Tribunal Cloak

[Dept]

Its still stupid. Fix please.

1. Reduce Duration to 1 or 2 seconds. 5 is way too long.2. Reduce proc rate by atleast 75%.

[Jab]

+1

make it happen plz...

What really bugs me is that you dont have to pvp for too long to realise that this item is out of whack.

heck just inspect anybdy that is anybody and u will see that everybody is using this cloak over any other hard core end raiding cloaks out there..

If anything this goes to show our dear devs dont play the game in the same way we do...Or else that item would have been nerfed a loooong time ago..

[Proud_Silence]

Dept@Venekor wrote:

Its still stupid. Fix please.

1. Reduce Duration to 1 or 2 seconds. 5 is way too long.2. Reduce proc rate by atleast 75%.

+1

Nice to know it is at least curable, making it less of an annoyance in group pvp.

Now if there was an immunity granted after being hit first time, it would help tremendously in the solo pvp aspects.

[Dreamz]

I feel your pain and I have complained a time or two about certain classes and items in pvp. But leave the dang thing alone!  Adding the cure seems fair but nerfing it is bs.  As the first poster stated, most hardcore pvpers have it.  If you want it, it takes an hour to do the quest line...get off the boards complaining and go get one.

Personally I want them to nerf wardens..almost impossible for a ranger to kill 1v1..even using mental breach, potions, and signets...(and giving them a pvp fear item is a bit over the top).. but then I love having a warden in my pvp group...and I've killed a warden now and then though I suspect they are taking a ninja afk!

Second on nerf list would be wizards..since the xpac I have been one shotted once and two shotted a couple of times by wizards 1v1. My ranger has a full set of pvp gear and jewelry with 80% crit mit and I still got a critical hit of 11.5k layed on me! But it is part of the game...that doesn't mean a wizzie will own a ranger every time..i just have to get the jump and unload..or I die....I get up..I go find something to kill..lol.

Nerfing one class or item to help another class pvp seems like an endless downward spiral to mediocrity..or WOW.

[Dept]

Xpect@Nagafen wrote:

Personally I want them to nerf wardens..

Second on nerf list would be wizards..

Nerfing one class or item to help another class pvp seems like an endless downward spiral to mediocrity..or WOW.

You said what?

Everyone having one is a sign that they're OP, not that all is well. Basically whoever procs their cloak first wins in most melee fights.

[Notsovilepriest]

I do think it's down to 4 seconds now last time I clicked PvP tab, but it proc's far more often than it is supposed to from watching the icon hit me since I'm immune to stun ~90% of the time.

[Chia_Pet]

If everyone has one, whats the problem? just means its fair across the board right? unless of course you are a class that depends onstuns/stifles to win, in which case this evens the playing field against you because you wind up being hit by your own medicine.

I say leave it.

[Dept]

Just because it's fair doesn't mean it isnt stupid.

[Duotang]

Dept@Venekor wrote:

Just because it's fair doesn't mean it isnt stupid.

Like moving Venekor players over to Nag?

[Killque]

The only thing about Tribunal cloak that needs to be fixed is:

• It is resistable
• It is cureable
• It provides an immunity to stun

The rest can stay the same.

That said, when this fix is implemented the following also need to be implemented:

• Banshee Hoop (same fixes apply as for cloak above)

[Notsovilepriest]

Killque wrote:

The only thing about Tribunal cloak that needs to be fixed is:

• It is resistable
• It is cureable
• It provides an immunity to stun

The rest can stay the same.

That said, when this fix is implemented the following also need to be implemented:

• Banshee Hoop (same fixes apply as for cloak above)

It needs it's proc rate greatly reduced IMO, as well as banshee hoop needs a definate looking into

[Notsovilepriest]

Chia_Pet wrote:

If everyone has one, whats the problem? just means its fair across the board right? unless of course you are a class that depends onstuns/stifles to win, in which case this evens the playing field against you because you wind up being hit by your own medicine.

I say leave it.

Everyone can have anything in the game, some people choose not to for different reasons.

[Killque]

Notsovilepriest@Nagafen wrote:

Killque wrote:

The only thing about Tribunal cloak that needs to be fixed is:

• It is resistable
• It is cureable
• It provides an immunity to stun

The rest can stay the same.

That said, when this fix is implemented the following also need to be implemented:

• Banshee Hoop (same fixes apply as for cloak above)

It needs it's proc rate greatly reduced IMO, as well as banshee hoop needs a definate looking into

The proc rate would not matter if you had say a 20-30 second immunity. The banshee hoop needs the same rules applied.

[jam3]

the cloak should have its duration reduced to 3seconds, the same as the cloak from thule.

an item like this should not make or break pvp fights, i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

[Killque]

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

.... i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

How is that new nuke treating you?

