Anyone else annoyed by transportation pathing?

[niteowl53]

Right now I am working on Saving soles HQ in Lava. To get from the Western Pass mount to the Temple of Solusek Ro, on the map they are directly across from one another. But the mounts go through every single mount station, to get from one to the other. this is very annoying. It is not because of the terrain either becasue going to Najena the horse mounts fly up over the terrain and over the top of the lava.  The pathiing needs to be fixed in all zones to go the shortest route between the two points.  I really hope they fix this annoying thing

[Jaremai]

At one point in time you could only go from horse A to horse B.  If you wanted to get to horse E, you had to then click from B over to F maybe back to C and then to E.

When they stupified travelling, they made linking possible, so if you wanted to go from A to E, you could.  However, all they're doing is automating the path between.. A to B to F to C to E.

That's why you're getting a scenic tour.

Yes, it would be nice if they went back and repathed the zone transports to not be so meandering, but let me ask you this.  Are you more annoyed by this meandering path, or if you still had to run there on foot?

[Wurm]

Very annoyed... and the worst one so far is Enchanted Lands.

[JoarAddam]

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

[niteowl53]

More annoyed... why put in a bus and bus routes if it is going to take me the same amount of time to just run it. The only thing the current pathing does, it make it so you dont get off one mount then have to get on another. In lava the one mount is only about 4" from one point to another on the map, yet it goes all they back down to najena at the beginning and hits every mark along the way .... it's just nonsense.  Just think of it in real terms, if you were running this as a bus line, would it be more economical and time saving to do the direct point to point, or run the entire route every time a passenger got on?  It doesn't even make sense that they did this, unless they got lazy or just didn't have the time to get the moun ts in at the time, then forgot about them.

To the previous poster, if you think EL is bad wait till you have the wonder of experiencing the one in Lava, LOL

[niteowl53]

JoarAddam wrote:

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

Way more than a few seconds, I had time to make this post and a few others, go to the restroom, wash my hands get a drink and it was still trotting along the path, LOL. And if you want to call the fire department, go ahead, just make sure they don't use these mounts or your house is toast   Yes these were suppose to be improvements, but they are somewhat unfinished, they should finish their pathing of them. It is not logical.

[MysidiaDrakkenbane]

JoarAddam wrote:

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

I take it you've never flown in Kunark. I can go and make a cup of tea (boiling the water from cold, btw), for what it takes for me to fly to some of those places.

Also, the horse ride in Ferrot is horribad.

[Wurm]

JoarAddam wrote:

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

Forget to take your medicine today bro?

I still DO RUN in EL because its ALOT faster than using the stupid horses who run over half the zone in the wrong way before doubling back.

If you can't figure out that their is something WRONG with our devs always taking the easy way out, then well then I don't know what else to say.

[Wurm]

niteowl53 wrote:

To the previous poster, if you think EL is bad wait till you have the wonder of experiencing the one in Lava, LOL

I use the portals in LS because I already know how bad the horses are there lol

[Avirodar]

The bird ride from Nektulos Docks, to Darklight Station, is another slow ride. The Feerrot horse pathing is also another bad one where I run half of it on foot, because it is notably faster.While this is hardly game breaking stuff, it would be nice if it was on SOE's radar to tweak, when resources are less strained from the upcoming expansion. 

[MysidiaDrakkenbane]

Avirodar@Oasis wrote:

The bird ride from Nektulos Docks, to Darklight Station, is another slow ride. The Feerrot horse pathing is also another bad one where I run half of it on foot, because it is notably faster.While this is hardly game breaking stuff, it would be nice if it was on SOE's radar to tweak, when resources are less strained from the upcoming expansion. 

These are the types of things that should be fixed before an expansion is even mentioned.

[Frenzywolf]

I agree the pathing is aweful. Definately a good afk moment as sitting there watching EVERY station to finally reach your destination is BORING! I guess if I want to get from point A to point E I expect a straight path there not the entire zone scenic tour.

