Leveling to 90 through solo quest lines

Angelann · 02-18-2010, 03:26 PM

As best as I can tell, I have completed all of the solo questlines for the two new overland zones. I am currently at level 86.5 which inlcudes about 15 collection quest turnins. Therefore, I'm wondering if I've missed a large section of solo quests somewhere, or if it's intended to have to either grind out several levels or do group quests in the Hole and the new instances? I guess my main question is, has anyone made it to 90 by only doing the new solo questlines in SF?

Payneal The Great · 02-18-2010, 03:29 PM

I would hope there is enough solo quests to get to 90, how many did you complete?

Angelann · 02-18-2010, 05:21 PM

It's in the neighborhood of 240 quests completed between the two overland zones that I have completed. There are still about 5 that i have in my journal to do but they are sideline quests such as Roekillik L&L, a random drop kill quest, etc. As far as the main timeline quests, I think I'm at the end (but I'm hoping that I've missed something major).

Yimway · 02-18-2010, 05:38 PM

Angelann wrote:

It's in the neighborhood of 240 quests completed between the two overland zones that I have completed. There are still about 5 that i have in my journal to do but they are sideline quests such as Roekillik L&L, a random drop kill quest, etc. As far as the main timeline quests, I think I'm at the end (but I'm hoping that I've missed something major).

Well the good knews is, the mobs in the hole hit softly enough you can probably start soloing them, or worst case duo.

rbritz · 02-18-2010, 06:27 PM

SF and SM have a combined quest total of 263 quests, not including collections, per Fluffy. 84 for the basic Hole. So plenty of quests to get to 88/89 based upon your character level. I'm still stuck back at 81, as my time online has been limited badly for a work project.

Valdaglerion · 02-18-2010, 06:28 PM

There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well.

I did find one that was "hidden" but dont recall specifics so bear with me. Once you finish a quest line in Paineel you could buy a potion off one of the merchants there that started you on another questline. Just wondering if there are more things like this to unlock additional things, Gninja has been liking the randomly hiding things in the world to be discovered lately so I wont discount it too quickly.

Rattfa · 02-18-2010, 06:36 PM

86 is about as far as I got in beta with the solo quests

Yimway · 02-18-2010, 06:38 PM

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:

There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well.

450 Solo quests?

or 450 new quests?

Valdaglerion · 02-18-2010, 07:07 PM

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:
There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well.
450 Solo quests?
or 450 new quests?

450 new, dont know how they are broken down yet but I have yet to find a good many, still hunting.

According to Fluffy . . . . (no breakout as to solo vs other but enjoy)

793 new quests have now been added to the Questlist in preparation for the launch of the Sentinel's Fate expansion.Unfortunately almost 100 of those quests are using the mission system, which means that they disappear from the journal after a day or so.

Angelann · 02-18-2010, 07:25 PM

Thank you for all of the replies!!! Sounds like it's group up time which is cool, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something huge, heh.

Woody67 · 02-18-2010, 07:42 PM

I wonder how many of those new quests would be in the crafting areas. Looks like about 50 to 60 at a rough count from what i can find.

colleen · 02-18-2010, 10:04 PM

Finished a lot of the quests in Stonebrunt today and got to 85.3. Got stuck because the void war is not happening on my server but that only keeps me out of a handful of quests.

This is frustrating to say the least. When you get to SF, the quests are blue and stay there throughout - with only the occasional white or yellow con quest unless you go off the beaten path - for instance, to Kerra Island before finishing up Paineel. When you get to stonebrunt, the quests are yellow/orange and stay there, and do not seem to progress you that far. Is this expansion finished? Kunark has perhaps twice as many solo quests as you need to level from 70 to 80. SF... not so much. It's very confusing, especially since SF quests - despite being a linear progression - are sometimes unclear about what to do or where to go next.

The rewards are so cookie cutter and the very long chains of quests that require other quests, particularly in SF... Sony, I am disappoint.

Valdaglerion · 02-19-2010, 03:41 PM

I dont know, I find these really enjoyable because they are more relational in connection to each other and seem really logically laid out as do the zones. The deeper you understand and involve yourself in these relationships between the various beings on the continents for questlines open up and people end up with additional things for you to do.

I have finished around 100 quests so far and about to ding 85. Havent done any of the instances yet or any questing in the hole yet so with another 593 accounted for quests of which a good portion of those are likely solo, I dont think 90 will be difficult to achieve in questing.

