Money issues

Verranicu · 11-09-2009, 03:39 AM

Just out of curiosity, does it get easier to raise money as you level? I've been hovering at 1-2 plat for what seems like ages, and all of the mastercrafted gear on the broker costs a fortune..

Kleitos · 11-09-2009, 03:48 AM

Short answer: yesLong answer: At 80 you get for example vendor loot that sell for 20-30 gold each (rare). If you want to make more, pick any shiny you see, sell any gear you can on the broker, don't buy fluff. It does seem like the market for selling is somewhat slow at the moment so now could be a hard time to make alot of money. Once the expansion is released there is lots and lots of money to be made. If you pick a tradeskill you can probably make some money there too if you watch the market some.

Seidhkona · 11-09-2009, 09:40 AM

Don't buy your armor from the broker. As a crafter, when I put mastercrafted gear on the broker, I price it so that the ultra-rich level 80 raider can buy it to twink an alt. I.e., I charge all the market will bear.

Get out and harvest. I recommend that you start the quest for the Cloak of the Harvester young anyway, as each step pays pretty well, and that will help motivate you towards harvesting. As you adventure, harvest a bit along the way. Harvest inbetween fights while you heal up, or while you wait for power to regen.

If you have your own rares, most crafters will make your mastercrafted for you for the cost of fuel plus a tip. I figure on paying (at a minimum) double the fuel cost, and I may add to that if the crafter went to a lot of trouble for me. This is ENORMOUSLY more affordable than buying premade stuff on the broker.

Another benefit to getting into harvesting is that even the common harvests usually sell pretty good, any rares you don't need will tend to sell for very good money, and also don't forget to pick up shinies and sell any you don't need.

And don't forget to check on the broker for "baubles" that increase your harvesting abilities.

Harvesting Help: Woodworker-Crafted Harvesting Tools Once you level to 20 you can start using the woodworker-made harvesting tools. Ash wood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 20 or higher.

Ash Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 0.5 seconds
Ash Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 0.5 seconds
Ash Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 0.5 seconds
Ash Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 0.5 seconds
Ash Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 0.5 seconds

Briarwood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 30 or higher.

Briarwood Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 1.0 second
Briarwood Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 1.0 second
Briarwood Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 1.0 second
Briarwood Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 1.0 second
Briarwood Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 1.0 second

Teak wood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 40 or higher.

Teak Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 1.5 seconds
Teak Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 1.5 seconds
Teak Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 1.5 seconds
Teak Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 1.5 seconds
Teak Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 1.5 seconds

Sandalwood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 50 or higher.

Sandalwood Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 2 seconds
Sandalwood Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 2 seconds
Sandalwood Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 2 seconds
Sandalwood Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 2 seconds
Sandalwood Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 2 seconds

Tinker-Crafted Harvesting Tools If you level your crafting, there are also tinker-made harvesting tools. Miscalibrated tools - require crafting level of 30 or higher.

Miscalibrated Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 1.0 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 10.0
Miscalibrated Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 1.0 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 5.0
Miscalibrated Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 1.0 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 5.0

Calibrated tools - require crafting level of 46 or higher.

Calibrated Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 1.5 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 15.0
Calibrated Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 1.5 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 7.0
Calibrated Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 1.5 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 7.0

Overclocked tools - require crafting level of 66 or higher.

Overclocked Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 2.5 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 20.0
Overclocked Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 2.5 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 10.0
Overclocked Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 2.5 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 10.0

Dareena · 11-09-2009, 11:35 AM

Also to add on the item crafting front, please understand that your crafting requests in 1-9 and Crafting chats also need to target end game crafters (in addition to crafters around your current level). When advertising in chat, please make it clear that you'll provide EVERYTHING neccessary for the crafting process. This would include commons, imbues, fuel, and rares. If a high level craft doesn't have to fiddle with gathering up junk that's 30-60 levels lower than them, then they're going to be much more willing to help.

Now as a player with an end game main, I've got access to large sums of money. But even then, you don't really have to offer a lot to get some attention or charity. If I'm offering 4-5p as payment for making a full armor set, it usually works. (I've done this from the 40's to 60's with very good results.) Please note that I'm intentionally throwing more money than I should at these combines since I can afford to. Either a lower level crafter will get a much needed income boost or it might be enough to get the attention of an 80th crafter. Both scenerios work for me and it cuts down on my crafter hunting time. After all, time is money.

