Why does the only mage item from Zarrakon suck so much? - Page 2

Wytie · 08-31-2009, 01:26 PM

Morghus wrote:

Well, the wrist just got updated on test. Currently it has gained 3 spell crit bonus, the rest is unchanged.

Well atleast that makes it an upgrade from 1group able raid content. LOL

Jasuo · 08-31-2009, 01:32 PM

and yet it's still a joke of a wrist in comparison to the other loot on the table, gg sony

Xalmat · 09-01-2009, 01:13 AM

I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.

Kunaak · 09-01-2009, 02:30 AM

Xalmat wrote:

I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.

my guess is, people like procs... without procs, it just doesnt look good. HUGE item descriptions make people happy haha

Faenril · 09-01-2009, 04:13 AM

The problem is some loot on the same table is pretty OP, so we want an OP wrist too SMILEY

Wytie · 09-01-2009, 11:35 AM

Xalmat wrote:

I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.

Im happy with the changes.

I asked for some crit bonus and thats what I got.

A nice proc would have been sweet but something is a whole lot better than nothing. SMILEY

Jasuo · 09-06-2009, 04:22 AM

Xalmat wrote:

I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.

You like having a raid obtained drop give your pet a buff with stats only useful for soloing? I'd be fine with the item if they just changed the parry and defense to physical mit or more magic resists since those are actually useful in raiding.

Morghus · 09-06-2009, 04:23 AM

Jasuo wrote:

Xalmat wrote:
I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.
You like having a raid obtained drop give your pet a buff with stats only useful for soloing? I'd be fine with the item if they just changed the parry and defense to physical mit or more magic resists since those are actually useful in raiding.

Yea...just about anything is better than that pet buff on it. Ideally it would have a proc in similar flavor to his other drops but that doesnt look like it will happen.

acctlc · 09-06-2009, 05:30 AM

Put me down as one more person that not only thinks the pet effect is useless but believes it needs a proc, preferably a power proc.

Where is the mage gear this xpac with mana procs FFS? Whoever designed these raid encounters seems to think power drains are NEAT! I mean they are everywhere, from mana drain ae's to reactive power drains. Do the devs that create these encounters play enchanters ffs? My guildmates did a raid on the new x4 zone coming out with the next GU this past week on Test, and low and behold.. the *first* mob is another blue bar nightmare of an encounter. Maybe its because the chanters in my guild aren't so uber or the fact that we can't always get 4 of them on a raid..but I'm always out of power. Every piece of power proccing equipment I have is last tier or legendary with crap for stats. I can already think of 2 raid dropped TSO pieces healers can get (kultak neck..belt off of..zarrakon?) with power procs on them. Scouts can use poisons, where is the mage love ffs..we don't ALL play enchanters with endless power pools.

So either catch up with the itemization or talk to your buddy's down there creating these raid encounters and clue them in that the way to make people not scream and moan about needing so [Removed for Content] many utility classes like chanters for a successfull raid..is to ease up on the [Removed for Content] power drains,

Morghus · 09-06-2009, 05:33 AM

Not even chanters are immune to the issue of power drain mobs if they are unlucky. The major problem I think probably stems from the fact that as our gear has gotten better, we have gotten more power per piece...while at the same time all mob power drain effects are a percentage while power returns/procs are a static number...sooo the better geared/more power you have the more you actually will have to regain when being drained due to the static regen numbers.

Aule · 09-06-2009, 10:15 PM

You would've thought they'd have learned that percentage based anythings are stupid back when they nerfed all the charmable pets that had these effects. Seriously, I want a -5000 power item please.

Noaani · 09-07-2009, 12:35 AM

Xalmat wrote:

I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item.

My problem is that mages are missing instanced itemization for several effect types in TSO.

There are still no heal or power proc items for mages at all, still no items that proc control effect immunity (though only fighters have an instanced item that does this, to be fair) and we are still missing a x4 instance dropped item with the preperation effect.

It seems so obvious that this item should have a damage/heal proc on it - all you need to do is look at the Bloodquench and blood Symphony effects on items that he also drops.

