Coldain Butler

Carthington · 12-15-2010, 08:13 PM

If you read his dialogue carefully, its the same style of dialect used with Robin William's robot character in Bicentennial Man

Gisallo · 12-15-2010, 08:20 PM

Thank god. My fear was we were going to get "Dobby is Carthington Potters friend..." or "Kreacher can't believe he is serving a muggle..." to a warrior pc. I would have had to kill someone.

Carthington · 12-15-2010, 08:23 PM

well not all of his dialogue, but some that tipped me off was

Good morning sir. May I say Sir is looking radiant today.I shall be happy to be of service, Sir. I can accompany Sir for an hour before I shall need to return to my duties.

Those were the lines I was basically talking about...

kelvmor · 12-15-2010, 08:27 PM

Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO.

"Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?"

You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while."

Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out."

He needs a beard, too.

Morghus · 12-15-2010, 08:29 PM

kelvmor wrote:

Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO.
"Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?"
You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while."
Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out."
He needs a beard, too.

Not all Dwarves need to be stereotypical . I see nothing wrong with a dwarf speaking in a more educated manner that reflects his position.

Gungo · 12-15-2010, 08:30 PM

Carthington wrote:

well not all of his dialogue, but some that tipped me off was
Good morning sir. May I say Sir is looking radiant today.I shall be happy to be of service, Sir. I can accompany Sir for an hour before I shall need to return to my duties.
Those were the lines I was basically talking about...

Egh I think saying this is bicenntenial man is a stretch.

If he was saying "One, is glad to be of service" then maybe but Bicenntenial man main theme was he always referred to himself as ONE when he was being subservient to others.

Ryai · 12-15-2010, 08:35 PM

This item is such a disappointment.

Don't get me wrong, its an amazing item, but limiting its use to only houses and not guild halls was a poor choice.

Another item that just takes up space.

kelvmor · 12-15-2010, 08:39 PM

Morghus wrote:

kelvmor wrote:
Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO.
"Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?"
You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while."
Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out."
He needs a beard, too.
Not all Dwarves need to be stereotypical . I see nothing wrong with a dwarf speaking in a more educated manner that reflects his position.

No, not all dwarves have to be a trope dwarf, I suppose. But I wish there were an option to go from Bicentennial Man to dwarf.

DrkVsr · 12-16-2010, 01:34 AM

Claiming that a dorf talking like a dorf is because they are uneducated is very offensive. Ah figured they spoke that way the same reason the frogs speak the way they do (more of a physical/racial speach pattern than a sign of intelligence)

Morghus · 12-16-2010, 01:40 AM

DrkVsr wrote:

Claiming that a dorf talking like a dorf is because they are uneducated is very offensive. Ah figured they spoke that way the same reason the frogs speak the way they do (more of a physical/racial speach pattern than a sign of intelligence)

Should I have said 'racial speech inpediment' then? That would be a little more offensive I would think, not to mention inaccurate since not all frogs, and not all dwarves obviously speak like that. Because you know, every member of every race acts and speaks, and thinks exactly the same way.

DrkVsr · 12-16-2010, 01:53 AM

Yes, not all dorfs would speak that way (considering the coldain dorfs are a seperate species of dorf than the current version) but implying they speak that way because they are ignorant/uneducated is wrong

Thor71457 · 12-16-2010, 10:24 AM

A Dwarf is a Dwarf is a Dwarf time for some sun and fresh air I think..

Gisallo · 12-16-2010, 11:18 AM

He also talks like Alfred alla Michael Kane "why do we fall down sir? So we can pick ourselves up"...etc

Brook · 12-16-2010, 11:32 AM

The Butler is a Hoot, he does more than I was expecting..good job devs.

Rainmare · 12-16-2010, 12:05 PM

adn there are a few cases where he refers to himself as 'One'

Aurel · 12-16-2010, 01:32 PM

Gungo wrote:

If he was saying "One, is glad to be of service" then maybe but Bicenntenial man main theme was he always referred to himself as ONE when he was being subservient to others.

He actually does say that sometimes!

My problem with him (or maybe my problem with illusions?) is that he only acknowledges vampires [edit: as in the BLC vamp illusion]... I'm either "darkelf" (why no spaaace... %r gives it a space...) or "vampire"...

I want to be the most undeniably evil void residue he has ever served dangit!

Kunaak · 12-16-2010, 05:01 PM

this butler is one of the funnest little things I ever got. its the first time I actually liked the "pet". I dragged this thing around with me all day yesterday.

now... I want a french maid.

doesnt even have to be ingame - just send one to my house.

kelvmor · 12-16-2010, 06:49 PM

I still want it to have a beard.

