Server Mergers - Announced by Email

[Kordran]

Absynthe@Nektulos wrote:

Banerm wrote:

I implore the team to reconsider the mergers till either the first of December or preferably first quarter of 2011. Many kids will be having winter break, not to mention college break and also vacation time being spent. It would not only be bad for business but also think of your own employees.

+1 to this

Right, because merging the servers around the same time they release the Velious expansion makes so much sense. The only practical options are doing it now, or waiting until after the expansion. And I don't think there's many players here who would appreciate being told they need to wait another 6 months for the population issues to be addressed.

And all of this talk about the server names? Really? From people like you wanting every server to be renamed, to those stomping their feet over the fact that they won't get a "legacy" title for their server if they're being merged into. Please. This isn't Hello Kitty Online, get over it.

[NightGod473]

Caliga@Befallen wrote:

Actually in BG you'll be know as Server.Name. So I spend a great amount of time looking at my lovely server name. And while I will miss it, I'm so glad we aren't merging into Guk, who wants to be called Guk.Name?

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This server was chosen because it was the closest alphabetically to my EQ1 server (a bunch of us got together on the server forums and decided on that method of picking the server). Been my home in EQ2 since day one, I'd actually be a little upset losing the name if it ever happened. I'm hoping the fact that it's a day one server means that won't happen anytime soon...

[Cyliena]

Any confirmation yet on whether or not the Blackburrow -> Everfrost merge will for certain be tomorrow, as well as a time frame? Hitting evening now for us east coasters so hoping to find out soon.

[Tigress]

PlaneCrazy wrote:

The timing of these merges is fairly restrictive.  First, they have to have the merges done before Velious is launched in Feb'11.  Second, the whole team is going to be super busy during the months leading up to the Xpac launch, so they are doing the server merges now.  It makes sense.  Get them done before Xmas... then it's crunch time preparing the Xpac.

As for the suggestion to rename the servers.... sounds to me like some people have the attitude that if they can't keep their server names, then no one should.  Very petty and selfish, IMO.  And yes... that's my OPINION.   Personally, I feel if they wanted to rename the servers, I wouldn't cry over it.

your assumption is wrong.  my server is everfrost and my server name remains the same.  i'd love for it to reflect a merge of two servers (blackfrost).

[Rothgar]

Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:

Any confirmation yet on whether or not the Blackburrow -> Everfrost merge will for certain be tomorrow, as well as a time frame? Hitting evening now for us east coasters so hoping to find out soon.

We're doing another QA pass on the merge process tonight, after making some additional changes to the procedure.  If all goes well, we would most likely start the first merge early Thursday morning.

[Dorryan]

Tigress wrote:

PlaneCrazy wrote:

  i'd love for it to reflect a merge of two servers (blackfrost).

so you would have my wife and I be on Beasis or Ofallen?

one sounds like an auto-tuned faux-punk band, and the other sounds Irish, lol.

merge the other names if you want (Blackfrost does sound cool) and make ours Steamfont maybe? /beg

I know, wish in one hand and defacate in the other, and all that.

[Cyliena]

Rothgar wrote:

Cyliena@Everfrost wrote:

Any confirmation yet on whether or not the Blackburrow -> Everfrost merge will for certain be tomorrow, as well as a time frame? Hitting evening now for us east coasters so hoping to find out soon.

We're doing another QA pass on the merge process tonight, after making some additional changes to the procedure.  If all goes well, we would most likely start the first merge early Thursday morning.

Ah ok, so the 18th now? Will keep an eye out for any more on it, thanks for the update Rothgar.

[Sinaya]

Did Oasis and Befallen suddenly start with no notice around 1:40 am PST on Wednesday, 11/17? A bunch of servers just went down and I don't remember seeing any announcement or getting any broadcasts.

The following servers are currently unavailable:

• Befallen(is currently locked)
• Crushbone
• Mistmoore
• Oasis(is currently locked)
• Runnyeye

[Alvane]

Sinaya@Oasis wrote:

Did Oasis and Befallen suddenly start with no notice around 1:40 am PST on Wednesday, 11/17? A bunch of servers just went down and I don't remember seeing any announcement or getting any broadcasts.

The following servers are currently unavailable:

• Befallen(is currently locked)
• Crushbone
• Mistmoore
• Oasis(is currently locked)
• Runnyeye

Probably something else considering Crushbone isn't merging. And the Blackburrow/Everfrost merger starts tomorrow.

[-=Hoss=-]

so is this the official thread for updates on the mergers?  I swear a red name said earlier that it was moved to an official announcement, but I saw no link and couldn't find the thread. 

