Could someone please explain how to get UI settings to persist through logout?

[Narsikus]

K, here’s the short of it:

 

I logged in my char. last night, did a /loadui, loaded the default Blue UI, then I /loadui_settings from another toon to get my hotbars/chat channels back.  Then I rearranged the new char. window, resized the big XP bar, and joined a custom chat channel that I wasn’t in before.  I had everything like I wanted it and thought I was good to go.  But after shutting the game down and logging back in later, I realized everything was exactly the same as before.  Everything I did listed above had been reverted.

 

Can anyone please explain the exact steps we need to do to fix this so all UI settings actually save?

 

 

 

More info/long version:

 

I checked the forums a bit last night and noticed many others were having the same problem, especially with keeping the blue UI.  I then found this solution from Yaevin:

 

“Here's how to make it permenant...

 

Go to your EQ2 directory. Once there, go into the UI/Default_Blue folder.

 

If you're using EQ2Maps, copy the Images folder to UI/EQ2Maps. Windows will tell you that you already have a folder there, just click ok. Also confirm any overwrites, if asked. This should never break, in theory.”

 

I did his solution and it did fix the red/blue issue but I think this is just a workaround that doesn’t address the actual problem.  Because after doing that, I still can’t save any of the other elements like window/xp bar locations or chat channels. 

 

I thought maybe EQ2Maps, which I use, was interfering with it, so I uninstalled it from add/remove programs in control panel.  But it was still there when I logged back in.  I then did /loadui and selected default blue again which got rid of eq2maps.  But when I logged out and back in, eq2maps was still there.  I have 3 folders in my UI subdirectory, a red, blue and eq2maps folder.  Should I delete one or two of these?

 

Anyway, I’d really appreciate it if anyone could list out a complete list of simple steps to do and what to check to resolve this.  From reading the forums, several people are easily able to fix this by doing /loadui and then /loadui_settings.  But for many others, there’s something in there conflicting with this that keeps making us reset.

 

Thanks in advance!

[CoLD MeTaL]

$OE devs must fix, I figure 3 years OR right after click to cure and autoattack timer bars are in.

Watch your $C store for a 'fix' token.

[Farrudanu]

Admin Kiara moved this topic but, Didn't have time to respond?

Our $15 is paying MORONS

[Barx]

/loadui does not persist after logging out. Never has, and they never should have told people to use that to change their UI, not unless they were also going to change the command to persist.

You need to edit your EQ2.ini to add or update to:

cl_ui_skinname Default_Bluecl_ui_subdir UI/

[CoLD MeTaL]

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

/loadui does not persist after logging out. Never has, and they never should have told people to use that to change their UI, not unless they were also going to change the command to persist.

You need to edit your EQ2.ini to add or update to:

cl_ui_skinname Default_Bluecl_ui_subdir UI/

Even then the XP window among others will not persist through log out.

[Barx]

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

Even then the XP window among others will not persist through log out.

If you have it "snapped" to the bottom then it will keep going full size, but otherwise it should be saving.

[Glenolas]

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

/loadui does not persist after logging out. Never has, and they never should have told people to use that to change their UI, not unless they were also going to change the command to persist.

You need to edit your EQ2.ini to add or update to:

cl_ui_skinname Default_Bluecl_ui_subdir UI/

Sorry Barx, for this double reply.   I am reposting this from our earlier discussion in another thread, which Kaira locked, claiming redundancy.   Seems like the old trick of moving a controversial topic to an obscure location, where it won't be read.

My previous post to you:

The topic of that thread was:  "Has the blue interface change been fixed to persist thru logout yet?" and I was the OP.

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Not a bug, /loadui has never worked that way. You need to set it in your EQ2.ini if you want it to persist.

My question wasn't how to edit anything to fix it.   I understand how it works.  I understand how to fix it.  I'm not going to.

Any competent design should allow changing to blue background without wiping your extant layout, and without having to edit any .ini files to make it persistent.    How did this stuff ever get live?

