The servers can't handle warfields

Omgidomms · 05-31-2010, 01:15 PM

Currently the CL zone has crashed twice in the last 5 min due to warfields pvp..

Can we get some new hamsters or better servers for the clant zones?

It should be possible to make some high-performance servers specially made for warfields that would reduce the lag. Please! SMILEY /hug

Naggasaki · 06-01-2010, 02:05 AM

What completely astounds me is that there is already a mechanic IN PLACE in the coding to alleviate this problem. It just isn't coded, it would seem, to be for the old Shattered Lands zones.

Remember KP1,2,3......9 anyone?

Piccolo · 06-01-2010, 09:38 AM

Or they can stop being cheap and buy new servers. im sure thier severs are a couple years old, and new ones would be a massive upgrade.

Naggasaki · 06-01-2010, 10:00 AM

Actually, I remember that we (nagafen) got a HUGE hardware upgrade right around the release of TSO if I recall correctly. Supposedly it was a MAJOR overhaul of our hardware. /shrug.

sdaigneault · 06-01-2010, 11:22 AM

From the tiny bit I know about this stuff, I'm wondering if it's actual bandwidth out vs. server capacity. Servers aren't expensive, but a larger pipe out to the internet is.

Edavi · 06-01-2010, 11:41 AM

Naggasaki@Nagafen wrote:

Actually, I remember that we (nagafen) got a HUGE hardware upgrade right around the release of TSO if I recall correctly. Supposedly it was a MAJOR overhaul of our hardware. /shrug.

I will believe it when I see it...

Omgidomms · 06-01-2010, 06:20 PM

Does any devs actually play warfields on nagafen at prime time? ignore the lag, ignore that some goes ld, but please don't ignore that the zones goes ld on us!

Obadiah · 06-01-2010, 06:24 PM

Naggasaki@Nagafen wrote:

What completely astounds me is that there is already a mechanic IN PLACE in the coding to alleviate this problem. It just isn't coded, it would seem, to be for the old Shattered Lands zones.
Remember KP1,2,3......9 anyone?

That really wouldn't work for WF the way they are though. Outnumbered in Antonica 1? Sod it!

"Everyone jump over to Ant 2 and let's burn Qeynos to the ground!"

IMO it HAS to be in one instance. If it's purely a # of players deal though then just cap it.

"Sorry, CL is closed right now, Moose outside should've told you."

Personally I'd rather not be able to get into the zone at all because I was late than be in the zone for the full duration and get jack squat because the server crashed as has happened every single time I've been on the offensive team.

Omgidomms · 06-01-2010, 07:17 PM

Kurgan: The crashing is a feature, not a bug.

Sprin · 06-01-2010, 07:49 PM

LOL, antonica took until the last 3 minues of the round, 2 hours later, CL took less then 30 seconds from the red text on the screen to crashing... let me point something out to soe..

your servers are:

FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL

Sprin · 06-01-2010, 07:56 PM

Update Notes:

PVP WARFIELDSA new spell effect will now let you know if you will be rewarded for participation in the Warfields. · You gain the effect by reporting to one of the towers during the event.· The effect will cease being distributed 2 minutes prior to when the event timer ends. Additional detriments have been added to the Tower Guardian defense shields that affect those under level 9.

What we were told would be update:

(PvP) Warfields

Antonica and Commonlands have had their population count reduced and a new instance will spawn once the number is reached.
The new instance will also start the timer for a Warfield in that zone.
A new spell effect will now let you know if you will be rewarded for participation in the Warfields.
You gain the effect by reporting to one of the towers during the event.
The effect will cease being distributed 2 minutes prior the event timer ends.
Additional detriments have been added to the Tower Guardian defense shields that affect those under level 9.
Towers will now display correctly in each zone regardless of distance and setting.

So what we are seeing is that they had plans to make things better but those went on the back burner, probably to use manpower to make some more Station Cash items to shove down our throats...

Point is server cant handle it, map cant handle it, see my above post regarding the warfields and SOE in general TBH...

Proud_Silence · 06-01-2010, 08:14 PM

What's super annoying as well is that right now it's basically free 15tokens for Qeynos everytime a WF is up, UNLESS a handful of FP actually stands in the way of the zerging Q's, leading to a zonecrash.

usually Sony is super fast on shutting down exploitable events. Why is Qeynos still allowed to flood CL with 150 people ? it's not even remotely playable, it's just "here, take 15 tokens for being a zerg", WF after WF. when you actually "fix" the problem, by either providing servers that are better then your Atari you use right now, or by limiting people count per zone, Qeynos will have dozens if not hundreds of tokens piled up already.

