Blue Adorn confusion

Edavi · 05-06-2010, 09:48 PM

So there is New pvp gear coming out. Okay, fine, it still blows in PVE, whatver I cant do anything about that. But just curious, is it something like... I need to have the t1 boots before i can get the t2 boots? or do the t2 boots just cost more than the t1 boots... I am just trying to figure out if I should buy these legs, or save my tokens til the GU.

Olihin · 05-06-2010, 10:04 PM

The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots.

The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots.

If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.

Olihin

edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

Edavi · 05-06-2010, 10:07 PM

No, I got that.. the question im asking is... Do you need the preseason item to buy the season 1 item? or do the season 1 items just cost more tokens.

I think u may have inadvertanly answered it though

Rocc · 05-06-2010, 10:10 PM

No its not like T1 > T2. Nothing like that. You purchase with tokens all over again. So if you have the "preseason or existing" BG gear then you spent your tokens for nothing. Because blue adornment gear is better and does not require the previous level 90 BG gear to purchase.

In short- STOP SPENDING YOUR TOKENS UNTIL HALAS LAUNCHES!!!!

Tell your guildies and spread the message on your servers.

Edavi · 05-06-2010, 10:25 PM

That is what I was looking for, thank u Rocc

Are tehre blue adorn aka season 1 jewelry and weapons too?

Rijacki · 05-06-2010, 10:50 PM

Olihin wrote:

The pre-season equipment does not have blue adornment slots.
The season 1 equipment does have blue adornment slots.
If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the pre-season item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.
Olihin

Are crafted items considered pre-season and without adornment slots?

Olihin · 05-06-2010, 11:27 PM

The crafted items are about were we want to have them remain for the time being.

In the future we may have a few more available.

Olihin

Jonaroth · 05-06-2010, 11:41 PM

not being able to upgrade is really lame. that's all.

Lodor · 05-06-2010, 11:52 PM

What about adding a lvl 90 version scout shield and fighter 2h weapon. There are level 80 versions on the vendors but not lvl 90 ones.

Edavi · 05-07-2010, 12:00 AM

Is jewelry being upgraded too?

Sydares · 05-07-2010, 12:21 AM

Not having an upgrade vendor is indeed quite lame.

Runelaron · 05-07-2010, 01:44 AM

Olihin wrote:

The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots.
The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots.
If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.
Olihin
edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

My question is, What is the point in keeping the old armor when it only cost 10 more tokens for the new armor. It seems like a waste of vendor space.

Uskeab · 05-07-2010, 03:11 AM

probably so he can go," lewk bossman at all teh l3vvtz they can chews frum, i do gud job , u gimme moar monies?"

Arcanias · 05-07-2010, 10:18 AM

Uskeab@Nagafen wrote:

probably so he can go," lewk bossman at all teh l3vvtz they can chews frum, i do gud job , u gimme moar monies?"

LOL!!! SOE LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE, PROGRESSION GEAR FTW!!! DON'T PUNISH YOUR VETS!!!

Edavi · 05-07-2010, 11:36 AM

Lol, okay, but what about Jewelry?!

Runelaron · 05-09-2010, 02:17 AM

Olihin wrote:

The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots.
The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots.
If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.
Olihin
edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead.

I CANT COMPREHEND HOW THIS MAKES ANY SENSE!? its like not getting the supersize for 1cent more!

Cantor · 05-09-2010, 11:27 AM

Jonaroth wrote:

not being able to upgrade is really lame. that's all.

Yep. Add upgrades, Olihin. No more BGs, please.

Rocc · 05-09-2010, 02:10 PM

Edavi wrote:

Lol, okay, but what about Jewelry?!

