Thumore D'armer [MASSIVE SPOILER]

[Cusashorn]

Homeskillet wrote:

Actually, just going through this quest and reading what I have read here...Morrel Thule seems to make more sense than anything.

I'm reading that you get "The Dream Hero" as a title from the quest. Morrell Thule is the God of Dreams, so this makes sense to me. He's not the type to discriminate against good or evil, but Kerafyrm is the type to flat out refuse all attempts at mortals helping him.

[Kriptini]

Cusashorn wrote:

With the way we've been lead up these last few years as to what has happened to her, her revival will be inevitable. You don't just kill a god, let the players find out that she is dead by seeing her body, learning that Innoruuk was the one responsible for causing her death, and just leave it at that.

There has never been any story about Erollisi fighting against Innoruuk in the past. You don't just introduce a story and say it all happened and that one side won. If you do, you don't allow the players to get involved in the story and still decide that the evil god who won will still win.

No, you start investigating how to bring her back and eventually do so. She was a major diety in EQlive and has always had a huge fanbase following for roleplay reasons and whatnot. They wouldn't just write a story out of the blue that is so shallow as to just give Innoruuk his victory without there being any conflict in obtaining it.

Or, maybe it's not as we thought. Maybe we can't bring her back, but we can get revenge by going over to Innoruuk and smacking him around. We can learn his motives, his final plot, and put an end to it in the name of Erollisi. Her being dead is huge, it'll drive her followers to really move and do something. But if she comes back as you said, everything will go back to normal. /yawn

Would someone like to post any known lore on Morrel Thule, so we can look at it all at once?

[Meirril]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Mirander@Unrest wrote:

Sounds like Morrel Thule to me.

Nope, you're wrong.

Actually this totally sounds like Morrel Thule, the god of dreams. While the rest of the Thule family are firmly in the "bad stuff" category (you wouldn't want to meet his father, or sister) Morrel himself is rather neutral. Having him return in the next exapsion as a worshipable diety should be fun.

[Kriptini]

Speculating the amount of evidence, it could go either way at this point. The guy was pretty nice and the God of Dreams, which leads to Morrel Thule, but he was also associated with "sleep" and very cunning at using you to get what he wanted, as we've seen Kyrafyrm do with some of the other dragons.

[Meirril]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Speculating the amount of evidence, it could go either way at this point. The guy was pretty nice and the God of Dreams, which leads to Morrel Thule, but he was also associated with "sleep" and very cunning at using you to get what he wanted, as we've seen Kyrafyrm do with some of the other dragons.

Morrel Thule is best known for stealing Mithanial Marr's stolen gift of life away from Cazic and Innoruuk. He was able to scatter half of it in the Innothule swamps and the other half he desposited in Erollisi Marr through her dreams. This guy is sly. Its perectly believeable that he would trick players into helping him without revealing either his true intentions or identity. Indeed, if Morrel Thule was brought low enough, he might not even realize who he really is until the players helped him restore his own memories by gathering fragments of dreams.

[Cusashorn]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Would someone like to post any known lore on Morrel Thule, so we can look at it all at once?

Morrell Thule is the God of Dreams. The Black Sheep of the Thule family, because he is actually Neutral-Good compared to Cazic and Terris, who are both strictly evil.

Many aeons ago, Cazic and Terris Thule actually managed to trap Mithanial Marr. They tortured him non-stop, with full intention of corrupting him to join thier side. If they could not do that, then killing him would suffice.

They killed him. Much as how Erollisi herself is dead right now, they killed Mithanial back then. However, before he died, Morrell Thule stepped in to help him. He split his spirit into two forms and sent them off to Norrath.

The first half of his spirit inhabited the frogs of Innothule Swamp. They evolved into the original Frogloks and kicked the Trolls out of their own city fortress of Guk. These same frogloks would later again be transformed by Mithanial Marr, but that is another story.

The 2nd half was physically impregnated into his sister Erollisi, who in her young existance, was walking around Norrath and enjoying the hospitality of the high elves in Felwithe.

As incestuous as it sounds, she gave birth to the Barbarians, who in time would grow into thier own race and culture. During a time of need, the Barbarians had been called to help out the Frogloks down in

Innothule Swamp. When the two races met, both halfs of Mithanial Marr's spirit formed back together and he was reborn.