The only thing I have been disappointed with thus far is that the quests dont provide group updates when questing together ; HOWEVER, the npcs and events for the updates seem to be pretty quick respawns and resets so it isnt terrible either.

From my point of view you do need to read the quests text and conversations with the NPC's. Several, after you finish their quest give hints on how to start another quest with them (IE - go find something, earn additional faction, etc).

Balic · 02-19-2010, 03:56 PM

That is the experience I had as well. I got about 6-7 levels from the solo timelines.

I threw a few hours in The Hole with an XP potion to get me to 90.

Kain-UK · 02-20-2010, 03:14 PM

I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions...

I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections...

Got me from 80 to 86.9.

So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad.

Krinta · 02-20-2010, 06:08 PM

Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping.

I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all SMILEY

Obadiah · 02-20-2010, 09:21 PM

Krinta@The Bazaar wrote:

Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping.
I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all

Of the 3 expansions in which the level cap was raised, only Kunark had solo quests that could take you to the level cap.

Maroger · 02-20-2010, 09:34 PM

Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:

Krinta@The Bazaar wrote:
Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping.
I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all
Of the 3 expansions in which the level cap was raised, only Kunark had solo quests that could take you to the level cap.

Remember Scott Hartsman did Kunark and he was probably the best expansion designer and producer SOE ever had. They should try and get him back. Of course this is still a better expansion than TSO- which was a flop.

Also geographically speaking Kunark was a whole lot bigger. Odus, if you remember EQ1, was a nothing area with very little in it and quite small - so obviously geographically this is small compared to Kunark. If they ever do Velious that should be large.

Hopefully they will see these messages and put in more quests.

Arkenor · 02-20-2010, 10:54 PM

Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone?

I suspect the main problem is that folks have learned to become extremely efficient when questing, not killing much that doesn't apply to the quests they have.

Do some dailies. Find something you want to kill for it's loot. Make your guild happy by doing some writs. Stick your nose into the battlegrounds if thats your sort of thing. Or chronomancer down a bit and do all the quests you missed on the way up. You'll get to 90 soon enough.

Lomograph · 02-22-2010, 05:26 AM

Maltheas@Lucan DLere wrote:

Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone?

No, but it'd be nice to hit 90 from solo quest xp alone SMILEY

It really strikes me as odd going from a huge amount of quests in The Sundered Frontier, to a small hand full in Stonebrunt. It's just not consistent and it feels somewhat lazy.

DngrMou · 02-23-2010, 11:22 AM

Kain-UK wrote:

I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions...
I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections...
Got me from 80 to 86.9.
So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad.

I don't understand how this is possible, unless you started with quite a bit of XP debt, and had your xp slider set above 0.

I did all the solo quests, a good amount of collection quests, Roekilik L&L, a few group quests, and a few other body drop quests, and got to 89, without the use of xp pots.

Valdaglerion · 02-23-2010, 01:00 PM

Currently at 87.3 only solo questlines ths far and plenty more to go. Additional questing, including solo repeatables keep opening up with more questing and leveling. Keep checking back on areas you have visited and talk with npcs, even ones without feathers. Some start questlines that dont have feathers, not sure if that is intended or not but it makes it interesting for sure.

redmond_giant · 02-23-2010, 04:27 PM

colleen wrote:

This is frustrating to say the least. When you get to SF, the quests are blue and stay there throughout - with only the occasional white or yellow con quest unless you go off the beaten path - for instance, to Kerra Island before finishing up Paineel. When you get to stonebrunt, the quests are yellow/orange and stay there, and do not seem to progress you that far. Is this expansion finished? Kunark has perhaps twice as many solo quests as you need to level from 70 to 80. SF... not so much. It's very confusing, especially since SF quests - despite being a linear progression - are sometimes unclear about what to do or where to go next.

Clearly they didn't finish the higher-end quest progression.

The entire NE quadrant of Tox Forest (the entire purple area around the Tox Forest Station and Lair) has no quests at all (probably [84-85] ones if it had any). This is a major source of the feeling of a "gap" from finishing off the Pandas/Kerra (where quests are all blue/white) then jumping to Stonebrunt Highlands (where quests are all yellow+).