EDIT

For example, here's the type of message that I'd throw into chat. "LF 60+ armorer to make full set of armor. Supply all materials (including commons and fuel). Paying a net of 5p. PST." I'd use this kind of message if I was looking for a 50's set of armor.

agnott · 11-09-2009, 12:15 PM

I hated to craft when I first started playing mmo's. But I got tired of watching my friend turn into a walking atm machine becuase he always crafted.

I learned to love it to the point where after maxing my main in crafting, I maxed out an alt who just crafts. (if he ever walked out of the crafting room and into the sun..... I think he would burst into flames)

Few things in the game give you the return on your time spent like crafting.

Verranicu · 11-09-2009, 12:45 PM

Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player?

Yimway · 11-09-2009, 01:08 PM

VerranicusX wrote:

Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player?

Just do all the soloquests in T8, you should bank ~200p at the end of it.

From there, the ways of earning coin vary greatly. I find though for time spent, grinding skyfire mobs for body drops and trash treasured to actually be more pp/hour than harvesting or crafting. Thats about the best solo pp farming I know of.

If you can do missions regularly, the shinies from those sell for a few pp to 100+ for some rares. It's faster pp/hr than skyfire solo, but they both are reasonably effective and sustainable.

The method that works both requires interacting with nothing but the broker, and buying desired goods and creating artificial price points. This works well on shineys, but it also works on other consumables as well. But this is an expensive and risky game to learn, and if your having trouble getting a handful of plat, its not going to work for you.

....

[Removed for Content], I forgot the easiest method. Buy 100 booster LoN booster packs then log in and offer to trade boosters for 8pp ea. in 1-9 chat.

Aerfen · 11-09-2009, 01:15 PM

I once had a similar problem...I always only seemed to have a couple of plat. I started putting my extra coin into my bank, and only kept a 1 plat on my person. I did everything these good folks suggested...harvesting rares, shinies, crafting, etc. Pretty soon my bank roll started to grow! Before you knew it, I was making significant contributions to purchasing our Tier 3 guild hall. It certainly is easier to earn coin in the upper tiers though. And the quests in the Moors pay WAY better than the RoK quests.

Ragnaphore · 11-09-2009, 04:01 PM

VerranicusX wrote:

Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player?

For making plats ? Not really. Any craft except maybe weaponsmith will pay for themselves as you level but for the big bucks you have to be max level - or at least T8.

For a newer player, I would suggest taking the craft you use the most with your character(s).

mafoe · 11-09-2009, 09:33 PM

Forget crafting. There's more money in shineys especially for a new player since you dont need any prerequisites.

Graywindnz · 11-09-2009, 11:24 PM

Some lore and ledgend pieces also sell well. I spent a week harvesting the Warewolfs in Darklight wood made 30plat selling the pieces

Seidhkona · 11-10-2009, 12:22 AM

VerranicusX wrote:

Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player?

Provisioners make steady money. Carpenters do as well - and carpenters can sell everything they make, for varying amounts of cash. People always need backpacks, so tailors do well.

You can honestly make money at all crafts if you are willing to work at it. The hardest to make money with and level are probably woodworkers and weaponsmiths, followed by armorsmiths.

Medasin · 11-10-2009, 04:28 AM

This thread should be stickied so I can point to it for any new players that I meet.

Which at the current rate of meeting new players should be in about 2.34 months.

Avadale · 11-10-2009, 10:40 AM

As someone mentioned - collectables also sell very well in general.

Also, plant food sells well too. I was hoarding the plant food and realized I wasn't really using it - so i sold it all one night for around 15 plat (on the AB server).

These are the kinds of items that are easy to get as you adventure if crafting isn't your thing. Also, being a newbie transmuter, I recently spent quite a bit of plat on quest reward gear to transmute - even the lower level stuff. It can all add up quickly.

I also have a newbie alt that has made a bit of plat selling the transmuting components. The actual adornments made don't sell for crap (except perhaps the rare higher level ones), but the components do.

urgthock · 11-10-2009, 11:52 AM

Graywindnz wrote:

Some lore and ledgend pieces also sell well. I spent a week harvesting the Warewolfs in Darklight wood made 30plat selling the pieces

This ^^^. Check the broker on your server and see what pieces seem to be most in demand (highest priced) and farm them for days (also taking into account the level of the creature to be farmed versus your own). You can check out what L&L quest pieces to be looking for here: http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Lore_and_Legend_Timeline

Pinuvin · 11-10-2009, 12:11 PM

There's some good advice in here, thank you. I never thought plant food would be a good seller, I always vendor mine, I guess I should be a little more careful when doing that.