There isn't too much more that is known about Morrell Thule, but we know he is the God of Dreams, he is not well favored by his father or sister, and despite being good in morality, does not discriminate against good or evil mortals.

[Kamimura]

Acuza@The Bazaar wrote:

seeing as how I think the sleeping person was a Barbarian male (although I can't be sure).

No, he's a human, not a barbarian. I can't really see this being about Erollisi, sure there's always a posibility, but it seems unlikely and nothing in the quest really points to that. Kerafyrm, maybe, but that also seems unlikely.. Morrel was the first to come to mind when I ran the quest, to be honest. However, it's not like there's a decent amount of evidence to really point to anything so far.

[Homeskillet]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Speculating the amount of evidence, it could go either way at this point. The guy was pretty nice and the God of Dreams, which leads to Morrel Thule, but he was also associated with "sleep" and very cunning at using you to get what he wanted, as we've seen Kyrafyrm do with some of the other dragons.

Because the God of Dreams has nothing to do with sleep.

Also, it may be a stretch but "D'armer" could be a play on words, as it is rather close to the word "dormir", which in Spanish and French means sleep. So...Morrel Thule sleeps? I dunno, plausible.

[Kriptini]

The guy states that the memories are not his, but memories of other people. Sounds like it very well could be Morrell Thule. Darn. And I wanted to fight a challenging non-zombie Dragon for once.

[Kriptini]

Homeskillet wrote:

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Speculating the amount of evidence, it could go either way at this point. The guy was pretty nice and the God of Dreams, which leads to Morrel Thule, but he was also associated with "sleep" and very cunning at using you to get what he wanted, as we've seen Kyrafyrm do with some of the other dragons.

Because the God of Dreams has nothing to do with sleep.

Also, it may be a stretch but "D'armer" could be a play on words, as it is rather close to the word "dormir", which in Spanish and French means sleep. So...Morrel Thule sleeps? I dunno, plausible.

"The Sleeper" having something to do with sleep? No way...

Your statement is about as valid as the one I just made.

[Homeskillet]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Homeskillet wrote:

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Speculating the amount of evidence, it could go either way at this point. The guy was pretty nice and the God of Dreams, which leads to Morrel Thule, but he was also associated with "sleep" and very cunning at using you to get what he wanted, as we've seen Kyrafyrm do with some of the other dragons.

Because the God of Dreams has nothing to do with sleep.

Also, it may be a stretch but "D'armer" could be a play on words, as it is rather close to the word "dormir", which in Spanish and French means sleep. So...Morrel Thule sleeps? I dunno, plausible.

"The Sleeper" having something to do with sleep? No way...

Your statement is about as valid as the one I just made.

No, not really, because by that argument it could mean anyone, because *gasp* every mortal sleeps too! And...they have hair, and this guy has hair right?!

Rather, a man who seems to inspire beliefs and thoughts in others through dreams, that exists in a realm of slumber and has had shards of himself scattered about, relates rather closely to Morrell Thule. Having a shard of himself in a "Memory of Sky"? I believe it said somewhere in lore that Veeshan slumbered in a part of the Plane of Sky that only Morrel Thule could access, I may be wrong on that but I am fairly sure.

Kerafyrm on the otherhand was a xenophobic psychopath who went into a murderous blood rage on his own kind over the firm belief that those that came after the dragon should be exterminated from the holy ground marked for Dragonkind. I sincerely doubt he would be this benign. Also, as others have said, Kerafyrm awakened, he has a sexy cult in the remnents of the Plane of Sky and even got many of the dragons on Norrath from both Velious and Kunark to follow in lockstep behind him by leading this cult.

[Homeskillet]

More evidence to support the Morrell Thule theory... a memory lost within a maze born of madness, didn't the Plane of Nightmares have a maze? It is also the hedge maze in Unrest specifically cursed by another member of the Thule family...the hedge is guarded by Satyrs, a being of which Morrel Thule shared some similarities with as far as how he often appeared.

[Kriptini]

Homeskillet wrote:

Rather, a man who seems to inspire beliefs and thoughts in others through dreams, that exists in a realm of slumber and has had shards of himself scattered about, relates rather closely to Morrell Thule. Having a shard of himself in a "Memory of Sky"? I believe it said somewhere in lore that Veeshan slumbered in a part of the Plane of Sky that only Morrel Thule could access, I may be wrong on that but I am fairly sure.

