Spell/Combat Art FX Revamp Feedback Thread - Page 12

Morlinde · 08-30-2010, 09:17 PM

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

Castonu wrote:
Can you please remove the Horn sound from Clara's for dirges. It is the most used debuff for every dirge and the horn sound that it makes is terribly annoying. This debuff is cast on every pull and mob in the game...please, please remove the horn sound. And while you are looking at this problem...tone down the excruciating loud combat sounds when some of these spells are cast or wearing off these mobs for dirges.
Please please please!

I would also like to add my voice to this request as I find the horn sound very intrusive and distracting. It would be wonderful if it could be removed, or at the very least toned down.

Thank you!

Ciara52 · 08-30-2010, 11:11 PM

isest wrote:

I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.

I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not SMILEY Here I thought you had made my day

isest · 08-30-2010, 11:37 PM

Ciara52 wrote:

isest wrote:
I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.
I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day

Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him

Prymevil · 08-30-2010, 11:43 PM

I really hate to be negative, but the new spell effects are awful. They don't look like natural effects in the world of Norrath, they look like animated comic strip art which does not fit this game or it's players. The spell effects in EQ2 were some of the best anywhere, but are forgettable now. This is not a minor issue, either. Some of the spell effects from EQ1 are better than EQ2 now, and that is a shame.

I don't know why the much loved spell effects were changed to begin with, I can only assume it has something to do with thinking new players would prefer them, but I assure you that is not the case. If we cannot have an option to choose the old or new effects, please put the old effects back. I believe I am the only person in my guild posting here, but I assure you, NO ONE is happy. I cannot think of a single new effect on any of my toons I would trade the old effects for.

Lera · 08-31-2010, 01:09 AM

I'd love to have an option to have the old spell effects back, but please at least put back the effect (and the player animation) for the paladin spell Consecrate. The others I guess I'll get used to, but I really want Consecrate back.

Cusashorn · 08-31-2010, 01:38 AM

I still want to know why green skulls are eminating from me when I cast my heal spell.

EXPLAIN, SONY! EXPLAIN!

Masako · 08-31-2010, 02:31 AM

Lera@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I'd love to have an option to have the old spell effects back, but please at least put back the effect (and the player animation) for the paladin spell Consecrate. The others I guess I'll get used to, but I really want Consecrate back.

This! I can't believe that I forgot to mention this before. This new Consecrate just doesn't feel right at all. I really am missing the old "Pally Dance" and blue flame-like animation that came with the old Consecrate. This new one is just... not right.

Kabahl · 08-31-2010, 04:15 AM

Wizard: Shackle (any level)

Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer.

Azol · 08-31-2010, 04:22 AM

Charn@Guk wrote:

Wizard: Shackle (any level)
Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer.

+1

Jaremai · 08-31-2010, 07:09 AM

Charn@Guk wrote:

What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game.

But.. but.. they can't maintain two sets of spell effects at the same time. You're obviously seeing things.

Whilhelmina · 08-31-2010, 08:52 AM

All those new spells, except some random one for rangers, are plain hideous. COULDWE GET A SWITCH PLEASE !

isest · 08-31-2010, 09:11 AM

What they should do is a total Rollback!!

Then take a long look at whats been said. Give us a way to turn them on and off with a toggle switch. That way the folks that don't want the spell effects can turn them off. Those of us who love them can leave them on.

Also that excuse we wanted folks to know who is using master spells and increase the visual spell effects via tier level. I have to say I can not tell the difference between the spell tier levels, so if that is what they were trying to do they missed the mark all together.

And for those who say its helped frame rate. I been looking at that too. At best I got 3-4 more frames per second with the new spells. In raid zones I still get the 25-30 frame rate I have always seen. So if were trying to help lag we missed the mark there as well.

I think the dev's should take a look at all this feedback, and gosh knows there is enough of it and realize, what they were attempting to do did not work as intended. Nor did it have the effect of making their paying customer happy campers.

Alenna · 08-31-2010, 11:36 AM

Charn@Guk wrote:

Wizard: Shackle (any level)
Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer.

+1

Morlinde · 08-31-2010, 01:34 PM

isest wrote:

Ciara52 wrote:
isest wrote:
I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.
I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day
Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him

I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate.

