easy class to learn to tank with?

[select20]

Just curious if that exists in this game. I've lvl'd a necro to lvl32, solo the whole time as was my plan to have a solo toon and a mostly grouping toon. I'm wondering if any of the fighter classes have an easier "tank" learning curve than another? I tanked in WoW for 3 years but that required a whole 5-6 buttons max to do well. In this game there are alot more obviously and I don't want to be a complete fail my first time tanking here.

Sorry to [Removed for Content] anyone off for the noob question, and thanks to those who have patience with it.

[Rahatmattata]

They are all pretty easy to learn to tank with, but monk or bruiser is probably the hardest. The main things are learning how to pull, targetting, and keeping things rolling even when you don't know where to go. Group often while you level up and you will figure out what your abilities do and when to use them.

[select20]

Ok cool, so no brawlers. Another noob quetsion inc, hide you eyes.....

so between plate classes i was look at a SK, Pally or Zerk. Can I go wrong with any of those? Or should I pick one over the other? Do healers prefer one of these over another?

[Kota]

you may as well play an sk. seems they are still the best at everything.

[Landiin]

SK hands down. IMO eazy to tank with.SK---->Pally----------------------------------->Zerker--->Guard----------->Brawler class.

[Rahatmattata]

select20 wrote:

Ok cool, so no brawlers. Another noob quetsion inc, hide you eyes.....

so between plate classes i was look at a SK, Pally or Zerk. Can I go wrong with any of those? Or should I pick one over the other? Do healers prefer one of these over another?

Paladin is probably the easiest to heal. They have the most survivability besides maybe guardian. Shadowknights are pretty beast all around... but there are a sht ton of them; it's the second most played class in the game... close behind wizard. Paladins are pretty beast too, and there aren't nearly as many. Both are pretty easy mode.

Zerkers are meh, but still a decent choice especially if you aren't into the whole spell casting/healing hybrid thing.

All that said I rolled a shadowknight alt, but there's really nothing wrong with a paladin either.

[select20]

Sweet folks, thanks. I think i'll be going with a pally then. I never have liked playing a class that everyone in their brother plays ( WOW DK).

[Aull]

I would say paladin would be a great tank and any level of the game. Sk's are awesome too. At the lower lvls they will be slow but once aa's being to increase these two crusaders will rock. Zerkers are good but I still think that at lower lvls they are not as versitle as the crusaders. Once zerker gets the mythical weapon they become awesome.

[Sleap]

Toran@Oasis wrote:

SK hands down. IMO eazy to tank with.SK---->Pally----------------------------------->Zerker--->Guard----------->Brawler class.

I tend to aggree SK's are easier to tank with... however ive seen some brawlers that tank better than guards/zerkers

It all depends on player skill.

[Silzin]

As a 90 monk, i can say that learning how to pull on a brawler is probably the most forgiving, since we can just Feign Death any bad pulls. but learning all the ins and out of how to tank on a brawler is much harder then what i have seen on plate tanks.

[Landiin]

Primel@Befallen wrote:

Toran@Oasis wrote:

SK hands down. IMO eazy to tank with.SK---->Pally----------------------------------->Zerker--->Guard----------->Brawler class.

I tend to aggree SK's are easier to tank with... however ive seen some brawlers that tank better than guards/zerkers

It all depends on player skill.

That is a ease of use chart. If it was a better tank chart  it would be totally deferent. but Umm yea Brawlers would still be the same spot. A good play with always out shine a poor player no matter the class well except for an SK..

[Pyra Shineflame]

Toran@Oasis wrote:

Primel@Befallen wrote:

Toran@Oasis wrote:

SK hands down. IMO eazy to tank with.SK---->Pally----------------------------------->Zerker--->Guard----------->Brawler class.

I tend to aggree SK's are easier to tank with... however ive seen some brawlers that tank better than guards/zerkers

It all depends on player skill.