When you're less sarcastic about it, your arguments are much more valid.

Homeskillet wrote:

Kerafyrm on the otherhand was a xenophobic psychopath who went into a murderous blood rage on his own kind over the firm belief that those that came after the dragon should be exterminated from the holy ground marked for Dragonkind. I sincerely doubt he would be this benign. Also, as others have said, Kerafyrm awakened, he has a sexy cult in the remnents of the Plane of Sky and even got many of the dragons on Norrath from both Velious and Kunark to follow in lockstep behind him by leading this cult.

We've been thrown curveballs before. Though at this point in time, it's looking like a 99% chance of bein Morrell. Unless of course, we're forgetting someone.

[Kriptini]

Homeskillet wrote:

More evidence to support the Morrell Thule theory...didn't the Plane of Nightmares have a maze? It is also the hedge maze in Unrest specifically cursed by another member of the Thule family...the hedge is guarded by Satyrs, a being of which Morrel Thule shared some similarities with as far as how he often appeared.

And as it turns out, the memory fragment wasn't even in the hedge maze.

[Homeskillet]

Well, that was honestly just a lame reaching connection like you were making with the whole Sleeper thing.

The real connection is that Unrest itself is cursed primarily due to the intervention of Morrell's father, Cazic Thule. The entire place has a history of murder and madness.

Also, touching back on "A Memory of Sky", depending on how much EQ2 devs follow it, EQ Atlas did indeed mention a rumor that Veeshan "lies in indefinite slumber, her consciousness and essence residing safely in the realm of dreams govered by the benevolent deity, Morrell-Thule."

[Taurus_WD]

Sorry, I missed the quest text from the first person.  So, this starts with me hailing Drakin Hammerheart.

You say, "Hail, Drakin Hammerheart"Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "Ah, greetings! Now, I hate to seem rude, but I need to ask you not to distract me... I have some thinking to do."You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "Actually, Drakin, I am looking for you. I believe you were searching for someone named Thumore?"Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "Ah, you are correct! You must be searching for him as well, then? Of course you are. What would the Heroes' Festival be without him here? Well, the good news is, I've found him!"You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "That is good news! Where is he now? Is he planning to join in the festivities now?"Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "Well, no. Not exactly. It seems that our favorite hero has... well... fallen asleep."You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "Wait... what? He's asleep? Why not rouse him? It seems a lot of people are waiting for him out there."Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "I would, but a few mages appear to be guarding him. They were quite adamant about not waking him or even touching him. I have been thinking of a way that maybe I could sneak around them, but they keep thwarting my efforts!"You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "So, just so I'm clear - he's asleep, and some wizards won't let you wake him up? Why?"Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "They didn't really say. I just know they ushered me out before I could say too much."You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "Hmm. Maybe I'll go check this out for myself, then. Where are they at?"Drakin Hammerheart says to you, "They're through this door right here. Be careful, though -- like I said, they don't like people in there."You say to Drakin Hammerheart, "Thanks for the warning. Farewell for now, Drakin."

After that I moved inside the building, and I've included both the results of hailing the investigators and Dalhya.