[Cyliena]

-=Hoss=- wrote:

so is this the official thread for updates on the mergers?  I swear a red name said earlier that it was moved to an official announcement, but I saw no link and couldn't find the thread. 

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=490562 is the thread on the announcements board (that unlocked character slots thread keeps making it look like there's nothing new from a glance for that forum though), but it hasn't been updated to say 11/18 still.

[MadGiggler]

is there any schedule for the other servers?

[Cyliena]

MadGiggler wrote:

is there any schedule for the other servers?

Nope, nor will there be one. Amnerys posted on page 28:

Amnerys wrote:

Red name checking in! When I have some solid info to share, I'll be running to my PC to do so. Please hang tight in the meantime. I know we're all eager to find out the plan. (And for those who watched BSG, no...not that plan.)

I can definitely tell you that we're not going to be announcing a full schedule ahead of time. As I believe Smokejumper said before, we'll be doing them one merge at a time, and we'll give notice for each as soon as we're able to. In an ideal world, we'd love to be able to give a full schedule, but you guys know how tricky these computer things are; soon as we made the announcement, something would inevitably cause the whole schedule to shift, and someone wouldn't see notice of the shift, and then we'd mess up an uber raid and people would be mad at me...and I don't want any of that to happen.

[Monotone]

They could at least tell us in what order they will be doing the merges....Dont need an exact date just tell us what order you plan on it...then people can at least have somewhat of an idea.

[Tigress]

Dorryan wrote:

Tigress wrote:

PlaneCrazy wrote:

  i'd love for it to reflect a merge of two servers (blackfrost).

so you would have my wife and I be on Beasis or Ofallen?

one sounds like an auto-tuned faux-punk band, and the other sounds Irish, lol.

merge the other names if you want (Blackfrost does sound cool) and make ours Steamfont maybe? /beg

I know, wish in one hand and defacate in the other, and all that.

oh my, lol.  those names would be terrible!

i doubt that they will rename them but it would be cool.

[Amnerys]

Monotone@Guk wrote:

They could at least tell us in what order they will be doing the merges....Dont need an exact date just tell us what order you plan on it...then people can at least have somewhat of an idea.

I believe the reason we're not announcing that is because that order is not set in stone. It could possibly change along the way, so annoucing it in advance and then changing would only cause more confusion.

[Cyliena]

Amnerys wrote:

Monotone@Guk wrote:

They could at least tell us in what order they will be doing the merges....Dont need an exact date just tell us what order you plan on it...then people can at least have somewhat of an idea.

I believe the reason we're not announcing that is because that order is not set in stone. It could possibly change along the way, so annoucing it in advance and then changing would only cause more confusion.

Speaking of... /nag on... is there an actual time for Blackburrow and Everfrost yet? I've seen a lot of concern from people on 1-9 chat today wondering what the heck is going on. /nag off

[Alvane]

Dorryan wrote:

Tigress wrote:

PlaneCrazy wrote:

  i'd love for it to reflect a merge of two servers (blackfrost).

so you would have my wife and I be on Beasis or Ofallen?

one sounds like an auto-tuned faux-punk band, and the other sounds Irish, lol.

merge the other names if you want (Blackfrost does sound cool) and make ours Steamfont maybe? /beg

I know, wish in one hand and defacate in the other, and all that.

Between everfrost and blackburrow, some might prefer everblack!

Befallen and Oasis? Hmmm... Fallasis or beasis or Oallen

Hmmm... this can be fun...

Mistmoore & Permafrost: Mistfrost, Permoore, Frostmist, Frostmoore

any more?

[Umigo]

Hopefully the merge will start tommorow (thursday), Friday is when the server is most active. If things do not go smooth(lol), there will be a lot of overtime work for SONY on the weekend. 

Personaly i would like the server name for blackburrow and everfrost to go back to Oggok where i started 6 years ago before the last merger.

[Enica]

Alvane@Unrest wrote:

Dorryan wrote:

Tigress wrote:

PlaneCrazy wrote:

  i'd love for it to reflect a merge of two servers (blackfrost).

so you would have my wife and I be on Beasis or Ofallen?

one sounds like an auto-tuned faux-punk band, and the other sounds Irish, lol.

merge the other names if you want (Blackfrost does sound cool) and make ours Steamfont maybe? /beg

I know, wish in one hand and defacate in the other, and all that.

Between everfrost and blackburrow, some might prefer everblack!

Befallen and Oasis? Hmmm... Fallasis or beasis or Oallen

Hmmm... this can be fun...