Sorry, I have not been watching this thread. Yes there are many new items for all tiers. Weapons at level 90 have no upgrades (that I've seen). But thats not to say there wont be by the time Halas goes live. I would recommend you dont buy the jewelry either until that point. Every time I look on testcopy something else has given a guildy disco experience. So just hold on to your tokens for 2 more weeks!

quetzaqotl · 05-10-2010, 05:58 AM

What a bad decision Olihin how would it make sense for people to buy the considerably less powerful gear for such a small premium?

Dont you think all the people whou bought the now old bg armor wouldve saved up some tokens to get the better gear?

This is really lame indeed.

Would it really take so much effort to add an upgrade path or make it possible to sell your bg armor for tokens at the bg merchant? I mean come on throw us a bone here...

Araktir · 05-10-2010, 06:57 AM

Yet another time sink, thanks SoE.

So, I spent DAYS grinding BGs to get some gear. Now it will be the lesser kind.

As someone else said, let us sell it off for what we paid, at the very least.

Some of us have more than one level 90 to gear up. I don't have the time to spend in BGs needed to acquire it before your next expansion.

Naggasaki · 05-10-2010, 08:55 AM

This just makes me vomit.

Snosael · 05-11-2010, 04:48 PM

the pvp servers are slave conscripts to keep BGs from failure. they knew the only way they could get us in there was to make pvp and bg gear the same. they know the only way to keep us in there is to force us to regrind every few months.

we are fekked, get over it, they dont care.

i think olihin used his soe discont card to buy a Witness protection pack from the station store and had his named changed from Aeralick.

we have been let down big time.

Kota · 05-12-2010, 04:06 AM

should i just save my tokens for the second campaign ? or 3rd ? i mean, if i'm only gonna be sporting this gear for 3 months maybe i'll just hold off on it.

p.s. pl;z just take the current gear off the merchants so ppl don't accidentally buy it and waste their tokens.

Sprin · 05-12-2010, 04:29 AM

Olihin wrote:

The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots.
The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots.
If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.
Olihin
edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

Im sorry, this is epic failure.. so we are goign to have to re-obtain a FULL set of gear every few months? a "first" campaign indicates a "second" and "third" and so on... so by the time we get the new "best" gear, you release "better then the previous best" gear.... and make us sink even more time? This is the most pathetic attempt of a time sink I've EVER seen from SOE... you start maaking updates like this and I GUARANTEE you will lose accounts..... having to obtain new gear every expansion is of course part of the game, we look forward to that... but this blue adorn stuff should have been on THE CURRENT stuff, not a few months later, having to redo everything just to get it..

Let me get this straight.... TSO comes out and PVP gear has set bonuses, the set bonuses, are in most cases junk compared to raid gear... raiders still cry like a bunch of sissies... (I was a raider at that time, and I heard it first hand).... so in SF we get shafted on PVP servers and get no set bonuses... raiders still get them... in the form of red adorns... not to mention red adorns that ARENT set bonuses are far superior... so we get a weak version of the "non set bonus" red adorns in the form of "blue adorns" except we have to get an ENTIRE new set of gear to get these lesser junker adorn slots...

The stats on this new "First campaign" gear are miniscule and not even worth getting cept for the blue adorns slots...

Most of the gear has like 5% higher stats, if that... some of which were unchanged completely... yet you want us to sink another couple of months into getting another full set of gear just to have the chance at having junker adorns?

Epic Failure Ohlin... epic failure...

Its nice to see you dont listen to your player base though.. I have yet to see a single person on PVP server in favor of this garbage time sink....

