Scaled Up TSO zones

vexrm · 02-18-2010, 01:03 AM

Tonight we ran a Befallen NA. A level 81 made the zone. Every one in the group was 81 besides two. We had an 85 tank and an 80 Necro.

None of the names dropped chests and the void shard chest was empty.

Please look into this.

Yask · 02-18-2010, 02:53 AM

Yep same in all of the everfrost instances!

If your not going to scale up the loot at least make the mobs have their old drops, its better than nothing at all!!!

Disappointing!

Windslasher · 02-18-2010, 03:52 AM

This is a bug that I missed during internal testing. It will be fixed ASAP.

These dungeons are intended to scale up to 90, rewarding the level 80 items if you do them in the low to mid 80's, and level 90 items if you do them at a high enough level.

It looks like the drop tables are failing in the level 81+ range, up through about level 87, which is where the higher-end drops kick in. So if you're in that level range, you should avoid starting any upscaled exp05 instances for now. It's probably a good idea to have a level 80 start the dungeon, and just mentor down to run it. Or start it up at a high enough level that the bosses are level 90.

vexrm · 02-18-2010, 11:28 AM

Thank you for the quick reply! It is nice to get such a nice response and suggestions on a work around as it gets fixed.

MurFalad · 02-18-2010, 11:52 AM

A question here on the scaled up dungeons. Are the Guk instances all upscaled? And I assume they should be dropping level 90 loot then done at the correct level?

vexrm · 02-18-2010, 12:16 PM

Guk doesn't scale.

Pretty much if you look at: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=435958 and the zone has level range instead of 80+ it should scale to 90.

Anurra · 02-18-2010, 02:12 PM

Windslasher wrote:

This is a bug that I missed during internal testing. It will be fixed ASAP.
These dungeons are intended to scale up to 90, rewarding the level 80 items if you do them in the low to mid 80's, and level 90 items if you do them at a high enough level.
It looks like the drop tables are failing in the level 81+ range, up through about level 87, which is where the higher-end drops kick in. So if you're in that level range, you should avoid starting any upscaled exp05 instances for now. It's probably a good idea to have a level 80 start the dungeon, and just mentor down to run it. Or start it up at a high enough level that the bosses are level 90.

You should be more careful next time. Thanks for looking into it.

Kander · 02-18-2010, 11:46 PM

I am hopeful that this issue will be resolved tomorrow morning! Thanks for everyone's patience!

Xalmat · 02-21-2010, 02:38 AM

We just cleared a level 90 Najena's Hollow Tower. The mission awarded a void shard. Killing the final boss awarded a Mark of Manaar.

However, the void shard chest poofed on us, awarded no coin nor a void shard or mark of manaar.

Deserim · 02-22-2010, 12:39 PM

Scaled TSO instances are still bugged, at least when started with anything up to 85, my highest character atm. Bonus chests vanish when clicked, boss Named drop wooden chests, as well as other issues. Even when the boss named are 87 and higher, still wooden chests as of last night.

vinere · 02-22-2010, 05:55 PM

Deserim wrote:

Scaled TSO instances are still bugged, at least when started with anything up to 85, my highest character atm. Bonus chests vanish when clicked, boss Named drop wooden chests, as well as other issues. Even when the boss named are 87 and higher, still wooden chests as of last night.

They worked fine over teh weekend with an average lvl 87/88 group. We got the higher level loot, a couple 81+ masters, and the bosses droped Marks. Basically you get a Mark from teh boss, and the single shard quest. the shard quests do not work in the scaled up instances, but thats really not a big deal at this point.

Thunndar316 · 02-22-2010, 06:59 PM

Ran some zones scaled up to 88+.

Loot was fine but the shard chests were empty. Also there were no mark quests as the NPC's only offer the original shard quests.

The end bosses were dropping marks though.

Vulkan_NTooki · 02-27-2010, 02:35 AM

Well.. they stopped dropping Marks of Manaar... is this intentional or just a bug??

Azerack · 03-01-2010, 06:36 PM

Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80..

and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard...

Something is still amiss.

(Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO).

Obadiah · 03-01-2010, 06:39 PM

Azerack wrote:

Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80..
and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard...
Something is still amiss.
(Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO).

OoA doesn't scale.

Azerack · 03-01-2010, 06:57 PM

Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:

Azerack wrote:
Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80..
and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard...
Something is still amiss.
(Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO).
OoA doesn't scale.

So I see..

I thought it was going to be all TSO zones but apparently not.

I have seen where there are some mentions of ones that didn't like Nu'Roga, but is there a list I missed that says what do and what do not scale?

Googling didn't help and searching was too vague, so any help, here..

Thanks.

Nevermind.. I should just have looked up top..

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=435958

Oh well..

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Still wonder why the DD wasnt giving a Mark instead of a Shard for higher level people..

