EQII Extended - Feedback and Discussion Thread - Page 13

Huene · 07-27-2010, 05:42 PM

[BUG] The game occasionally offers you the option to upgrade to Silver after having upgraded to Gold

Aslita · 07-27-2010, 05:43 PM

Hirofortis@Everfrost wrote:

Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Deadeyes wrote:
from his interview:
Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area...
So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy.
He stated we did not want it and that is why a new service has been launched. This is no different than another server with a different rule set. We now have RP servers, standard servers, Live gamer servers, F2P servers. Who knows, maybe they will open a progressive server next.

This is very different from a server with a specific rule set for one specific reason: new players are being funnelled into it.

Crismorn · 07-27-2010, 05:43 PM

Crabbok@Oasis wrote:

NotGaige wrote:
Loolee wrote:
Because micro-transactions is where the money is.
Sure, people say that all the time but I have to wonder how much profit is "enough" - is there even enough?
75k subs would be a little over a million a month and when combined with LoN and SC revenue I just don't see how EQ2 is doing so bad that they would be that desperate for additional revenue, tbh.
No amount is ever "enough". Sadly, I think we should all go back to pen and paper RPG's playing over our buddy's house and there will be no micro transactions to be spoken of!

I'm rolling up an Inquisitor right now, yes he can use a greatsword

Loolee · 07-27-2010, 05:43 PM

Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Deadeyes wrote:
from his interview:
Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area...
So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy.

People may have said they didn't want this stuff, but I have a feeling that the Marketplace says otherwise. The success of games like Free Realms have shown that this is extremely lucrative.

NViDiaFReaK · 07-27-2010, 05:45 PM

Jovie@Guk wrote:

Given how easy it is to level up in this game, why would anyone pay 35 bucks a toon to transfer when you can just start over?

well lets see i have 6 lvl 90's 1 toon is lvl 88 and 4 of those toons i have 250 aa on.. I have 6 years of vested interest and achievements, items and memories that cannot be gotten back.. so yea why wouldn't i just start over!!!

Yimway · 07-27-2010, 05:46 PM

Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Deadeyes wrote:
Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area...
So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy.

Make no mistake, this guise is nothing more than to change this community from a stance of:

"We don't want f2p in our game, if you do we quit"

to

"Put the same f2p on our servers, or we quit."

It's a ruse, thinly concealed.

kukubird · 07-27-2010, 05:47 PM

Will live gamer be available on the extended servers as part of the " Robust Marketplace " ? Really would like to have this bit of information so I can plan ahead.

By the way, in my opinion this is an amazing step forward for SOE and the eq2 franchise. Now just advertise in traditional media.

NViDiaFReaK · 07-27-2010, 05:48 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Deadeyes wrote:
Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area...
So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy.
Make no mistake, this guise is nothing more than to change this community from a stance of:
"We don't want f2p in our game, if you do we quit"
to
"Put the same f2p on our servers, or we quit."
It's a ruse, thinly concealed.

+1

Quicksilver74 · 07-27-2010, 05:48 PM

You all have made it clear that you don't want to be forced to leave your home planet of Earth. We have no plans to relocate you.... However, we will begin sucking all the oxygen out of the planet using Mega-Maid, so if you'd like to pay $35, we will be happy to transport you to Mar$.

Louder · 07-27-2010, 05:50 PM

Just have 1 thing to say..

3 of 4 accounts canceled, make SOE feel it where it hurts, we can b!tch and complain but they only really care about 1 thing.

PlaneCrazy · 07-27-2010, 05:51 PM

Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:

SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever.
Sad Day indeed
RIP EQ2

It didn't just slip out. They were ready to make the anouncement. Witness the faq's, the matrix, the blog posts by SmokeJumper, etc.

That's what makes me sure that they had been working on this for a LONG time. It wasn't just hashed up over beer and pretzels at the company picnic last month. Just reinforces a lot of the double talk complaints, IMO.

Gorash · 07-27-2010, 05:51 PM

Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:

SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever.
Sad Day indeed
RIP EQ2

yeah its sad that the game I've played since it opened back in `04 is being put to death this way....