Thanks for the help guys.

Alvane · 11-10-2009, 12:22 PM

Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote:

The hardest to make money with and level are probably woodworkers and weaponsmiths, followed by armorsmiths.

hmmmmmm my lvl 43 inquisitor is an 80 woodworker and she already has 37plat just making those totems and arrows. She stays very busy, indeed. I have 6 crafters - alchy, sage, tailor, carpenter, woodworker and gourmet chef. All make money at their trade, but the sage and tailor make the least. Adornments help keep the gals in loose change along with T-1/2 armor and jewelry. It also helps they have all the special recipes from carpentry, alchy, sage books, provis magma fish/halasian/TSO recipes and special events. I have one (sage) who is also a tinkerer who also makes popular items for sale on the broker. The alchy 'muter just basically mutes stuff for the rest of the gals, the friends, and guildies to provide basic mats for adorns.

However, for those who hate crafting, there is always the "buy low, sell hi" possibility, harvesting shinies and killing mobs for those L&L items - all those are very popular.

Guy De Alsace · 11-10-2009, 12:31 PM

You wont make money tradeskilling. Its useful if you have a load of alts then you can make the gear they need as they level but other than that you wont make a great deal.

Selling shinies on the other hand, especially at low level, is lucrative as is selling status items if you arent guilded.

Just bear in mind that journeyman skills will probably be fine till 50. Adept till 70, then expert beyond that. You only really need a master spell when you are at cap IMO.

You can also skip a tier of mastercrafted so you dont waste money. First set is blackened iron, miss steel out, get feysteel, miss out ebon, get cobalt, miss out xegonite then buy incarnadine. Rinse and repeat for jewellery etc...

11-09-2009, 03:48 AM	#2
Kleitos Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 335	Short answer: yesLong answer: At 80 you get for example vendor loot that sell for 20-30 gold each (rare). If you want to make more, pick any shiny you see, sell any gear you can on the broker, don't buy fluff. It does seem like the market for selling is somewhat slow at the moment so now could be a hard time to make alot of money. Once the expansion is released there is lots and lots of money to be made. If you pick a tradeskill you can probably make some money there too if you watch the market some. __________________

11-09-2009, 09:40 AM	#3
Seidhkona Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,115	Don't buy your armor from the broker. As a crafter, when I put mastercrafted gear on the broker, I price it so that the ultra-rich level 80 raider can buy it to twink an alt. I.e., I charge all the market will bear. Get out and harvest. I recommend that you start the quest for the Cloak of the Harvester young anyway, as each step pays pretty well, and that will help motivate you towards harvesting. As you adventure, harvest a bit along the way. Harvest inbetween fights while you heal up, or while you wait for power to regen. If you have your own rares, most crafters will make your mastercrafted for you for the cost of fuel plus a tip. I figure on paying (at a minimum) double the fuel cost, and I may add to that if the crafter went to a lot of trouble for me. This is ENORMOUSLY more affordable than buying premade stuff on the broker. Another benefit to getting into harvesting is that even the common harvests usually sell pretty good, any rares you don't need will tend to sell for very good money, and also don't forget to pick up shinies and sell any you don't need. And don't forget to check on the broker for "baubles" that increase your harvesting abilities. Harvesting Help: Woodworker-Crafted Harvesting Tools Once you level to 20 you can start using the woodworker-made harvesting tools. Ash wood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 20 or higher. Ash Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 0.5 seconds Ash Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 0.5 seconds Ash Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 0.5 seconds Ash Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 0.5 seconds Ash Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 0.5 seconds Briarwood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 30 or higher. Briarwood Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 1.0 second Briarwood Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 1.0 second Briarwood Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 1.0 second Briarwood Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 1.0 second Briarwood Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 1.0 second Teak wood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 40 or higher. Teak Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 1.5 seconds Teak Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 1.5 seconds Teak Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 1.5 seconds Teak Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 1.5 seconds Teak Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 1.5 seconds Sandalwood tools - require adventure or crafting level of 50 or higher. Sandalwood Pick -- Reduces harvest time for mining by 2 seconds Sandalwood Shovel -- Reduces harvest time for gathering by 2 seconds Sandalwood Fishing Pole -- Reduces harvest time for fishing by 2 seconds Sandalwood Trap -- Reduces harvest time for trapping by 2 seconds Sandalwood Saw -- Reduces harvest time for foresting by 2 seconds Tinker-Crafted Harvesting Tools If you level your crafting, there are also tinker-made harvesting tools. Miscalibrated tools - require crafting level of 30 or higher. Miscalibrated Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 1.0 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 10.0 Miscalibrated Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 1.0 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 5.0 Miscalibrated Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 1.0 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 5.0 Calibrated tools - require crafting level of 46 or higher. Calibrated Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 1.5 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 15.0 Calibrated Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 1.5 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 7.0 Calibrated Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 1.5 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 7.0 Overclocked tools - require crafting level of 66 or higher. Overclocked Automated Pickaxe - Reduces the harvest time for mining by 2.5 seconds. Increases Mining skill of caster by 20.0 Overclocked Automated Shears - Reduces the harvest time for gathering and foresting by 2.5 seconds. Increases Gathering skill and Foresting skill of caster by 10.0 Overclocked Automated Watersafe Net - Reduces the harvest time for fishing and trapping by 2.5 seconds. Increases Fishing skill and Trapping skill of caster by 10.0 __________________

