Serious health problem... please read!

Lac · 07-29-2009, 05:25 PM

Ok, my monk is having a serious problem. I didn't even really realize it until one day I was leveling up piercing on a training dummy and it was taking my life away. My husband has a bruiser and can hit a training dummy all day and not lose any health. I however will die eventually. Its like I have a reflect on or something. I've looked through all my gear, all my CAs, all my trees.... I can not find anything that says I should be losing health except for one thing... on the monk tree Frozen Palm mentions something about at the cost of health... but if I am auto attacking it does it too. Also, my health is never at 100%... it moves around from 95% to 100% constantly. I really need to figure this out cause now that I am 80 it is really effecting my toon and the game play. Please help!!

Aull · 07-29-2009, 05:48 PM

Monk's have a self hasting ability that drains a percentage of health while it is active. This isn't as noticable when out of combat but once combat is engaged your in combat health regen suffers. It was called everburning or something like that, but since the revised combat/spell names I am not sure what it is called.

Also monks and bruisers alike have a combat art that drains health instead of power, but since a bruiser does not get an ability that enhances auto attack while draining health their in combat health regen will not suffer as a monks will.

My friends monk suffers that same scenario as you have now. He will cancel everburning when soloing and even when tanking because he says his health goes down fast and takes forever to regen. He uses everburning when in groups and not tanking.

This may not be your actual issue but I thought it would be a nice place to start looking.

Blu · 07-29-2009, 06:03 PM

You simply have the Everburning Flame buff active. If you read the description on it, it takes a percentage of your max health every tick, and gives you a big haste boost. Simply turn it off or put on gear that procs a heal (several buyable pieces at RoK faction merchants) to make up for it while you're at the training dummy.

When you are out of combat, your food's health regen kicks in and makes up for it, but in-combat health regen is simply not enough to overcome the drain.

Lac · 07-29-2009, 06:14 PM

Thanks guys. I got to investigating it. Cleared all my buffs, hit the wall, watch health, etc... and you are both exactly right its everburning. I couldnt figure it out cause if you hover over the hot key it just says itcreases attack speed by 41. But now I know, and I won't be running it unless I am in a team as dps. Thanks a bunch!

Aull · 07-29-2009, 06:39 PM

You are welcome.

Queen Alexandria · 09-07-2009, 08:38 PM

LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.

Zabjade · 09-08-2009, 12:32 AM

Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:

LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.

Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long.

Wildfury77 · 09-14-2009, 04:46 PM

Zabjade wrote:

Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:
LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.
Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long.

Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!!

FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT.

A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........

BChizzle · 09-14-2009, 07:20 PM

Grondak@Nagafen wrote:

Zabjade wrote:
Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:
LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.
Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long.
Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!!
FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT.
A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........

Quit making sense, people here don't like that sort of thing.

Mosha D'Khan · 09-14-2009, 09:05 PM

Grondak@Nagafen wrote:

Zabjade wrote:
Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:
LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.
Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long.
Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!!
FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT.
A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........

sorry i kinda laughed at this when i read it. you can offtank and pick up a mob with np if you ahve high in geared and well if you use all your deflection buffs i would hope you can keep it long enough for the healers to get the MT back up.

Mosha D'Khan · 09-15-2009, 11:15 PM

i went to see if i could see how one would do it with just resetting AA brawler tree. i got up to a 88% avoidance and a 52% mit solo in defensive stance. with other buffs and and corcer and a dirge for hate transfers it would be real easy and you would take nearly 0 damage (with raid buff you would probably only take magic). guess that could be good but dont know how well you could hold agro. = )

Dorieon · 09-16-2009, 07:21 AM

88% avoid means nothing to raid mobs. What was your uncontested avoidance at? Also, 52% mit won't do much for you when raid mobs strikethrough your avoid check and hit you anyway. So you take a 'bit' more than magic damage when tanking a raid mob.

Mosha D'Khan · 09-16-2009, 09:16 AM

well that is the thing i have not looked at my uncontested avoidance. and you are thinking that 52% mit is with buffs.... with out this spec and in complete dps with only 1 healer (mystic in group) not sure what else i had i got up to a 62% mit in offstance. so will check all that stuff the next time i get on.

Saphirewind · 11-29-2009, 07:52 PM

BChizzle wrote:

Grondak@Nagafen wrote:
Zabjade wrote:
Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote:
LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off.
Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long.
Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!!
FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT.
A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........
Quit making sense, people here don't like that sort of thing.

I LOLed. It isn't that we don't like that sort of thing, it is just that we fear that with which we are unfamiliar. This also applies to logic and reason.

09-07-2009, 08:38 PM	#6
Queen Alexandria Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 221	LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. __________________

09-08-2009, 12:32 AM	#7
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote: LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long. __________________

09-14-2009, 04:46 PM	#8
Wildfury77 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 683	Zabjade wrote: Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote: LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long. Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!! FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT. A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........

09-14-2009, 07:20 PM	#9
BChizzle Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,095	Grondak@Nagafen wrote: Zabjade wrote: Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote: LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long. Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!! FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT. A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........ Quit making sense, people here don't like that sort of thing.