[jam3]

Killque wrote:

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

.... i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

How is that new nuke treating you?

its great, of course your a dirge who had a broken mythical for months though, and I've killed many 50 people so far this expansion.

don't get hostile because you dont want the nerf to a stupid cloak that has a longer duration then almost any cc ability scouts get

[Jab]

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

the cloak should have its duration reduced to 3seconds, the same as the cloak from thule.

an item like this should not make or break pvp fights, i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

And it should end right there with further discussion..Altho i would be happy with a 2sec stun duration,especially if it keeps its broken proc rate.

I just skimmed the thread and i noticed a crusader and a ranger speaking for it.

Funny enough those classes are the ones that seem to benefit alot from this item.im not saying others dont but for some strange reason when i fght either of said classes on any of my toons that cloak is proccing every 10-15sec..Gets boooooring really fast..

[gdawg311]

if you nerf tribunal cloak make sure you nerf the priest fear proc from their gear. make it 1 or 2 seconds, put immunity on it and make it curable while feared.

nah dont do that, other wise these crybabys will be crying even more tbh

[Chia_Pet]

Jabib@Nagafen wrote:

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

the cloak should have its duration reduced to 3seconds, the same as the cloak from thule.

an item like this should not make or break pvp fights, i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

And it should end right there with further discussion..Altho i would be happy with a 2sec stun duration,especially if it keeps its broken proc rate.

I just skimmed the thread and i noticed a crusader and a ranger speaking for it.

Funny enough those classes are the ones that seem to benefit alot from this item.im not saying others dont but for some strange reason when i fght either of said classes on any of my toons that cloak is proccing every 10-15sec..Gets boooooring really fast..

Of course you dont like it, and of course I do like it. it means you cant just hit a DPS macro over and over again to spam your CA's hoping to kill/end the fight in 5 secs. it means you actually have to use some kind of skill. it also means that I get a chance to fight back and recover from the multidue of stuns and stifles constantly being thrown my way.

Refreshing and, given that anyone can have one with ease, id say a pretty fair item. you can stun me for 5 secs i can do the same to you.

odd how its always the scouts whining when they run into something they cant kill with ease...person with stun cloak, crusaders, Coercers...LOL

[Sprin]

All I see from this thread is that you dont feel like taking the time to get a cloak that someone beat you with....   Its available to everyone... go get it

Do you want everything nerfed so that you are playing Pac-Man in 3D?

[Jab]

Chia_Pet wrote:

Jabib@Nagafen wrote:

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

the cloak should have its duration reduced to 3seconds, the same as the cloak from thule.

an item like this should not make or break pvp fights, i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

And it should end right there with further discussion..Altho i would be happy with a 2sec stun duration,especially if it keeps its broken proc rate.

I just skimmed the thread and i noticed a crusader and a ranger speaking for it.

Funny enough those classes are the ones that seem to benefit alot from this item.im not saying others dont but for some strange reason when i fght either of said classes on any of my toons that cloak is proccing every 10-15sec..Gets boooooring really fast..

Of course you dont like it, and of course I do like it. it means you cant just hit a DPS macro over and over again to spam your CA's hoping to kill/end the fight in 5 secs. it means you actually have to use some kind of skill. it also means that I get a chance to fight back and recover from the multidue of stuns and stifles constantly being thrown my way.

Refreshing and, given that anyone can have one with ease, id say a pretty fair item. you can stun me for 5 secs i can do the same to you.

odd how its always the scouts whining when they run into something they cant kill with ease...person with stun cloak, crusaders, Coercers...LOL

Seriously arthu.

Get out and step away from the game..

U are waaay in too deep.

You do nothing but assume what other ppl think..

Let me give u a little tip..Just because my sig shows a brig dosent mean it is the only class i play ??!!

Also [Removed for Content] does stifle-stun being trown at ur direction have to do with anything..It happens to all of us and not just u..Seriously..

Try stepping away from ur lame class and see how it is for a change..now IM asuming here but u leave me with no options..I got toons that benefit more from this cloak then most other classes but still that dosent stop me from realising how this cloak can determine the outcome of a great deal of matches..Im sorry if u cant see why that is not fun but then again u assume so many things that understand basic stuff must come hard for u m8..

I repeat.Get out of the door and get laid or something..

P.S

I often play a pally that is better equipped then yours and dps macroes work just fine on crusaders.Soo not really sure what ur obsession is with scouts and macroes..Man u come of like a complete noob m8..sorry to inform u.

I hope by now u realise that im not just making stuff up or assuming i know what i talk about..I play multiple classes and i have done so for over 4 years of pvp now..