11-09-2009, 01:08 PM	#7
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	VerranicusX wrote: Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player? Just do all the soloquests in T8, you should bank ~200p at the end of it. From there, the ways of earning coin vary greatly. I find though for time spent, grinding skyfire mobs for body drops and trash treasured to actually be more pp/hour than harvesting or crafting. Thats about the best solo pp farming I know of. If you can do missions regularly, the shinies from those sell for a few pp to 100+ for some rares. It's faster pp/hr than skyfire solo, but they both are reasonably effective and sustainable. The method that works both requires interacting with nothing but the broker, and buying desired goods and creating artificial price points. This works well on shineys, but it also works on other consumables as well. But this is an expensive and risky game to learn, and if your having trouble getting a handful of plat, its not going to work for you. .... [Removed for Content], I forgot the easiest method. Buy 100 booster LoN booster packs then log in and offer to trade boosters for 8pp ea. in 1-9 chat. __________________

11-09-2009, 01:15 PM	#8
Aerfen Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Felwithe Freedom Fighters Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 524	I once had a similar problem...I always only seemed to have a couple of plat. I started putting my extra coin into my bank, and only kept a 1 plat on my person. I did everything these good folks suggested...harvesting rares, shinies, crafting, etc. Pretty soon my bank roll started to grow! Before you knew it, I was making significant contributions to purchasing our Tier 3 guild hall. It certainly is easier to earn coin in the upper tiers though. And the quests in the Moors pay WAY better than the RoK quests. __________________ Thank you for giving carpenters building blocks!! - Lady Aerfen

11-09-2009, 04:01 PM	#9
Ragnaphore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 715	VerranicusX wrote: Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player? For making plats ? Not really. Any craft except maybe weaponsmith will pay for themselves as you level but for the big bucks you have to be max level - or at least T8. For a newer player, I would suggest taking the craft you use the most with your character(s).

11-09-2009, 03:39 AM	#1
Verranicu General Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 33	Just out of curiosity, does it get easier to raise money as you level? I've been hovering at 1-2 plat for what seems like ages, and all of the mastercrafted gear on the broker costs a fortune..

11-09-2009, 11:35 AM	#4
Dareena Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Dark Prophecy Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,074	Also to add on the item crafting front, please understand that your crafting requests in 1-9 and Crafting chats also need to target end game crafters (in addition to crafters around your current level). When advertising in chat, please make it clear that you'll provide EVERYTHING neccessary for the crafting process. This would include commons, imbues, fuel, and rares. If a high level craft doesn't have to fiddle with gathering up junk that's 30-60 levels lower than them, then they're going to be much more willing to help. Now as a player with an end game main, I've got access to large sums of money. But even then, you don't really have to offer a lot to get some attention or charity. If I'm offering 4-5p as payment for making a full armor set, it usually works. (I've done this from the 40's to 60's with very good results.) Please note that I'm intentionally throwing more money than I should at these combines since I can afford to. Either a lower level crafter will get a much needed income boost or it might be enough to get the attention of an 80th crafter. Both scenerios work for me and it cuts down on my crafter hunting time. After all, time is money. EDIT For example, here's the type of message that I'd throw into chat. "LF 60+ armorer to make full set of armor. Supply all materials (including commons and fuel). Paying a net of 5p. PST." I'd use this kind of message if I was looking for a 50's set of armor.

