New beasts in SF

Korven · 11-13-2009, 06:36 PM

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5158970#5158970

So, it looks like some of the new creatures we'll be facing are:

a BADASS looking armored Beholder!

new versions of the Naiad, including at least one that is also part Medusa

old fashioned Kerra and Erudites

Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so)

some sort of root monster

Panda people! (I guess the ones from EQ1 evolved quite a bit)

Displacer beasts!

some sort of crystal/rock monsters

a plant based Void Beast

Chimeras, both living and undead

In addition some wyverns, wurms, and a 3 bladed floating contraption that looked pretty much normal.

Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me.

Lethe5683 · 11-13-2009, 08:01 PM

Korven wrote:

Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me.

That was not a ratonga! (I hope). It was [Removed for Content] ugly.

I mean god look at this it's like a zombie sewer rat humanoid.

EVIL RAT

Cusashorn · 11-13-2009, 09:19 PM

Korven wrote:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5158970#5158970
So, it looks like some of the new creatures we'll be facing are:
a BADASS looking armored Beholder!
new versions of the Naiad, including at least one that is also part Medusa
old fashioned Kerra and Erudites
I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance.
Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so)
You mean they're not Satyrs?
some sort of root monster
Panda people! (I guess the ones from EQ1 evolved quite a bit)
Displacer beasts!
some sort of crystal/rock monsters
a plant based Void Beast
Chimeras, both living and undead
In addition some wyverns, wurms, and a 3 bladed floating contraption that looked pretty much normal.
Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me.
More than likely the Roekillik models that we've known have been in the files for some time now. Not a player race, just new mobs. I haven't watched the video yet, so I can't say for sure.

Aurel · 11-13-2009, 09:20 PM

*whine* I wanna see a game use Homer's description of the chimera. Hesiod's is so... overused, it's not really imposing anymore. Homer's Chimera "in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the middle a goat." Not three-headed. Could you imagine coming on a beast that had the head of a lion, a goat's head sprouting from the middle of its back, and a snake for a tail?

However, the nayad that's a cross between Echidna and Medusa looked, admittedly, fairly decent. I hope she's not a raid mob. I want to see her in person. *dreamy eyes*

Korven · 11-13-2009, 10:18 PM

Cusashorn wrote:

Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so)
You mean they're not Satyrs?

Definately not Satyrs, bipedal and goat from head to toe.

Lethe5683 · 11-14-2009, 01:26 AM

Korven wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:
Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so)
You mean they're not Satyrs?
Definately not Satyrs, bipedal and goat from head to toe.

Good, Satyrs are annoying.

Cusashorn · 11-14-2009, 01:34 AM

Aurelis wrote:

*whine* I wanna see a game use Homer's description of the chimera. Hesiod's is so... overused, it's not really imposing anymore. Homer's Chimera "in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the middle a goat." Not three-headed. Could you imagine coming on a beast that had the head of a lion, a goat's head sprouting from the middle of its back, and a snake for a tail?
However, the nayad that's a cross between Echidna and Medusa looked, admittedly, fairly decent. I hope she's not a raid mob. I want to see her in person. *dreamy eyes*

Your description made me instantly think of the Chimera from Final Fantasy 6... but then I googled the picture and see it's pretty much a split between both definitions.

Aurel · 11-14-2009, 01:40 AM

Hehe noo - Not my description, it's Homer's! I prefer Homer's.

That... I don't know what to say about that, other than... That's straying even further from Homer, Hesiod, and even D'n'D. A lion-dragon-goat-hawk-snake-... is that a boar? What? *boggle*

[EDIT: This would be Homer's Chimera. Her siblings are the creatures with multiple heads from the same shoulders... Hydra, Cerberus, Orthrus, etc.]

Cusashorn · 11-14-2009, 01:57 AM

Aurelis wrote:

Hehe noo - Not my description, it's Homer's! I prefer Homer's.
That... I don't know what to say about that, other than... That's straying even further from Homer, Hesiod, and even D'n'D. A lion-dragon-goat-hawk-snake-... is that a boar? What? *boggle*
[EDIT: This would be Homer's Chimera. Her siblings are the creatures with multiple heads from the same shoulders... Hydra, Cerberus, Orthrus, etc.]

But it was your description because you were the one describing Homer's description...