It isn't a problem doing yellow quests, it is the fact that we incur a "quest level deficit" that you never really recover until you run out of quests. Sure, you can mentor down, craft, run instances, all sorts of ways to make up the XP. But the fact that soloable quest lines alone comfortably get you to 90 without SIGNIFICANT grinding or alternate means of XP is a true one.

My Illy has done only questing (no crafting, mentoring down or much instancing yet) just to see how solo quest progression goes. I am mid-85 but doing 86-88 quests in Highlands (currently I am mostly through the Que'leh or whatever area). And I haven't missed any quest hubs that I know of, just a couple isolated quests others have mentioned.

Yimway · 02-23-2010, 05:53 PM

Maltheas@Lucan DLere wrote:

Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone?

Absolutely not.

A game designed this way produces boat loads of player starting the cooperative game at cap with no practical knowledge of how their class is played.

Healers who don't have 'cure' on their hotbars. Tanks that don't understand what a taunt is. Players that don't understand hate transfers, etc, etc.

Since 90% or more of the players time is spent at cap, it serves the community better to reinforce and reward skills that the player needs to know when they get there.

Talazar · 02-23-2010, 06:04 PM

Kain-UK wrote:

I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions...
I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections...
Got me from 80 to 86.9.
So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad.

afaik xp pots do not augment experience gained for completing quests.

Gnova · 02-23-2010, 07:27 PM

The lack of solo content to take a player from 81-90 in Odus is a launch only issue.

With the way the xp has been adjusted from level 65+ a player will hit level 80 far before they finish RoK, TSO, or the added lavastorm quests. Future solo players will likely be 85ish before setting foot in Odus.

There is a glut of quests for level 70-80 atm and adding another 100-150 quests into Odus for soloers to be able to solo cap at launch would only add to it. Also, any more solo Odus quests and the 250AAs would come too quickly.

Dimhammer · 02-24-2010, 06:35 PM

I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there.

DngrMou · 02-24-2010, 07:47 PM

Dimhammer wrote:

I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there.

I don't understand the reasoning behind the demand that level 90 be accomplished in only a week's time, and only by solo quests.

Hamervelder · 02-25-2010, 12:49 AM

DngrMouse wrote:

Dimhammer wrote:
I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there.
I don't understand the reasoning behind the demand that level 90 be accomplished in only a week's time, and only by solo quests.

I concur. I don't want to hit 90 in a week, or even a month. Then what am I going to do? Run instances over and over? Where's the fun in that? I don't want to be 90/250 in a month or six weeks.

SirDinadan · 02-25-2010, 11:51 AM

It's fairly clear to me the quest lines won't get me to 90, but I'm not too upset at that. I had the same issue getting to 70, and survived the shiny-grubbing and instance-crawling to finish the task.

But the thinness of the quest series for SF has exhausted my patience in a different way. Most of the other expansions had quest groupings, in addition to quest lines. You could go to Bonemire.. or Loping.. and of course any of the Kunark zones.. and get 5 to 10 quests at a time, to be done simultaneously in one tour of the zone.

The only location that has even come close to that for me so far was Moonfield Hamlet. Every other place seems to be "Here's a quest. Run back and forth. Here's another quest. Run back and forth." Long chains of sequential quests that are 95% percent travel and 5% quest-related kills or harvests. And way too many require that the travel goes back and forth to other zones simply to extend the time it takes to complete them.

I'm about ready to claw my own eyes out in desperation, and this is only character #1 of 7 to level to 90.

02-18-2010, 03:29 PM	#2
Payneal The Great Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 166	I would hope there is enough solo quests to get to 90, how many did you complete? __________________ Dear Devs, please nerf rock.., paper is fine. Yours Truly, Scissors!

02-18-2010, 05:38 PM	#4
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Angelann wrote: It's in the neighborhood of 240 quests completed between the two overland zones that I have completed. There are still about 5 that i have in my journal to do but they are sideline quests such as Roekillik L&L, a random drop kill quest, etc. As far as the main timeline quests, I think I'm at the end (but I'm hoping that I've missed something major). Well the good knews is, the mobs in the hole hit softly enough you can probably start soloing them, or worst case duo. __________________

02-18-2010, 06:27 PM	#5
rbritz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 203	SF and SM have a combined quest total of 263 quests, not including collections, per Fluffy. 84 for the basic Hole. So plenty of quests to get to 88/89 based upon your character level. I'm still stuck back at 81, as my time online has been limited badly for a work project. __________________

