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[Cantor]

Please, fix it.

[Draag]

maybe your team wouldn't be loosing if you were more worried about killing and capping and less worried about afk policing

[StaticLex]

lol Yeah what does the OP care.  The AFKer isn't on his team and he's STILL losing.

[Draag]

can you vote people on the other team afk?  =P

[Araktir]

The OP has the right mindset, the rest of you clearly don't.

You're basically saying, who cares about cheaters, let em do it!

I'd be all over voting people on the other team if possible.

And who is to say he didn't just pass by that person, and notice they were hanging. 

If more people weren't lazy/cheating SOB's, well, you'd have no one to b_tch at.  So I suppose that is your incentive!

[Cantor]

Draagun wrote:

maybe your team wouldn't be loosing if you were more worried about killing and capping and less worried about afk policing

Oh, Draagun, I'm really sorry. This was your hidding spot too? Oh, man. I'm so sorry.

[Draag]

I play a necro.. you would never know if i were afk or not...

and on another note.. who cares if anybody is afk?  Smugglers is random, stupid, too long. unfun.. i dont blame anyone for going afk on that map.. ever.

[Cantor]

Draagun wrote:

i dont blame anyone for going afk on that map.. ever.

Then don't do it. But, at least, don't bother people who wanna play this map.

[Draag]

Why are you trying to tell people how to play (or not play)?  This guy wasn't even on your team.

Maybe his team knew he was afk.  Who cares?

Would it make you feel better if he were AFK on top of center and he told his team he was gone? 

Why do you feel like it is YOUR personal responsibility to find and report the AFKs instead of playing the game??

Is there a vote function for that? You weren't helping your team, and your team was losing.. you were off taking screenshots while your team was losing!   To bad they don't have a function to vote off non-contributors.. LIKE YOU.

[Cantor]

Draagun wrote:

Why are you trying to tell people how to play (or not play)?  This guy wasn't even on your team.

Maybe his team knew he was afk.  Who cares?

Would it make you feel better if he were AFK on top of center and he told his team he was gone? 

Why do you feel like it is YOUR personal responsibility to find and report the AFKs instead of playing the game??

Is there a vote function for that? You weren't helping your team, and your team was losing.. you were off taking screenshots while your team was losing!   To bad they don't have a function to vote off non-contributors.. LIKE YOU.

/yawn

[StaticLex]

Cantor@Nagafen wrote:

Draagun wrote:

i dont blame anyone for going afk on that map.. ever.

Then don't do it. But, at least, don't bother people who wanna play this map.

Tell SOE to add a token exhange to the game then.  It's not my fault they arbitrarily make some items cost bottles..

[Cantor]

StaticLex wrote:

Cantor@Nagafen wrote:

Draagun wrote:

i dont blame anyone for going afk on that map.. ever.

Then don't do it. But, at least, don't bother people who wanna play this map.

Tell SOE to add a token exhange to the game then.  It's not my fault they arbitrarily make some items cost bottles..

Yes, of course. And I'll write your boss and I tell him that you don't wanna go to work but you want all your money. Please, tell me more things that aren't your fault and i'll try to fix it.

[NicolasKL]

Draagun wrote:

Why are you trying to tell people how to play (or not play)?  This guy wasn't even on your team.

Maybe his team knew he was afk.  Who cares?

Would it make you feel better if he were AFK on top of center and he told his team he was gone? 

Why do you feel like it is YOUR personal responsibility to find and report the AFKs instead of playing the game??

Is there a vote function for that? You weren't helping your team, and your team was losing.. you were off taking screenshots while your team was losing!   To bad they don't have a function to vote off non-contributors.. LIKE YOU.

You're a joke dude.  Your argument is pathetic.  AFK people effect MY GAMEPLAY.  That's what gives me the right to "tell people how to play."  You can do whatever the hell you want but the second it effects the game play OF OTHERS then you don't have any right.  It's griefing or exploiting, whichever you want to call it, plain and simple.

[Dekedar]

Actually, if he isn't on your team, he is in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

[Roofhoppers]

NicolasKL wrote:

Draagun wrote:

Why are you trying to tell people how to play (or not play)?  This guy wasn't even on your team.