You say, "Hail, An investigator"an investigator says, "Waking the sleeping one is dangerous! Keep your distance."You say, "Hail, An investigator"an investigator says, "Do not touch the sleeping one. You might never wake again."You say, "Hail, Dalhya Felshire"Dalhya Felshire says to you, "You should leave here. Do not wake the sleeping one."You say to Dalhya Felshire, "You mean Thumore? I have to admit, that seems like a strange demand. Why would a group of mages need to protect a sleeping man?"Dalhya Felshire says to you, "It is not to protect him. It is to protect others. His sleep is not natural, and has proven dangerous to our own colleagues who attempted to discern what was keeping him from waking."You say to Dalhya Felshire, "Interesting. So, those who touched him fell asleep themselves?"Dalhya Felshire says to you, "That is correct. When they fell asleep, their movements and even their breathing seemed to match his. We were able to move those that slumbered in this way without falling asleep ourselves, but touching Thumore always produces the same result. I fear he may be beyond aid."You say to Dalhya Felshire, "Hmm... same movements and breathing? Is it possible they are being pulled into whatever dream state that Thumore is in?"Dalhya Felshire says to you, "We pondered that possibility, but none have awoken since they fell into the slumber. It's not worth sacrificing anyone else to attempt to verify that theory, so we can't be certain exactly what it is that's happening. We theorize that they are entering the same dream that he is in."You say to Dalhya Felshire, "So, something like a dream world, then? That's interesting. I wonder if there might be more to this, though."Dalhya Felshire says to you, "You can't be thinking about trying to enter the dream yourself, can you? We have no idea what is actually happening! It's possible that we might never be able to wake you again!"You say to Dalhya Felshire, "I take the chance of never returning every time I venture out beyond the city walls. And if Thumore is as important as everyone is saying, then it would be worth finding a way to rouse him."Dalhya Felshire says to you, "That's very true. But what do you hope to accomplish? What is it you're going to do once you enter the dream?"You say to Dalhya Felshire, "I wish I could say, but I've faced enough of the unknown to be able to take care of myself. There must be a way to bring him out of his slumber, and the key must be in the dream."Dalhya Felshire says to you, "Well, I'm not going attempt to talk you out of it any further, if your desire is truly to end up as our other researchers. Although this might be the only way to help Thumore, I urge you to consider what you're doing."You say to Dalhya Felshire, "I have. Farewell for now."

 Then you move in to the dream world by choosing to fall asleep after interacting with the sleeping person on the floor.

You have entered A Collection of Dreams.You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Ah... you have come. I was afraid that you might not, and I would be trapped here for an eternity."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Thumore, I take it? And how could you be expecting me? You are fast asleep in the world beyond this one."Thumore D'armer says to you, "Why would you assume that being in slumber would prevent awareness of the outside world? Nothing is further from the truth -- we are aware of many things when we sleep, from the outside world to what truly resides in our hearts. We are blind to nothing."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Be that as it may, you seem unable to leave this dream state you are in. If you are aware of so many things, why can you not wake yourself?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Because, as I said, we can see what is truly within our hearts, and mine is not complete. I cannot leave here until I recover those parts that are missing. Since I cannot leave here, however, I am unable to complete this task."You say to Thumore D'armer, "And this is why you brought me here, I take it?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Correct. I need those pieces of me that are missing, that have been scattered across Norrath. With these lost shards of myself, I can finally emerge from this dream I have woven for myself, and return to Norrath as I have longed to do."You say to Thumore D'armer, "And where might these pieces be?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "In many places, and all in one place. They are caught within the memories of places on Norrath -- inaccessible from the physical world, but floating in the remnants of thought and conscienceness. It is there you will find the parts of my spirit that have broken away."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Hmm... if they are not in the physical world, how will I find them then?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Fear not, for although they are not in a place you can walk to, they are someplace you can travel to, as you do when you drift into your own dreams when you sleep. I will provide you with a means to getting to the places where the shards reside, if you can overcome the challenges and retrieve them for me."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Very well, I can do that for you. Where should I begin searching?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "You must first travel to the sands of the desert, to an observatory within a grand city. It is there that you will find the first shard. Once you have retrieved it, return it to me here."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I will be back once I have found the shard. Farewell."

Go off and complete the DoF Memory of Sand, and this is the next bit:

 You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Ah, you have returned. I trust you have found the missing shard?"You say to Thumore D'armer, "I have located the shard within the Memory of Sand."Thumore D'armer says to you, "Ah, this is excellent! I knew you would be able to find this for me, and with your help, I will soon be complete once again. My thanks to you."You say to Thumore D'armer, "So there are more shards to find then, correct?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "There are more shards to find, and I appreciate you offering to help find them for me. If you are ready, I will open the portal to the next shard."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I am. Where is it I must go to now?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "The next one is within the memory of a palace in the sky, a place ruled by some of the mightiest creatures Norrath has ever known. It is there that you must search for the next shard piece."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Very well, then. I will search for the next piece of shard."

Go off and complete the KoS Memory of ?Sky?, and this is the next bit:

You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "You have returned from the lands of the sky. Were you able to find the lost shard there?"You say to Thumore D'armer, "I was successful in finding the shard piece. Here you are."Thumore D'armer says to you, "You are proving to be quite resourceful in gathering these for me. I can feel my strength returning even now, with only these two pieces. Again, my thanks to you."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I am glad I was able to assist you. Are there more shards to search for?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "I am still missing several pieces in order to make me whole again, and with your help, I believe it is possible to retrieve them. If you are ready, I will open the portal to the next missing shard."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Very well then. Where is it we are going next?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "This next one is lost within a maze borne from madness, and tended by those who no longer draw breath within Norrath. You must search through the maze to locate the shard piece hidden within."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I see. Very well then, I will return when I have found it."

