Fippy Darkpaw in the Peacock Club

Mixxit · 01-14-2010, 08:59 PM

I am working on this questline at the moment and noticed him in there - he mentions that he is here on behalf of the hand, any ideas what their involvement is?

Cusashorn · 01-14-2010, 10:01 PM

The Circle of the Unseen hand seems to get around to everyone and everything. They have connections to almost anything, but have yet to play any more involvement in the story other than the Dark Guantlets heritage quest, where they pretty much abduct you and take you to a secret location, where they then tell you that you must keep their secret a secret AND work for them, or they will kill you where you stand.

I haven't gotten any further than that.

Mixxit · 01-14-2010, 10:59 PM

Thanks i'll have to check that out too!

Also, is there any reason why it's year 0 in the peacock club but the year 3805 in maj'dul?

Cusashorn · 01-15-2010, 02:34 AM

If you're refering to the games /time command, it varies from individual character to individual character, so there's no official date the game takes place in other than the always eternal 500 A.K, even with the game acknowledging the passing of 5 years through a live event.

Mixxit · 01-15-2010, 08:16 AM

Boo!

Zabjade · 01-16-2010, 12:06 AM

Just wish they would update the look of the place some (Other then the loss of a certain Puppeteer), like bring the appearance in line with the new houses---Don't forget the Vahlen Plushie!!! Heck give him some music!!! Add more Characters, Have more possible quest branches there (Most solo but a few Sharable group ones) and update what is sold there I'm tired of the Blank screen because I outgrew the club's tier. (Maybe add in some fun/Lore-ish items)

Methrill.Rundran · 01-17-2010, 01:15 AM

I seem to remember the dragon Gorenaire disguises himself as a member of the Circle of the Unseen Hand (E'Naire). He steals the Qeynos Claymore with some other members of the Hand and heads to the Kingdom of Sky with it.

Cusashorn · 01-17-2010, 02:25 AM

Methrill.Rundran wrote:

I seem to remember the dragon Gorenaire disguises himself as a member of the Circle of the Unseen Hand (E'Naire). He steals the Qeynos Claymore with some other members of the Hand and heads to the Kingdom of Sky with it.

When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line.

Rainmare · 01-17-2010, 05:11 PM

you find that out pretty early on if I remember right. the ring leader of the theft of the claymore was a darkelf called E'Naire, adn once they had the claymore adn got out, E'naire took off to KoS with it, revealing to her accomplices who she really was.

As to the Unseen Hand...they are like the Mafia. they are the power in the crimminal world, and there are 'Cells' of them, each with it's own leader that all keep in contact to a overall head. adn there's a cell in qeynos, freeport, neriak, gorowyn, and butcherblock. they run all the criminal world.

The Freethinkers are like the illuminati. they are secret, but they have ties to everyone and everything. It's not really a surprise that they have connections to the Unseen Hand. if you ever need anything done in an underhanded or a shady way, or need to deal with such people, you pretty much have to go through the Unseen Hand if you want to keep the deck stack in your favor.

Methrill.Rundran · 01-19-2010, 10:52 PM

ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire.

Cusashorn · 01-19-2010, 11:49 PM

Methrill.Rundran wrote:

ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire.

Again, I haven't (and really can't) complete the line, so it actually is confirmed that they are one and the same? Actual dialogues and revelations, and not just putting two and two together?

shadowscale · 01-20-2010, 12:35 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

Methrill.Rundran wrote:
ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire.
Again, I haven't (and really can't) complete the line, so it actually is confirmed that they are one and the same? Actual dialogues and revelations, and not just putting two and two together?

its confermed in game during the quest line.

Cusashorn · 01-20-2010, 02:54 AM

Cool. Good enough for me. I just wanted to remove any remaining skepticism I had.

Actually, it also partially satisfies my curiosity as to why Gorenaire even joined the Cult of the Awakened to begin with. I remember hearing Talendor having a reason, and that Gorenaire basically followed him because she had nothing better to do.