Jrral · 08-31-2010, 02:32 PM

Morlinde wrote:

Pheep@Unrest wrote:
Castonu wrote:
Can you please remove the Horn sound from Clara's for dirges. It is the most used debuff for every dirge and the horn sound that it makes is terribly annoying. This debuff is cast on every pull and mob in the game...please, please remove the horn sound. And while you are looking at this problem...tone down the excruciating loud combat sounds when some of these spells are cast or wearing off these mobs for dirges.
Please please please!
I would also like to add my voice to this request as I find the horn sound very intrusive and distracting. It would be wonderful if it could be removed, or at the very least toned down.
Thank you!

I'll add my vote to this. As a tank I find that horn distracting, disconcerting and not at all what I expect to hear from a bard. It sounds more like something a fighter'd sound rallying the raid.

I think what it comes down to is that as the tank I used to be able to tell just by sounds when some of the major debuffs/buffs/procs were fired off, which was good because I already have enough things competing for eyeball bandwidth. A lot of the new sound effects just don't do as good a job of cuing me in to what's going off as the old ones did. It's not just that they're different, it's that they're not as distinctive and/or not as readily audible as the old ones.

Jaffa Tamarin · 08-31-2010, 03:14 PM

I like the new graphic for the defiler's warding pet. Much better than that silly pyramid.

Felinu · 08-31-2010, 07:49 PM

Morlinde wrote:

isest wrote:
Ciara52 wrote:
isest wrote:
I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.
I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day
Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him
I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate.

The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list.

Morlinde · 08-31-2010, 08:12 PM

Felinu wrote:

Morlinde wrote:
isest wrote:
Ciara52 wrote:
isest wrote:
I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.
I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day
Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him
I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate.
The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list.

Oooooh! Thank you for the clarification, that does explain things. Next time I log in I'll check which buff it is that's giving me the blue notes.

I hope the decision isn't made to eliminate the notes altogether... That would be quite sad.

denmom · 08-31-2010, 08:49 PM

The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those.

Ciara52 · 08-31-2010, 10:13 PM

Felinu wrote:

Morlinde wrote:
isest wrote:
Ciara52 wrote:
isest wrote:
I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her.
My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge.
I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day
Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him
I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate.
The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list.

Well at least for a bit there will be notes. I suppose they will ruin that too. It seems the "lets wreck all the graphics is the new game" SMILEY

isest · 08-31-2010, 11:33 PM

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those.

Well us trouby's get Don't kill the messenger crit chance by 12.5, its the same aa line as Don't shoot the messenger. However i guess it don't give us the blue notes like the dirge does. I know that the one that was in my screen shot has the Don't shoot the messenger, asked him to turn it off and boom not blue notes.

So for some reason I guess the trouby one never had the blue notes.

I just hope that they decide to leave the AA stuff alone, its going to be hard enough to roll back what we have, and I sure don't want them messing anything else up, as right now its bad enough. As far as I am concerned they done enough to suck the fun out of the game, and make it less apealing.

Elwin · 08-31-2010, 11:46 PM

isest wrote:

Pheep@Unrest wrote:
The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those.
Well us trouby's get Don't kill the messenger crit chance by 12.5, its the same aa line as Don't shoot the messenger. However i guess it don't give us the blue notes like the dirge does. I know that the one that was in my screen shot has the Don't shoot the messenger, asked him to turn it off and boom not blue notes.
So for some reason I guess the trouby one never had the blue notes.
I just hope that they decide to leave the AA stuff alone, its going to be hard enough to roll back what we have, and I sure don't want them messing anything else up, as right now its bad enough. As far as I am concerned they done enough to suck the fun out of the game, and make it less apealing.

I have a dirge and troub and it's almost embarrassing to cast half their spells, they look and sound like crap now... there really is no other way to put it.

If there intention was to suck the fun out of the game and make it less appealing $oE should look at the latest changes as a win. Kudos to you $oE for your giant leaps and bound to the WoW factor.

Devogen · 09-01-2010, 01:21 AM

While on the subject of bards i'd like to make a motion that the bard songs get their original sound back, the new sounds remind me of pacman .MIDIs, case and point is the Percussion of Stone used to be an ominous thudding , a well simulated bass drum, but now the sound barely passes for a percussion intrument

archikauri · 09-01-2010, 04:01 AM

When we have the possibility to play with older spell ?

isest · 09-01-2010, 08:24 AM

Well I was on my warlock last night and I must have been titled at the right angle up near the keran scout. When I hit rift, the first time I noticed this, there was several yellow walls of lights comming out of the ground, it was such a bright neon yellow it washed my screen out for just a second, I could not see anything but yellow. Im guessing you have to be at the right angle or in somewhere well lit for it to do that.