[Shareana]

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[Jovie]

I don't mind the extra pathing as it gives me a chance to hit the head or grab a beer.

[Eritius]

This topic is already being covered in another thread.

[stgninja]

Back in my day we had to run everywhere, yup no such thing as mounts in EL or Lavastorm . . and we had to complete a quest to find griffin eggs before we could even ride the things!  

Anyway I don't find any of the flight paths "annoying", what I do find annoying is people complaining about trivial things such as this. 

[Klive]

Barefoot, in the snow, uphill both ways!

[Frenzywolf]

Poltergeist@Nagafen wrote:

Back in my day we had to run everywhere, yup no such thing as mounts in EL or Lavastorm . . and we had to complete a quest to find griffin eggs before we could even ride the things!  

Anyway I don't find any of the flight paths "annoying", what I do find annoying is people complaining about trivial things such as this. 

Grandpa talking to grandchild, "Yep son, in my day we had to walk 5 miles in the snow barefooted to school everyday". Again, just because YOU did don't make it better. It was a TIME SINK back then and really don't have much to do with ability to play your character at all, completing quests (other than going to gather an egg to turn in, which you can still do btw). Things have been improved on as most games do improve on stuff and I don't find it trival that we would like less time sinks and more active playing time.... to you it is trival, to others it is NOT.

[Landiin]

OMGZ I click and I am not there in a blink of a eye? /ragequit...

[stgninja]

Frenzywolf@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Poltergeist@Nagafen wrote:

Back in my day we had to run everywhere, yup no such thing as mounts in EL or Lavastorm . . and we had to complete a quest to find griffin eggs before we could even ride the things!

Anyway I don't find any of the flight paths "annoying", what I do find annoying is people complaining about trivial things such as this.

Grandpa talking to grandchild, "Yep son, in my day we had to walk 5 miles in the snow barefooted to school everyday". Again, just because YOU did don't make it better. It was a TIME SINK back then and really don't have much to do with ability to play your character at all, completely quests (other than going to gather an egg to turn in, which you can still do btw). Things have been improved on as most games do improve on stuff and I don't find it trival that we would like less time sinks and more active playing time.... to you it is trival, to others it is NOT.

So how much more "active playing time" would you have if all the mounts in every zone went directly from point A to point B?  1 minute?  2 minutes? 

Sorry but I find complaing about the flight path of a mount trival.  You should petition SOE to add teleporters in the game that teleport you to your quest mobs and back to the quest NPC.  When you do write up your petition make sure to add in random words in all caps as you did in your forum post.

[Embret]

I used to love the discovery of having to find all the posts, eggs, etc to be able to use the transport in a given zone.  That being said, I have 2 active accounts and at one time 4 of them.  It gets pretty old traversing these zones for the 30th time and I welcomed the horses when implemented.  That being said, I didn't care for the odd way of traversing a zone.  There were no direct routes and it was annoying.  I had to sometimes take three or four rides to get to my destination and if I had to jump at some point and got bored and looked elsewhere I might have to start over.  It was an improvement, but still could use work.  Then they did the linking bit....that was a craptastic bit of programming there.  In fact, they didn't do any programming, they simply linked the paths and that's why you see the odd pathing now.  I truly think any programmer worth his or her salt would be embarrassed by that bit of code.  I know I would be.

Further, ad hominem attacks against someone for stating something that should be addressed is not the way you should speak your displeasure for someone pointing out a flaw in your beloved game.  I love this game myself but know there's room for improvement and this is one of the venues to make it happen.

[MurFalad]

Mysidiax@Antonia Bayle wrote:

JoarAddam wrote:

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

I take it you've never flown in Kunark. I can go and make a cup of tea (boiling the water from cold, btw), for what it takes for me to fly to some of those places.