We both read the forums.  I'm watching a growing list of current players zap their old layouts by merely trying to get blue backgrounds.    Roughly half will not know how to edit their .ini files.   Some will have saved their layouts on other characters on the same account, and can recover, without having to redo it from scratch.  Others won't have.   All will be angry.

Then there's the newcomers. 

If they started with red, the default, it will also assume they magically know to  save a copy of their uisettings or they going to have to do them over again after changing the background to blue. 

It also assumes a new player will understand how to edit his .ini file (without there being a guide for this) in order to keep his background blue, should he want it after he logs out.   And of course it presumes that new players will not mind having to edit their .ini files to crutch around pitiful software. 

After several dozen quits, SOE will "look into it".   Someday they might fix it.  

My question was:  have they fixed it yet?

[Barx]

Glenolas wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

/loadui does not persist after logging out. Never has, and they never should have told people to use that to change their UI, not unless they were also going to change the command to persist.

You need to edit your EQ2.ini to add or update to:

cl_ui_skinname Default_Bluecl_ui_subdir UI/

Sorry Barx, for this double reply.   I am reposting this from our earlier discussion in another thread, which Kaira locked, claiming redundancy.

My previous post to you:

The topic of that thread was:  Has the blue interface change been fixed to persist thru logout yet?

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Not a bug, /loadui has never worked that way. You need to set it in your EQ2.ini if you want it to persist.

My question wasn't how to edit anything to fix it.   I understand how it works.  I understand how to fix it.  I'm not going to.

Any competent design should allow changing to blue background without wiping your extant layout, and without having to edit any .ini files to make it persistent.    How did this stuff ever get live?

We both read the forums.  I'm watching a growing list of current players zap their old layouts by merely trying to get blue backgrounds.    Roughly half will not know how to edit their .ini files.   Some will have saved their layouts on other characters on the same account, and can recover, without having to redo it from scratch.  Others won't have.   All will be angry.

Then there's the newcomers. 

If they started with red, the default, it will also assume they know to  save a copy of their uisettings or they going to have to do them over again after changing the background to blue. 

It also assumes a new player will understand how to edit his .ini file (without there being a guide for this) in order to keep his background blue, should he want it after he logs out.   And of course it presumes that new players will not mind having to edit their .ini files to crutch around pitiful software. 

After several dozen quits, SOE will "look into it".   Someday they might fix it.  

My question was:  have they fixed it yet?

Ah, I see what you mean now. To my knowledge /loadui has not been changed.

With that said, they said they are looking at making it a drop-down or similar option to change between colored versions of the default. That will be a lot more intuitive for folks.

[Narsikus]

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

/loadui does not persist after logging out. Never has, and they never should have told people to use that to change their UI, not unless they were also going to change the command to persist.

You need to edit your EQ2.ini to add or update to:

cl_ui_skinname Default_Bluecl_ui_subdir UI/

Even then the XP window among others will not persist through log out.

Exactly - this will keep it blue, but not fix the xp bars moving back, windows resetting and chat channels going away.  How do I fix THAT?

[Glenolas]

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Ah, I see what you mean now. To my knowledge /loadui has not been changed.

To my knowledge, no one has ever used /loadui to make a simple color change to a background.

With that said, they said they are looking at making it a drop-down or similar option to change between colored versions of the default. That will be a lot more intuitive for folks.

Now" they" are looking into it?  

This passed QC?   It wipes the extant layout upon clicking the only method provided to change the color and it got a checkoff from  QC? 

The lead programmer approved a design that requires editing your ini to make it persistent, after tricking it to get your uisettings back?   Somebody at SOE game played it?   Have they ever actually played the game?    Hello? 

Is this the "they" you are talking about?

Say it ain't so, Joe.....

[Barx]

The default_blue UI is treated no differently from any custom UI, it just happens to be a custom UI that is patched by the updater and that is a reskin of the default. Custom UIs have always requiring editing your eq2.ini for them to persist (even those ones with an updater still have to edit your EQ2.ini, they just do it for you). The Default_Blue UI was added shortly before the GU went live as an option for all the people complaining that they didn't like the red. Their only mistake was in telling people to use /loadui to use it, since /loadui is a buggy, non-persistant way of changing your UI.