Maybe his team knew he was afk.  Who cares?

Would it make you feel better if he were AFK on top of center and he told his team he was gone? 

Why do you feel like it is YOUR personal responsibility to find and report the AFKs instead of playing the game??

Is there a vote function for that? You weren't helping your team, and your team was losing.. you were off taking screenshots while your team was losing!   To bad they don't have a function to vote off non-contributors.. LIKE YOU.

You're a joke dude.  Your argument is pathetic.  AFK people effect MY GAMEPLAY.  That's what gives me the right to "tell people how to play."  You can do whatever the hell you want but the second it effects the game play OF OTHERS then you don't have any right.  It's griefing or exploiting, whichever you want to call it, plain and simple.

So, because he's effecting your gameplay it's wrong? Guess what, he pays to play this game just like you do. Get over yourself, your as bad as the social rejects that sue other people because they "offended" them. Get over yourself.

[Trawe]

Gunthore@Butcherblock wrote:

Actually, if he isn't on your team, he is in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

if im duping plat i am in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

[XustinuS]

Strange most saying Smuggler's boring bla bla...  That was actually wht i tought at first whn it came out. It's completely the opposite now. U r able to go in further ways and free to try different waypoints and tactics.

[Uskeab]

sounds like you offended a bunch of BG AFKers that double as forum trolls.

[Cantor]

Uskeab@Nagafen wrote:

sounds like you offended a bunch of BG AFKers that double as forum trolls.

lol, yes. I'm sure it was his hiding spot

[Dekedar]

Trawe wrote:

Gunthore@Butcherblock wrote:

Actually, if he isn't on your team, he is in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

if im duping plat i am in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

You're coming off as a narrow-minded and incapabale of seeing the big picture. My example is true while yours is not well thought out and not true at all. First of all, you are no doubt going to use the duped plat to purchase things right? Market inflation anyone? Yeah.

Secondly, duping plat would be directly cheating. You can call afking in a BG match cheating, but it's not. People usually cheat to win, not to lose, afker's don't generally care either way. I already know you'll argue this point, so let me ask you a quick question to solidify my point. Is duping plat viloating the TOS, yes or no? Same question for afking in a BG match.

Do not qoute me without directly answering that question.

[Cantor]

Gunthore@Butcherblock wrote:

Trawe wrote:

Gunthore@Butcherblock wrote:

Actually, if he isn't on your team, he is in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

if im duping plat i am in no way negatively affecting your gameplay.

You're coming off as a narrow-minded and incapabale of seeing the big picture. My example is true while yours is not well thought out and not true at all. First of all, you are no doubt going to use the duped plat to purchase things right? Market inflation anyone? Yeah.

Secondly, duping plat would be directly cheating. You can call afking in a BG match cheating, but it's not. People usually cheat to win, not to lose, afker's don't generally care either way. I already know you'll argue this point, so let me ask you a quick question to solidify my point. Is duping plat viloating the TOS, yes or no? Same question for afking in a BG match.

Do not qoute me without directly answering that question.

I saw this a couple of times. First guy, a coercer, was on my team. So yes, affects my gameplay.

[Draag]

who needs an afk spot? I just let my 4 year old play... or my puppy... whichever one isnt doing anything when i need smugs.

[Ballads]

Roofhoppers@Oasis wrote:

NicolasKL wrote:

Draagun wrote:

Why are you trying to tell people how to play (or not play)?  This guy wasn't even on your team.

Maybe his team knew he was afk.  Who cares?

Would it make you feel better if he were AFK on top of center and he told his team he was gone? 

Why do you feel like it is YOUR personal responsibility to find and report the AFKs instead of playing the game??

Is there a vote function for that? You weren't helping your team, and your team was losing.. you were off taking screenshots while your team was losing!   To bad they don't have a function to vote off non-contributors.. LIKE YOU.

You're a joke dude.  Your argument is pathetic.  AFK people effect MY GAMEPLAY.  That's what gives me the right to "tell people how to play."  You can do whatever the hell you want but the second it effects the game play OF OTHERS then you don't have any right.  It's griefing or exploiting, whichever you want to call it, plain and simple.

