FanFaire - Lore Panel?

ariasta · 06-29-2009, 12:39 AM

anyone go and film it this year? or at least have some cliffnotes? only news i havent seen from ff this year

Xalmat · 06-29-2009, 01:08 AM

Dominus Rile was introduced as a major player with TSO, and is up to no good. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of him in the future.

The Odus expansion will talk about the Erudites and why they changed, as well as lore on the fate of Al'Kabor, Ratongas, the Prophecy of the Shissar, and Kerra lore.

There wasn't a whole lot talked about at the lore panel, I think I taped it, so if I did it will be up on Youtube in the near future.

shadowscale · 06-29-2009, 02:43 AM

i still want to know if we will ever get to use Rile's phylacy for anything. i still have it sitting in my invetory gathering dust.

ke'la · 06-29-2009, 03:25 AM

Also alot of other major names where "Still around" but they didn't want to talk about it...in part because they don't want to step on toes of future development.

Dreyco · 06-29-2009, 03:29 AM

Sadly, it was confirmed that the Iksar race was not going to rise to superiority once again and reclaim all of Kunark in the name of glory, retaking Sebilis and Cabilis and then forcing all the other races into submission. This is very upsetting.

In all seriousness however, Venril wanting to off his father again isn't surprising. I'm looking forward to seeing what new lore comes of this development, and others.

Dreyco · 06-29-2009, 03:30 AM

Also, it was once again confirmed that the ice dragon hatchling that we set loose into the world during frostfell was indeed going to be making a return. When and where? We don't know.

Larkverdin · 06-29-2009, 04:23 AM

Xalmat wrote:

Dominus Rile was introduced as a major player with TSO, and is up to no good. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of him in the future.
The Odus expansion will talk about the Erudites and why they changed, as well as lore on the fate of Al'Kabor, Ratongas, the Prophecy of the Shissar, and Kerra lore.
There wasn't a whole lot talked about at the lore panel, I think I taped it, so if I did it will be up on Youtube in the near future.

Since we're talking about Rile, I do have a question regarding him. Now I've completed just about every quest in Riliss that I know of, and I'm max faction with the city as a result. 2 things I'm wondering that I haven't been filled in on in any of the questing.

1) Why is Dominus Rile KoS to everyone? Is there something later on that we find out regarding this? Also regarding this, are there any other plans that Rile is up to other than obviously trying to kill his father and restore iksars to their rightful ruling place on Kunark?

2) How is it that he has a body? Or is it that the sparkling around him is supposed to signify that he is a spirit of some kind? As far as I knew, Venril was resurrected within the body of Rile, which it what we saw back in EQLive. Now with the sarnaks stumbling into I think it was Charasis (sp?) and accidentally finishing his spell of immortality thus making him a lich, send him back into his own body and put Rile's spirit back into his?

p.s. Dreyco, I sympathize with you greatly my scaled brother, I do

shadowscale · 06-29-2009, 07:02 AM

Dreyco wrote:

Also, it was once again confirmed that the ice dragon hatchling that we set loose into the world during frostfell was indeed going to be making a return. When and where? We don't know.

ya suposably as a epic X2. so here we are agen with yet another oh lets kill the dragon thing. bleh...

and if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring...

maby i have been hanging around with other races to much.

Dreyco · 06-29-2009, 03:26 PM

shadowscale wrote:

And if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring...

The question was asked in good humor SMILEY I figured with all the questions raised about rideable gelatenous cubes, I could get away with one SMILEY *Chuckles*

kyrr · 06-29-2009, 04:21 PM

Xalmat wrote:

Kerra lore.

WEEEEEE!

Mistress_of_Nihility · 06-29-2009, 04:32 PM

The lore panel was fun to sit in and see the Lore Developers all giddy and giggling and secretive.

Things we know:Right now none of the superior races will be conquering Norrath... yet.

Ratonga are getting more lore, hooray!

Kerra are getting more lore, hooray. (If you call them Kerran, they get mad btw)

Erudites are getting more lore, hooray!

New Halas will be coming, more lore for Barbarians, hooray! (And apparently it is Ha-la-s, not Hal-As)

More "Interactive Lore Quests" like Vhalen and Doomcookie used to have. Find hints on forum, find quest in game, learn new cool things because you are a lore fiend.

Next years Frostfell Quest will give us some closure... maybe.

The Nights of the Dead event will be even more fun this coming year.

Domino loses her voice really fast.

PANDAS! But not playable... as far as we know.

shadowscale · 06-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Dreyco wrote:

shadowscale wrote:
And if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring...
The question was asked in good humor I figured with all the questions raised about rideable gelatenous cubes, I could get away with one *Chuckles*

heh yep, every panal wasent it? i wouldent mind gelatenous cube shose thogh. if they were tamed maby could do a massage rather then eat your feet.

ke'la · 06-29-2009, 07:56 PM

Here is the part of the Future panel that talked about Odus lore, he went into SLIGHTLY more detail in the earlier panel but not by much.

Mistress_of_Nihility wrote:

Domino loses her voice really fast.

That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her.

Mistress_of_Nihility wrote:

PANDAS! But not playable... as far as we know.

Fixed. SMILEY

Meirril · 06-29-2009, 08:37 PM

Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called?

If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players.

Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden. SMILEY

Rijacki · 06-29-2009, 08:39 PM

kela wrote:

Mistress_of_Nihility wrote:
Domino loses her voice really fast.
That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her.

And she exuberantly talks with everyone in rooms waaaaaay too loud SMILEY

ke'la · 06-29-2009, 08:55 PM

Rijacki wrote:

kela wrote:
Mistress_of_Nihility wrote:
Domino loses her voice really fast.
That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her.
And she exuberantly talks with everyone in rooms waaaaaay too loud

Yes that doesn't help either.