09-14-2009, 09:05 PM	#10
Mosha D'Khan Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 440	Grondak@Nagafen wrote: Zabjade wrote: Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote: LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long. Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!! FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT. A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........ sorry i kinda laughed at this when i read it. you can offtank and pick up a mob with np if you ahve high in geared and well if you use all your deflection buffs i would hope you can keep it long enough for the healers to get the MT back up. __________________

07-29-2009, 05:25 PM	#1
Lac General Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	Ok, my monk is having a serious problem. I didn't even really realize it until one day I was leveling up piercing on a training dummy and it was taking my life away. My husband has a bruiser and can hit a training dummy all day and not lose any health. I however will die eventually. Its like I have a reflect on or something. I've looked through all my gear, all my CAs, all my trees.... I can not find anything that says I should be losing health except for one thing... on the monk tree Frozen Palm mentions something about at the cost of health... but if I am auto attacking it does it too. Also, my health is never at 100%... it moves around from 95% to 100% constantly. I really need to figure this out cause now that I am 80 it is really effecting my toon and the game play. Please help!!

07-29-2009, 05:48 PM	#2
Aull Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,429	Monk's have a self hasting ability that drains a percentage of health while it is active. This isn't as noticable when out of combat but once combat is engaged your in combat health regen suffers. It was called everburning or something like that, but since the revised combat/spell names I am not sure what it is called. Also monks and bruisers alike have a combat art that drains health instead of power, but since a bruiser does not get an ability that enhances auto attack while draining health their in combat health regen will not suffer as a monks will. My friends monk suffers that same scenario as you have now. He will cancel everburning when soloing and even when tanking because he says his health goes down fast and takes forever to regen. He uses everburning when in groups and not tanking. This may not be your actual issue but I thought it would be a nice place to start looking.

07-29-2009, 06:03 PM	#3
Blu General Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 274	You simply have the Everburning Flame buff active. If you read the description on it, it takes a percentage of your max health every tick, and gives you a big haste boost. Simply turn it off or put on gear that procs a heal (several buyable pieces at RoK faction merchants) to make up for it while you're at the training dummy. When you are out of combat, your food's health regen kicks in and makes up for it, but in-combat health regen is simply not enough to overcome the drain.

07-29-2009, 06:14 PM	#4
Lac General Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2	Thanks guys. I got to investigating it. Cleared all my buffs, hit the wall, watch health, etc... and you are both exactly right its everburning. I couldnt figure it out cause if you hover over the hot key it just says itcreases attack speed by 41. But now I know, and I won't be running it unless I am in a team as dps. Thanks a bunch!

07-29-2009, 06:39 PM	#5
Aull Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,429	You are welcome.

09-15-2009, 11:15 PM	#11
Mosha D'Khan Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 440	i went to see if i could see how one would do it with just resetting AA brawler tree. i got up to a 88% avoidance and a 52% mit solo in defensive stance. with other buffs and and corcer and a dirge for hate transfers it would be real easy and you would take nearly 0 damage (with raid buff you would probably only take magic). guess that could be good but dont know how well you could hold agro. = ) __________________

09-16-2009, 07:21 AM	#12
Dorieon Server: Guk Guild: Despair Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 171	88% avoid means nothing to raid mobs. What was your uncontested avoidance at? Also, 52% mit won't do much for you when raid mobs strikethrough your avoid check and hit you anyway. So you take a 'bit' more than magic damage when tanking a raid mob.

09-16-2009, 09:16 AM	#13
Mosha D'Khan Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 440	well that is the thing i have not looked at my uncontested avoidance. and you are thinking that 52% mit is with buffs.... with out this spec and in complete dps with only 1 healer (mystic in group) not sure what else i had i got up to a 62% mit in offstance. so will check all that stuff the next time i get on. __________________

11-29-2009, 07:52 PM	#14
Saphirewind Server: Permafrost Guild: Cataclysm Rank: Applicant Yeti Hoars Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 44	BChizzle wrote: Grondak@Nagafen wrote: Zabjade wrote: Zenaide@Mistmoore wrote: LOL Next time you're ripping agro from the tank in groups or raids make sure you read the description of Dragon Stance and do everyone a favor by turning it off. Or shift to Mongoose if you have it, unless you want to be able to snap aggro if the plate falls. Although you probably won't stay up long. Always annoys me when players say this, especially if its a monk - who should know better!! FYI I regularly MT all the TSO instances and am our raids offtank and at times have been RaidMT. A properly specced and geared monk is a near unkillable raidtank --> I'm in nothing fancy just T3 shard set and Mythical + 200 AA/full masters. I can only imagine how easily someone very well-geared like Esar on Guk can MT........ Quit making sense, people here don't like that sort of thing. I LOLed. It isn't that we don't like that sort of thing, it is just that we fear that with which we are unfamiliar. This also applies to logic and reason. __________________ Motto of the monk: live fast, love hard, and leave a beautiful corpse.