Please set rift back to what it was.

Barx · 09-01-2010, 09:37 AM

archikauri wrote:

When we have the possibility to play with older spell ?

You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back.

Alvane · 09-01-2010, 01:08 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

archikauri wrote:
When we have the possibility to play with older spell ?
You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back.

If you wish to play with an older visual effect, demote your spells to a lower level such as master to adept 1 or apprentice. SMILEY

Ciara52 · 09-01-2010, 01:28 PM

Alvane@Unrest wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
archikauri wrote:
When we have the possibility to play with older spell ?
You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back.
If you wish to play with an older visual effect, demote your spells to a lower level such as master to adept 1 or apprentice.

Honestly not sure where you got that demoting spells to a lower level makes sense. The older version was by far better then the current ummmm situation.

Obviously no rollback, change or hope is coming soon or ever.

So the only question left is "rolling forward" sub or not.

Guess it will depend on how much it will matter in the end.

On the bright side I can soon get rid of station access because some toons aren't worth playining anymore.

archikauri · 09-01-2010, 02:35 PM

for all time we have not the possibility to play with older spell efect i continue to post.

But i think i can begin to create some post for this... each day, each hour, each minute...

FartherAbroad · 09-01-2010, 06:52 PM

On Graphics/Update/SOE-of-late.....

This is NOT to fellow posters, this is on the ODD chance that a DEVELOPER reads this "roundtable" feedback.....so your flames etc will have no effect if you choose to comment.

I never post on this thing because quite honestly I have enough contact in game without having to contact it out of game.

I read the Patch Notes, Updates, and assorted class forums (Mostly for those lovely people that like to number crunch and tell me which item will give me 0.003% more healing/dps/etc.)

As of September 18th I will be cancelling my own, my wifes, and our shared account. Yes, all three. I realize that its hardly a drop in the bucket from the happiness you will be recieving shortly from the F2P crowd, but I want you to seriously look up this account and the accounts that this credit card pays for. Look at how much "fluff" my wife has bought from the Station store even in the past year. I want you to think how many F2P accounts buying odds and ends will it take to make up my monthly balance.

The reasons for stopping are quite simple. We waited 6 months for a GU and when it came it was pretty much a slap in the face and some pretties for the F2P crowd. There was no "updating" taking place and it was pretty sad. As for the spell effects, you guys have dropped the ball BIG TIME here. EQ2's graphics were what set it APART from the rest of the eye candy out there. So if you think that reducing the graphics so more people with ancient computers can play with a higher resolution will bring in more cash, then that is totally your choice but we don't have to enjoy it.

They say that one satisfied customer will do more to advertise a product then print or graphic medium. I can not force my guildmates and friends to quit. Some of them already have without posting, some have posted. Some are hoping and waiting for a change or a rollback and some are more addicted to me. Please SOE do not rely on the addiction/nostalgia factor to keep long term subscribers. We will eventually clue in and leave.

Its been great fun, but if there is no graphic rollback (or an option for both old and new), and the promise of a better update then when the subs come up for renew they will be cancelled. Again, this isn't drama or a rage quit. This was a carefully thought out decision.

08-30-2010, 09:17 PM	#331
Morlinde Lord Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14	Pheep@Unrest wrote: Castonu wrote: Can you please remove the Horn sound from Clara's for dirges. It is the most used debuff for every dirge and the horn sound that it makes is terribly annoying. This debuff is cast on every pull and mob in the game...please, please remove the horn sound. And while you are looking at this problem...tone down the excruciating loud combat sounds when some of these spells are cast or wearing off these mobs for dirges. Please please please! I would also like to add my voice to this request as I find the horn sound very intrusive and distracting. It would be wonderful if it could be removed, or at the very least toned down. Thank you!