[Subservience]

I created a topic earlier in general gameplay discussion but moderator quickly locked it and told me to post in this thread so here is my topic.

My new XP bar and window locations keep moving

Hey guys,

I moved my gawdy xp bar around last night and resized it, plus i moved some other windows around.  But when i logged in today for first time everything is set back.   I tried to move it again but it always goes back when i exit game and go back in.  How I fix this?  Thanks for help, i don't know much about this.  Somebody on my server said it was UI issue but i not sure what that means.

[CoLD MeTaL]

I hope it gets fixed.

[Eveningsong]

I copied all of the files in the blue ui folder into my EQ2maps folder, not just the images folder contents.   After doing a /load_uisettings because /loadui wiped my UI setup for hotbars and windows, everything is fine when I relog.  Note that I use the default UI other than EQ2maps.

[Rothgar]

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57. 

[Elwin]

Rothgar wrote:

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57. 

Fighter changes aside, GU57 screams 'dumb it down for EQX play' so loudly it's deafening.

Wow you changed the UI too, well how about you either fix it so it doesn't keep moving or you just change it back to how it was. Wow colour option! Big [Removed for Content] deal. 

I'm sick to death ALREADY of every time I change toons my xp bar has to again to relocated.

You took the clouds away from the Overrealm? You know what, that sort of makes me sad.

[Seffrid]

Rothgar wrote:

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57. 

Ah, it was our fault.

I thought it probably would be.

[Rijacki]

Seffrid wrote:

Rothgar wrote:

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57. 

Ah, it was our fault.

I thought it probably would be.

He didn't say that at all. He said that they wanted to add it for players now but weren't able to add it in as finished as they wanted but, due to player request for the colour change, put it in anyway with those issues.

But, his message would have been better if he'd included a projected time frame for it to be persistant (but that's probably not known yet, due to other issues which might be more dire).

[Yask]

Please make the blue colour the default!!!!!!

The muddy crap coloured colour is horrible!

[MrWolfie]

Rothgar wrote:

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57.

Well you FELT wrong. Again.

I asked you immediately after you posted about /loadui, would it interfere with existing mods and setups. Clearly the answer was yes.

Also, there are STILL pieces of the UI that are RED - window backgrounds and slider bars.

PS. Thanks for screwing up ALL my bags - making me readjust 182 bags. Only to log out and next day find out that two of those bags on every character has reverted to size=42 and the whole g*****n uisettings file has to be mucked about with. Again.

[lemey]

Rothgar wrote:

We hurried to get the blue textures in based on your feedback.  Since this wasn't part of the original schedule we didn't have time to modify the loadui command to make it persist or add the dropdown to the options screen.  We felt that most people would be fine with those issues if it meant getting the color option in for GU57. 

and what happened to the promise of not releasing code that was known not to be working properly roth

[Wildah]

My vision is very sensitive.  I have to be cautious of the hardware I use and software set-up is key.  If not done properly movement in game makes me physically sick.

I've spent hours experimenting with graphic set-up in game.  I only the soe interface so that I didn't have to edit settings when game updates altered.      

Along comes gu57.  The red interface is horrible, in a word.  To get it back to blue I have to do /loadui....each time I log in!!!!  I won't bother wasting any more time settting up graphics because they reset each time I log anyway.   

I'll watch the forums to see if this gets resolved but at this point I can't play and if it persists I really don't see the point in paying. 

PS  Making clients edit .ini files is not the proper way to address this issue.

[GlitterPaws]

Wildah wrote:

My vision is very sensitive.  I have to be cautious of the hardware I use and software set-up is key.  If not done properly movement in game makes me physically sick.

I've spent hours experimenting with graphic set-up in game.  I only the soe interface so that I didn't have to edit settings when game updates altered.      

Along comes gu57.  The red interface is horrible, in a word.  To get it back to blue I have to do /loadui....each time I log in!!!!  I won't bother wasting any more time settting up graphics because they reset each time I log anyway.   