Owls · 05-12-2010, 06:17 AM

all i wanna know is, if i "waste" 3 hours of my time to get a full set of BG blue adorn gear, will i still parse the same

i mean right now i parse the same dps as moors pvp gear i just have a 2k heal parse

really

pvp used to be about speed

now its about who can force quit the game faster and not lose their plat

when your a monk and you can take a full group, not kill mind you, take the punishment and not die

why is that fun.... look mom i can handle 10 minutes of full hp and then im gonna go and walk the dog, really, where is the BOOOOOMMMMM son, evak

thats fun

its like taking head shots out of counter strike

you can blast someones face with a fission and hit them for 2k of 24k, really?

no offence, but that is garbage(*sorry cookie monster) but i dont like it

Owls · 05-12-2010, 06:20 AM

i dont know if it helps, but seriously, if you are a pvp dev, SMS me and ill go buy you a burger and a cola ill take the 5 dollar hit rather than looking at my 15 dollars fly saying to myself kunark venekor is better than t9 naggy pvp

TheVekk · 05-12-2010, 11:18 AM

the only real reason i can think of as to why they are adding new gear and not giving upgrades is to keep people pvping or doing the BG's. this way you always have something to work for.

Snosael · 05-21-2010, 02:02 PM

Olihin wrote:

The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots.
The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots.
If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have.
Olihin
edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

I have to agree with many ppl posting here. This is very weak. There needs to be a way to upgrade the BG armor everyone already earned. Just like shard armor was upgradeable, so should the BG armor.

also, this First Campaign business...... [Removed for Content]is that??!?! sounds like you slipped up and are letting us know that we can expect to regrind our armor over and over.

I dont appreciate your next smug comment either! who the hell is happy buying the current armor set without blue adornment slots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe some bluebies who want it for appearance, or are you doing this for sony's golden child raiders who cry and cry until they get whatever they want???

Naggasaki · 05-23-2010, 07:13 AM

The addition of this new gear, without an upgrade path, is ultimately going to destroy open world PvP imo. I was very pleased over the course of this last week or so. Many people were out playing again. I ran into some serious skirmishes. Granted, most people were in FULL BG gear. It would seem that once everyone finished getting their gear they came out of their little hovel. But WAIT.....THERE'S MOAR! You're going to steal the entire open world population yet again so they can get 'BETTER' gear.

*edited to be BETTER for lazyness*

At the same time that you are introducing this crap, you are trying to introduce your 'master plan' to bring back open world PvP? Warfeilds may be fun, but I give it a week and most people will be back in BG's doing the 'master afker' game to get free PVP gear. Olihin, if you seriously take pride in your work, I suggest you go smoke a bowl or something and calm down, rethink what you have done, and FIX IT!

Alima_Tunare · 05-23-2010, 02:11 PM

Its just very disappointing. I enjoy pvp, but Im a raider on a blue server and its Our guild, so I dont roll on a red server. Ive spent hours and hours working my toon, learning to pvp with her, adjusting spells and skills to do better. I spent my time being cremated while "they" experimented with us, hoping that one day, once I got my pvp set, Id have a chance. Now I have it, they're still experimenting, Im still grinding my one token at a time for the most part and now they come out with an upgrade that I have to rebuild. Normally I might not mind, upgrading is part of the game, always wanting a bit better. But all this means is Im still the bottom of the barrel in my full set of gear and having to one token it again so that 2 months from now we get to do it all over again....and im still the bottom of the barrel gearwise.

And yes, I am whining. Im not asking for nerfs to classes, you have to learn to deal with the skills classes get, Id much rather be fighting people with their skills than a bunch of people with wiffle bats. I know where to find good pvp, I just dont have the time and money to run two games. I like that this bit of entertainment has been added to the game I invest in. I had just hoped that it would reach the point where I improved and got to play with the stuff I earned for a couple of months. For all the time people have invested in getting this armor, for all the suffering some of them have had to live with in getting it....youd think they could have thrown some blue adorns on the old gear, waited a couple of months and then upgraded.