...Yeah.. i'm just arguing semantics here. I got nothing. :p

Aurel · 11-14-2009, 02:12 AM

Touche... Technically, it wasn't a direct quote because I got a word wrong. d: "She was of divine stock, not of men, in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the midst a goat..." (Iliad 6.180) [EDIT: Well, a direct quote of a translation... Technically theoretically, I'd have to give the Greek version, which would be "... πρόσθε λέων, ὄπιθεν δὲ δράκων, μέσση δὲ χίμαιρα..." or anglicanized, something like "prosthe leon, opithen de drakon, messh de chimaira" but... yeah...]

*cough* Back onto the topic, I am curious about these goat- and panda-folk. Do they have like, EQ1 lore history that explains how they fit in? Or are they just for... cuteness?

ZexisStryfe · 11-14-2009, 02:24 AM

That Medusa/Nayad actually has eels for hair ;op

Oh, and yes, that is the Roekilik model wearing one of the 2 scrap-metal armor sets.

The Ibixians are interesting, as are the Crystalfolk, however what really interests me is the fact that there is a race called the "Talonites" which seem to be stoney-skinned Erudites and the newest test patch includes a very familiar race... the Coldain!

Galithdor · 11-14-2009, 03:03 AM

Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...

The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE SMILEY

Lethe5683 · 11-14-2009, 05:27 AM

Galithdor wrote:

Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...

The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE

They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.

Cusashorn · 11-14-2009, 11:30 AM

Aurelis wrote:

*cough* Back onto the topic, I am curious about these goat- and panda-folk. Do they have like, EQ1 lore history that explains how they fit in? Or are they just for... cuteness?

The Ibixians are a brand new creation exclusive to EQ2. They've never existed before. The Pandarians have apparently evolved or otherwise developed their own culture since EQlive. Back then, they were just huge bears who walked upright, but didn't have any intellegence or culture. They were nothing more than another animal in Stonebrundt Mountains.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=16493

I'm glad they did develop them into a race and culture of their own this time around. I always felt they should have one.

Aurel · 11-14-2009, 11:38 AM

I just hope they're not like some other goatfolk I know who can be real grouches sometimes. Well, if they are like him, at least they'll be able to dance...

ZexisStryfe · 11-14-2009, 02:20 PM

Lethe5683 wrote:

Galithdor wrote:
Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...
The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE
They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.

Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt.

Galithdor · 11-14-2009, 02:34 PM

Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Lethe5683 wrote:
Galithdor wrote:
Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...
The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE
They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.
Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt.

Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually!

And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik? SMILEY

Enever · 11-14-2009, 03:17 PM

I beleive the Roekillik were teh first ratonga...or the second ratonga, I'm not sure, but I thinkI recall three ratonga races being created. Two of them were trapped, one escaped. The roekillik will be interesting, overall.

Giraku · 11-14-2009, 05:18 PM

Part of me hopes we see just ONE Panda named (NPC or named monster) Named Po.

J/K

Also, where in the video were there old school Kerra? I saw the flying Erudite, (could see the shine on that forehead from a mile away ) But no Kerran..

Lethe5683 · 11-14-2009, 08:15 PM

Galithdor wrote:

Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Lethe5683 wrote:
Galithdor wrote:
Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...
The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE
They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.
Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt.
Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually!
And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik?

No, I don't like fighting ratonga.

They don't even look like rats either, well actually they do look about like that giant rat they found on some island.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7149799.stm

I guess it kind of makes sense they are to ratonga as gorillas are to humans.

Galithdor · 11-15-2009, 04:26 AM

Lethe5683 wrote:

Galithdor wrote:
Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Lethe5683 wrote:
Galithdor wrote:
Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome...
The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE
They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.
Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt.
Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually!
And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik?
No, I don't like fighting ratonga.
They don't even look like rats either, well actually they do look about like that giant rat they found on some island.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7149799.stm
I guess it kind of makes sense they are to ratonga as gorillas are to humans.

Whoa big rat...

Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like SMILEY

Keikoku · 11-15-2009, 05:22 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

Korven wrote:
old fashioned Kerra and Erudites
I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance.

I'm sure that whatever lore they've got for why Odus was hidden or whatever could be a justifiable reason as to why these Erudites look old school. Can't wait to find out more, myself.