Further more it's mind numbing how Rothgar acts all surprised saying he thinks the lag "might" be caused by the number of players in zone rather then the WF event. Give me a F**** break !!! this has been happening for the last years !! how is this surprising ?? you couldn't anticipate the lag when coming up with the idea ? So much fail....

Sprin · 06-01-2010, 10:14 PM

Proud_Silence wrote:

What's super annoying as well is that right now it's basically free 15tokens for Qeynos everytime a WF is up, UNLESS a handful of FP actually stands in the way of the zerging Q's, leading to a zonecrash.
usually Sony is super fast on shutting down exploitable events. Why is Qeynos still allowed to flood CL with 150 people ? it's not even remotely playable, it's just "here, take 15 tokens for being a zerg", WF after WF. when you actually "fix" the problem, by either providing servers that are better then your Atari you use right now, or by limiting people count per zone, Qeynos will have dozens if not hundreds of tokens piled up already.
Further more it's mind numbing how Rothgar acts all surprised saying he thinks the lag "might" be caused by the number of players in zone rather then the WF event. Give me a F**** break !!! this has been happening for the last years !! how is this surprising ?? you couldn't anticipate the lag when coming up with the idea ? So much fail....

I think you need to look into your own faction for answers on this one... the fact is that most freeps like to play lowbies and leech in Sinking sands.... all of which can do ZERO to stop the Q's from killing guards..... the T9's out there dont seem to come out more then once a day if that... i guess they are scared to lose fame? not quite sure, but when freeporters come out, they can do some damage, problem is, most of them nowadays are leeching lowbies or frightened kitty cats scuuured for a fight...

dunno, ask in channels why freeps get slaughtered on their home turf as well as in Antonica...

Kiara · 06-01-2010, 10:17 PM

We don't need a dozen threads about the same thing.

Warfields (PVP Server Only)

Send it all to one thread, if you please.

05-31-2010, 01:15 PM	#1
Omgidomms Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 132	Currently the CL zone has crashed twice in the last 5 min due to warfields pvp.. Can we get some new hamsters or better servers for the clant zones? It should be possible to make some high-performance servers specially made for warfields that would reduce the lag. Please! /hug

06-01-2010, 11:41 AM	#6
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	Naggasaki@Nagafen wrote: Actually, I remember that we (nagafen) got a HUGE hardware upgrade right around the release of TSO if I recall correctly. Supposedly it was a MAJOR overhaul of our hardware. /shrug. I will believe it when I see it... __________________

06-01-2010, 06:24 PM	#8
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Naggasaki@Nagafen wrote: What completely astounds me is that there is already a mechanic IN PLACE in the coding to alleviate this problem. It just isn't coded, it would seem, to be for the old Shattered Lands zones. Remember KP1,2,3......9 anyone? That really wouldn't work for WF the way they are though. Outnumbered in Antonica 1? Sod it! "Everyone jump over to Ant 2 and let's burn Qeynos to the ground!" IMO it HAS to be in one instance. If it's purely a # of players deal though then just cap it. "Sorry, CL is closed right now, Moose outside should've told you." Personally I'd rather not be able to get into the zone at all because I was late than be in the zone for the full duration and get jack squat because the server crashed as has happened every single time I've been on the offensive team. __________________

06-01-2010, 07:56 PM	#11
Sprin Server: Nagafen Guild: L U S H Rank: LUSH (Supreme Drinker!) General Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,364	Update Notes: PVP WARFIELDSA new spell effect will now let you know if you will be rewarded for participation in the Warfields. · You gain the effect by reporting to one of the towers during the event.· The effect will cease being distributed 2 minutes prior to when the event timer ends. Additional detriments have been added to the Tower Guardian defense shields that affect those under level 9. What we were told would be update: (PvP) Warfields Antonica and Commonlands have had their population count reduced and a new instance will spawn once the number is reached. The new instance will also start the timer for a Warfield in that zone. A new spell effect will now let you know if you will be rewarded for participation in the Warfields. You gain the effect by reporting to one of the towers during the event. The effect will cease being distributed 2 minutes prior the event timer ends. Additional detriments have been added to the Tower Guardian defense shields that affect those under level 9. Towers will now display correctly in each zone regardless of distance and setting. So what we are seeing is that they had plans to make things better but those went on the back burner, probably to use manpower to make some more Station Cash items to shove down our throats... Point is server cant handle it, map cant handle it, see my above post regarding the warfields and SOE in general TBH...