02-18-2010, 06:36 PM	#7
Rattfa Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Friends And Family General Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,083	86 is about as far as I got in beta with the solo quests __________________ Squeeeek, 80 Brigand - Nagafen Rattface, 80 Fury - Nagafen

02-18-2010, 06:38 PM	#8
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote: There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well. 450 Solo quests? or 450 new quests? __________________

02-18-2010, 03:26 PM	#1
Angelann Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 34	As best as I can tell, I have completed all of the solo questlines for the two new overland zones. I am currently at level 86.5 which inlcudes about 15 collection quest turnins. Therefore, I'm wondering if I've missed a large section of solo quests somewhere, or if it's intended to have to either grind out several levels or do group quests in the Hole and the new instances? I guess my main question is, has anyone made it to 90 by only doing the new solo questlines in SF?

02-18-2010, 05:21 PM	#3
Angelann Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 34	It's in the neighborhood of 240 quests completed between the two overland zones that I have completed. There are still about 5 that i have in my journal to do but they are sideline quests such as Roekillik L&L, a random drop kill quest, etc. As far as the main timeline quests, I think I'm at the end (but I'm hoping that I've missed something major).

02-18-2010, 06:28 PM	#6
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well. I did find one that was "hidden" but dont recall specifics so bear with me. Once you finish a quest line in Paineel you could buy a potion off one of the merchants there that started you on another questline. Just wondering if there are more things like this to unlock additional things, Gninja has been liking the randomly hiding things in the world to be discovered lately so I wont discount it too quickly.

02-18-2010, 07:07 PM	#9
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Atan@Unrest wrote: Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote: There are supposedly 450 new quests but they all seem to be linked together to unlock various portions which I keep running in to as well. 450 Solo quests? or 450 new quests? 450 new, dont know how they are broken down yet but I have yet to find a good many, still hunting. According to Fluffy . . . . (no breakout as to solo vs other but enjoy) 793 new quests have now been added to the Questlist in preparation for the launch of the Sentinel's Fate expansion.Unfortunately almost 100 of those quests are using the mission system, which means that they disappear from the journal after a day or so.

02-18-2010, 07:25 PM	#10
Angelann Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 34	Thank you for all of the replies!!! Sounds like it's group up time which is cool, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something huge, heh.

02-18-2010, 07:42 PM	#11
Woody67 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 105	I wonder how many of those new quests would be in the crafting areas. Looks like about 50 to 60 at a rough count from what i can find.

02-18-2010, 10:04 PM	#12
colleen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 29	Finished a lot of the quests in Stonebrunt today and got to 85.3. Got stuck because the void war is not happening on my server but that only keeps me out of a handful of quests. This is frustrating to say the least. When you get to SF, the quests are blue and stay there throughout - with only the occasional white or yellow con quest unless you go off the beaten path - for instance, to Kerra Island before finishing up Paineel. When you get to stonebrunt, the quests are yellow/orange and stay there, and do not seem to progress you that far. Is this expansion finished? Kunark has perhaps twice as many solo quests as you need to level from 70 to 80. SF... not so much. It's very confusing, especially since SF quests - despite being a linear progression - are sometimes unclear about what to do or where to go next. The rewards are so cookie cutter and the very long chains of quests that require other quests, particularly in SF... Sony, I am disappoint.

02-19-2010, 03:41 PM	#13
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	I dont know, I find these really enjoyable because they are more relational in connection to each other and seem really logically laid out as do the zones. The deeper you understand and involve yourself in these relationships between the various beings on the continents for questlines open up and people end up with additional things for you to do. I have finished around 100 quests so far and about to ding 85. Havent done any of the instances yet or any questing in the hole yet so with another 593 accounted for quests of which a good portion of those are likely solo, I dont think 90 will be difficult to achieve in questing. The only thing I have been disappointed with thus far is that the quests dont provide group updates when questing together ; HOWEVER, the npcs and events for the updates seem to be pretty quick respawns and resets so it isnt terrible either. From my point of view you do need to read the quests text and conversations with the NPC's. Several, after you finish their quest give hints on how to start another quest with them (IE - go find something, earn additional faction, etc).

02-19-2010, 03:56 PM	#14
Balic Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	That is the experience I had as well. I got about 6-7 levels from the solo timelines. I threw a few hours in The Hole with an XP potion to get me to 90.