Morghus · 01-20-2010, 03:16 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

Cool. Good enough for me. I just wanted to remove any remaining skepticism I had.
Actually, it also partially satisfies my curiosity as to why Gorenaire even joined the Cult of the Awakened to begin with. I remember hearing Talendor having a reason, and that Gorenaire basically followed him because she had nothing better to do.

Their reasons for going after one another is likely an issue of trying to one-up or otherwise foil each other. They clearly have no love for the other from what I could tell. When you kill Talendor his spirit even says "At least I did not die to the claw of that minor dragon, Gorenaire".

Methrill.Rundran · 01-20-2010, 06:18 AM

It's at the end of the epic x2... you inspect the base of a statue in Ascent of the Awakened and find a note which reads: We do not need Aaryonar intruding : I did not tread upon the streets of Qeynos and steal the claymore from under the nose of their elite Royal Antonican Guards for the new order only to have our plans thwarted by Aaryonar ! It was revolting assuming that teir ′dal form and allowing the lessers to call me E′Naire: I am not Darathar ! I cannot hold my disguise for very long : I have another request : Send forth our assassins to slay the meddling hooluk ; the one with the incessant chattering : He has read the Codex of Totems and might unwittingly release the process of imbuing the totem: We do not need Aaryonar alerting Vyemm: - Gorenaire

Mixxit · 01-20-2010, 06:53 AM

What is the totem she mentions?

Rezikai · 01-20-2010, 12:33 PM

it's possibly a hint to use the aITEM -423963046 -158887210:The Totem of Aaryonar/a

as later in the quest you use the totem to summon Aaryonar's essence ( a cute little baby dragon) and he proceeds further with the quest.

Terron · 01-21-2010, 12:34 PM

Cusashorn wrote:

When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line.

You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress.

urgthock · 01-21-2010, 01:16 PM

Terron@Splitpaw wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:
When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line.
You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress.

Especially with the level cap raised to 90 in a month.

Rainmare · 01-21-2010, 08:51 PM

Gorenaire and Talendor have always been rivals, they were in EQ1 too. Though I've always seen it as more of a sibling rivalry, just trying to one up or outdo eachother. Although I coulda swore in this case it was Gore that joined first, then Talendor followed to make sure Gore didn't gain any advantages over him.

The_Cheeseman · 01-26-2010, 10:36 AM

urgthock wrote:

Terron@Splitpaw wrote:
Cusashorn wrote:
When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line.
You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress.
Especially with the level cap raised to 90 in a month.

Most of the MOBs needed for the quest are soloable at 80, let alone 90, but unfortunately, the Ornate Eyes needed for the quest are chest drops, requiring that the MOBs con green. It is still easily duo-able or trio-able, however, and anybody who sent a shout-out in level chat could probably round-up enough interested parties to give it a shot. I dredge-up folks for old-school raids all the time just for kicks. Heck, I managed to recruit 4 of my guildies to take-on the x4 version of Ascent, so it isn't as if it's hard.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that, by the end of the Dark Mail Guantlets questline, you have become the Voice--leader of your very own cell of the Hand. You can even buy some nifty-looking armor and house items, not to mention the titles you get via the quests.

01-14-2010, 08:59 PM	#1
Mixxit Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 465	I am working on this questline at the moment and noticed him in there - he mentions that he is here on behalf of the hand, any ideas what their involvement is? __________________ --------------- Alluvial, Order of Thunder @ Antonia Bayle Maintainer of Lore of Norrath Need lore? EQ Timeline

01-14-2010, 10:59 PM	#3
Mixxit Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 465	Thanks i'll have to check that out too! Also, is there any reason why it's year 0 in the peacock club but the year 3805 in maj'dul? __________________ --------------- Alluvial, Order of Thunder @ Antonia Bayle Maintainer of Lore of Norrath Need lore? EQ Timeline