06-01-2010, 10:14 PM	#13
Sprin Server: Nagafen Guild: L U S H Rank: LUSH (Supreme Drinker!) General Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,364	Proud_Silence wrote: What's super annoying as well is that right now it's basically free 15tokens for Qeynos everytime a WF is up, UNLESS a handful of FP actually stands in the way of the zerging Q's, leading to a zonecrash. usually Sony is super fast on shutting down exploitable events. Why is Qeynos still allowed to flood CL with 150 people ? it's not even remotely playable, it's just "here, take 15 tokens for being a zerg", WF after WF. when you actually "fix" the problem, by either providing servers that are better then your Atari you use right now, or by limiting people count per zone, Qeynos will have dozens if not hundreds of tokens piled up already. Further more it's mind numbing how Rothgar acts all surprised saying he thinks the lag "might" be caused by the number of players in zone rather then the WF event. Give me a F**** break !!! this has been happening for the last years !! how is this surprising ?? you couldn't anticipate the lag when coming up with the idea ? So much fail.... I think you need to look into your own faction for answers on this one... the fact is that most freeps like to play lowbies and leech in Sinking sands.... all of which can do ZERO to stop the Q's from killing guards..... the T9's out there dont seem to come out more then once a day if that... i guess they are scared to lose fame? not quite sure, but when freeporters come out, they can do some damage, problem is, most of them nowadays are leeching lowbies or frightened kitty cats scuuured for a fight... dunno, ask in channels why freeps get slaughtered on their home turf as well as in Antonica...

06-01-2010, 02:05 AM	#2
Naggasaki Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: King Scapegoat Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 247	What completely astounds me is that there is already a mechanic IN PLACE in the coding to alleviate this problem. It just isn't coded, it would seem, to be for the old Shattered Lands zones. Remember KP1,2,3......9 anyone?

06-01-2010, 09:38 AM	#3
Piccolo Server: Everfrost Guild: Campaign of Light Rank: Senior Member Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 287	Or they can stop being cheap and buy new servers. im sure thier severs are a couple years old, and new ones would be a massive upgrade.

06-01-2010, 10:00 AM	#4
Naggasaki Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: King Scapegoat Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 247	Actually, I remember that we (nagafen) got a HUGE hardware upgrade right around the release of TSO if I recall correctly. Supposedly it was a MAJOR overhaul of our hardware. /shrug.

06-01-2010, 11:22 AM	#5
sdaigneault Lord Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 56	From the tiny bit I know about this stuff, I'm wondering if it's actual bandwidth out vs. server capacity. Servers aren't expensive, but a larger pipe out to the internet is.

06-01-2010, 06:20 PM	#7
Omgidomms Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 132	Does any devs actually play warfields on nagafen at prime time? ignore the lag, ignore that some goes ld, but please don't ignore that the zones goes ld on us!

06-01-2010, 07:17 PM	#9
Omgidomms Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 132	Kurgan: The crashing is a feature, not a bug.

06-01-2010, 07:49 PM	#10
Sprin Server: Nagafen Guild: L U S H Rank: LUSH (Supreme Drinker!) General Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,364	LOL, antonica took until the last 3 minues of the round, 2 hours later, CL took less then 30 seconds from the red text on the screen to crashing... let me point something out to soe.. your servers are: FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL

06-01-2010, 08:14 PM	#12
Proud_Silence Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 342	What's super annoying as well is that right now it's basically free 15tokens for Qeynos everytime a WF is up, UNLESS a handful of FP actually stands in the way of the zerging Q's, leading to a zonecrash. usually Sony is super fast on shutting down exploitable events. Why is Qeynos still allowed to flood CL with 150 people ? it's not even remotely playable, it's just "here, take 15 tokens for being a zerg", WF after WF. when you actually "fix" the problem, by either providing servers that are better then your Atari you use right now, or by limiting people count per zone, Qeynos will have dozens if not hundreds of tokens piled up already. Further more it's mind numbing how Rothgar acts all surprised saying he thinks the lag "might" be caused by the number of players in zone rather then the WF event. Give me a F**** break !!! this has been happening for the last years !! how is this surprising ?? you couldn't anticipate the lag when coming up with the idea ? So much fail....

06-01-2010, 10:17 PM	#14
Kiara Community Relations Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,359	We don't need a dozen threads about the same thing. Warfields (PVP Server Only) Send it all to one thread, if you please.