Mistmoore & Permafrost: Mistfrost, Permoore, Frostmist, Frostmoore

any more?

Permamist.

[Kordran]

I haven't seen anymore redname posts, but if they're not doing the merge tomorrow morning, I'm hoping they're holding off until next week. The last thing Everfrost or Blackburrow needs is a borked merge with no technical support and canceled raids for the weekend. And if they can't get it right on Monday, they shouldn't do it at all next week either with Thanksgiving holiday.

I'm looking forward to meeting our new Blackburrow friends, but if they're not ready to do this, they're not ready. Frequent updates every day on where they are in this process would be nice, but that's not really SOE's modus operandi and we all know that.

Edit: Punctuation is not my friend.

[Cyliena]

Arandar@Everfrost wrote:

I haven't seen anymore redname posts, but if they're not doing the merge tomorrow morning, I'm hoping they're holding off until next week. The last thing Everfrost or Blackburrow needs is a borked merge with no technical support and canceled raids for the weekend. And if they can't get it right on Monday, they shouldn't do it at all next week either with Thanksgiving holiday.

I'm looking forward to meeting our new Blackburrow friends, but if they're not ready to do this, they're not ready. Frequent updates every day on where they are in this process would be nice, but that's not really SOE's modus operandi and we all know that.

Edit: Punctuation is not my friend.

Amnerys posted a bit ago on the thread in the announcements forum: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=490562

No idea if that means whether or not it's tomorrow. If it's not, then I hope it's not Friday.. that's when the Heroes' Festival starts! Too tired to stay awake any longer so hope to see something about this in the morning...

[Hateeternal]

Hi there, I hope it hasn't been asked earlier in the thread because I admit, I didn't read it all as there were about 30 pages...

But, I am very confused about the whole "housekeeper-item-owning-trustee-list" -thing and hoping someone can create some clarity here.

I checked the FAQ on Zam but it is very contradictory, compared to the things that were said on the official forums, in the customer E-Mail and also it is inside itself.

First part states that you will have to collect every item from every single house or guildhall, that you want to not change ownership to the owner of that house/hall.

Player Homes

• All items in characters' homes will be inherited by the home's owner during the merge. If you have alts that own any items, have designated any trustees to your character's home or if you are a trustee in another character's home, please arrange for the appropriate owner to retrieve its items before the server merge begins.
• After the merge any vendor (like Salesman Crates) items in your transferred character's house will need to be re-placed in your character's new home.
• You can use the house vault of the character which is being transferred for storage. The items in your transferred character's house vault will remain associated with that character during the server merge.
• Despite the statement below under Sales Containers, Smokejumper posted: "After the merge, your house and guild items will be right where you left them. No packing/unpacking or saving of layouts needed."

But below this, there is posted a Q&A that says the exact opposite:

Server Merger Q&A

This Q&A was sent to SOE and published November 8, 2010.

ZAM: Houses and guild halls seem to be the biggest concern with multiple questions posted. The following are all housing and guild hall questions.

• ZAM: 1. Will both houses and guild halls be treated the same (ie: access lists, item ownership, etc) with the merges?
• SOE: Yes. All will remain intact.

• ZAM: 2. Will both the merging server (ex: Blackburrow) and the home server (ex: Everfrost) be subject to item ownership changes, or will only the merging server have this concern?
• SOE: No item ownership changes will occur this time around.

• ZAM: 3. Will both houses and guild halls be subject to having ownership removed from items, or is this limited to houses only?
• SOE: Same question. Nope.

• ZAM: 4. If guild halls are affected as well to the item ownership reset, will the new owner be the person who purchased the hall? If that person no longer is part of the guild, who will be the owner?
• SOE: Still no.

• ZAM: 5. If multiple lore items that were placed by alts suddenly become owned by the home owner will duplicates be deleted, or will the home owner simply be unable to pick up more than one at a time?
• SOE: Not going to happen. See above. (Same as #2, 3, 4)

• ZAM: 6. How will house and guild hall access lists be affected? If a character on the access list receives an "x" on their name due to the merge, will the list update to reflect that?
• SOE: Same as #1. No changes will occur and everything will remain intact.

• ZAM: 7. Will homes retain any crafted item count and vault expanders used, as well as the Marketplace item expanders, or will those items need to be re-purchased after the merge?
• SOE: No change will occur. No reason to repurchase or reuse.

• ZAM: 8. We know that it was stated that vendor crates will need replaced after the merge. However, will items need to be removed from the vendor crates first? Should the vendor crates be manually picked up by the player first?
• SOE: No. They can just replace them. No need for any pre-merge scrambling.