11-09-2009, 12:15 PM	#5
agnott Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 710	I hated to craft when I first started playing mmo's. But I got tired of watching my friend turn into a walking atm machine becuase he always crafted. I learned to love it to the point where after maxing my main in crafting, I maxed out an alt who just crafts. (if he ever walked out of the crafting room and into the sun..... I think he would burst into flames) Few things in the game give you the return on your time spent like crafting.

11-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#6
Verranicu General Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 33	Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player?

11-09-2009, 09:33 PM	#10
mafoe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 199	Forget crafting. There's more money in shineys especially for a new player since you dont need any prerequisites.

11-09-2009, 11:24 PM	#11
Graywindnz Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 297	Some lore and ledgend pieces also sell well. I spent a week harvesting the Warewolfs in Darklight wood made 30plat selling the pieces __________________

11-10-2009, 12:22 AM	#12
Seidhkona Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,115	VerranicusX wrote: Hmm.. is there a craft in particular that's good for a newer player? Provisioners make steady money. Carpenters do as well - and carpenters can sell everything they make, for varying amounts of cash. People always need backpacks, so tailors do well. You can honestly make money at all crafts if you are willing to work at it. The hardest to make money with and level are probably woodworkers and weaponsmiths, followed by armorsmiths. __________________

11-10-2009, 04:28 AM	#13
Medasin Server: Butcherblock Guild: Ancient But Not Dead Rank: Other Alts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 45	This thread should be stickied so I can point to it for any new players that I meet. Which at the current rate of meeting new players should be in about 2.34 months.

11-10-2009, 10:40 AM	#14
Avadale Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 44	As someone mentioned - collectables also sell very well in general. Also, plant food sells well too. I was hoarding the plant food and realized I wasn't really using it - so i sold it all one night for around 15 plat (on the AB server). These are the kinds of items that are easy to get as you adventure if crafting isn't your thing. Also, being a newbie transmuter, I recently spent quite a bit of plat on quest reward gear to transmute - even the lower level stuff. It can all add up quickly. I also have a newbie alt that has made a bit of plat selling the transmuting components. The actual adornments made don't sell for crap (except perhaps the rare higher level ones), but the components do.

11-10-2009, 11:52 AM	#15
urgthock Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 1,308	Graywindnz wrote: Some lore and ledgend pieces also sell well. I spent a week harvesting the Warewolfs in Darklight wood made 30plat selling the pieces This ^^^. Check the broker on your server and see what pieces seem to be most in demand (highest priced) and farm them for days (also taking into account the level of the creature to be farmed versus your own). You can check out what L&L quest pieces to be looking for here: http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Lore_and_Legend_Timeline

11-10-2009, 12:11 PM	#16
Pinuvin Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 30	There's some good advice in here, thank you. I never thought plant food would be a good seller, I always vendor mine, I guess I should be a little more careful when doing that. Thanks for the help guys.

11-10-2009, 12:22 PM	#17
Alvane Server: Unrest Guild: Old Timer Guild Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,363	Sigrdrifa@Lucan DLere wrote: The hardest to make money with and level are probably woodworkers and weaponsmiths, followed by armorsmiths. hmmmmmm my lvl 43 inquisitor is an 80 woodworker and she already has 37plat just making those totems and arrows. She stays very busy, indeed. I have 6 crafters - alchy, sage, tailor, carpenter, woodworker and gourmet chef. All make money at their trade, but the sage and tailor make the least. Adornments help keep the gals in loose change along with T-1/2 armor and jewelry. It also helps they have all the special recipes from carpentry, alchy, sage books, provis magma fish/halasian/TSO recipes and special events. I have one (sage) who is also a tinkerer who also makes popular items for sale on the broker. The alchy 'muter just basically mutes stuff for the rest of the gals, the friends, and guildies to provide basic mats for adorns. However, for those who hate crafting, there is always the "buy low, sell hi" possibility, harvesting shinies and killing mobs for those L&L items - all those are very popular.

11-10-2009, 12:31 PM	#18
Guy De Alsace Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,902	You wont make money tradeskilling. Its useful if you have a load of alts then you can make the gear they need as they level but other than that you wont make a great deal. Selling shinies on the other hand, especially at low level, is lucrative as is selling status items if you arent guilded. Just bear in mind that journeyman skills will probably be fine till 50. Adept till 70, then expert beyond that. You only really need a master spell when you are at cap IMO. You can also skip a tier of mastercrafted so you dont waste money. First set is blackened iron, miss steel out, get feysteel, miss out ebon, get cobalt, miss out xegonite then buy incarnadine. Rinse and repeat for jewellery etc...