That is a ease of use chart. If it was a better tank chart  it would be totally deferent. but Umm yea Brawlers would still be the same spot. A good play with always out shine a poor player no matter the class well except for an SK..

I've run into particularly awful SKs. Screwing up as a tank as an SK, is still screwing up as a tank =p

[Rast]

I'm partial to Paladins myself

But I'd put Pallies and Guards on about the same level for learning how to tank, both will have the added survivablity you need as you learn.

[Rast]

and I disagree with paladins being an easy mode tank.

they can be easy to learn some of the basic stuff, but a steep curve from there.

[Aull]

I would say that paladins are the most versitle of the tanks. They do have good survival, a great aggro tools, can heal others if situation presents that opportunity, rez if needed, and have possibly the best aoe damage and hate of the tanks on a consistant basis. The only area that a paladin will suffer in is single target damage.

It takes skill to become good no matter what fighter class is being debated. However I would say that the margin for error for the paladin is the least of all the fighters.

[Kota]

not gonna say i know from experience, because i think that would be i eula violation, but i bet if i logged a lvl 80 paladin in for the first time ever (when the cap was 80) and spent 3 minutes mousing over buttons to see what they did, 30 minutes later i would be getting tells about how awesome i was at tanking. just sayin'

[Rahatmattata]

Meh... if you have a moderate amount of video game skills, and average IQ, and get at least 15 frames per second, it's not hard to excell with pretty much any class in maybe a week of playing. The rest is just gear and group setup.

[Gungo]

Good choice in paladin.

Also nice to know if you dont like the paladin class you could betray and try out the shadowknight class with very little loss of investment.

Whereas if you picked up a bezerker you could only betray to a guardian which initially doesnt interest you.

[Landiin]

Gungo wrote:

Good choice in paladin.

Also nice to know if you dont like the paladin class you could betray and try out the shadowknight class with very little loss of investment.

Whereas if you picked up a bezerker you could only betray to a guardian which initially doesnt interest you.

I have to agree, Paladin is the only tank I know of that can 3 man some SF instances with out a healer. You just can't go wrong with the either crusader class.

[Terron]

Tenka@Nagafen wrote:

not gonna say i know from experience, because i think that would be i eula violation, but i bet if i logged a lvl 80 paladin in for the first time ever (when the cap was 80) and spent 3 minutes mousing over buttons to see what they did, 30 minutes later i would be getting tells about how awesome i was at tanking. just sayin'

Only if you already know how to tank

[Sprin]

Toran@Oasis wrote:

Gungo wrote:

Good choice in paladin.

Also nice to know if you dont like the paladin class you could betray and try out the shadowknight class with very little loss of investment.

Whereas if you picked up a bezerker you could only betray to a guardian which initially doesnt interest you.

I have to agree, Paladin is the only tank I know of that can 3 man some SF instances with out a healer. You just can't go wrong with the either crusader class.

I'll throw my 2copper in on this...

Pallys are beast tanks, no doubt... they have great survivability, great heals, a great aggro buff to put on someone else... and some good DPS..

The part about pallys doing the most AOE dps out of all tank classes... I'm gonna have to disagree with that and say SK's beat them out on that angle...  

And since SOE made it so DPS is king of tanking... thats a good thing for SK's... they pump out a stupid amount of DPS and can heal themselves VERY VERY well....

Now here is my opinion on soloing / duoing / trioing zones...

SK's can handle a LOT of content without a healer, especially if there are large encounters with semi-hard mobs... the problem with SK's come with hard hitting single target mobs... because SK's dont have large heals or wards like Pallys do, and SK's heals come from lifetaps and reactive heals... they have a harder time staying up vs a hard hitting mob that does large spike damage.  If all you have is spamming reaver and a 1k heal each time your hit, but your getting hit for 6-10k at a time, your gonna have to spam spell attacks to get reaver to heal you up... and of course if you can do that, your gonna run out of power REAL fast... and if the mob keeps beasting you, your gonna die...