Cusashorn · 11-15-2009, 01:55 PM

Preya@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:
Korven wrote:
old fashioned Kerra and Erudites
I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance.
I'm sure that whatever lore they've got for why Odus was hidden or whatever could be a justifiable reason as to why these Erudites look old school. Can't wait to find out more, myself.

Yes, but Vhalen said it was a UNIVERSAL level that affected ALL Erudites, and that Odus was no exception. It doesn't matter where they were. My guess is that only shifting the entire continent to an alternate universe such as back into EQlive would have prevented it.

Vhalen wrote:

The changes to the Erudites were universal. These changes were not isolated to Odus. The catalyst of the transformation was located on Odus, but the effect extended out to all erudites. The erudites have been researching one particular area of the arcane for a long time. That magic practice would play a large role in the celebration that became the catalyst. This field of the arcane has always interested them and you can find displays of that obsession in the pursuits of an erudite caste of old and a caste of new. What really happened to them? Did they evolve or mutate? We may never know until we step foot upon the shores of Odus, something that has been absent for quite sometime.

Lethe5683 · 11-15-2009, 09:38 PM

Galithdor wrote:

Whoa big rat...
Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like

I'm wondering how they could do such a good job on ratonga and such a... hideous job on kerra. They don't look cat like at all whatsoever. They look more like gorilla-tiger-humans that run like hunchbacked babies.

Galithdor · 11-16-2009, 03:29 AM

Lethe5683 wrote:

Galithdor wrote:
Whoa big rat...
Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like
I'm wondering how they could do such a good job on ratonga and such a... hideous job on kerra. They don't look cat like at all whatsoever. They look more like gorilla-tiger-humans that run like hunchbacked babies.

Hahaha yeah they do

Anyways...the true thing to discuss...GOAT PEOPLE

Kiara · 11-16-2009, 07:42 PM

Please keep discussions about the expansion in the existing threads.

There is already discussion in the trailer thread about this.

Thank you!

11-13-2009, 06:36 PM	#1
Korven Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5158970#5158970 So, it looks like some of the new creatures we'll be facing are: a BADASS looking armored Beholder! new versions of the Naiad, including at least one that is also part Medusa old fashioned Kerra and Erudites Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so) some sort of root monster Panda people! (I guess the ones from EQ1 evolved quite a bit) Displacer beasts! some sort of crystal/rock monsters a plant based Void Beast Chimeras, both living and undead In addition some wyverns, wurms, and a 3 bladed floating contraption that looked pretty much normal. Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me. __________________

11-13-2009, 08:01 PM	#2
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Korven wrote: Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me. That was not a ratonga! (I hope). It was [Removed for Content] ugly. I mean god look at this it's like a zombie sewer rat humanoid. EVIL RAT

11-13-2009, 09:19 PM	#3
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Korven wrote: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5158970#5158970 So, it looks like some of the new creatures we'll be facing are: a BADASS looking armored Beholder! new versions of the Naiad, including at least one that is also part Medusa old fashioned Kerra and Erudites I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance. Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so) You mean they're not Satyrs? some sort of root monster Panda people! (I guess the ones from EQ1 evolved quite a bit) Displacer beasts! some sort of crystal/rock monsters a plant based Void Beast Chimeras, both living and undead In addition some wyverns, wurms, and a 3 bladed floating contraption that looked pretty much normal. Also, was that Ratonga a bit different than character models? It looked different to me. More than likely the Roekillik models that we've known have been in the files for some time now. Not a player race, just new mobs. I haven't watched the video yet, so I can't say for sure.

11-13-2009, 09:20 PM	#4
Aurel Book Goddess Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 669	whine I wanna see a game use Homer's description of the chimera. Hesiod's is so... overused, it's not really imposing anymore. Homer's Chimera "in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the middle a goat." Not three-headed. Could you imagine coming on a beast that had the head of a lion, a goat's head sprouting from the middle of its back, and a snake for a tail? However, the nayad that's a cross between Echidna and Medusa looked, admittedly, fairly decent. I hope she's not a raid mob. I want to see her in person. dreamy eyes __________________

11-14-2009, 01:26 AM	#6
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Korven wrote: Cusashorn wrote: Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so) You mean they're not Satyrs? Definately not Satyrs, bipedal and goat from head to toe. Good, Satyrs are annoying.