Zabjade · 12-16-2010, 07:09 PM

I have to say I did like the Butler probably wont use it for my "poor" paladin (although as a woodworker he has already cleared a lot of plat) who still lives in a two room...(it would be like an elevator in a outhouse [Roadhouse Ref] it wouldn't belong). I would like for when he acompanies me to at least inform me when he has to go back and finish the chores. SMILEY

Also some of the Dialouge I would love to have more then one answer to choose from, woud also like know the name of those in my employ (option to name?).

All and all a Nice item!

Now, waiting for Teir'Dal Upstairs maid, Halfling(good)/Troll(evil) cook (or swap the G&E)

Zabjade · 12-16-2010, 07:15 PM

kelvmor wrote:

I still want it to have a beard.

I have no problem with a beard, although I think the Velium in their System makes that rarity if you look around New Halas. Perhaps a close cropped neatly trimmed beard would be possible?

Perhaps a Van Dike(actualy spelt with a Y but the censor freaks at it) or a Fraz-Josef

Dreadpatch · 12-16-2010, 07:28 PM

HK47 dialogue would be better in my opinion Meatbags.

Lothlo · 12-16-2010, 11:12 PM

Has anyone been in a group with a bunch of these butlers yet or even a raid? I haven't but I can see some potential problems.

While I was out with my butler in tow, I thought that I would dismiss him early so he could get back to cleaning my apartment ... but I couldn't find an option to dismiss him. I was unable to find an pet icon in either of the spell windows. Has anyone else been able to dismiss him early? The butler totally needs a dismiss option.

Lady_Gaga · 12-16-2010, 11:14 PM

kelvmor wrote:

Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO.
"Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?"
You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while."
Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out."
He needs a beard, too.

SO in all that dialog....what is he saying?! "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." HAHA

Rainmare · 12-17-2010, 04:41 AM

I hailed him several times in my house and I loved some of his comments. like asking why all my friends insist on wearing platemail and carrying weapons becuase it scuffs the floors...saying that me disappearing for long times and coming back with strange injuries makes him wonder what I do for a living...that he just cleaned the floors and I should try not to drop my weapons on it.. lots of funny little sayings.

Stormflint · 12-21-2010, 10:28 PM

How do you get him to stop following outside the house?

DrkVsr · 12-21-2010, 10:30 PM

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:

How do you get him to stop following outside the house?

Nail his feet to the floor

Solarax · 12-23-2010, 05:15 AM

ya know i was skeptical at first but once he starting toadying to me i really liked this item . especially since its not in the lines with harry potterish speech.

12-15-2010, 08:13 PM	#1
Carthington Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 88	If you read his dialogue carefully, its the same style of dialect used with Robin William's robot character in Bicentennial Man __________________ Carthington Severing

12-15-2010, 08:20 PM	#2
Gisallo Server: Lucan DLere Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,910	Thank god. My fear was we were going to get "Dobby is Carthington Potters friend..." or "Kreacher can't believe he is serving a muggle..." to a warrior pc. I would have had to kill someone. __________________

12-15-2010, 08:23 PM	#3
Carthington Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 88	well not all of his dialogue, but some that tipped me off was Good morning sir. May I say Sir is looking radiant today.I shall be happy to be of service, Sir. I can accompany Sir for an hour before I shall need to return to my duties. Those were the lines I was basically talking about... __________________ Carthington Severing

12-15-2010, 08:29 PM	#5
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	kelvmor wrote: Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO. "Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?" You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while." Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." He needs a beard, too. Not all Dwarves need to be stereotypical . I see nothing wrong with a dwarf speaking in a more educated manner that reflects his position.

12-15-2010, 08:30 PM	#6
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	Carthington wrote: well not all of his dialogue, but some that tipped me off was Good morning sir. May I say Sir is looking radiant today.I shall be happy to be of service, Sir. I can accompany Sir for an hour before I shall need to return to my duties. Those were the lines I was basically talking about... Egh I think saying this is bicenntenial man is a stretch. If he was saying "One, is glad to be of service" then maybe but Bicenntenial man main theme was he always referred to himself as ONE when he was being subservient to others.

12-15-2010, 08:27 PM	#4
kelvmor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,036	Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO. "Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?" You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while." Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." He needs a beard, too.

12-15-2010, 08:35 PM	#7
Ryai Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Paper Tigers Rank: Kun (Alts) Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 314	This item is such a disappointment. Don't get me wrong, its an amazing item, but limiting its use to only houses and not guild halls was a poor choice. Another item that just takes up space.