Obadiah · 03-01-2010, 07:04 PM

Azerack wrote:

I have seen where there are some mentions of ones that didn't like Nu'Roga, but is there a list I missed that says what do and what do not scale?

It's JUST the zones that scaled in TSO. So, EF zones, Lavastorm zones, Loping Plains zones, and Befallen zones. Not sure if that's spelled out anywhere "officially" or not.

Azerack · 03-01-2010, 07:09 PM

Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+".

Would be nice to have an official list.

Anyway, at least I have an idea..

Detor · 03-01-2010, 07:39 PM

Azerack wrote:

Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+".
Would be nice to have an official list.
Anyway, at least I have an idea..

Here's the list:

The three Befallen instances out of Commonlands do scale.

The three Miragul instances out of Everfrost do scale.

The three Najena instances out of Lavastorm do scale.

- 3 out of Fens of Nathsar do not scale, and the three out of Moors do not scale. (None of those 6 ever did.)

Obadiah · 03-01-2010, 07:51 PM

Detor wrote:

Azerack wrote:
Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+".
Would be nice to have an official list.
Anyway, at least I have an idea..
Here's the list:
The three Befallen instances out of Commonlands do scale.
The three Miragul instances out of Everfrost do scale.
The three Najena instances out of Lavastorm do scale.
- 3 out of Fens of Nathsar do not scale, and the three out of Moors do not scale. (None of those 6 ever did.)

There are 6 out of Moors that don't scale.

Also, the three Mistmoore instances out of Loping Plains that do scale. IOW, what I said before.

Azerack · 03-01-2010, 08:45 PM

Now I have the info.. Thanks all! (and to Kiara who replied to my PM as well. )

I guess on the bright side it means instead of doing Grey shard runs there might be "Green" shard runs, instead, in OoA and AoB for "level challenged" guild members who want to get relatively quick shard armor.

02-18-2010, 01:03 AM	#1
vexrm Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 284	Tonight we ran a Befallen NA. A level 81 made the zone. Every one in the group was 81 besides two. We had an 85 tank and an 80 Necro. None of the names dropped chests and the void shard chest was empty. Please look into this. __________________ Well, CC is useful in dungeons. I'm amazed and eating my words.

02-18-2010, 02:53 AM	#2
Yask General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 115	Yep same in all of the everfrost instances! If your not going to scale up the loot at least make the mobs have their old drops, its better than nothing at all!!! Disappointing! __________________

02-18-2010, 11:28 AM	#4
vexrm Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 284	Thank you for the quick reply! It is nice to get such a nice response and suggestions on a work around as it gets fixed. __________________ Well, CC is useful in dungeons. I'm amazed and eating my words.

02-18-2010, 12:16 PM	#6
vexrm Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 284	Guk doesn't scale. Pretty much if you look at: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=435958 and the zone has level range instead of 80+ it should scale to 90. __________________ Well, CC is useful in dungeons. I'm amazed and eating my words.

02-18-2010, 02:12 PM	#7
Anurra Server: Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 215	Windslasher wrote: This is a bug that I missed during internal testing. It will be fixed ASAP. These dungeons are intended to scale up to 90, rewarding the level 80 items if you do them in the low to mid 80's, and level 90 items if you do them at a high enough level. It looks like the drop tables are failing in the level 81+ range, up through about level 87, which is where the higher-end drops kick in. So if you're in that level range, you should avoid starting any upscaled exp05 instances for now. It's probably a good idea to have a level 80 start the dungeon, and just mentor down to run it. Or start it up at a high enough level that the bosses are level 90. You should be more careful next time. Thanks for looking into it.

02-18-2010, 03:52 AM	#3
Windslasher Developer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 168	This is a bug that I missed during internal testing. It will be fixed ASAP. These dungeons are intended to scale up to 90, rewarding the level 80 items if you do them in the low to mid 80's, and level 90 items if you do them at a high enough level. It looks like the drop tables are failing in the level 81+ range, up through about level 87, which is where the higher-end drops kick in. So if you're in that level range, you should avoid starting any upscaled exp05 instances for now. It's probably a good idea to have a level 80 start the dungeon, and just mentor down to run it. Or start it up at a high enough level that the bosses are level 90.

02-18-2010, 11:52 AM	#5
MurFalad Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tonbridge, UK Posts: 1,360	A question here on the scaled up dungeons. Are the Guk instances all upscaled? And I assume they should be dropping level 90 loot then done at the correct level?

