	#9
Fizzlecog Server: Splitpaw Loremaster Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southampton Posts: 105	Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: its now 10 charges instead of unlimited __________________ ------------------------------ 90 Warlock (retired) 90 Beserker 90 Defiler 90 Shadowknight 90 Illusionist 90 Coercer 90 Brigand 90 Inquisitor 90 Necromancer 90 Ranger --------------------------------

06-02-2011, 02:01 PM	#10
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Fizzlecog@Splitpaw wrote: Kenelven@Antonia Bayle wrote: its now 10 charges instead of unlimited Aww, guess I'll stop using mine now and stuff it in bank for special occasions. Was fun while it lasted.

06-02-2011, 02:02 PM	#11
Neskonlith Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,834	Cutting the cheese should give a player slices with charges, so that a player can carry it around and not need to visit the house quite as often. /snicker __________________ "...Gibbets, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of carrion in the morning. You know, one time we had Freeport TG defended, pvp for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked to their revive spot. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' QQ body. The smell, you know that putrescent smell, the whole writ house. Smelled likeâ€¦ victory..." - Apocalypse Gnome

06-02-2011, 12:53 PM	#1
Kenelven Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Miscreants Rank: Treasure Hunter Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26

06-02-2011, 12:54 PM	#2
Anastasie Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 850	What did they do to it? Is it still canceling on a mount?

06-02-2011, 12:55 PM	#3
Kenelven Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Miscreants Rank: Treasure Hunter Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	its now 10 charges instead of unlimited

06-02-2011, 01:02 PM	#4
Iskandar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 1,047	It's really not too surprising -- not much point in buying the 300sc cheese table (which has the exact same 1-hour clicky Ratonga illusion) if you can get it for free with the charm. It also keeps the freebie from imposing on existing ingame Ratonga illusions, such as class-specific illusions and a collection quest reward.

06-02-2011, 01:05 PM	#5
soulsercher Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 81	I had it on auto-consume, so good thing I noticed the change before it ran out. Now I'm a very unhappy Iksar though, I was blending in with my food- err... friendly neighbours so well.

06-02-2011, 01:08 PM	#6
Kizee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,093	Typical $oE. Granted the cheese did the same thing....nobody is going to run back to their house every our to get the illusion.

06-02-2011, 02:58 PM	#12
SmokeJumper DoD Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,056	The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now. However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion. I hope this clears things up a bit. __________________ Director of Development EverQuest Franchise (EQ, EQII, EQN)

06-02-2011, 03:05 PM	#13
Warpax Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 298	SmokeJumper wrote: The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now. However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion. I hope this clears things up a bit. that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges..

06-02-2011, 03:06 PM	#14
Tyrus Dracofire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,274	when we get new tab for illusions and guises just like mounts and currencies tab??? i still got those petrified eyes and newer guise items.

06-02-2011, 03:07 PM	#15
Warpax Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 298	Tyrus@Butcherblock wrote: when we get new tab for illusions and guises just like mounts and currencies tab??? i still got those petrified eyes and newer guise items. thats a very cool idea!

06-02-2011, 03:09 PM	#16
SmokeJumper DoD Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,056	Warpax wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now. However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion. I hope this clears things up a bit. that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges.. lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited. __________________ Director of Development EverQuest Franchise (EQ, EQII, EQN)

06-02-2011, 03:12 PM	#17
Vellisse Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 389	[Petrified Ratonga Eye] + 100 Ratonga Bones = 4p at most. It'll last you for awhile and it does the same thing. __________________

06-02-2011, 03:13 PM	#18
soulsercher Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 81	SmokeJumper wrote: lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited. That's a real pity. Oh well, better go make someone rich by buying Ratonga bones off the broker then. very sad IksarEDIT: Nevermind, cheapest bone is 55g on CB atm. Not worth it.

06-02-2011, 03:25 PM	#19
arieste Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 586	why nerf this? I mean, the game has an unlimited Dark Elf illusion.. unlimited giant illusion, all kinds of other unlimited illusion.. if people want an unlimited rat illusion.. [Removed for Content] not? sad to see this, ratonga are such a uniquely EQ2 race compared to other MMOs, it's almost a promotion for the game to let everybody have a perma illusion... __________________

06-02-2011, 03:30 PM	#20
p3t3rl1 Lord Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 202	Dude, petrified ratonga eye on is 12 p on broker and bone goes for 20 gold each at least. Get your facts straight. __________________

06-02-2011, 03:32 PM	#21
vexrm Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 284	SmokeJumper wrote: Warpax wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now. However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion. I hope this clears things up a bit. that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges.. lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited. You were told wrong. Very wrong. It was unlimited recasted each hour. It's now not. Sorry smoke, you gotta watch what you're believed. This isn't the first time you've came in here to correct the player base and been told completely wrong. Sighs It's getting silly. __________________ Well, CC is useful in dungeons. I'm amazed and eating my words.

06-02-2011, 03:41 PM	#22
p3t3rl1 Lord Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 202	Ratonga is an unique feature of EQ2 for alot of players and it is sad to see that this illusion is only so temporarily and situational. I am pretty sure I am not the only one that would like it to have more charges or better yet become permanent. __________________

06-02-2011, 03:55 PM	#23
Cloudrat Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,560	Th policy of taking things away because "it wasn't intended", especially when it is nothing but a fluff present, is something that has given SoE the reputation of being mean. This is something that could have easily been left alone and said oops my bad guess you get a better item edit:typo correction __________________

06-02-2011, 04:17 PM	#24
Loranthala Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: WA Posts: 341	If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change? __________________ Aka Simonsays from Nektulos and Lavastorm represent!!

06-02-2011, 04:29 PM	#25
soulsercher Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 81	Simonx@Unrest wrote: If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change? I love being an oversized lizard, but occasionally it's fun to run around as a dark elf, ratonga or what-not without worrying about the illusion disappearing after 10 uses. That's what illusions are there for in the first place. FUN.

06-02-2011, 04:30 PM	#26
Cloudrat Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,560	Simonx@Unrest wrote: If you want a perma rat illusion, why not just race change? Not the point lol umm cloudrat is a rat silly. I was talking about policy not the particular item that was taken away this time. __________________

06-02-2011, 04:32 PM	#27
Iskandar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 1,047	SmokeJumper wrote: Warpax wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: The free illusion potion that we gave out when ratongas went neutral only ever had 10 charges. There was a bug for a short time where it wasn't showing that text in the description panel of the potion, but that's fixed now. However, the cheese item that you can buy for your house from the marketplace is, and always has been, unlimited charges of the same ratonga illusion. I hope this clears things up a bit. that's a quite peculiar bug.. description went from 1hour/Unlimited to 12hour/10 charges.. lol. If that's true, then that's not what I was told and I need to go look sternly at someone. Sorry if that was true, but if it was, then it was definitely an error of a different type. That illusion potion was never intended to be unlimited. Yep, it's true! It also wasn't an expendable potion, it was a permanent charm slot-eqippable clicky. Sounds more like Item A was switched with Item B. Whoopsies!

06-02-2011, 05:20 PM	#28
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	All illusions should be unlimited charges, there's no reason for them not to be as long as they are just illusions not illusions tied to some stat change like with totems.

06-02-2011, 06:20 PM	#29
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	What a shame, another item nerfed to near uselessness. I was happy yesterday when I got my Gift of the Underfoot, especially seeing that it was Unlimited with a 1 hour duration. Now, just 10 charges - not so happy.

06-02-2011, 07:13 PM	#30
Morrias Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Dynasty Reborn Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 552	Just get the unlimited ratonga illusion from collections, it's cheap as hell anyways.