12-15-2010, 08:39 PM	#8
kelvmor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,036	Morghus wrote: kelvmor wrote: Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO. "Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?" You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while." Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." He needs a beard, too. Not all Dwarves need to be stereotypical . I see nothing wrong with a dwarf speaking in a more educated manner that reflects his position. No, not all dwarves have to be a trope dwarf, I suppose. But I wish there were an option to go from Bicentennial Man to dwarf.

12-16-2010, 01:34 AM	#9
DrkVsr Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of the Short Brown Kiwi Posts: 2,041	Claiming that a dorf talking like a dorf is because they are uneducated is very offensive. Ah figured they spoke that way the same reason the frogs speak the way they do (more of a physical/racial speach pattern than a sign of intelligence) __________________ V`Wak N`Ron: Teir`Dassin of the 56th Order, Gods of Najena Htaed Ybdehcuotnu: Gnecro of the 40th Order, Gods of Najena Phoendi Phyres: Eru-Din of the 28th Order, Gods of Najena Kilitty: Kemplar of the 30th Order, Gods of Najena Zabisuto Zyhopic: Guktassin of 27th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Tralgarth: Trollsionist of the 28th Order, SoG on Butcherblock {2nd on Server} Blacqphlag Killzphast: Arserker of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Hwalgren N`Gareen: Faeden of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Reynes: Wooden Mule of the 7th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock You can kill me, but you will not stop me Ah can be killed, but ah will not die!

12-16-2010, 01:40 AM	#10
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	DrkVsr wrote: Claiming that a dorf talking like a dorf is because they are uneducated is very offensive. Ah figured they spoke that way the same reason the frogs speak the way they do (more of a physical/racial speach pattern than a sign of intelligence) Should I have said 'racial speech inpediment' then? That would be a little more offensive I would think, not to mention inaccurate since not all frogs, and not all dwarves obviously speak like that. Because you know, every member of every race acts and speaks, and thinks exactly the same way.

12-16-2010, 01:53 AM	#11
DrkVsr Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of the Short Brown Kiwi Posts: 2,041	Yes, not all dorfs would speak that way (considering the coldain dorfs are a seperate species of dorf than the current version) but implying they speak that way because they are ignorant/uneducated is wrong __________________ V`Wak N`Ron: Teir`Dassin of the 56th Order, Gods of Najena Htaed Ybdehcuotnu: Gnecro of the 40th Order, Gods of Najena Phoendi Phyres: Eru-Din of the 28th Order, Gods of Najena Kilitty: Kemplar of the 30th Order, Gods of Najena Zabisuto Zyhopic: Guktassin of 27th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Tralgarth: Trollsionist of the 28th Order, SoG on Butcherblock {2nd on Server} Blacqphlag Killzphast: Arserker of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Hwalgren N`Gareen: Faeden of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Reynes: Wooden Mule of the 7th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock You can kill me, but you will not stop me Ah can be killed, but ah will not die!

12-16-2010, 10:24 AM	#12
Thor71457 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 151	A Dwarf is a Dwarf is a Dwarf time for some sun and fresh air I think.. __________________

12-16-2010, 11:18 AM	#13
Gisallo Server: Lucan DLere Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,910	He also talks like Alfred alla Michael Kane "why do we fall down sir? So we can pick ourselves up"...etc __________________

12-16-2010, 11:32 AM	#14
Brook Tester Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336	The Butler is a Hoot, he does more than I was expecting..good job devs. __________________ But seriously, you're the kind of guy that zones into gears without a healer and spends the whole match talking about the fact there isn't a healer instead of contributing. I hate you, and everyone like you that plays this game. Please spend less time whining and more time winning, it contributes to the general growth of the game and makes gameplay more enjoyable for all.

12-16-2010, 12:05 PM	#15
Rainmare Server: Oasis Guild: Pillage Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,982	adn there are a few cases where he refers to himself as 'One'

12-16-2010, 01:32 PM	#16
Aurel Book Goddess Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 669	Gungo wrote: If he was saying "One, is glad to be of service" then maybe but Bicenntenial man main theme was he always referred to himself as ONE when he was being subservient to others. He actually does say that sometimes! My problem with him (or maybe my problem with illusions?) is that he only acknowledges vampires [edit: as in the BLC vamp illusion]... I'm either "darkelf" (why no spaaace... %r gives it a space...) or "vampire"... I want to be the most undeniably evil void residue he has ever served dangit! __________________

12-16-2010, 05:01 PM	#17
Kunaak Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,081	this butler is one of the funnest little things I ever got. its the first time I actually liked the "pet". I dragged this thing around with me all day yesterday. now... I want a french maid. doesnt even have to be ingame - just send one to my house.