01-15-2010, 08:16 AM	#5
Mixxit Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 465	Boo! __________________ --------------- Alluvial, Order of Thunder @ Antonia Bayle Maintainer of Lore of Norrath Need lore? EQ Timeline

01-16-2010, 12:06 AM	#6
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	Just wish they would update the look of the place some (Other then the loss of a certain Puppeteer), like bring the appearance in line with the new houses---Don't forget the Vahlen Plushie!!! Heck give him some music!!! Add more Characters, Have more possible quest branches there (Most solo but a few Sharable group ones) and update what is sold there I'm tired of the Blank screen because I outgrew the club's tier. (Maybe add in some fun/Lore-ish items) __________________

01-17-2010, 02:25 AM	#8
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Methrill.Rundran wrote: I seem to remember the dragon Gorenaire disguises himself as a member of the Circle of the Unseen Hand (E'Naire). He steals the Qeynos Claymore with some other members of the Hand and heads to the Kingdom of Sky with it. When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line.

01-14-2010, 10:01 PM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	The Circle of the Unseen hand seems to get around to everyone and everything. They have connections to almost anything, but have yet to play any more involvement in the story other than the Dark Guantlets heritage quest, where they pretty much abduct you and take you to a secret location, where they then tell you that you must keep their secret a secret AND work for them, or they will kill you where you stand. I haven't gotten any further than that.

01-15-2010, 02:34 AM	#4
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	If you're refering to the games /time command, it varies from individual character to individual character, so there's no official date the game takes place in other than the always eternal 500 A.K, even with the game acknowledging the passing of 5 years through a live event.

01-17-2010, 01:15 AM	#7
Methrill.Rundran Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 34	I seem to remember the dragon Gorenaire disguises himself as a member of the Circle of the Unseen Hand (E'Naire). He steals the Qeynos Claymore with some other members of the Hand and heads to the Kingdom of Sky with it.

01-17-2010, 05:11 PM	#9
Rainmare Server: Oasis Guild: Pillage Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,982	you find that out pretty early on if I remember right. the ring leader of the theft of the claymore was a darkelf called E'Naire, adn once they had the claymore adn got out, E'naire took off to KoS with it, revealing to her accomplices who she really was. As to the Unseen Hand...they are like the Mafia. they are the power in the crimminal world, and there are 'Cells' of them, each with it's own leader that all keep in contact to a overall head. adn there's a cell in qeynos, freeport, neriak, gorowyn, and butcherblock. they run all the criminal world. The Freethinkers are like the illuminati. they are secret, but they have ties to everyone and everything. It's not really a surprise that they have connections to the Unseen Hand. if you ever need anything done in an underhanded or a shady way, or need to deal with such people, you pretty much have to go through the Unseen Hand if you want to keep the deck stack in your favor.

01-19-2010, 10:52 PM	#10
Methrill.Rundran Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 34	ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire.

01-19-2010, 11:49 PM	#11
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Methrill.Rundran wrote: ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire. Again, I haven't (and really can't) complete the line, so it actually is confirmed that they are one and the same? Actual dialogues and revelations, and not just putting two and two together?

01-20-2010, 12:35 AM	#12
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	Cusashorn wrote: Methrill.Rundran wrote: ha, thanks for the feedback guys, I didn't even know that E'naire was female! There's no mention of that in the Claymore line. You are told that E'naire is the main thief of the Claymore at the beginning of the quest line but if I remember correctly, it's only once you reach barren sky (perhaps just before the x2 AoA raid, or even as a result of completing that) that you learn that E'naire is GorE'naire. Again, I haven't (and really can't) complete the line, so it actually is confirmed that they are one and the same? Actual dialogues and revelations, and not just putting two and two together? its confermed in game during the quest line.

01-20-2010, 02:54 AM	#13
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Cool. Good enough for me. I just wanted to remove any remaining skepticism I had. Actually, it also partially satisfies my curiosity as to why Gorenaire even joined the Cult of the Awakened to begin with. I remember hearing Talendor having a reason, and that Gorenaire basically followed him because she had nothing better to do.