MoiraesFate · 07-27-2010, 05:52 PM

SOE, why would you screw over your player base like this? You're ensuring that eventually everyone will have to move to f2p whether they want it or not. And none of the longer players of this game are dumb enough to fall for it.

Stormflint · 07-27-2010, 05:52 PM

What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

kelesia · 07-27-2010, 05:52 PM

For health reasons I can not play eq2 on my desktop, and my laptop is a macbook. I was excited to see this afte rthe initial disappointment of another lie by a redname from SOE. but.... the web installer is an exe file. for the love of all that is holy, why couldn't it be a true web application, cross platform? To quote my boyfriend (a successful web developer I might add): 'SOE has always been sub-par on the technology curve.'

I should have learned by now, I shouldn't be disappointed, but I am. Very disappointed. SMILEY

TalisX1 · 07-27-2010, 05:53 PM

PlaneCrazy wrote:

Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:
SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever.
Sad Day indeed
RIP EQ2
It didn't just slip out. They were ready to make the anouncement. Witness the faq's, the matrix, the blog posts by SmokeJumper, etc.
That's what makes me sure that they had been working on this for a LONG time. It wasn't just hashed up over beer and pretzels at the company picnic last month. Just reinforces a lot of the double talk complaints, IMO.

The slip was the broker on test denying access because of lack of gold membership. Happened when test was up briefly earlier.

Silat

BaronJuJu · 07-27-2010, 05:53 PM

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:

What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet.

Hirofortis · 07-27-2010, 05:54 PM

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:

What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

This is something that most are not even noticing.

We need to have perks that would make it worth moving from a F2P server to the Live servers. This is the only way you will be able to get this model to work.

jimbrit · 07-27-2010, 05:54 PM

BaronJuJu wrote:

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:
What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?
I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet.

Thats because there arent any. (Apart from if you wait long enough you can have the server to yourself I guess)

BearClaw · 07-27-2010, 05:55 PM

maxpower wrote:

Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players?

The trial is still there, its on the recruit a friend program.

Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards.

MoiraesFate · 07-27-2010, 05:55 PM

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:

What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

No one has bothered to say.

Vinyard · 07-27-2010, 05:56 PM

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:

What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

I've been asking this since the announcement....an answer would be really appreciated.

TalisX1 · 07-27-2010, 05:56 PM

BearClaw wrote:

maxpower wrote:
Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players?
The trial is still there,its on the Refer a friend program.
Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards.

While technically true....it is BS. How many people that want to try the game will know an active player?

Silat

jimbrit · 07-27-2010, 05:57 PM

MoiraesFate wrote:

Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:
What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?
No one has bothered to say.

There cant be any. Otherwise I am 100000000% sure SOE would be posting them right now (rather than deleting posts)

Erriondrivan · 07-27-2010, 05:58 PM

I cancelled my 2nd account today. I barely even play my main lately so I figured it's a waste of money.

But with these changes I can tell there wont be much point having my main account subbed.

Thank god for League of Legends taking up time until something else worth playing comes out.

Hirofortis · 07-27-2010, 05:58 PM

Azlea@Splitpaw wrote:

BaronJuJu wrote:
Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote:
What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?
I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet.
Thats because there arent any. (Apart from if you wait long enough you can have the server to yourself I guess)

I would expect it is more that people need to calm down enough for them to be able to post them without it getting buried in a pile. I know they are watching the posts very carefully and are trying to communicate with people. The hard part is peeps keep twisting what they are saying. Hopefully we can get some more info soon.

Aslita · 07-27-2010, 05:59 PM

BearClaw wrote:

maxpower wrote:
Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players?
The trial is still there, its on the recruit a friend program.
Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards.

I'm sorry but the trial is not still there. The refer a friend program is different from the trial.

I don't have any friends that EQ2 would appeal to so refer a friend is useless in my case. That is why the trial is important, it encourages people who have no prior contact with the game to give it a try. Furthermore it is vitally important on live servers to avoid them suffering a slow death.