12-16-2010, 06:49 PM	#18
kelvmor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,036	I still want it to have a beard.

12-16-2010, 07:09 PM	#19
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	I have to say I did like the Butler probably wont use it for my "poor" paladin (although as a woodworker he has already cleared a lot of plat) who still lives in a two room...(it would be like an elevator in a outhouse [Roadhouse Ref] it wouldn't belong). I would like for when he acompanies me to at least inform me when he has to go back and finish the chores. Also some of the Dialouge I would love to have more then one answer to choose from, woud also like know the name of those in my employ (option to name?). All and all a Nice item! Now, waiting for Teir'Dal Upstairs maid, Halfling(good)/Troll(evil) cook (or swap the G&E) __________________

12-16-2010, 07:15 PM	#20
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	kelvmor wrote: I still want it to have a beard. I have no problem with a beard, although I think the Velium in their System makes that rarity if you look around New Halas. Perhaps a close cropped neatly trimmed beard would be possible? Perhaps a Van Dike(actualy spelt with a Y but the censor freaks at it) or a Fraz-Josef __________________

12-16-2010, 07:28 PM	#21
Dreadpatch Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 575	HK47 dialogue would be better in my opinion Meatbags. __________________ Elusion 90 Coercer 250 AA Alendril 90 Troubador 250 AA Ribatio 90 Mystic 242 AA Dreadpatch 90 Swashbuckler 171 AA Delanar 70 Guardian Blackghost 39 (BG) Assassin

12-16-2010, 11:12 PM	#22
Lothlo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Has anyone been in a group with a bunch of these butlers yet or even a raid? I haven't but I can see some potential problems. While I was out with my butler in tow, I thought that I would dismiss him early so he could get back to cleaning my apartment ... but I couldn't find an option to dismiss him. I was unable to find an pet icon in either of the spell windows. Has anyone else been able to dismiss him early? The butler totally needs a dismiss option.

12-16-2010, 11:14 PM	#23
Lady_Gaga Augur Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Mistmoore Posts: 5	kelvmor wrote: Should speak more like a dwarf, IMO. "Hail t' ye, sir. Ye needin' me t' run some errands fer ye? Get me an' ye an ale?" You say, "I need you to come with me for a little while." Grunor (Coldain butler) says to you, "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." He needs a beard, too. SO in all that dialog....what is he saying?! "Aye, but I'll only be out fer a while 'fore I need t' come back an' get an ale an' punch that durn 'tonga ye got livin' under yer stairs out." HAHA

12-17-2010, 04:41 AM	#24
Rainmare Server: Oasis Guild: Pillage Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,982	I hailed him several times in my house and I loved some of his comments. like asking why all my friends insist on wearing platemail and carrying weapons becuase it scuffs the floors...saying that me disappearing for long times and coming back with strange injuries makes him wonder what I do for a living...that he just cleaned the floors and I should try not to drop my weapons on it.. lots of funny little sayings.

12-21-2010, 10:28 PM	#25
Stormflint Server: Mistmoore Guild: Scions of Swig Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 181	How do you get him to stop following outside the house?

12-21-2010, 10:30 PM	#26
DrkVsr Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of the Short Brown Kiwi Posts: 2,041	Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: How do you get him to stop following outside the house? Nail his feet to the floor __________________ V`Wak N`Ron: Teir`Dassin of the 56th Order, Gods of Najena Htaed Ybdehcuotnu: Gnecro of the 40th Order, Gods of Najena Phoendi Phyres: Eru-Din of the 28th Order, Gods of Najena Kilitty: Kemplar of the 30th Order, Gods of Najena Zabisuto Zyhopic: Guktassin of 27th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Tralgarth: Trollsionist of the 28th Order, SoG on Butcherblock {2nd on Server} Blacqphlag Killzphast: Arserker of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Hwalgren N`Gareen: Faeden of the 20th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock Reynes: Wooden Mule of the 7th Order, Spirits of Glencoe on Butcherblock You can kill me, but you will not stop me Ah can be killed, but ah will not die!

12-23-2010, 05:15 AM	#27
Solarax Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 487	ya know i was skeptical at first but once he starting toadying to me i really liked this item . especially since its not in the lines with harry potterish speech.