Go off and complete the EoF Memory of ??, and this is the next bit:

You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "And here you are once again. Were you able to find the shard within the maze?"You say to Thumore D'armer, "I was. Here is the shard you were looking for."Thumore D'armer says to you, "And once again, you have come through for me. I cannot express how much I appreciate your help thus far."You say to Thumore D'armer, "You are quite welcome. I am assuming that there is another shard, correct?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "There is another shard hidden within a mighty castle, built long ago by one of the mightiest civilizations that Norrath has ever known. The shard is hidden within its walls, and is guarded well from those that would seek to remove it from that memory. I will open the portal once you are ready to seek it out."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I am ready now. I will do what I can to bring back the shard."Thumore D'armer says to you, "Good luck to you. Again, return to me once you have found the shard."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I will. Farewell for now."

Go off and complete the RoK Memory of ?Scale?, and this is the next bit:

You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "You have returned once more. I trust that you've again located the shard I need?"You say to Thumore D'armer, "I have. Here is the shard."Thumore D'armer says to you, "Again, you have found that which I feared lost to me forever. I am close now to becoming whole once more, and returning back to the world I call home."You say to Thumore D'armer, "I am pleased I was able to help. Are there still more shards?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "Only one more shard remains. It is hidden within a palace lost to existence itself, floating on the edge of pure nothingness. You must search here in order to find the last shard."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Very well then. I will find the last shard."Thumore D'armer says to you, "Then I will open the portal for you. Good luck to you in your search. And my thanks to you once again."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Thank me when I manage to return with the shard. I will be back once I have found it."

Go off and complete the TSO Memory of ??, and this is the final bit:

You say, "Hail, Thumore D'armer"Thumore D'armer says to you, "I have been eagerly awaiting your return. Were you able to find the last shard?"You say to Thumore D'armer, "I believe I was. Is this what you were looking for?"Thumore D'armer says to you, "You have done a tremendous service. Not just to me, but quite possibly, to all of Norrath as well. Now that I have all of the shards of my lost self, I can finally break free of this world, and return to the world I once called home."You say to Thumore D'armer, "You mean to the Heroes' Festival? I know many people were waiting for you."Thumore D'armer says to you, "No... I mean return to the memories and dreams of all across Norrath, return to my place I gave up so long ago. The memories and dreams of Norrath have helped to hold my shattered self until you came to help me gather those shards once again. Now, I am finally whole."You say to Thumore D'armer, "Wait... those weren't your dreams? Just who are you?"You have been granted a new suffix title: the Dream HeroThumore D'armer says to you, "You will know me once again. Now awaken, my friend. Your service will not be forgotten."You say to Thumore D'armer, "You leave me with many questions, but I will take my leave for now. Farewell to you."

[Kriptini]

So Morrell-Thule most have some connection with the Tower of Moon, Karnor's Castle, and (of all places in TSO...) the Palace of Ferzhul/Palace of the Ancient One.

[Taurus_WD]

Based on what you guys have told me about Morrell-Thule, I would have to agree with that sentiment.  The only reason I really had to go with Erollosi, was the talk about the heart and being fractured.  I'm sure if a God was "killed" unless you  have Theer doing the job, I'm guessing there might be a chance that there's fragments all over to be picked up and re-assemble your god.  Kind of a DIY kit for the followers.

Since Morrell seems to be the Sandman of EQ2, it really follows that this is a personification of him.  If you guys have any tips on how you'd like me to re-edit the quest text for readability, please do so.  Maybe the cataclysms and rending that affected Luclin and Norrath fractured some of the God's essences, and this is a God that's finally strong enough to ask you to grab the rest of him.

[Homeskillet]

The one thing I did not mention because it was kind of debunked at the 2008 Lore Panel is that in the Tower of the Moon, there appears to be a third moon, which is rumored to be named Morrell...but the devs said that there was no definitive plans for a third moon and that it was artistic embelleshment...but as I go through the quest everything else seems to have a really firm link to the God of Dreams.