So, because he's effecting your gameplay it's wrong? Guess what, he pays to play this game just like you do. Get over yourself, your as bad as the social rejects that sue other people because they "offended" them. Get over yourself.

No because afking BG's is exploiting tokens no more no less. What if the person was just duping BG items would that not matter either?  I earned ever token i got and no im not happy about people getting them for 0 effort. Imo SoE needs to take vote kicking to a higher lvl, shouldn't just kick them from that BG but give them a buff like the heretic buff did for avatars, 24 hours of logged in time till you can Que up again.

[Draag]

Yeah, 0 effort.. What about 10% effort?  Can you vote somebody for only giving .5% effort?  When I play smugglers, I give about .1% effort.  Why? Because it is random stupidness.  What I do matters not.  I am a crap class and always PUG.  I can make a slight difference ganak and klak.. so I give more effort.

Smug is a random win or loss.  Even if I were an integral class, the odds of me personally being able to make a difference go way way down.

I don't care about people AFK on my team because I understand that the other team probably has AKFs too..

This is my problem with SMUGGLERS.. its ALL RANDOM.(and stupid)

IT is stupid easy to get around the AFK kicks.. people do it all the time.  I have seen people in trees, on the cliff, in the tower, shoot.. I go afk all the time while "defending" the center tower.  I have a distinct fondness for sandwiches, and running around for 20mins. going from tower to tower is not conducive to sandwich eating.

I put forth so little effort on smug, I might as well be afk - and I don't blame anybody else for doing the same.  - and tbh even if I did "try" my class is so f'd up, it wouldn't make a bit of difference anyway.  So you can get mad at this person for being AFK all you want, but the truth of the matter was, even if he was playing, he probably wouldnt care anyway (like me) hence make no difference to the game.

So again.. what difference does it make other than making yourself feel better by putting some other shmoe through the same lame, boring, stupid torture that you have to go through to get your 1 or 3 tokens?

*edit* maybe if we ALL go AFK on their stupid map, they will see how many people hate it and give us a token exchange.  I wouldnt mind if  half my team was afk.. at. all.

[Harbringer Doom]

I see some really well played necros in Battlegrounds.

Ever think the problem with your class might be you?

PEBKAC?

[Ballads]

Smugglers isnt random lol. L2P. Its people liek you and AFkers who make it seem random.

[Harbringer Doom]

Gunthore@Butcherblock wrote:

Secondly, duping plat would be directly cheating. You can call afking in a BG match cheating, but it's not. People usually cheat to win, not to lose, afker's don't generally care either way. I already know you'll argue this point, so let me ask you a quick question to solidify my point. Is duping plat viloating the TOS, yes or no? Same question for afking in a BG match.

Do not qoute me without directly answering that question.

Rothgar has made it pretty clear in his posts on the matter that AFKing for Battlegrounds tokens is "cheating" or "exploiting" and is certainly behavior they are working towards eliminating.

Your point is so very far from unsolidified.

[Draag]

Smug PUG IS a 100% random win/loss.  Don't belive me?  Do 100 games giving it your all, Do 100 more not doing anything... see what a big difference in tokens you get at the end.

As for me "not being able to play my class" - How many posts are devoted to broken summoners?

Don't let logic and facts get in the way though.. keep raging at the AFKers .. that makes way more sense.

*edit* no matter how many fixes they put in to "get them afkers" it isnt going to matter.. ever.  How are they gonna stop people from letting their kids play?  How are they gonna stop the macro guys (which they have never been able to do in the real game)?  So, best not let it bother you, realize its part of the game, and go on about your day.  And when your team is down near the end of the match, maybe you should be doing someting to help instead of taking screenshots and screaming "VOTE THIS GUY AFK!!"... after all, once you start doing that, you are pretty much the same as the AFK guy.. worthless.

[Blambil]

Smugglers is bar far the worst of the 3...  next to impossible to get 24 random people to follow a leader, especially when they are behind.. least favorite map by far.

[Dekedar]

Horknut@Nagafen wrote:

Rothgar has made it pretty clear in his posts on the matter that AFKing for Battlegrounds tokens is "cheating" or "exploiting" and is certainly behavior they are working towards eliminating.

Your point is so very far from unsolidified.

Not that I don't want to take your word, but link?