• ZAM: 9. If an item placed in a home or guild hall is owned by a deleted character, will the item be deleted or will ownership still transfer to the owner of the house and/or hall?
• SOE: No change. Everything will stay the same as before the merge.

• ZAM: 10. Will houses and/or guild halls affected by the merge have to re-place all of their items after the merge? Dave Georgeson addressed this on the forums, but his answer conflicts with the official email.
• SOE: As I stated previously, no, you won’t have to do diddly-squat.

Which information is now correct and which is not?

Do we have to collect every single item from all around Norrath on all of our characters (which seems nearly impossible as I think I never ever can remember where I put what from who and so on...) that we do not want to be changed?

Or can we simply let everything be as it is?

I really don't want to lose ownership of some specific items to - for instance - our guild leader or so.

But I also don't want to have to do a plenty of detail-work, even though this is not really neccessary...

Would be very nice if anyone could just verify what is wrong and what is fact.

Thank you very much

[DrkVsr]

Was really hoping for NO-TRADE items to become the property of the house owner, long time ago a nice person (totally forget who they were now ) created 4 alts and gave mah characters each one of the monkeys, naturally their alts were deleted right after placing the monkeys but it would have been nice to be the official owners finally, but oh well, as long as the little poop-flingers remain ah will be happy (no real worries about opening the houses up and finding it full of poop as ah don't feed the primates anyway so they produce no poop to fling )

[Whilhelmina]

Hateeternal wrote:

I really don't want to lose ownership of some specific items to - for instance - our guild leader or so.

But I also don't want to have to do a plenty of detail-work, even though this is not really neccessary...

Would be very nice if anyone could just verify what is wrong and what is fact.

Thank you very much

It would be nice to get some actual info from a red name, but just to be on the safe side, I'll suggest you to gather the items you own and want to retain property on. Save a house layout first if they're part of an overall patern.

And if you have chars on both servers, pick up one of your shared bank on a char too, if you don't want it to show as overflow!

[Kordran]

What would be nice would be to get some actual information from someone who knows what they're doing with the merge. Messages about posting more information when they get it, and then not following that up with anything that's useful is ... well, not useful. Nothing has been posted since Tuesday as to what's really going on; obviously it's been delayed again (surprise, surprise) but are they really going to try and do this merge on a Friday? What's the new target date? Giving your customers a heads up, even if it's just a day, would be a good idea.

[HBP]

The last server mergers happened in 2006 right before KoS was released and  it was a lot more organized than it is now.  Ah, the good ol days

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=267105

[Asif]

Arandar@Everfrost wrote:

I haven't seen anymore redname posts, but if they're not doing the merge tomorrow morning, I'm hoping they're holding off until next week. The last thing Everfrost or Blackburrow needs is a borked merge with no technical support and canceled raids for the weekend. And if they can't get it right on Monday, they shouldn't do it at all next week either with Thanksgiving holiday.

I'm looking forward to meeting our new Blackburrow friends, but if they're not ready to do this, they're not ready. Frequent updates every day on where they are in this process would be nice, but that's not really SOE's modus operandi and we all know that.

Edit: Punctuation is not my friend.

This ^^^  just do it but dont to it on a friday as who will know what can happen to our server on a weekend.

[Monotone]

HBP wrote:

The last server mergers happened in 2006 right before KoS was released and  it was a lot more organized than it is now.  Ah, the good ol days

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=267105

Wrong...The last server merge was October 2009 when Venekor merged into Nagafen

[Firecracker]

I have to admit that on ZAM the answers given were not all that great. I couldn't tell if the questions were referring to the home server or the server being merged into it.

I have to question weather true ownership won't happen on items in people houses once the character gets merged for when I transferred off a server onto another the items in my house became mine so what will stop this from happening? Guild Halls may work like that as well, but may not either for guild halls should generally be own by all the people in the guild......so no change on items in a hall, unless items in it belong to a character no longer in the guild then maybe true ownership be reverted to the original buyer or leader of the Hall? Heirloom items are another thing all together for some are flagged with your acct so I am not sure if ownership will changed on them so LoN items maybe won't change ownership?

My feeling on this is 'NO-Trade' items will change ownership if placed in another character's house and 'Heirloom' items I am not sure but think they won't change if it's been flagged with your account so house items unless it's LoN or SC item may change ownership so for example the faction furniture in the game may change ownership.

As 'to around the 16th' then it should happen today for tomorrow is not around the 16th anymore for when you say around a certain day then it should be 3 days before or 3 days after if you ask me. Just do it and see what happens..if fails then you guys can fix it right?