And before the pathing was put in you just had to sit there waiting for each gryphon stop to click on the next flight dreaming about a nice hot cup of tea

If we are to have a large virtual world of Norrath to adventure in then travel times come as part of the deal, right now I think the travel times are too fast due to so much zoning, but that's just my opinion.  But since they tied all the flight paths together we do now have the opportunity to fly somewhere and in the meantime take a break for a few minutes (in WoW flying the full length of a continent takes about 20 minutes, we dont have anything that sort of length!).

[MurFalad]

JoarAddam wrote:

TERRIBLE!  It takes you 33 seconds to get somewhere instead of 31!  OMG... call the fire department, tell them to pass on a message to the president that this needs to be fixed now!  Before al qaeda takes advantage of those extra 2 seconds!  Forget that until a year ago, you had to run everywhere in these zones, what's important is that now, we COULD be stopping terrorism 2 seconds at a time!

And thanks for this

[Shareana]

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[Pacus]

You're in the game and trying to be focused.  You're trying to keep the fun alive, trying to recapture the alure.  Trying to get into the moment even, where you are the one who can save the day.  "I'll just go over to this flying disc and, wait!  Wait!!  Where am I going?!  [Removed for Content]!!!"  What little scrap of immersion you were able to obtain is now completely blown due to this ultra stupid mechanic.

You can say what you want about your opinion of what is more important to fix, but no matter what you do (unless you're crafting in your guild hall) you need to travel.  This means that you are ALWAYS being kidnapped and taken for an unwanted tour many, many times a session.  Yes!  This is bad!  This SHOULD be changed.  This impacts every player, of every level, every day.

[CorpseGoddess]

Wurm wrote:

Very annoyed... and the worst one so far is Enchanted Lands.

The worst zone for traveling right now is Moors, hands down.  5 minute balloon rides?  No thank you.

[Brigh]

Streppoch@Guk wrote:

Wurm wrote:

Very annoyed... and the worst one so far is Enchanted Lands.

The worst zone for traveling right now is Moors, hands down.  5 minute balloon rides?  No thank you.

Back in my day you had to wait 5 minutes to use the spires omg (hands everyone some Ritalin)!

[Mwahaha]

Pacus wrote:

You're in the game and trying to be focused. You're trying to keep the fun alive, trying to recapture the alure. Trying to get into the moment even, where you are the one who can save the day. "I'll just go over to this flying disc and, wait! Wait!! Where am I going?! [Removed for Content]!!!" What little scrap of immersion you were able to obtain is now completely blown due to this ultra stupid mechanic.

You can say what you want about your opinion of what is more important to fix, but no matter what you do (unless you're crafting in your guild hall) you need to travel. This means that you are ALWAYS being kidnapped and taken for an unwanted tour many, many times a session. Yes! This is bad! This SHOULD be changed. This impacts every player, of every level, every day.

LOL, you make it sound like they take control of your character and force you to ride their mounts.

You could always run if you don't want to be:

Pacus wrote:

kidnapped and taken for an unwanted tour many, many times a session.

[Solarax]

yeah it annoys the hell out of us too

[feldon30]

niteowl53 wrote:

Right now I am working on Saving soles HQ in Lava. To get from the Western Pass mount to the Temple of Solusek Ro, on the map they are directly across from one another. But the mounts go through every single mount station, to get from one to the other. this is very annoying. It is not because of the terrain either becasue going to Najena the horse mounts fly up over the terrain and over the top of the lava.  The pathiing needs to be fixed in all zones to go the shortest route between the two points.  I really hope they fix this annoying thing

That was the whole point of the zone. If they just drilled a tunnel through (I believe they considered it during the Lavastorm revamp), it would have rendered most of the zone irrelevant.

You don't have to take the horses. You can also use the teleporter pads. You have much better travel options in Lavastorm compared to when it launched. It used to take forever. Remember, Lavastorm used to be the direct connection to an Endgame zone Solusek. They didn't want it to take 30 seconds to get there.