A No Contest Battleground

Kyaaadaa · 05-22-2010, 05:31 AM

I, like many others, play BGs on a fairly common basis. And I, like many others, have seen that there are three types of matches: a hard fought epic battle, where the match can go either way. Another is the semi-decent, one side put up a good fight, but it just wasn't meant to be, match.

But the last, and the topic for the post, is the complete stomping of the other team in which its obvious that one side is greatly dominating the match.

I believe, and back me up if you think this is true too, that sitting at your revive point because as soon as you leave you die, therefore you wait until the match to be over, is one of the biggest wastes of time. Thusly, I would like to see a "No Contest" feature added, where in once a point buffer has been passed (something like 350+ points in Klak, for example) between the teams, the other team can call a no contest, ending the match, and any future misery of it.

If you think its apropos, agree, if not, try not to slam it face first on the flamecore table of face palming.

Seiffil · 05-22-2010, 05:49 AM

The only issue is it makes it even easier for people who only care about zoning in to earn tokens to just give up or still go in with no intention to really be worthwhile, since instead of having to wait for 700 points to be scored, they can just wait til that margin is obtained and get right back in queue to go again.

Removing tokens for people claiming the no contest option would be one thing, but then they'd just afk at spawn for the entire match, so that wouldn't solve the basic issue anyways.

While I understand what you're saying, the basic fault with the system is that SOE is giving anything to the losing team. This would just make them quit faster. It won't solve the major problem of what I see with people who zone in, ridiculously undergeared, completely inept at playing their class, or even those who just zone in and run around mindlessly, cause they just want to snag a few tokens and AA for doing nothing.

EDIT: There are some matches where yes, a team is just ridiculously overmatched. There are those where if most of the people actually cared to try, they could pull off a win, but since they can still just get AA and tokens by losing, why bother, it's the matches that fit the 2nd set that bother me the most.

Crismorn · 05-22-2010, 06:09 AM

I would like to see people get pushed down from the spawn point in gears after ~5 seconds.

Darkor · 05-22-2010, 09:56 AM

I have to disagree with your idea. While i can understand the frustration when being in a sucky grp (ive had that pleasure aswell) there are still quests that ask you for kills. If people could give up matches, it would take way longer to complete the kill quests and that would force people to NOT take the flag/gear and stuff like that.

FrostDragon · 05-22-2010, 07:18 PM

No contest does make sence when 1 to 3 groups is all premade and just wipes every match for the whole nite. its no longer playing for tokens its playing to drag it out for everyone else so no one can catch up to them. they don't need more tokens they are playing to keep everyone else from getting them. its game of control. we even have threads begging to switch tokens around they have so many...

imakee · 05-23-2010, 08:28 AM

I agree with the original post.

Armawk · 05-23-2010, 08:46 AM

Kyaaadaa@Nagafen wrote:

I believe, and back me up if you think this is true too, that sitting at your revive point because as soon as you leave you die, therefore you wait until the match to be over, is one of the biggest wastes of time.

Yes, I do think that if you do that then the game should detect that you did and boot you to make room for someone who will give it a go regardless. I doubt that is the answer you were looking for though.

Naggasaki · 05-23-2010, 08:55 AM

To be honest, if you are that 'out matched' just keep throwing bodies on the fire. The faster they rack up kills, the faster the match will end.

Macross_JR · 05-23-2010, 11:35 PM

Yeah, I don't know about that.....I've seen a vid of a team coming back from 694-2 to actually winning in klak. It was crazy to watch.

05-22-2010, 05:31 AM	#1
Kyaaadaa Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: Officer Seer Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 69	I, like many others, play BGs on a fairly common basis. And I, like many others, have seen that there are three types of matches: a hard fought epic battle, where the match can go either way. Another is the semi-decent, one side put up a good fight, but it just wasn't meant to be, match. But the last, and the topic for the post, is the complete stomping of the other team in which its obvious that one side is greatly dominating the match. I believe, and back me up if you think this is true too, that sitting at your revive point because as soon as you leave you die, therefore you wait until the match to be over, is one of the biggest wastes of time. Thusly, I would like to see a "No Contest" feature added, where in once a point buffer has been passed (something like 350+ points in Klak, for example) between the teams, the other team can call a no contest, ending the match, and any future misery of it. If you think its apropos, agree, if not, try not to slam it face first on the flamecore table of face palming. __________________

05-22-2010, 09:56 AM	#4
Darkor Server: Nagafen Guild: Nexus Rank: Ancient and Mummified Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 1,957	I have to disagree with your idea. While i can understand the frustration when being in a sucky grp (ive had that pleasure aswell) there are still quests that ask you for kills. If people could give up matches, it would take way longer to complete the kill quests and that would force people to NOT take the flag/gear and stuff like that. __________________ Steal 90 Assassin Darkor 90 Swashbuckler Daerkin 90 Shadowknight Daerkor 90 Templar Ajjantis 90 Warden Melodic 90 Dirge Dayo 90 Monk Rasiel 88 Conjuror Razyeel 70 Wizard Biyon 65 Beastlord

05-23-2010, 08:28 AM	#6
imakee Tester Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 78	I agree with the original post. __________________ ~Osen Surhito Fhir Rhuen Test Server

05-23-2010, 08:46 AM	#7
Armawk Server: Everfrost Guild: Nos Es Rutilus Rank: Tirones Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,240	Kyaaadaa@Nagafen wrote: I believe, and back me up if you think this is true too, that sitting at your revive point because as soon as you leave you die, therefore you wait until the match to be over, is one of the biggest wastes of time. Yes, I do think that if you do that then the game should detect that you did and boot you to make room for someone who will give it a go regardless. I doubt that is the answer you were looking for though.

05-23-2010, 11:35 PM	#9
Macross_JR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 547	Yeah, I don't know about that.....I've seen a vid of a team coming back from 694-2 to actually winning in klak. It was crazy to watch. __________________

05-22-2010, 05:49 AM	#2
Seiffil Server: Permafrost Guild: Grievance Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 854	The only issue is it makes it even easier for people who only care about zoning in to earn tokens to just give up or still go in with no intention to really be worthwhile, since instead of having to wait for 700 points to be scored, they can just wait til that margin is obtained and get right back in queue to go again. Removing tokens for people claiming the no contest option would be one thing, but then they'd just afk at spawn for the entire match, so that wouldn't solve the basic issue anyways. While I understand what you're saying, the basic fault with the system is that SOE is giving anything to the losing team. This would just make them quit faster. It won't solve the major problem of what I see with people who zone in, ridiculously undergeared, completely inept at playing their class, or even those who just zone in and run around mindlessly, cause they just want to snag a few tokens and AA for doing nothing. EDIT: There are some matches where yes, a team is just ridiculously overmatched. There are those where if most of the people actually cared to try, they could pull off a win, but since they can still just get AA and tokens by losing, why bother, it's the matches that fit the 2nd set that bother me the most.

05-22-2010, 06:09 AM	#3
Crismorn Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,840	I would like to see people get pushed down from the spawn point in gears after ~5 seconds.

05-22-2010, 07:18 PM	#5
FrostDragon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 153	No contest does make sence when 1 to 3 groups is all premade and just wipes every match for the whole nite. its no longer playing for tokens its playing to drag it out for everyone else so no one can catch up to them. they don't need more tokens they are playing to keep everyone else from getting them. its game of control. we even have threads begging to switch tokens around they have so many...

05-23-2010, 08:55 AM	#8
Naggasaki Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: King Scapegoat Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 247	To be honest, if you are that 'out matched' just keep throwing bodies on the fire. The faster they rack up kills, the faster the match will end.