Please don't say again that it's okay to remove the trial because the refer a friend is still staying.

Duhana · 07-27-2010, 06:00 PM

...goodbye Norrath.

Geothe · 07-27-2010, 06:00 PM

This will DESTROY all of the current servers.

If you aren't able to realize that, I dont know how you were able to remain through the recent layoff round that went through since you are obviously clueless.

The complete audacity of this shows how you don't really give a darn about your current player base.

Congrats on destroying the game I used to love completely.

Andu · 07-27-2010, 06:00 PM

There is absolutely no benefit to being on EQLive, other than not having to put up with the 8 year olds milling around in Antonica spamming drivel in the shout channel.

Since noone actually goes to Antonica now, that is no benefit either.

07-27-2010, 05:43 PM	#362
Aslita Server: Runnyeye Guild: Fate Rank: Fate Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 218	Hirofortis@Everfrost wrote: Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote: Deadeyes wrote: from his interview: Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area... So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy. He stated we did not want it and that is why a new service has been launched. This is no different than another server with a different rule set. We now have RP servers, standard servers, Live gamer servers, F2P servers. Who knows, maybe they will open a progressive server next. This is very different from a server with a specific rule set for one specific reason: new players are being funnelled into it. __________________ My decorating: Aslita's Mistmoore Crag Estate NotD Contest Entry Aslita's new New Halas home A Magnificent Maj'Dul Home An Elven Castle The Dimensional Globe Pool A Shadowknight's House Upside Down House The Mirror Maze New Guild Hall Library Fate's Guild Hall Aslita's Magical Manor

07-27-2010, 05:43 PM	#363
Crismorn Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,840	Crabbok@Oasis wrote: NotGaige wrote: Loolee wrote: Because micro-transactions is where the money is. Sure, people say that all the time but I have to wonder how much profit is "enough" - is there even enough? 75k subs would be a little over a million a month and when combined with LoN and SC revenue I just don't see how EQ2 is doing so bad that they would be that desperate for additional revenue, tbh. No amount is ever "enough". Sadly, I think we should all go back to pen and paper RPG's playing over our buddy's house and there will be no micro transactions to be spoken of! I'm rolling up an Inquisitor right now, yes he can use a greatsword

07-27-2010, 05:43 PM	#364
Loolee Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 757	Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote: Deadeyes wrote: from his interview: Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area... So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy. People may have said they didn't want this stuff, but I have a feeling that the Marketplace says otherwise. The success of games like Free Realms have shown that this is extremely lucrative.

07-27-2010, 05:45 PM	#365
NViDiaFReaK Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Woodlands, Tx Posts: 544	Jovie@Guk wrote: Given how easy it is to level up in this game, why would anyone pay 35 bucks a toon to transfer when you can just start over? well lets see i have 6 lvl 90's 1 toon is lvl 88 and 4 of those toons i have 250 aa on.. I have 6 years of vested interest and achievements, items and memories that cannot be gotten back.. so yea why wouldn't i just start over!!! __________________

07-27-2010, 05:46 PM	#366
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote: Deadeyes wrote: Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area... So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy. Make no mistake, this guise is nothing more than to change this community from a stance of: "We don't want f2p in our game, if you do we quit" to "Put the same f2p on our servers, or we quit." It's a ruse, thinly concealed. __________________

07-27-2010, 05:47 PM	#367
kukubird Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 185	Will live gamer be available on the extended servers as part of the " Robust Marketplace " ? Really would like to have this bit of information so I can plan ahead. By the way, in my opinion this is an amazing step forward for SOE and the eq2 franchise. Now just advertise in traditional media.