Pallys have large wards, large direct heals so less power can be used to heal for the same amount... and can overcome spike damage MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH easier... which alows them to be able to auto attack and slowly kill a mob much easier... if an SK is getting hit hard, you cant kill the mob slowly, cuz your gonna die... so that allows pallys to solo / duo / trio more content then SK's IMHO..

That being said, SK's are a blast to play... massive damage, lots of tools to keep you alive and they dont have a gai lookin class hat that has big wings on it  

[Aule]

Nowadays I'd put berserker down for higher AOE dps, with all the crit bonus readily available and the higher starting crit value, the 100% trample benefit that berserkers have really shines even brighter than before.

[Kota]

still not keeping pace with pally/sk for dps. i'm not done trying things, but not looking like i'm going to match any of my crusader friends for dps. i'm talking about good crusaders btw. not some random ppl from pugs.

[RafaelSmith]

To the OP......it really depends on what aspec t of tanking you need to learn.  If its holding aggro, keeping aggro then I would stay away from SK because your not gonna learn anything as an SK since for the most part the class is a aggro magnet without even trying. In fact you might learn bad lesson and really look bad when you actually fight something where you have to work to keep aggro.   Also, For the most part the crusaders ive grouped with know very little about properly positioning mobs (probably cause they dont have too or care) which IMO is another aspect of being a good tank.

Ironically I would say pick a Brawler.....some of the most amazing tanks ive played have been the few brawlers that actually know they are tanks and not scouts in pajamas.   IMO If you can learn to tank well as a Brawler you will be amongst a select few instead of random scrub SK #999999.

[Bruener]

I say pick a Guard because their hate "issue" is non-existent in SF.  They are literal beasts when it comes to taking damage and are given plenty of tools to make tanking easy.

[Rahatmattata]

He already decided on a paladin. Not that it really matters at level 15-20 when most players start grouping (on Antonia Bayle anyway). It is important to learn the logistics of tanking such as how to pull mobs, positioning, targetting, handling unexpected situations, and getting used to dragging a group through a dungeon. Fallen Gate is a great training dungeon for breaking in new tanks. What class he is playing as he learns how to do that isn't as important.

The defense and hate control of a paladin, the versatility, and the fact that it's not an oversaturated class population-wise will make for a good tank class for him to play at end game. If he is a good player and puts effort and time into his character, he will be able to main tank raids, off tank, and be an awesome tank for heroic dungeons.

[Shareana]

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[Landiin]

Bruener wrote:

I say pick a Guard because their hate "issue" is non-existent in SF.  They are literal beasts when it comes to taking damage and are given plenty of tools to make tanking easy.

Oh quit lieing Bruener all other plat tanks are better at taking dmg in instances when there are multiple mobs hitting you. The ONLY time a guard shines is when they are tanking DMG form a ONE name in a raid.

[Bruener]

Toran@Oasis wrote:

Bruener wrote:

I say pick a Guard because their hate "issue" is non-existent in SF.  They are literal beasts when it comes to taking damage and are given plenty of tools to make tanking easy.

Oh quit lieing Bruener all other plat tanks are better at taking dmg in instances when there are multiple mobs hitting you. The ONLY time a guard shines is when they are tanking DMG form a ONE name in a raid.

Not with low amounts of AAs.  So my question is what is taking you so long to roll a Crusader, specifically SK Toran.  I mean you are obviously in luv with the class.

Honestly each fighter is going to be the same to learn how to tank on.  You either learn the skills or you don't, that is what it is being a tank.  I can play any other fighter and still be a great tank because it is about being aware and quick.  And as I said before I think that Paladins are the worst class to learn this on particularly because it is so easy to rely on Amends to do your work for you.  Than the few times a mob does rip off the ones that rely on Amends are caught with their pants down.

[Landiin]

I have one on my other account But I like my guard better it just feels more right to me to be a warrior not a crusader. I simply don't think you guys should have the a mount of survivability you do compared to the amount of DPS you dish out.