01-20-2010, 03:16 AM	#14
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Cusashorn wrote: Cool. Good enough for me. I just wanted to remove any remaining skepticism I had. Actually, it also partially satisfies my curiosity as to why Gorenaire even joined the Cult of the Awakened to begin with. I remember hearing Talendor having a reason, and that Gorenaire basically followed him because she had nothing better to do. Their reasons for going after one another is likely an issue of trying to one-up or otherwise foil each other. They clearly have no love for the other from what I could tell. When you kill Talendor his spirit even says "At least I did not die to the claw of that minor dragon, Gorenaire".

01-20-2010, 06:18 AM	#15
Methrill.Rundran Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 34	It's at the end of the epic x2... you inspect the base of a statue in Ascent of the Awakened and find a note which reads: We do not need Aaryonar intruding : I did not tread upon the streets of Qeynos and steal the claymore from under the nose of their elite Royal Antonican Guards for the new order only to have our plans thwarted by Aaryonar ! It was revolting assuming that teir ′dal form and allowing the lessers to call me E′Naire: I am not Darathar ! I cannot hold my disguise for very long : I have another request : Send forth our assassins to slay the meddling hooluk ; the one with the incessant chattering : He has read the Codex of Totems and might unwittingly release the process of imbuing the totem: We do not need Aaryonar alerting Vyemm: - Gorenaire

01-20-2010, 06:53 AM	#16
Mixxit Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 465	What is the totem she mentions? __________________ --------------- Alluvial, Order of Thunder @ Antonia Bayle Maintainer of Lore of Norrath Need lore? EQ Timeline

01-20-2010, 12:33 PM	#17
Rezikai Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 561	it's possibly a hint to use the aITEM -423963046 -158887210:The Totem of Aaryonar/a as later in the quest you use the totem to summon Aaryonar's essence ( a cute little baby dragon) and he proceeds further with the quest. __________________

01-21-2010, 12:34 PM	#18
Terron Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, England Posts: 2,309	Cusashorn wrote: When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line. You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress. __________________

01-21-2010, 01:16 PM	#19
urgthock Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 1,308	Terron@Splitpaw wrote: Cusashorn wrote: When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line. You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress. Especially with the level cap raised to 90 in a month.

01-21-2010, 08:51 PM	#20
Rainmare Server: Oasis Guild: Pillage Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,982	Gorenaire and Talendor have always been rivals, they were in EQ1 too. Though I've always seen it as more of a sibling rivalry, just trying to one up or outdo eachother. Although I coulda swore in this case it was Gore that joined first, then Talendor followed to make sure Gore didn't gain any advantages over him.

01-26-2010, 10:36 AM	#21
The_Cheeseman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,285	urgthock wrote: Terron@Splitpaw wrote: Cusashorn wrote: When did She get involved with the Claymore? I haven't been able to complete it because of that stupid epic x2 zone they stick right in the middle of the line. You could almost certainly duo it with a healer, though a DPSer would speed things up. You only need to do the lower two levels to progress. Especially with the level cap raised to 90 in a month. Most of the MOBs needed for the quest are soloable at 80, let alone 90, but unfortunately, the Ornate Eyes needed for the quest are chest drops, requiring that the MOBs con green. It is still easily duo-able or trio-able, however, and anybody who sent a shout-out in level chat could probably round-up enough interested parties to give it a shot. I dredge-up folks for old-school raids all the time just for kicks. Heck, I managed to recruit 4 of my guildies to take-on the x4 version of Ascent, so it isn't as if it's hard. EDIT: Forgot to mention that, by the end of the Dark Mail Guantlets questline, you have become the Voice--leader of your very own cell of the Hand. You can even buy some nifty-looking armor and house items, not to mention the titles you get via the quests. __________________