07-27-2010, 05:48 PM	#368
NViDiaFReaK Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Woodlands, Tx Posts: 544	Atan@Unrest wrote: Illiam@Antonia Bayle wrote: Deadeyes wrote: Are you afraid that this might fragment the community by creating two different services?[Long pause] ...We're going to have to wait and see. The players have told us they didn't want this stuff and that's why it's a completely separate area... So, here Dave admits that the we (the players) have told SOE that they don't want this stuff, and somehow, he thinks it's a good idea to do it anyway. Server merges could be a possible solution, he says. I hate to say it, but I'd rather have Brenlo back than this guy. Make no mistake, this guise is nothing more than to change this community from a stance of: "We don't want f2p in our game, if you do we quit" to "Put the same f2p on our servers, or we quit." It's a ruse, thinly concealed. +1 __________________

07-27-2010, 05:48 PM	#369
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	You all have made it clear that you don't want to be forced to leave your home planet of Earth. We have no plans to relocate you.... However, we will begin sucking all the oxygen out of the planet using Mega-Maid, so if you'd like to pay $35, we will be happy to transport you to Mar$.

07-27-2010, 05:50 PM	#370
Louder Master Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5	Just have 1 thing to say.. 3 of 4 accounts canceled, make SOE feel it where it hurts, we can b!tch and complain but they only really care about 1 thing.

07-27-2010, 05:51 PM	#371
PlaneCrazy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 934	Azlea@Splitpaw wrote: SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever. Sad Day indeed RIP EQ2 It didn't just slip out. They were ready to make the anouncement. Witness the faq's, the matrix, the blog posts by SmokeJumper, etc. That's what makes me sure that they had been working on this for a LONG time. It wasn't just hashed up over beer and pretzels at the company picnic last month. Just reinforces a lot of the double talk complaints, IMO. __________________

07-27-2010, 05:51 PM	#372
Gorash Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Azlea@Splitpaw wrote: SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever. Sad Day indeed RIP EQ2 yeah its sad that the game I've played since it opened back in `04 is being put to death this way....

07-27-2010, 05:52 PM	#373
MoiraesFate Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 375	SOE, why would you screw over your player base like this? You're ensuring that eventually everyone will have to move to f2p whether they want it or not. And none of the longer players of this game are dumb enough to fall for it.

07-27-2010, 05:52 PM	#374
Stormflint Server: Mistmoore Guild: Scions of Swig Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 181	What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live?

07-27-2010, 05:52 PM	#375
kelesia Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 290	For health reasons I can not play eq2 on my desktop, and my laptop is a macbook. I was excited to see this afte rthe initial disappointment of another lie by a redname from SOE. but.... the web installer is an exe file. for the love of all that is holy, why couldn't it be a true web application, cross platform? To quote my boyfriend (a successful web developer I might add): 'SOE has always been sub-par on the technology curve.' I should have learned by now, I shouldn't be disappointed, but I am. Very disappointed. __________________

07-27-2010, 05:53 PM	#376
TalisX1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 387	PlaneCrazy wrote: Azlea@Splitpaw wrote: SOE Fail as usual. Whats the betting they wouldnt have said anything until after (or during) Fan Faire . Only because yet again it slips out they HAVE to post something. Nothing for the existing players though. Those servers are being left to whither and die , with seemingly no care from SOE whatsoever. Sad Day indeed RIP EQ2 It didn't just slip out. They were ready to make the anouncement. Witness the faq's, the matrix, the blog posts by SmokeJumper, etc. That's what makes me sure that they had been working on this for a LONG time. It wasn't just hashed up over beer and pretzels at the company picnic last month. Just reinforces a lot of the double talk complaints, IMO. The slip was the broker on test denying access because of lack of gold membership. Happened when test was up briefly earlier. Silat

07-27-2010, 05:53 PM	#377
BaronJuJu Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 20	Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet.

07-27-2010, 05:54 PM	#378
Hirofortis Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 610	Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? This is something that most are not even noticing. We need to have perks that would make it worth moving from a F2P server to the Live servers. This is the only way you will be able to get this model to work.

07-27-2010, 05:54 PM	#379
jimbrit Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 106	BaronJuJu wrote: Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet. Thats because there arent any. (Apart from if you wait long enough you can have the server to yourself I guess) __________________ Azlea 80 Ranger Splitpaw Guild Leader United Kingdoms Keep in mind that SOE's game updates don't guarantee monthly subscriptions

07-27-2010, 05:55 PM	#380
BearClaw Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 40	maxpower wrote: Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players? The trial is still there, its on the recruit a friend program. Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards.