05-06-2010, 09:48 PM	#1
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	So there is New pvp gear coming out. Okay, fine, it still blows in PVE, whatver I cant do anything about that. But just curious, is it something like... I need to have the t1 boots before i can get the t2 boots? or do the t2 boots just cost more than the t1 boots... I am just trying to figure out if I should buy these legs, or save my tokens til the GU. __________________

05-06-2010, 10:07 PM	#3
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	No, I got that.. the question im asking is... Do you need the preseason item to buy the season 1 item? or do the season 1 items just cost more tokens. I think u may have inadvertanly answered it though __________________

05-06-2010, 10:25 PM	#5
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	That is what I was looking for, thank u Rocc Are tehre blue adorn aka season 1 jewelry and weapons too? __________________

05-06-2010, 10:50 PM	#6
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	Olihin wrote: The pre-season equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The season 1 equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the pre-season item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin Are crafted items considered pre-season and without adornment slots? __________________

05-06-2010, 11:41 PM	#8
Jonaroth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 761	not being able to upgrade is really lame. that's all. __________________

05-06-2010, 10:04 PM	#2
Olihin Developer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 429	The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness!

05-06-2010, 10:10 PM	#4
Rocc Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 705	No its not like T1 > T2. Nothing like that. You purchase with tokens all over again. So if you have the "preseason or existing" BG gear then you spent your tokens for nothing. Because blue adornment gear is better and does not require the previous level 90 BG gear to purchase. In short- STOP SPENDING YOUR TOKENS UNTIL HALAS LAUNCHES!!!! Tell your guildies and spread the message on your servers.

05-06-2010, 11:27 PM	#7
Olihin Developer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 429	The crafted items are about were we want to have them remain for the time being. In the future we may have a few more available. Olihin

05-06-2010, 11:52 PM	#9
Lodor Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 237	What about adding a lvl 90 version scout shield and fighter 2h weapon. There are level 80 versions on the vendors but not lvl 90 ones.

05-07-2010, 12:00 AM	#10
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	Is jewelry being upgraded too? __________________

05-07-2010, 12:21 AM	#11
Sydares Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 700	Not having an upgrade vendor is indeed quite lame.

05-07-2010, 01:44 AM	#12
Runelaron Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 194	Olihin wrote: The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness! My question is, What is the point in keeping the old armor when it only cost 10 more tokens for the new armor. It seems like a waste of vendor space. __________________ "The Storm came and I had no where to hide" - Genghis Khan Rune Nagafen

05-07-2010, 03:11 AM	#13
Uskeab Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 88	probably so he can go," lewk bossman at all teh l3vvtz they can chews frum, i do gud job , u gimme moar monies?"

05-07-2010, 10:18 AM	#14
Arcanias Server: Venekor Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 87	Uskeab@Nagafen wrote: probably so he can go," lewk bossman at all teh l3vvtz they can chews frum, i do gud job , u gimme moar monies?" LOL!!! SOE LISTEN TO YOUR PLAYER BASE, PROGRESSION GEAR FTW!!! DON'T PUNISH YOUR VETS!!! __________________

05-07-2010, 11:36 AM	#15
Edavi Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	Lol, okay, but what about Jewelry?! __________________

05-09-2010, 02:17 AM	#16
Runelaron Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 194	Olihin wrote: The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness! If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. I CANT COMPREHEND HOW THIS MAKES ANY SENSE!? its like not getting the supersize for 1cent more! __________________ "The Storm came and I had no where to hide" - Genghis Khan Rune Nagafen

05-09-2010, 11:27 AM	#17
Cantor Server: Nagafen Guild: El Grup Dels Collonuts Rank: Collonut!!! Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 79	Jonaroth wrote: not being able to upgrade is really lame. that's all. Yep. Add upgrades, Olihin. No more BGs, please.

05-09-2010, 02:10 PM	#18
Rocc Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 705	Edavi wrote: Lol, okay, but what about Jewelry?! Sorry, I have not been watching this thread. Yes there are many new items for all tiers. Weapons at level 90 have no upgrades (that I've seen). But thats not to say there wont be by the time Halas goes live. I would recommend you dont buy the jewelry either until that point. Every time I look on testcopy something else has given a guildy disco experience. So just hold on to your tokens for 2 more weeks!