[Jab]

Ghettoblaster@Nagafen wrote:

All I see from this thread is that you dont feel like taking the time to get a cloak that someone beat you with....   Its available to everyone... go get it

Do you want everything nerfed so that you are playing Pac-Man in 3D?

Ranger or crusader ??

Am i right =) I know im going long here but for some reason my gut tells me im right..

[Jab]

gdawg311 wrote:

if you nerf tribunal cloak make sure you nerf the priest fear proc from their gear. make it 1 or 2 seconds, put immunity on it and make it curable while feared.

nah dont do that, other wise these crybabys will be crying even more tbh

Take away the cry babie statement and i totally agree on this..

The proc chance is too high and the duration is too long..

Just my 2c

[Notsovilepriest]

Notsovilepriest@Nagafen wrote:

Chia_Pet wrote:

If everyone has one, whats the problem? just means its fair across the board right? unless of course you are a class that depends onstuns/stifles to win, in which case this evens the playing field against you because you wind up being hit by your own medicine.

I say leave it.

Everyone can have anything in the game, some people choose not to for different reasons.

HEY LOOK, THE "EVERYONE CAN GET IT SO IT'S NOT OP ARGUEMENT IS NULL"

CAPS LOCK IS GREAT!

[Chia_Pet]

Jabib@Nagafen wrote:

Chia_Pet wrote:

Jabib@Nagafen wrote:

Aeeron@Nagafen wrote:

the cloak should have its duration reduced to 3seconds, the same as the cloak from thule.

an item like this should not make or break pvp fights, i can only begin to tell you how many fights are decieded by this cloak

And it should end right there with further discussion..Altho i would be happy with a 2sec stun duration,especially if it keeps its broken proc rate.

I just skimmed the thread and i noticed a crusader and a ranger speaking for it.

Funny enough those classes are the ones that seem to benefit alot from this item.im not saying others dont but for some strange reason when i fght either of said classes on any of my toons that cloak is proccing every 10-15sec..Gets boooooring really fast..

Of course you dont like it, and of course I do like it. it means you cant just hit a DPS macro over and over again to spam your CA's hoping to kill/end the fight in 5 secs. it means you actually have to use some kind of skill. it also means that I get a chance to fight back and recover from the multidue of stuns and stifles constantly being thrown my way.

Refreshing and, given that anyone can have one with ease, id say a pretty fair item. you can stun me for 5 secs i can do the same to you.

odd how its always the scouts whining when they run into something they cant kill with ease...person with stun cloak, crusaders, Coercers...LOL

Seriously arthu.

Get out and step away from the game..

U are waaay in too deep.

You do nothing but assume what other ppl think..

Let me give u a little tip..Just because my sig shows a brig dosent mean it is the only class i play ??!!

Also [Removed for Content] does stifle-stun being trown at ur direction have to do with anything..It happens to all of us and not just u..Seriously..

Try stepping away from ur lame class and see how it is for a change..now IM asuming here but u leave me with no options..I got toons that benefit more from this cloak then most other classes but still that dosent stop me from realising how this cloak can determine the outcome of a great deal of matches..Im sorry if u cant see why that is not fun but then again u assume so many things that understand basic stuff must come hard for u m8..

I repeat.Get out of the door and get laid or something..

P.S

I often play a pally that is better equipped then yours and dps macroes work just fine on crusaders.Soo not really sure what ur obsession is with scouts and macroes..Man u come of like a complete noob m8..sorry to inform u.

I hope by now u realise that im not just making stuff up or assuming i know what i talk about..I play multiple classes and i have done so for over 4 years of pvp now..

Please tell me i misread something and you did not just state that you use a macro when you play a Pally in PvP and then continue on to call me a noob...

[Proud_Silence]

Possible solutions, whatever is easiest to implement, but something must be done about this item;

-Reduce duration to 2 seconds

-Leave it at current duration - then give us an immunity after first hit

-Make the proc resistable ( a similar chance of landing like a bruiser's fear or mez comes to mind)

-Adjust the proc rate. right now it takes like 1 - 3 autoattacks for a ranger to have a near guaranteed proc. and 4 seconds of complete lock down is a long time in todays damage-heavy pvp.

The reason why even Avatar geared people are using this cloak over any other cloak (in pvp ) is simply because it is so incredibly overpowered. Team Sony come on ! there's so many nice cloaks out there, why are you forcing us to use that old school Tribunal cloak ? It's the same as the Bloodthirsty choker. I would had loved to use a shiny new necklace over that old dusty lvl 70 Choker...but that effect on it is/was just too good to pass on...and much easier to get then Anashti's Neck.

Finally, after years, and level increasing expansion to 90 you managed to give us Necklaces that make us throw Choker into the trash bin.

Please change this cloak so we aren't forced to use it anymore.