02-18-2010, 11:46 PM	#8
Kander Game Dev Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 660	I am hopeful that this issue will be resolved tomorrow morning! Thanks for everyone's patience! __________________ <img src="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7049/kandersignatureskyshrin.jpg">

02-21-2010, 02:38 AM	#9
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	We just cleared a level 90 Najena's Hollow Tower. The mission awarded a void shard. Killing the final boss awarded a Mark of Manaar. However, the void shard chest poofed on us, awarded no coin nor a void shard or mark of manaar. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

02-22-2010, 12:39 PM	#10
Deserim Lord Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 22	Scaled TSO instances are still bugged, at least when started with anything up to 85, my highest character atm. Bonus chests vanish when clicked, boss Named drop wooden chests, as well as other issues. Even when the boss named are 87 and higher, still wooden chests as of last night. __________________ Mistmoore Deserel - 90 Shadowknight Desemy - 90 Inquisitor Desirelle - 90 Illusionist Desmirelle - 90 Troubadour Desiraii - 89 Wizard Deseri - 89 Dirge Deserim - 80 Guardian Desera - 80 Necromancer Desirai - 80 Fury Demerel - 80 Warlock

02-22-2010, 05:55 PM	#11
vinere Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 298	Deserim wrote: Scaled TSO instances are still bugged, at least when started with anything up to 85, my highest character atm. Bonus chests vanish when clicked, boss Named drop wooden chests, as well as other issues. Even when the boss named are 87 and higher, still wooden chests as of last night. They worked fine over teh weekend with an average lvl 87/88 group. We got the higher level loot, a couple 81+ masters, and the bosses droped Marks. Basically you get a Mark from teh boss, and the single shard quest. the shard quests do not work in the scaled up instances, but thats really not a big deal at this point.

02-22-2010, 06:59 PM	#12
Thunndar316 Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,681	Ran some zones scaled up to 88+. Loot was fine but the shard chests were empty. Also there were no mark quests as the NPC's only offer the original shard quests. The end bosses were dropping marks though. __________________ Sleight of Hand is USELESS

02-27-2010, 02:35 AM	#13
Vulkan_NTooki Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 644	Well.. they stopped dropping Marks of Manaar... is this intentional or just a bug?? __________________

03-01-2010, 06:36 PM	#14
Azerack Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80.. and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard... Something is still amiss. (Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO).

03-01-2010, 06:39 PM	#15
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Azerack wrote: Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80.. and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard... Something is still amiss. (Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO). OoA doesn't scale. __________________

03-01-2010, 06:57 PM	#16
Azerack Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	Kurgan@Everfrost wrote: Azerack wrote: Last night, my wife and I at 87 zoned into OoA and all the mobs were still level 80.. and the daily double is still the green quest for the shard... Something is still amiss. (Yes, if there is going to be higher risk the DD should be a higher reward, as well, IMHO). OoA doesn't scale. So I see.. I thought it was going to be all TSO zones but apparently not. I have seen where there are some mentions of ones that didn't like Nu'Roga, but is there a list I missed that says what do and what do not scale? Googling didn't help and searching was too vague, so any help, here.. Thanks. Nevermind.. I should just have looked up top.. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=435958 Oh well.. ------------------------------------ Still wonder why the DD wasnt giving a Mark instead of a Shard for higher level people..

03-01-2010, 07:04 PM	#17
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Azerack wrote: I have seen where there are some mentions of ones that didn't like Nu'Roga, but is there a list I missed that says what do and what do not scale? It's JUST the zones that scaled in TSO. So, EF zones, Lavastorm zones, Loping Plains zones, and Befallen zones. Not sure if that's spelled out anywhere "officially" or not. __________________

03-01-2010, 07:09 PM	#18
Azerack Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+". Would be nice to have an official list. Anyway, at least I have an idea..

03-01-2010, 07:39 PM	#19
Detor Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,198	Azerack wrote: Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+". Would be nice to have an official list. Anyway, at least I have an idea.. Here's the list: The three Befallen instances out of Commonlands do scale. The three Miragul instances out of Everfrost do scale. The three Najena instances out of Lavastorm do scale. - 3 out of Fens of Nathsar do not scale, and the three out of Moors do not scale. (None of those 6 ever did.) __________________ Comcast (SMC D3G-BIZ) & Verizon Cellphone (Droid Charge)

03-01-2010, 07:51 PM	#20
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Detor wrote: Azerack wrote: Yeah, I took a closer look at the post of TSO Scaled dungeons but it didn't help since it says Obelisk is "80+". Would be nice to have an official list. Anyway, at least I have an idea.. Here's the list: The three Befallen instances out of Commonlands do scale. The three Miragul instances out of Everfrost do scale. The three Najena instances out of Lavastorm do scale. - 3 out of Fens of Nathsar do not scale, and the three out of Moors do not scale. (None of those 6 ever did.) There are 6 out of Moors that don't scale. Also, the three Mistmoore instances out of Loping Plains that do scale. IOW, what I said before. __________________

03-01-2010, 08:45 PM	#21
Azerack Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 53	Now I have the info.. Thanks all! (and to Kiara who replied to my PM as well. ) I guess on the bright side it means instead of doing Grey shard runs there might be "Green" shard runs, instead, in OoA and AoB for "level challenged" guild members who want to get relatively quick shard armor.