05-10-2010, 05:58 AM	#19
quetzaqotl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,336	What a bad decision Olihin how would it make sense for people to buy the considerably less powerful gear for such a small premium? Dont you think all the people whou bought the now old bg armor wouldve saved up some tokens to get the better gear? This is really lame indeed. Would it really take so much effort to add an upgrade path or make it possible to sell your bg armor for tokens at the bg merchant? I mean come on throw us a bone here... __________________

05-10-2010, 06:57 AM	#20
Araktir Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Your mom's Posts: 40	Yet another time sink, thanks SoE. So, I spent DAYS grinding BGs to get some gear. Now it will be the lesser kind. As someone else said, let us sell it off for what we paid, at the very least. Some of us have more than one level 90 to gear up. I don't have the time to spend in BGs needed to acquire it before your next expansion. __________________

05-10-2010, 08:55 AM	#21
Naggasaki Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: King Scapegoat Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 247	This just makes me vomit.

05-11-2010, 04:48 PM	#22
Snosael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96	the pvp servers are slave conscripts to keep BGs from failure. they knew the only way they could get us in there was to make pvp and bg gear the same. they know the only way to keep us in there is to force us to regrind every few months. we are fekked, get over it, they dont care. i think olihin used his soe discont card to buy a Witness protection pack from the station store and had his named changed from Aeralick. we have been let down big time.

05-12-2010, 04:06 AM	#23
Kota Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 671	should i just save my tokens for the second campaign ? or 3rd ? i mean, if i'm only gonna be sporting this gear for 3 months maybe i'll just hold off on it. p.s. pl;z just take the current gear off the merchants so ppl don't accidentally buy it and waste their tokens.

05-12-2010, 04:29 AM	#24
Sprin Server: Nagafen Guild: L U S H Rank: LUSH (Supreme Drinker!) General Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,364	Olihin wrote: The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness! Im sorry, this is epic failure.. so we are goign to have to re-obtain a FULL set of gear every few months? a "first" campaign indicates a "second" and "third" and so on... so by the time we get the new "best" gear, you release "better then the previous best" gear.... and make us sink even more time? This is the most pathetic attempt of a time sink I've EVER seen from SOE... you start maaking updates like this and I GUARANTEE you will lose accounts..... having to obtain new gear every expansion is of course part of the game, we look forward to that... but this blue adorn stuff should have been on THE CURRENT stuff, not a few months later, having to redo everything just to get it.. Let me get this straight.... TSO comes out and PVP gear has set bonuses, the set bonuses, are in most cases junk compared to raid gear... raiders still cry like a bunch of sissies... (I was a raider at that time, and I heard it first hand).... so in SF we get shafted on PVP servers and get no set bonuses... raiders still get them... in the form of red adorns... not to mention red adorns that ARENT set bonuses are far superior... so we get a weak version of the "non set bonus" red adorns in the form of "blue adorns" except we have to get an ENTIRE new set of gear to get these lesser junker adorn slots... The stats on this new "First campaign" gear are miniscule and not even worth getting cept for the blue adorns slots... Most of the gear has like 5% higher stats, if that... some of which were unchanged completely... yet you want us to sink another couple of months into getting another full set of gear just to have the chance at having junker adorns? Epic Failure Ohlin... epic failure... Its nice to see you dont listen to your player base though.. I have yet to see a single person on PVP server in favor of this garbage time sink....

