Santa Glug's Gifts

[DrkVsr]

Next year, can Santa pleas go back to only giving out one of each item, like Gifty used to do back when he was still giving out the 'Globes, can add them to the recipe books so that if you want to get extras you can craft them yourself or see if someone else has

It's one thing to get multiples of the baubles and even the cloaks, but mah characters on Butcher have 6 extra copies of the Snowman (yes, that means they got 10 total) that you can't do anything with except destroy (having the option to convert them to a plushie version like the sneak attack version on the New Halas docks would have been great)

[Cusashorn]

I agree, the gifts suck. It was better when you got a unique item every day for a total of 15 items.

[Khiara]

Cusashorn wrote:

I agree, the gifts suck. It was better when you got a unique item every day for a total of 15 items.

QFE

[Mystfit]

Ya know. that poor Garby stands there all beaten up withj broken snowglobes because so many people complained about that then. I think SOE should do whatever they want and darn the complaints cause a. you can't make anyone happy and b/ it's lame to fuss about free gifts given in the spirit of the holidays.

[KerowynnKaotic]

... k ..

#1 - If you think you have too many free gifts from Santa Glug .. STOP ASKING HIM FOR ANOTHER!

Or at the very least cut down on how many Alts you run to him. 

It's the little commonsense things that have the biggest impacts, you know.

#2 - It was never exacty 1 different gift item per gift rotation.  It was always Random. It's still Random.

I should know .. I have over 400 snowglobes running around but only 3 complete sets ..

What you are thinking of is probably due to the fact that the Snowglobes used to be Lore and Garby wouldn't give you the same one again if you had it on your character.  Which sometimes resulted in losing a gift as it would try to give you the random gift but it would be the Lore version so you wouldn't get anything ..

But, all they changed (other than the gift selection) was the timer for when you could received a new gift.

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours. 

It's to give those who don't log on and/or play during exactly the same time every day an opportunity to get their gifts daily, assuming they log on within or after the 18hour period. Instead of having to wait till exactly the same time the next day, which may or may not work well for most of the players.

It's not really meant for those who play the game 24 hours a day to collect multiple gifts .. that's just more of a side effect. And, can already be fixed by referring to comment #1.

#3 - /feedback: Please change the [Enchanted Snowman] to be Tradeable. 

As I am sure not everyone got as many as others did. 

I, personally, got 3 Santa Glug plushies to every 1 Pet gift, which is still low considering how many baubles, cloaks, stockings and bags of coals I got. At least on Live.  On Test, I was lucky to get 1 Plushie & 1 pet for each acct.

[Cusashorn]

The gifts are random, yes, but there was only ONE of them randomly given out. Once you got it, you couldn't get it again. Not because they were lore, but because that item had been removed from the list of gifts left to give out. I remember Gardy telling me that he has no more gifts to give out because I've already recieved them all.

That's all I want to go back to. An algorithm that guarantees that a player will get one of everything that Santa Glug has to give out, and makes sure that you get them all before running into repeats or running out.

[Tyrus Dracofire]

Cusa, i like your suggestion, that really make sense.

[DrkVsr]

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours.

Was wondering why ah was getting the gifts if ah went back before the 24 hours that Glug said was over (made a concerted effort to log in and be standing in front of Glug by 9pm local time every day, even if all ah did was log in each character in turn, /hail Glug, collect and record what they got and then shut down the game)

[NightGod473]

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

#2 - It was never exacty 1 different gift item per gift rotation.  It was always Random. It's still Random.

I should know .. I have over 400 snowglobes running around but only 3 complete sets ..

What you are thinking of is probably due to the fact that the Snowglobes used to be Lore and Garby wouldn't give you the same one again if you had it on your character.  Which sometimes resulted in losing a gift as it would try to give you the random gift but it would be the Lore version so you wouldn't get anything ..

But, all they changed (other than the gift selection) was the timer for when you could received a new gift.

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours. 

It's to give those who don't log on and/or play during exactly the same time every day an opportunity to get their gifts daily, assuming they log on within or after the 18hour period. Instead of having to wait till exactly the same time the next day, which may or may not work well for most of the players.

It's not really meant for those who play the game 24 hours a day to collect multiple gifts .. that's just more of a side effect. And, can already be fixed by referring to comment #1.

That's very, very wrong. Early years you got exactly one of each on each character until you had them all, then you didn't get any more, and it had nothing to do with Lore tags. Cusa has it right.

[KerowynnKaotic]

NightGod473 wrote:

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

#2 - It was never exacty 1 different gift item per gift rotation.  It was always Random. It's still Random.

I should know .. I have over 400 snowglobes running around but only 3 complete sets ..

What you are thinking of is probably due to the fact that the Snowglobes used to be Lore and Garby wouldn't give you the same one again if you had it on your character.  Which sometimes resulted in losing a gift as it would try to give you the random gift but it would be the Lore version so you wouldn't get anything ..

But, all they changed (other than the gift selection) was the timer for when you could received a new gift.

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours. 

It's to give those who don't log on and/or play during exactly the same time every day an opportunity to get their gifts daily, assuming they log on within or after the 18hour period. Instead of having to wait till exactly the same time the next day, which may or may not work well for most of the players.