08-30-2010, 11:11 PM	#332
Ciara52 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 504	isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day

08-30-2010, 11:37 PM	#333
isest Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 653	Ciara52 wrote: isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him

08-31-2010, 01:09 AM	#335
Lera Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 661	I'd love to have an option to have the old spell effects back, but please at least put back the effect (and the player animation) for the paladin spell Consecrate. The others I guess I'll get used to, but I really want Consecrate back. __________________

08-31-2010, 04:15 AM	#338
Kabahl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 146	Wizard: Shackle (any level) Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer. __________________

08-30-2010, 11:43 PM	#334
Prymevil Champion Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 1	I really hate to be negative, but the new spell effects are awful. They don't look like natural effects in the world of Norrath, they look like animated comic strip art which does not fit this game or it's players. The spell effects in EQ2 were some of the best anywhere, but are forgettable now. This is not a minor issue, either. Some of the spell effects from EQ1 are better than EQ2 now, and that is a shame. I don't know why the much loved spell effects were changed to begin with, I can only assume it has something to do with thinking new players would prefer them, but I assure you that is not the case. If we cannot have an option to choose the old or new effects, please put the old effects back. I believe I am the only person in my guild posting here, but I assure you, NO ONE is happy. I cannot think of a single new effect on any of my toons I would trade the old effects for.

08-31-2010, 01:38 AM	#336
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	I still want to know why green skulls are eminating from me when I cast my heal spell. EXPLAIN, SONY! EXPLAIN!

08-31-2010, 04:22 AM	#339
Azol Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 526	Charn@Guk wrote: Wizard: Shackle (any level) Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer. +1 __________________

08-31-2010, 07:09 AM	#340
Jaremai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,271	Charn@Guk wrote: What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. But.. but.. they can't maintain two sets of spell effects at the same time. You're obviously seeing things.

08-31-2010, 08:52 AM	#341
Whilhelmina Server: Storms Guild: Les Furies d Innoruuk Rank: Matriarches Tester Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: France (Storms) Posts: 3,161	All those new spells, except some random one for rangers, are plain hideous. COULDWE GET A SWITCH PLEASE ! __________________ French Tradeskill Guide and my houses.

08-31-2010, 09:11 AM	#342
isest Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 653	What they should do is a total Rollback!! Then take a long look at whats been said. Give us a way to turn them on and off with a toggle switch. That way the folks that don't want the spell effects can turn them off. Those of us who love them can leave them on. Also that excuse we wanted folks to know who is using master spells and increase the visual spell effects via tier level. I have to say I can not tell the difference between the spell tier levels, so if that is what they were trying to do they missed the mark all together. And for those who say its helped frame rate. I been looking at that too. At best I got 3-4 more frames per second with the new spells. In raid zones I still get the 25-30 frame rate I have always seen. So if were trying to help lag we missed the mark there as well. I think the dev's should take a look at all this feedback, and gosh knows there is enough of it and realize, what they were attempting to do did not work as intended. Nor did it have the effect of making their paying customer happy campers.

08-31-2010, 11:36 AM	#343
Alenna Server: Guk Guild: Defenders of the Light Rank: Count Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,938	Charn@Guk wrote: Wizard: Shackle (any level) Shackle used to have a HUGE, realistic-looking chain that covered the mob. It was gray and rust colored and looked VERY awesome. Now it's just a piddly little translucent three blue chains that look . . . well, pathetic in comparison. What's WORSE I've seen some mobs use the OLD effect on ME, so I know you still use the old effect in-game. Can you revert Shackle back to the old effect, it was MUCH nicer. +1 __________________

08-31-2010, 01:34 PM	#344
Morlinde Lord Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14	isest wrote: Ciara52 wrote: isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate.

08-31-2010, 02:32 PM	#345
Jrral Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,610	Morlinde wrote: Pheep@Unrest wrote: Castonu wrote: Can you please remove the Horn sound from Clara's for dirges. It is the most used debuff for every dirge and the horn sound that it makes is terribly annoying. This debuff is cast on every pull and mob in the game...please, please remove the horn sound. And while you are looking at this problem...tone down the excruciating loud combat sounds when some of these spells are cast or wearing off these mobs for dirges. Please please please! I would also like to add my voice to this request as I find the horn sound very intrusive and distracting. It would be wonderful if it could be removed, or at the very least toned down. Thank you! I'll add my vote to this. As a tank I find that horn distracting, disconcerting and not at all what I expect to hear from a bard. It sounds more like something a fighter'd sound rallying the raid. I think what it comes down to is that as the tank I used to be able to tell just by sounds when some of the major debuffs/buffs/procs were fired off, which was good because I already have enough things competing for eyeball bandwidth. A lot of the new sound effects just don't do as good a job of cuing me in to what's going off as the old ones did. It's not just that they're different, it's that they're not as distinctive and/or not as readily audible as the old ones.