05-12-2010, 06:17 AM	#25
Owls Seer Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 15	all i wanna know is, if i "waste" 3 hours of my time to get a full set of BG blue adorn gear, will i still parse the same i mean right now i parse the same dps as moors pvp gear i just have a 2k heal parse really pvp used to be about speed now its about who can force quit the game faster and not lose their plat when your a monk and you can take a full group, not kill mind you, take the punishment and not die why is that fun.... look mom i can handle 10 minutes of full hp and then im gonna go and walk the dog, really, where is the BOOOOOMMMMM son, evak thats fun its like taking head shots out of counter strike you can blast someones face with a fission and hit them for 2k of 24k, really? no offence, but that is garbage(*sorry cookie monster) but i dont like it

05-12-2010, 06:20 AM	#26
Owls Seer Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 15	i dont know if it helps, but seriously, if you are a pvp dev, SMS me and ill go buy you a burger and a cola ill take the 5 dollar hit rather than looking at my 15 dollars fly saying to myself kunark venekor is better than t9 naggy pvp

05-12-2010, 11:18 AM	#27
TheVekk Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 267	the only real reason i can think of as to why they are adding new gear and not giving upgrades is to keep people pvping or doing the BG's. this way you always have something to work for. __________________

05-21-2010, 02:02 PM	#28
Snosael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96	Olihin wrote: The current equipment does not have blue adornment slots. The first campaign equipment does have blue adornment slots. If you wish to use the blue adornments, you will want to purchase the new items. If you are happy without any of the blue adornments, then you can purchase the current item instead. In both cases, the TEST-Copy vendors are available for you to see how to budget the tokens you have. Olihin edit: Now called campaigns for awesomeness! I have to agree with many ppl posting here. This is very weak. There needs to be a way to upgrade the BG armor everyone already earned. Just like shard armor was upgradeable, so should the BG armor. also, this First Campaign business...... [Removed for Content]is that??!?! sounds like you slipped up and are letting us know that we can expect to regrind our armor over and over. I dont appreciate your next smug comment either! who the hell is happy buying the current armor set without blue adornment slots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe some bluebies who want it for appearance, or are you doing this for sony's golden child raiders who cry and cry until they get whatever they want???

05-23-2010, 07:13 AM	#29
Naggasaki Server: Nagafen Guild: Disenchanted Rank: King Scapegoat Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 247	The addition of this new gear, without an upgrade path, is ultimately going to destroy open world PvP imo. I was very pleased over the course of this last week or so. Many people were out playing again. I ran into some serious skirmishes. Granted, most people were in FULL BG gear. It would seem that once everyone finished getting their gear they came out of their little hovel. But WAIT.....THERE'S MOAR! You're going to steal the entire open world population yet again so they can get 'BETTER' gear. edited to be BETTER* for lazyness* At the same time that you are introducing this crap, you are trying to introduce your 'master plan' to bring back open world PvP? Warfeilds may be fun, but I give it a week and most people will be back in BG's doing the 'master afker' game to get free PVP gear. Olihin, if you seriously take pride in your work, I suggest you go smoke a bowl or something and calm down, rethink what you have done, and FIX IT!

05-23-2010, 02:11 PM	#30
Alima_Tunare Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 43	Its just very disappointing. I enjoy pvp, but Im a raider on a blue server and its Our guild, so I dont roll on a red server. Ive spent hours and hours working my toon, learning to pvp with her, adjusting spells and skills to do better. I spent my time being cremated while "they" experimented with us, hoping that one day, once I got my pvp set, Id have a chance. Now I have it, they're still experimenting, Im still grinding my one token at a time for the most part and now they come out with an upgrade that I have to rebuild. Normally I might not mind, upgrading is part of the game, always wanting a bit better. But all this means is Im still the bottom of the barrel in my full set of gear and having to one token it again so that 2 months from now we get to do it all over again....and im still the bottom of the barrel gearwise. And yes, I am whining. Im not asking for nerfs to classes, you have to learn to deal with the skills classes get, Id much rather be fighting people with their skills than a bunch of people with wiffle bats. I know where to find good pvp, I just dont have the time and money to run two games. I like that this bit of entertainment has been added to the game I invest in. I had just hoped that it would reach the point where I improved and got to play with the stuff I earned for a couple of months. For all the time people have invested in getting this armor, for all the suffering some of them have had to live with in getting it....youd think they could have thrown some blue adorns on the old gear, waited a couple of months and then upgraded.