It's not really meant for those who play the game 24 hours a day to collect multiple gifts .. that's just more of a side effect. And, can already be fixed by referring to comment #1.

That's very, very wrong. Early years you got exactly one of each on each character until you had them all, then you didn't get any more, and it had nothing to do with Lore tags. Cusa has it right.

(sorry for the delay .. I got distracted .. )

.... how did I get dozens of repeat gifts then?   Again .. I have over 400 snowglobes but only a couple complete sets. 

I figured out pretty early in the gift giving thing that if I handed over my gifts to another account or went and placed them in the house I'd still get more gifts the next day without the pesky gift poofing. Because that's what it would do if you had the gifts on your character. It would say I got a gift but I'd have nothing new in my inventory .. unless I went and dropped everything off and started fresh. 

It wouldn't just give you out gifts till you had them all it would give you them out till you had them all on your person because it was LORE.  But, you were really losing out on gifts .. well gift counts ..

[KerowynnKaotic]

But, ignoring that ... whether it was or it wasn't ..

I'll put my vote up here right now .. that I don't want it to be exactly ## gifts.

If I log on every day for the whole month of FF and hail Santa Glug .. I [censored] well want a gift!

People who complain about getting too many gifts: Again .. they have the choice to stop asking for one.

Complaining about crappy gifts: Well most of them are tradeable and you know one person's junk is another's treasure and so forth ...

... and I can't think of any other reason why people would complain about the gifts ..

Well .. storage space but that's an on-going issue regardless. 

I was actually considering loading up snowglobes into backpacks and deleting them.  But, off hand, I'm not sure if the game will let me delete a full backpack, though .. *ponders*

[Eveningsong]

Cusashorn wrote:

That's all I want to go back to. An algorithm that guarantees that a player will get one of everything that Santa Glug has to give out, and makes sure that you get them all before running into repeats or running out.

That's great, except not everyone only wants one of a particular gift.  The new oblong ornaments, for example -- how many people want to put just one ornament on a tree?  Sure its a bit annoying to get enough cloaks for a regiment of gnomes to wear, but they can be sold on the broker or to a vendor.  The extra snowmen are heirloom, so you can pass them along to alts who weren't lucky enough to get their own.  With almost 30 days of opportunity to request a gift for each character on your account (and if you dont' have many characters, you always ahve the option to create some temporary toons just for Frostfell gifts!), I can't believe that many people did not get at least one of each gift available.  And if you did miss something, everything except the snowman is tradeable.  Heck, I was away for 10 days over xmas and still managed to get multiples of everything I was interested in.  And as others have said... once you get everything you are interested in -- just stop asking.

[Hilt]

DrkVsr wrote:

Next year, can Santa pleas go back to only giving out one of each item, like Gifty used to do back when he was still giving out the 'Globes, can add them to the recipe books so that if you want to get extras you can craft them yourself or see if someone else has

It's one thing to get multiples of the baubles and even the cloaks, but mah characters on Butcher have 6 extra copies of the Snowman (yes, that means they got 10 total) that you can't do anything with except destroy (having the option to convert them to a plushie version like the sneak attack version on the New Halas docks would have been great)

I can't even begin to tell you how many stupid green and white football looking baubles I have received...

Either Santa Glug has !@#$%^ memory retention or he is just a evil evil man when it comes to gift giving...

[DrkVsr]

Re: Eveningsong; that's why ah suggested putting the baubles and stockings into the recipe books, that way if you want more, you can either craft your little heart out, or pay someone else to. Ah restrict mahself to just getting 17 gifts each for mah characters, and it took 17 tries before mah warden got the Snowman (and last year it took 16 goes to get the cloak)

Having the gifts as one-offs from Glug (and Gardy if he gets his act together by next Frostfell) and making the ornaments craftable should benefit everyone and annoy almost no-one (exception being the cheap and/or lazy sods who want everything just handed to them)

On one server ah've ended up with about 6 spare Snowmen that can't do a [Removed for Content] thing with except destroy, so that's 6 gifts wasted

Can anyone confirm how many unique gifts Glug was giving out? By mah count there are 13 (unless there is 1 that ah missed out of 136)

[NightGod473]

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

NightGod473 wrote:

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

#2 - It was never exacty 1 different gift item per gift rotation.  It was always Random. It's still Random.

I should know .. I have over 400 snowglobes running around but only 3 complete sets ..

What you are thinking of is probably due to the fact that the Snowglobes used to be Lore and Garby wouldn't give you the same one again if you had it on your character.  Which sometimes resulted in losing a gift as it would try to give you the random gift but it would be the Lore version so you wouldn't get anything ..

But, all they changed (other than the gift selection) was the timer for when you could received a new gift.

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours. 

It's to give those who don't log on and/or play during exactly the same time every day an opportunity to get their gifts daily, assuming they log on within or after the 18hour period. Instead of having to wait till exactly the same time the next day, which may or may not work well for most of the players.

It's not really meant for those who play the game 24 hours a day to collect multiple gifts .. that's just more of a side effect. And, can already be fixed by referring to comment #1.