02-20-2010, 03:14 PM	#15
Kain-UK Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 441	I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions... I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections... Got me from 80 to 86.9. So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad. __________________ Yaevin T'Kar: 90/250 Conjuror Elnan Tarmikos: 90/250 Shadowknight Teion Orval: 90/250 Guardian

02-20-2010, 06:08 PM	#16
Krinta Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 63	Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping. I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all

02-20-2010, 09:21 PM	#17
Obadiah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,154	Krinta@The Bazaar wrote: Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping. I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all Of the 3 expansions in which the level cap was raised, only Kunark had solo quests that could take you to the level cap. __________________

02-20-2010, 09:34 PM	#18
Maroger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,313	Kurgan@Everfrost wrote: Krinta@The Bazaar wrote: Past expansion's had quest all over, even well past the level cap. Why does SF not have this I want to know? As it stands I am looking at going back for all the old quest I missed from the moors, and kunark. Tell my friends get leveled for grouping. I dont mind the group quest at all, just seems there was not enough quest at all. Dont really see an exp change helping also. I mean yeah we would level to 90 quicker, But I myself want to keep busy and do quest. As it stands I did em all Of the 3 expansions in which the level cap was raised, only Kunark had solo quests that could take you to the level cap. Remember Scott Hartsman did Kunark and he was probably the best expansion designer and producer SOE ever had. They should try and get him back. Of course this is still a better expansion than TSO- which was a flop. Also geographically speaking Kunark was a whole lot bigger. Odus, if you remember EQ1, was a nothing area with very little in it and quite small - so obviously geographically this is small compared to Kunark. If they ever do Velious that should be large. Hopefully they will see these messages and put in more quests.

02-20-2010, 10:54 PM	#19
Arkenor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 230	Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone? I suspect the main problem is that folks have learned to become extremely efficient when questing, not killing much that doesn't apply to the quests they have. Do some dailies. Find something you want to kill for it's loot. Make your guild happy by doing some writs. Stick your nose into the battlegrounds if thats your sort of thing. Or chronomancer down a bit and do all the quests you missed on the way up. You'll get to 90 soon enough. __________________ Ark's Ark - My blog filled with ill-considered scribbles on MMOs and the Universe

02-22-2010, 05:26 AM	#20
Lomograph Server: Unrest Guild: Eternal Shadows Rank: Public Enemy Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 12	Maltheas@Lucan DLere wrote: Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone? No, but it'd be nice to hit 90 from solo quest xp alone It really strikes me as odd going from a huge amount of quests in The Sundered Frontier, to a small hand full in Stonebrunt. It's just not consistent and it feels somewhat lazy. __________________

02-23-2010, 11:22 AM	#21
DngrMou General Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,286	Kain-UK wrote: I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions... I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections... Got me from 80 to 86.9. So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad. I don't understand how this is possible, unless you started with quite a bit of XP debt, and had your xp slider set above 0. I did all the solo quests, a good amount of collection quests, Roekilik L&L, a few group quests, and a few other body drop quests, and got to 89, without the use of xp pots.

02-23-2010, 01:00 PM	#22
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Currently at 87.3 only solo questlines ths far and plenty more to go. Additional questing, including solo repeatables keep opening up with more questing and leveling. Keep checking back on areas you have visited and talk with npcs, even ones without feathers. Some start questlines that dont have feathers, not sure if that is intended or not but it makes it interesting for sure.

02-23-2010, 04:27 PM	#23
redmond_giant Master Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	colleen wrote: This is frustrating to say the least. When you get to SF, the quests are blue and stay there throughout - with only the occasional white or yellow con quest unless you go off the beaten path - for instance, to Kerra Island before finishing up Paineel. When you get to stonebrunt, the quests are yellow/orange and stay there, and do not seem to progress you that far. Is this expansion finished? Kunark has perhaps twice as many solo quests as you need to level from 70 to 80. SF... not so much. It's very confusing, especially since SF quests - despite being a linear progression - are sometimes unclear about what to do or where to go next. Clearly they didn't finish the higher-end quest progression. The entire NE quadrant of Tox Forest (the entire purple area around the Tox Forest Station and Lair) has no quests at all (probably [84-85] ones if it had any). This is a major source of the feeling of a "gap" from finishing off the Pandas/Kerra (where quests are all blue/white) then jumping to Stonebrunt Highlands (where quests are all yellow+). It isn't a problem doing yellow quests, it is the fact that we incur a "quest level deficit" that you never really recover until you run out of quests. Sure, you can mentor down, craft, run instances, all sorts of ways to make up the XP. But the fact that soloable quest lines alone comfortably get you to 90 without SIGNIFICANT grinding or alternate means of XP is a true one. My Illy has done only questing (no crafting, mentoring down or much instancing yet) just to see how solo quest progression goes. I am mid-85 but doing 86-88 quests in Highlands (currently I am mostly through the Que'leh or whatever area). And I haven't missed any quest hubs that I know of, just a couple isolated quests others have mentioned.