08-31-2010, 03:14 PM	#346
Jaffa Tamarin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 208	I like the new graphic for the defiler's warding pet. Much better than that silly pyramid. __________________ Fluffy list

08-31-2010, 07:49 PM	#347
Felinu Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13	Morlinde wrote: isest wrote: Ciara52 wrote: isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate. The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list.

08-31-2010, 08:12 PM	#348
Morlinde Lord Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 14	Felinu wrote: Morlinde wrote: isest wrote: Ciara52 wrote: isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate. The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list. Oooooh! Thank you for the clarification, that does explain things. Next time I log in I'll check which buff it is that's giving me the blue notes. I hope the decision isn't made to eliminate the notes altogether... That would be quite sad.

08-31-2010, 08:49 PM	#349
denmom Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paradigm Clutch: Never shift reality without one... Posts: 2,490	The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those. __________________ What I do when not playing EQ2: Paradigm Clutch

08-31-2010, 10:13 PM	#350
Ciara52 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 504	Felinu wrote: Morlinde wrote: isest wrote: Ciara52 wrote: isest wrote: I really cant get a good screenshot of my troubadour, however what I am attempting to show is the one person to the left is a dirge not in group, he has floating spells aroud him. The person in group with me has spells around her. My trouby has nothing. Can we please turn those back on the trouby, you already fixed the dirge. I read this and got all happy! Dirge is fixed my notes are back? So I logged in and no no they are not Here I thought you had made my day Well when I log back in I will see if he was in a group. There were only the 3 uf us in the kin hall. I know hes a dirge as i saw the notes on him. I know he was not in my group as I got the wife to load in to take the screen he did have notes around him, I just need to see if he was grouped. Bad news is hes on a strange work rotation. But I will ask him I'm confused about this one. My dirge still has floaty notes and has had floaty notes since the first time I logged in after the patch. It's no longer multiple groups of different colored notes (if I remember correctly we used to have at least an orange-ish set and a pale blue set, can't recall if there was another) but I'm actually very pleased that they've cut it down to just the pale blue set. I would miss them if they were gone entirely, but just having one definitely improves my framerate. The reason you are still seeing the blue notes it because they are being caused by an AA ability. They have not revamped the AA spells yet, so you still have that, but they've already said that the AA spell graphics revamp is next on the list. Well at least for a bit there will be notes. I suppose they will ruin that too. It seems the "lets wreck all the graphics is the new game"

08-31-2010, 11:33 PM	#351
isest Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 653	Pheep@Unrest wrote: The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those. Well us trouby's get Don't kill the messenger crit chance by 12.5, its the same aa line as Don't shoot the messenger. However i guess it don't give us the blue notes like the dirge does. I know that the one that was in my screen shot has the Don't shoot the messenger, asked him to turn it off and boom not blue notes. So for some reason I guess the trouby one never had the blue notes. I just hope that they decide to leave the AA stuff alone, its going to be hard enough to roll back what we have, and I sure don't want them messing anything else up, as right now its bad enough. As far as I am concerned they done enough to suck the fun out of the game, and make it less apealing.

08-31-2010, 11:46 PM	#352
Elwin Server: Venekor Guild: Blades of Honor Rank: Master Blade Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 659	isest wrote: Pheep@Unrest wrote: The buff which gives the blue notes is Don't Shoot The Messenger. I have a Dirge and went looking for what until cancelled buff gave those. Well us trouby's get Don't kill the messenger crit chance by 12.5, its the same aa line as Don't shoot the messenger. However i guess it don't give us the blue notes like the dirge does. I know that the one that was in my screen shot has the Don't shoot the messenger, asked him to turn it off and boom not blue notes. So for some reason I guess the trouby one never had the blue notes. I just hope that they decide to leave the AA stuff alone, its going to be hard enough to roll back what we have, and I sure don't want them messing anything else up, as right now its bad enough. As far as I am concerned they done enough to suck the fun out of the game, and make it less apealing. I have a dirge and troub and it's almost embarrassing to cast half their spells, they look and sound like crap now... there really is no other way to put it. If there intention was to suck the fun out of the game and make it less appealing $oE should look at the latest changes as a win. Kudos to you $oE for your giant leaps and bound to the WoW factor.