[Kriptini]

Isn't there an article on EQ2i.com about a moon called Morrell? Also, it would make sense that the God of Dreams has a moon. Dreams, associated with sleep, associated with night, associated with the moon.

[Homeskillet]

http://annex.wikia.com/wiki/Norrath

[Kriptini]

I was thinking more along the lines of: http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Morrell

[Homeskillet]

Ah yeah, they both mention Morrell being a moon of Norrath, your link more specifically mentions what I said earlier. They hadn't discussed it at the time so that doesn't really rule it out entirely. It does make sense though. As for Karnor's Castle, I'm not quite sure...I am trying to remember some of the lore of Thuuga and the iksar that were cursed to become the Drolvarg...but aside from that Kunark as a whole has heavy involvement with Morrell's father as Unrest did. As for the Palace, I believe that was meant to represent whatever shattered his essence such that it lingered only in the dreams of all of Norrath, hence "A Memory of Nothingness".

[Anestacia]

Running the quest for a second and third time, I really beleive this heavily eludes to Morell Thule.  Think about it; we see the Plane of Love for the first time in Norrathian history (unless it was in EQOA?  Never played that much.)  The events in the Love Shard tend to be a Prequel to something large on its way.  Obviously Erollisi's death as well as Mithaniel's need to get back to the Plane of Valor.  Now, assuming this asumption is right, we have helped to free Morell Thule thus leading to a new Shard in the future; another Plane we never got to see in EQ.  I know its VERY early for speculation on the expansion following Sentinel's Fate but perhaps we are headed toward a new planes expansion and that makes me very happy. This time around, instead of killing the gods, we would most likely be helping them fight Theer, the god slayer.

[Kriptini]

Well, Coercers are gonna have a diety to choose now. =P

[Mirander_1]

After having actually played through the quest, I'm going to stick with my initial guess that Thumore is Morrel.  Shards of himself are hidden in the dreams of others, he says his home is the world of memories and dreams, and he generally comes across as benevolent.

Morrel was a demigod (or lesser god, one of the two), and many of them didn't make it through whatever happened to the planes in between eq1&2, so it makes sense that he might try to survive by scattering himself amongst the dreams of mortals.

Regarding the people looking for significance in the zones an mobs used, I frankly don't think there is any.  They just used dungeons and mobs unique to each of the expansions (this was the anniversary event, after all).

Oh yeah, for the guy doing the transcript for this quest, I believe the zones are the Memory of Sand, Sky, Echoes, Scale, and Nothingness.

EDIT: oh, for those interested: Morell Thule

[Homeskillet]

Mirander@Unrest wrote:

After having actually played through the quest, I'm going to stick with my initial guess that Thumore is Morrel.  Shards of himself are hidden in the dreams of others, he says his home is the world of memories and dreams, and he generally comes across as benevolent.

Morrel was a demigod (or lesser god, one of the two), and many of them didn't make it through whatever happened to the planes in between eq1&2, so it makes sense that he might try to survive by scattering himself amongst the dreams of mortals.

Regarding the people looking for significance in the zones an mobs used, I frankly don't think there is any.  They just used dungeons and mobs unique to each of the expansions (this was the anniversary event, after all).

Oh yeah, for the guy doing the transcript for this quest, I believe the zones are the Memory of Sand, Sky, Echoes, Scale, and Nothingness.

EDIT: oh, for those interested: Morell Thule

Most of the zones used actually do have some elements of significance to what little we know about Morrell Thule.

[Cusashorn]

Kriptini@Everfrost wrote:

Well, Coercers are gonna have a diety to choose now. =P

No they won't. Morrell Thule is a Good diety, not neutral. He's the Anti-Terris. Dreams and Nightmares and Ying and Yang.

Anyways, it's pretty much agreed that the Kerafyrm theory has been bluntly beaten down at this point, right?

Also: The Palace of Ferzul really has nothing to do with anything anymore. The devs mentioned earlier in the Anniversary Quests thread in the quests forum that that step is being taken out of the game tomorow.

[Gninja]

The step is not being taken out of the quest. Its being changed to not require you to have the TSO Expansion in order to participate in the Anniversary event.

[Cusashorn]

oh.

BTW, I find your sig to be profesionally offensive against all monks. Gnome monks... That's just disgraceful. That's no ninja!