11-13-2009, 10:18 PM	#5
Korven Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 41	Cusashorn wrote: Goatfolk!! (I was definately surprised by the Ibixians, but pleasantly so) You mean they're not Satyrs? Definately not Satyrs, bipedal and goat from head to toe. __________________

11-14-2009, 01:34 AM	#7
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Aurelis wrote: whine I wanna see a game use Homer's description of the chimera. Hesiod's is so... overused, it's not really imposing anymore. Homer's Chimera "in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the middle a goat." Not three-headed. Could you imagine coming on a beast that had the head of a lion, a goat's head sprouting from the middle of its back, and a snake for a tail? However, the nayad that's a cross between Echidna and Medusa looked, admittedly, fairly decent. I hope she's not a raid mob. I want to see her in person. dreamy eyes Your description made me instantly think of the Chimera from Final Fantasy 6... but then I googled the picture and see it's pretty much a split between both definitions.

11-14-2009, 01:40 AM	#8
Aurel Book Goddess Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 669	Hehe noo - Not my description, it's Homer's! I prefer Homer's. That... I don't know what to say about that, other than... That's straying even further from Homer, Hesiod, and even D'n'D. A lion-dragon-goat-hawk-snake-... is that a boar? What? boggle [EDIT: This would be Homer's Chimera. Her siblings are the creatures with multiple heads from the same shoulders... Hydra, Cerberus, Orthrus, etc.] __________________

11-14-2009, 01:57 AM	#9
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Aurelis wrote: Hehe noo - Not my description, it's Homer's! I prefer Homer's. That... I don't know what to say about that, other than... That's straying even further from Homer, Hesiod, and even D'n'D. A lion-dragon-goat-hawk-snake-... is that a boar? What? boggle [EDIT: This would be Homer's Chimera. Her siblings are the creatures with multiple heads from the same shoulders... Hydra, Cerberus, Orthrus, etc.] But it was your description because you were the one describing Homer's description... ...Yeah.. i'm just arguing semantics here. I got nothing. :p

11-14-2009, 02:12 AM	#10
Aurel Book Goddess Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 669	Touche... Technically, it wasn't a direct quote because I got a word wrong. d: "She was of divine stock, not of men, in the fore part a lion, in the hinder a serpent, and in the midst a goat..." (Iliad 6.180) [EDIT: Well, a direct quote of a translation... Technically theoretically, I'd have to give the Greek version, which would be "... πρόσθε λέων, ὄπιθεν δὲ δράκων, μέσση δὲ χίμαιρα..." or anglicanized, something like "prosthe leon, opithen de drakon, messh de chimaira" but... yeah...] cough Back onto the topic, I am curious about these goat- and panda-folk. Do they have like, EQ1 lore history that explains how they fit in? Or are they just for... cuteness? __________________

11-14-2009, 02:24 AM	#11
ZexisStryfe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pits of the Underfoot Posts: 157	That Medusa/Nayad actually has eels for hair ;op Oh, and yes, that is the Roekilik model wearing one of the 2 scrap-metal armor sets. The Ibixians are interesting, as are the Crystalfolk, however what really interests me is the fact that there is a race called the "Talonites" which seem to be stoney-skinned Erudites and the newest test patch includes a very familiar race... the Coldain!

11-14-2009, 03:03 AM	#12
Galithdor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 984	Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE __________________

11-14-2009, 05:27 AM	#13
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Galithdor wrote: Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE They look like freaking undead they're so ugly.

11-14-2009, 11:30 AM	#14
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Aurelis wrote: cough Back onto the topic, I am curious about these goat- and panda-folk. Do they have like, EQ1 lore history that explains how they fit in? Or are they just for... cuteness? The Ibixians are a brand new creation exclusive to EQ2. They've never existed before. The Pandarians have apparently evolved or otherwise developed their own culture since EQlive. Back then, they were just huge bears who walked upright, but didn't have any intellegence or culture. They were nothing more than another animal in Stonebrundt Mountains. http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=16493 I'm glad they did develop them into a race and culture of their own this time around. I always felt they should have one.

11-14-2009, 11:38 AM	#15
Aurel Book Goddess Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Bazaar Posts: 669	I just hope they're not like some other goatfolk I know who can be real grouches sometimes. Well, if they are like him, at least they'll be able to dance... __________________

11-14-2009, 02:20 PM	#16
ZexisStryfe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pits of the Underfoot Posts: 157	Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE They look like freaking undead they're so ugly. Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt.