I'll watch the forums to see if this gets resolved but at this point I can't play and if it persists I really don't see the point in paying. 

PS  Making clients edit .ini files is not the proper way to address this issue.

I, too, have very sensitive eyes. Two  surgeries have helped with some sensitivity. Yes, this limits the length of time I can be on the computer. It also limits the amount of motion I can follow in a given setting.

It is MY responsibility to adjust settings whenever there is an update or expansion.  I DO NOT hold ANY GAME responsitle for my physical difficulty.  Yes, I do play other MMOs. EQ2 happens to be my favorite.  I have to adjust settings in each and every game I play.

Personally, I like the red/maroon look. Reminds me of some European games I used to play.

I also like the new UI. My screen is much less cluttered with windows now.

Oh, I generally wait a few days for the shake down of glitches to get hot-fixed before getting upset about game play.

Just my 2 coppers.

[Ahlana]

I am uncertain if the saving of the locations is something in the client though.

None of my 3 computers have had this problem emerge. But my setup could be different.

I have EQ2Maps, I moved the items in the Blue Folder to EQ2Maps UI Folder. I then moved the old XP Bar into my EQ2Maps folder and the New Welcome Screen (modded to not show) also into EQ2Maps.

I then logged into the game and nothing on my screen had changed at all with exception of the XP bar. It was at the bottom stretched. I shrunk it down and moved it back into place, where it has remained now through countless log-ins/outs.

I can not speak for those that don't use a custom UI but if you did the above while using EQ2maps and your UI is still resetting... then something is horribly wrong.

You DO NOT add the Default_Blue line to your eq2.ini if you are already using a different custom UI like EQ2Maps, as that line already exsists and should be pointing to EQ2Maps

[CoLD MeTaL]

Ahlana wrote:

I am uncertain if the saving of the locations is something in the client though.

None of my 3 computers have had this problem emerge. But my setup could be different.

I have EQ2Maps, I moved the items in the Blue Folder to EQ2Maps UI Folder. I then moved the old XP Bar into my EQ2Maps folder and the New Welcome Screen (modded to not show) also into EQ2Maps.

I then logged into the game and nothing on my screen had changed at all with exception of the XP bar. It was at the bottom stretched. I shrunk it down and moved it back into place, where it has remained now through countless log-ins/outs.

I can not speak for those that don't use a custom UI but if you did the above while using EQ2maps and your UI is still resetting... then something is horribly wrong.

You DO NOT add the Default_Blue line to your eq2.ini if you are already using a different custom UI like EQ2Maps, as that line already exsists and should be pointing to EQ2Maps

So, if you don't use any of the 'new' work it's fine?  Makes sense.

[Ahlana]

CoLD MeTaL wrote:

Ahlana wrote:

I am uncertain if the saving of the locations is something in the client though.

None of my 3 computers have had this problem emerge. But my setup could be different.

I have EQ2Maps, I moved the items in the Blue Folder to EQ2Maps UI Folder. I then moved the old XP Bar into my EQ2Maps folder and the New Welcome Screen (modded to not show) also into EQ2Maps.

I then logged into the game and nothing on my screen had changed at all with exception of the XP bar. It was at the bottom stretched. I shrunk it down and moved it back into place, where it has remained now through countless log-ins/outs.

I can not speak for those that don't use a custom UI but if you did the above while using EQ2maps and your UI is still resetting... then something is horribly wrong.

You DO NOT add the Default_Blue line to your eq2.ini if you are already using a different custom UI like EQ2Maps, as that line already exsists and should be pointing to EQ2Maps

So, if you don't use any of the 'new' work it's fine?  Makes sense.

Well EQ2Maps replaces the map system, old xp bar are the only truly custom pieces.. everything else is the new stuff.

I copied the new blue to EQ2maps to combine the two. I modded two numbers in the new welcome window to make it go away (technically it still loads and is still there, I just never see it).

So except for maps and xp bar I am using the new default UI set to blue.

My wife is actually using the new xp bar and her stuff doesn't move around. She is using EQ2Maps and the Blue