08-31-2009, 01:26 PM	#31
Wytie Mouse Betrayer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,579	Morghus wrote: Well, the wrist just got updated on test. Currently it has gained 3 spell crit bonus, the rest is unchanged. Well atleast that makes it an upgrade from 1group able raid content. LOL __________________

08-31-2009, 01:32 PM	#32
Jasuo Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 758	and yet it's still a joke of a wrist in comparison to the other loot on the table, gg sony __________________

09-01-2009, 01:13 AM	#33
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

09-01-2009, 02:30 AM	#34
Kunaak Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,081	Xalmat wrote: I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. my guess is, people like procs... without procs, it just doesnt look good. HUGE item descriptions make people happy haha

09-01-2009, 11:35 AM	#36
Wytie Mouse Betrayer! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,579	Xalmat wrote: I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. Im happy with the changes. I asked for some crit bonus and thats what I got. A nice proc would have been sweet but something is a whole lot better than nothing. __________________

09-01-2009, 04:13 AM	#35
Faenril Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Sushi Maker - Alt Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,136	The problem is some loot on the same table is pretty OP, so we want an OP wrist too

09-06-2009, 04:22 AM	#37
Jasuo Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 758	Xalmat wrote: I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. You like having a raid obtained drop give your pet a buff with stats only useful for soloing? I'd be fine with the item if they just changed the parry and defense to physical mit or more magic resists since those are actually useful in raiding. __________________

09-06-2009, 04:23 AM	#38
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Jasuo wrote: Xalmat wrote: I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. You like having a raid obtained drop give your pet a buff with stats only useful for soloing? I'd be fine with the item if they just changed the parry and defense to physical mit or more magic resists since those are actually useful in raiding. Yea...just about anything is better than that pet buff on it. Ideally it would have a proc in similar flavor to his other drops but that doesnt look like it will happen.

09-06-2009, 05:30 AM	#39
acctlc Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 520	Put me down as one more person that not only thinks the pet effect is useless but believes it needs a proc, preferably a power proc. Where is the mage gear this xpac with mana procs FFS? Whoever designed these raid encounters seems to think power drains are NEAT! I mean they are everywhere, from mana drain ae's to reactive power drains. Do the devs that create these encounters play enchanters ffs? My guildmates did a raid on the new x4 zone coming out with the next GU this past week on Test, and low and behold.. the first mob is another blue bar nightmare of an encounter. Maybe its because the chanters in my guild aren't so uber or the fact that we can't always get 4 of them on a raid..but I'm always out of power. Every piece of power proccing equipment I have is last tier or legendary with crap for stats. I can already think of 2 raid dropped TSO pieces healers can get (kultak neck..belt off of..zarrakon?) with power procs on them. Scouts can use poisons, where is the mage love ffs..we don't ALL play enchanters with endless power pools. So either catch up with the itemization or talk to your buddy's down there creating these raid encounters and clue them in that the way to make people not scream and moan about needing so [Removed for Content] many utility classes like chanters for a successfull raid..is to ease up on the [Removed for Content] power drains, __________________

09-06-2009, 05:33 AM	#40
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Not even chanters are immune to the issue of power drain mobs if they are unlucky. The major problem I think probably stems from the fact that as our gear has gotten better, we have gotten more power per piece...while at the same time all mob power drain effects are a percentage while power returns/procs are a static number...sooo the better geared/more power you have the more you actually will have to regain when being drained due to the static regen numbers.

09-06-2009, 10:15 PM	#41
Aule Server: Guk Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,360	You would've thought they'd have learned that percentage based anythings are stupid back when they nerfed all the charmable pets that had these effects. Seriously, I want a -5000 power item please. __________________ guk.Aule - 90 coercer \| Troops of Doom \| 90 bruiser - guk.Krindi

09-07-2009, 12:35 AM	#42
Noaani Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 6,077	Xalmat wrote: I don't see what the complaint is about. 6 crit, 3 crit bonus, 4 hostile reuse, this combination is HUGE for a single item. My problem is that mages are missing instanced itemization for several effect types in TSO. There are still no heal or power proc items for mages at all, still no items that proc control effect immunity (though only fighters have an instanced item that does this, to be fair) and we are still missing a x4 instance dropped item with the preperation effect. It seems so obvious that this item should have a damage/heal proc on it - all you need to do is look at the Bloodquench and blood Symphony effects on items that he also drops. __________________ The superior man knows what is right. The inferior man knows what will sell. Confucius