09-01-2010, 01:21 AM	#353
Devogen Loremaster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3	While on the subject of bards i'd like to make a motion that the bard songs get their original sound back, the new sounds remind me of pacman .MIDIs, case and point is the Percussion of Stone used to be an ominous thudding , a well simulated bass drum, but now the sound barely passes for a percussion intrument

09-01-2010, 04:01 AM	#354
archikauri Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 53	When we have the possibility to play with older spell ?

09-01-2010, 08:24 AM	#355
isest Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 653	Well I was on my warlock last night and I must have been titled at the right angle up near the keran scout. When I hit rift, the first time I noticed this, there was several yellow walls of lights comming out of the ground, it was such a bright neon yellow it washed my screen out for just a second, I could not see anything but yellow. Im guessing you have to be at the right angle or in somewhere well lit for it to do that. Please set rift back to what it was.

09-01-2010, 09:37 AM	#356
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	archikauri wrote: When we have the possibility to play with older spell ? You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back.

09-01-2010, 01:08 PM	#357
Alvane Server: Unrest Guild: Old Timer Guild Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,363	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: archikauri wrote: When we have the possibility to play with older spell ? You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back. If you wish to play with an older visual effect, demote your spells to a lower level such as master to adept 1 or apprentice.

09-01-2010, 01:28 PM	#358
Ciara52 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 504	Alvane@Unrest wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: archikauri wrote: When we have the possibility to play with older spell ? You're not. They're changing some effects as they go, but they're not rolling it back. If you wish to play with an older visual effect, demote your spells to a lower level such as master to adept 1 or apprentice. Honestly not sure where you got that demoting spells to a lower level makes sense. The older version was by far better then the current ummmm situation. Obviously no rollback, change or hope is coming soon or ever. So the only question left is "rolling forward" sub or not. Guess it will depend on how much it will matter in the end. On the bright side I can soon get rid of station access because some toons aren't worth playining anymore.

09-01-2010, 02:35 PM	#359
archikauri Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 53	for all time we have not the possibility to play with older spell efect i continue to post. But i think i can begin to create some post for this... each day, each hour, each minute...

09-01-2010, 06:52 PM	#360
FartherAbroad Newbie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1	On Graphics/Update/SOE-of-late..... This is NOT to fellow posters, this is on the ODD chance that a DEVELOPER reads this "roundtable" feedback.....so your flames etc will have no effect if you choose to comment. I never post on this thing because quite honestly I have enough contact in game without having to contact it out of game. I read the Patch Notes, Updates, and assorted class forums (Mostly for those lovely people that like to number crunch and tell me which item will give me 0.003% more healing/dps/etc.) As of September 18th I will be cancelling my own, my wifes, and our shared account. Yes, all three. I realize that its hardly a drop in the bucket from the happiness you will be recieving shortly from the F2P crowd, but I want you to seriously look up this account and the accounts that this credit card pays for. Look at how much "fluff" my wife has bought from the Station store even in the past year. I want you to think how many F2P accounts buying odds and ends will it take to make up my monthly balance. The reasons for stopping are quite simple. We waited 6 months for a GU and when it came it was pretty much a slap in the face and some pretties for the F2P crowd. There was no "updating" taking place and it was pretty sad. As for the spell effects, you guys have dropped the ball BIG TIME here. EQ2's graphics were what set it APART from the rest of the eye candy out there. So if you think that reducing the graphics so more people with ancient computers can play with a higher resolution will bring in more cash, then that is totally your choice but we don't have to enjoy it. They say that one satisfied customer will do more to advertise a product then print or graphic medium. I can not force my guildmates and friends to quit. Some of them already have without posting, some have posted. Some are hoping and waiting for a change or a rollback and some are more addicted to me. Please SOE do not rely on the addiction/nostalgia factor to keep long term subscribers. We will eventually clue in and leave. Its been great fun, but if there is no graphic rollback (or an option for both old and new), and the promise of a better update then when the subs come up for renew they will be cancelled. Again, this isn't drama or a rage quit. This was a carefully thought out decision.