02-23-2010, 05:53 PM	#24
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Maltheas@Lucan DLere wrote: Strictly speaking, do we really need to be able to hit level 90 after a week from solo quest xp alone? Absolutely not. A game designed this way produces boat loads of player starting the cooperative game at cap with no practical knowledge of how their class is played. Healers who don't have 'cure' on their hotbars. Tanks that don't understand what a taunt is. Players that don't understand hate transfers, etc, etc. Since 90% or more of the players time is spent at cap, it serves the community better to reinforce and reward skills that the player needs to know when they get there. __________________

02-23-2010, 06:04 PM	#25
Talazar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 102	Kain-UK wrote: I did all of SH and SF... with XP potions... I also finished all collection quests in both zones, plus the crystals collections... Got me from 80 to 86.9. So no, I don't think there are enough quests in the game to get people to 90... which is sad. afaik xp pots do not augment experience gained for completing quests.

02-23-2010, 07:27 PM	#26
Gnova Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 60	The lack of solo content to take a player from 81-90 in Odus is a launch only issue. With the way the xp has been adjusted from level 65+ a player will hit level 80 far before they finish RoK, TSO, or the added lavastorm quests. Future solo players will likely be 85ish before setting foot in Odus. There is a glut of quests for level 70-80 atm and adding another 100-150 quests into Odus for soloers to be able to solo cap at launch would only add to it. Also, any more solo Odus quests and the 250AAs would come too quickly.

02-24-2010, 06:35 PM	#27
Dimhammer Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 154	I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there. __________________ Dimitus 90 Monk Physar 90 Assassin Dimwood 90 Fury Dimitunes 90 Dirge Diihoib 90 Coercer Cywath 90 Warlock Dimisitor 90 Inquisitor Delath 90 Shadowknight

02-24-2010, 07:47 PM	#28
DngrMou General Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,286	Dimhammer wrote: I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there. I don't understand the reasoning behind the demand that level 90 be accomplished in only a week's time, and only by solo quests.

02-25-2010, 12:49 AM	#29
Hamervelder Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,585	DngrMouse wrote: Dimhammer wrote: I did every single Overland quest there is in both zones without any exp potions. Also did 2 Heritage Quests and the Roekilik L&L. After all that I just barely dinged level 87. So yeah I agree there is not enough solo quests out there. I don't understand the reasoning behind the demand that level 90 be accomplished in only a week's time, and only by solo quests. I concur. I don't want to hit 90 in a week, or even a month. Then what am I going to do? Run instances over and over? Where's the fun in that? I don't want to be 90/250 in a month or six weeks. __________________ Elhonas Warden of Mayhem, Antonia Bayle

02-25-2010, 11:51 AM	#30
SirDinadan Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 195	It's fairly clear to me the quest lines won't get me to 90, but I'm not too upset at that. I had the same issue getting to 70, and survived the shiny-grubbing and instance-crawling to finish the task. But the thinness of the quest series for SF has exhausted my patience in a different way. Most of the other expansions had quest groupings, in addition to quest lines. You could go to Bonemire.. or Loping.. and of course any of the Kunark zones.. and get 5 to 10 quests at a time, to be done simultaneously in one tour of the zone. The only location that has even come close to that for me so far was Moonfield Hamlet. Every other place seems to be "Here's a quest. Run back and forth. Here's another quest. Run back and forth." Long chains of sequential quests that are 95% percent travel and 5% quest-related kills or harvests. And way too many require that the travel goes back and forth to other zones simply to extend the time it takes to complete them. I'm about ready to claw my own eyes out in desperation, and this is only character #1 of 7 to level to 90.