11-14-2009, 02:34 PM	#17
Galithdor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 984	Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote: Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE They look like freaking undead they're so ugly. Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt. Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually! And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik? __________________

11-14-2009, 03:17 PM	#18
Enever Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 320	I beleive the Roekillik were teh first ratonga...or the second ratonga, I'm not sure, but I thinkI recall three ratonga races being created. Two of them were trapped, one escaped. The roekillik will be interesting, overall. __________________

11-14-2009, 05:18 PM	#19
Giraku Server: Lucan DLere Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 89	Part of me hopes we see just ONE Panda named (NPC or named monster) Named Po. J/K Also, where in the video were there old school Kerra? I saw the flying Erudite, (could see the shine on that forehead from a mile away ) But no Kerran..

11-14-2009, 08:15 PM	#20
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Galithdor wrote: Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote: Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE They look like freaking undead they're so ugly. Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt. Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually! And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik? No, I don't like fighting ratonga. They don't even look like rats either, well actually they do look about like that giant rat they found on some island. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7149799.stm I guess it kind of makes sense they are to ratonga as gorillas are to humans.

11-15-2009, 04:26 AM	#21
Galithdor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 984	Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Vulkoor@Antonia Bayle wrote: Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Some of the new mobs look freakin awesome... The Rokellik just creep me out though...HUGE NOSE They look like freaking undead they're so ugly. Actually their noses are no larger than male Ratonga noses. That is just a bad angle. Also they aren't undead, it is just their fur is unkempt. Ahh okay bad angle...kinda dissapointing actually! And of course they are gonna look different than ratonga...what would be the point if they didnt Lethe? You wanna fight ratonga that are called rokellik? No, I don't like fighting ratonga. They don't even look like rats either, well actually they do look about like that giant rat they found on some island. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7149799.stm I guess it kind of makes sense they are to ratonga as gorillas are to humans. Whoa big rat... Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like __________________

11-15-2009, 05:22 AM	#22
Keikoku Server: Permafrost Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 453	Cusashorn wrote: Korven wrote: old fashioned Kerra and Erudites I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance. I'm sure that whatever lore they've got for why Odus was hidden or whatever could be a justifiable reason as to why these Erudites look old school. Can't wait to find out more, myself.

11-15-2009, 01:55 PM	#23
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Preya@Antonia Bayle wrote: Cusashorn wrote: Korven wrote: old fashioned Kerra and Erudites I guess they decided to retcon Vhalen's statement that all erudites were changed on an interdimensional level of existance. I'm sure that whatever lore they've got for why Odus was hidden or whatever could be a justifiable reason as to why these Erudites look old school. Can't wait to find out more, myself. Yes, but Vhalen said it was a UNIVERSAL level that affected ALL Erudites, and that Odus was no exception. It doesn't matter where they were. My guess is that only shifting the entire continent to an alternate universe such as back into EQlive would have prevented it. Vhalen wrote: The changes to the Erudites were universal. These changes were not isolated to Odus. The catalyst of the transformation was located on Odus, but the effect extended out to all erudites. The erudites have been researching one particular area of the arcane for a long time. That magic practice would play a large role in the celebration that became the catalyst. This field of the arcane has always interested them and you can find displays of that obsession in the pursuits of an erudite caste of old and a caste of new. What really happened to them? Did they evolve or mutate? We may never know until we step foot upon the shores of Odus, something that has been absent for quite sometime.

11-15-2009, 09:38 PM	#24
Lethe5683 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 5,351	Galithdor wrote: Whoa big rat... Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like I'm wondering how they could do such a good job on ratonga and such a... hideous job on kerra. They don't look cat like at all whatsoever. They look more like gorilla-tiger-humans that run like hunchbacked babies.

11-16-2009, 03:29 AM	#25
Galithdor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 984	Lethe5683 wrote: Galithdor wrote: Whoa big rat... Anyways yeah...at least they look more Rat-like then Kerra do Cat-like I'm wondering how they could do such a good job on ratonga and such a... hideous job on kerra. They don't look cat like at all whatsoever. They look more like gorilla-tiger-humans that run like hunchbacked babies. Hahaha yeah they do Anyways...the true thing to discuss...GOAT PEOPLE __________________

11-16-2009, 07:42 PM	#26
Kiara Community Relations Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,359	Please keep discussions about the expansion in the existing threads. There is already discussion in the trailer thread about this. Thank you!