That's very, very wrong. Early years you got exactly one of each on each character until you had them all, then you didn't get any more, and it had nothing to do with Lore tags. Cusa has it right.

(sorry for the delay .. I got distracted .. )

.... how did I get dozens of repeat gifts then?   Again .. I have over 400 snowglobes but only a couple complete sets. 

I figured out pretty early in the gift giving thing that if I handed over my gifts to another account or went and placed them in the house I'd still get more gifts the next day without the pesky gift poofing. Because that's what it would do if you had the gifts on your character. It would say I got a gift but I'd have nothing new in my inventory .. unless I went and dropped everything off and started fresh. 

It wouldn't just give you out gifts till you had them all it would give you them out till you had them all on your person because it was LORE.  But, you were really losing out on gifts .. well gift counts ..

Because it was the music box year, not the snowglobe year. And they didn't poof, you just got a message saying "that's all the gifts I have" or something very similar to that. No matter how much you transfered items to alts.

[Calthine]

Cusashorn wrote:

The gifts are random, yes, but there was only ONE of them randomly given out. Once you got it, you couldn't get it again. Not because they were lore, but because that item had been removed from the list of gifts left to give out.

That.

[Alenna]

Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:

... k ..

#1 - If you think you have too many free gifts from Santa Glug .. STOP ASKING HIM FOR ANOTHER!

Or at the very least cut down on how many Alts you run to him. 

It's the little commonsense things that have the biggest impacts, you know.

#2 - It was never exacty 1 different gift item per gift rotation.  It was always Random. It's still Random.

I should know .. I have over 400 snowglobes running around but only 3 complete sets ..

What you are thinking of is probably due to the fact that the Snowglobes used to be Lore and Garby wouldn't give you the same one again if you had it on your character.  Which sometimes resulted in losing a gift as it would try to give you the random gift but it would be the Lore version so you wouldn't get anything ..

But, all they changed (other than the gift selection) was the timer for when you could received a new gift.

Previously you could only get a gift 1x every 24 hours .. now it's 1x every 18 hours. 

It's to give those who don't log on and/or play during exactly the same time every day an opportunity to get their gifts daily, assuming they log on within or after the 18hour period. Instead of having to wait till exactly the same time the next day, which may or may not work well for most of the players.

It's not really meant for those who play the game 24 hours a day to collect multiple gifts .. that's just more of a side effect. And, can already be fixed by referring to comment #1.

#3 - /feedback: Please change the [Enchanted Snowman] to be Tradeable. 

As I am sure not everyone got as many as others did. 

I, personally, got 3 Santa Glug plushies to every 1 Pet gift, which is still low considering how many baubles, cloaks, stockings and bags of coals I got. At least on Live.  On Test, I was lucky to get 1 Plushie & 1 pet for each acct.

i got the multiples because I was trying to get the one gift for all my toons but before I could get say the snowman I got 3 or four cloaks so you are saying after getting the 2nd cloak I hsoudl have given up on trying ot get the snowman?

[Alenna]

Cusashorn wrote:

The gifts are random, yes, but there was only ONE of them randomly given out. Once you got it, you couldn't get it again. Not because they were lore, but because that item had been removed from the list of gifts left to give out. I remember Gardy telling me that he has no more gifts to give out because I've already recieved them all.

That's all I want to go back to. An algorithm that guarantees that a player will get one of everything that Santa Glug has to give out, and makes sure that you get them all before running into repeats or running out.

+1

[KniteShayd]

Two points: 1. There should be something to prevent you from getting duplicate gifts.

                    2.  The Baubles were creative, but a very poor idea for FF. They shoulda been added to crafter books instead.

The globes were great. The music boxes were awesome. The cloaks are lovely. The baubles, only one of my toons kept. and only certain ones.

If the gifts are being newly created for the giveaway every year (or every other year), I think we should be able to buy of the gifts we haven't received from the previous years off the Token vendor.  I don't care what the price would be for each item, or even if there was a Shady Gigglegibber selling them in the Icy Keep after you defeat D'Ina. I would just like to see people able to get what they missed if they really want them, and put in the effort to get em.

[Galldora]

DrkVsr wrote:

Re: Eveningsong; that's why ah suggested putting the baubles and stockings into the recipe books, that way if you want more, you can either craft your little heart out, or pay someone else to. Ah restrict mahself to just getting 17 gifts each for mah characters, and it took 17 tries before mah warden got the Snowman (and last year it took 16 goes to get the cloak)

Having the gifts as one-offs from Glug (and Gardy if he gets his act together by next Frostfell) and making the ornaments craftable should benefit everyone and annoy almost no-one (exception being the cheap and/or lazy sods who want everything just handed to them)

On one server ah've ended up with about 6 spare Snowmen that can't do a [Removed for Content] thing with except destroy, so that's 6 gifts wasted

Can anyone confirm how many unique gifts Glug was giving out? By mah count there are 13 (unless there is 1 that ah missed out of 136)

You could save them, in case you have new characters in the future.  I have a few snowmen scrolls on each account that I'm keeping for just such an occasion.  Makes a new alt feel so much more welcome, you know!