07-27-2010, 05:55 PM	#381
MoiraesFate Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 375	Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? No one has bothered to say.

07-27-2010, 05:56 PM	#382
Vinyard Server: Antonia Bayle Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 690	Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? I've been asking this since the announcement....an answer would be really appreciated.

07-27-2010, 05:56 PM	#383
TalisX1 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 387	BearClaw wrote: maxpower wrote: Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players? The trial is still there,its on the Refer a friend program. Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards. While technically true....it is BS. How many people that want to try the game will know an active player? Silat

07-27-2010, 05:57 PM	#384
jimbrit Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 106	MoiraesFate wrote: Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? No one has bothered to say. There cant be any. Otherwise I am 100000000% sure SOE would be posting them right now (rather than deleting posts) __________________ Azlea 80 Ranger Splitpaw Guild Leader United Kingdoms Keep in mind that SOE's game updates don't guarantee monthly subscriptions

07-27-2010, 05:58 PM	#385
Erriondrivan Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 45	I cancelled my 2nd account today. I barely even play my main lately so I figured it's a waste of money. But with these changes I can tell there wont be much point having my main account subbed. Thank god for League of Legends taking up time until something else worth playing comes out.

07-27-2010, 05:58 PM	#386
Hirofortis Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 610	Azlea@Splitpaw wrote: BaronJuJu wrote: Stormflint@Mistmoore wrote: What are our perks for sticking with EQ2Live? I asked the same thing 5 pages ago, along with ohter folks even before that. No response yet. Thats because there arent any. (Apart from if you wait long enough you can have the server to yourself I guess) I would expect it is more that people need to calm down enough for them to be able to post them without it getting buried in a pile. I know they are watching the posts very carefully and are trying to communicate with people. The hard part is peeps keep twisting what they are saying. Hopefully we can get some more info soon.

07-27-2010, 05:59 PM	#387
Aslita Server: Runnyeye Guild: Fate Rank: Fate Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 218	BearClaw wrote: maxpower wrote: Instead of delete my post why not answer my question. It is constructive and on topic. If EQ2 and EQ2X are separate entities, why is there no EQ2 Trial? If there is no way for EQ2X to move to EQ2, how does EQ2 get new players? The trial is still there, its on the recruit a friend program. Once Extended launches, the 14-day trial will no longer be available to the general public. New players can try the Extended free adventure service instead. However, 14-day trial passes for the EQII subscription service will still be distributed by active players on the live subscription service via the Recruit-a-Friend program. This way, friends can play together on the same server and still enjoy free time. The RAF program will be updated at a later point in time to include Extended invitations and rewards. I'm sorry but the trial is not still there. The refer a friend program is different from the trial. I don't have any friends that EQ2 would appeal to so refer a friend is useless in my case. That is why the trial is important, it encourages people who have no prior contact with the game to give it a try. Furthermore it is vitally important on live servers to avoid them suffering a slow death. Please don't say again that it's okay to remove the trial because the refer a friend is still staying. __________________ My decorating: Aslita's Mistmoore Crag Estate NotD Contest Entry Aslita's new New Halas home A Magnificent Maj'Dul Home An Elven Castle The Dimensional Globe Pool A Shadowknight's House Upside Down House The Mirror Maze New Guild Hall Library Fate's Guild Hall Aslita's Magical Manor

07-27-2010, 06:00 PM	#388
Duhana Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 82	...goodbye Norrath.

07-27-2010, 06:00 PM	#389
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	This will DESTROY all of the current servers. If you aren't able to realize that, I dont know how you were able to remain through the recent layoff round that went through since you are obviously clueless. The complete audacity of this shows how you don't really give a darn about your current player base. Congrats on destroying the game I used to love completely. __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

07-27-2010, 06:00 PM	#390
Andu General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 578	There is absolutely no benefit to being on EQLive, other than not having to put up with the 8 year olds milling around in Antonica spamming drivel in the shout channel. Since noone actually goes to Antonica now, that is no benefit either. __________________