Zabjade · 06-29-2009, 10:32 PM

Meirril wrote:

Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called?
If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players.
Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden.

I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots!

Morghus · 06-29-2009, 10:39 PM

Zabjade wrote:

Meirril wrote:
Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called?
If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players.
Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden.
I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots!

As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making.

Zabjade · 06-29-2009, 11:25 PM

Morghus wrote:

Zabjade wrote:
Meirril wrote:
Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called?
If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players.
Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden.
I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots!
As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making.

We'll have to wait for Velious and the Icepaw Gnolls for that. But if SOE has the guts to give EQ2 the advertizing budget it would be funny.

Rainmare · 06-30-2009, 12:51 AM

Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear.

Cusashorn · 06-30-2009, 01:05 AM

Rainmare@Oasis wrote:

Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear.

Where was that said?

Anestacia · 06-30-2009, 01:21 AM

I have to say this; those pandas are so freaking CUTE lol

Meirril · 06-30-2009, 05:54 AM

Morghus wrote:

Zabjade wrote:
Meirril wrote:
Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called?
If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players.
Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden.
I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots!
As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making.

You wouldn't make one? Didn't you see that dance animation?!?

Meirril · 06-30-2009, 05:56 AM

Rainmare@Oasis wrote:

Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear.

Actually, they are the most likely to detect the influence of the void before other races. They are also the ones most likely to fall victem to the allure of void influence... I wouldn't say this started with the Euradites, but right now I'd bet the ones not directly under void control are probably cursing the arrogance of the ones that are and are working to free them and stop the void invasion. Nevermind that if the positions had been reversed they would of done it too.

Fae · 06-30-2009, 12:15 PM

Panda's would be amazing.

I've always wanted a brute-esqe race. Like gorrillas or something. Panda's would be awesome.

Panda Dirge.

Panda Inquisitor.

omg the selection!

Arianah · 06-30-2009, 04:16 PM

Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm...

Xalmat · 06-30-2009, 04:21 PM

Arianah wrote:

Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm...

I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie).

Homeskillet · 06-30-2009, 04:25 PM

The pandas will likely be in Stonebrunt mountains, where they were in EQ1.

ke'la · 06-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Xalmat wrote:

Arianah wrote:
Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm...
I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie).

Yep, they definatly look intelligent... other then the one doing the Brenlo.

Cusashorn · 06-30-2009, 08:24 PM

Xalmat wrote:

Arianah wrote:
Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm...
I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie).

The models were far too detailed to be PC models anyway, but there was a race of bi-pedal pandas that lived in Stonebrundt...

Well... They were basically panda versions of the Kodiak bear model from Velious, and weren't treated as a race, but apparently they have some culture of their own now.

06-29-2009, 01:08 AM	#2
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Dominus Rile was introduced as a major player with TSO, and is up to no good. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of him in the future. The Odus expansion will talk about the Erudites and why they changed, as well as lore on the fate of Al'Kabor, Ratongas, the Prophecy of the Shissar, and Kerra lore. There wasn't a whole lot talked about at the lore panel, I think I taped it, so if I did it will be up on Youtube in the near future. __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

06-29-2009, 03:25 AM	#4
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Also alot of other major names where "Still around" but they didn't want to talk about it...in part because they don't want to step on toes of future development. __________________

06-29-2009, 03:29 AM	#5
Dreyco Archive of Ik Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,485	Sadly, it was confirmed that the Iksar race was not going to rise to superiority once again and reclaim all of Kunark in the name of glory, retaking Sebilis and Cabilis and then forcing all the other races into submission. This is very upsetting. In all seriousness however, Venril wanting to off his father again isn't surprising. I'm looking forward to seeing what new lore comes of this development, and others. __________________ Grand Historian of The Archive of Ik

06-29-2009, 03:30 AM	#6
Dreyco Archive of Ik Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,485	Also, it was once again confirmed that the ice dragon hatchling that we set loose into the world during frostfell was indeed going to be making a return. When and where? We don't know. __________________ Grand Historian of The Archive of Ik

06-29-2009, 04:23 AM	#7
Larkverdin Server: Unrest_old Guild: The Suffering Rank: Deathdealer Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 117	Xalmat wrote: Dominus Rile was introduced as a major player with TSO, and is up to no good. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of him in the future. The Odus expansion will talk about the Erudites and why they changed, as well as lore on the fate of Al'Kabor, Ratongas, the Prophecy of the Shissar, and Kerra lore. There wasn't a whole lot talked about at the lore panel, I think I taped it, so if I did it will be up on Youtube in the near future. Since we're talking about Rile, I do have a question regarding him. Now I've completed just about every quest in Riliss that I know of, and I'm max faction with the city as a result. 2 things I'm wondering that I haven't been filled in on in any of the questing. 1) Why is Dominus Rile KoS to everyone? Is there something later on that we find out regarding this? Also regarding this, are there any other plans that Rile is up to other than obviously trying to kill his father and restore iksars to their rightful ruling place on Kunark? 2) How is it that he has a body? Or is it that the sparkling around him is supposed to signify that he is a spirit of some kind? As far as I knew, Venril was resurrected within the body of Rile, which it what we saw back in EQLive. Now with the sarnaks stumbling into I think it was Charasis (sp?) and accidentally finishing his spell of immortality thus making him a lich, send him back into his own body and put Rile's spirit back into his? p.s. Dreyco, I sympathize with you greatly my scaled brother, I do

06-29-2009, 12:39 AM	#1
ariasta General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 18	anyone go and film it this year? or at least have some cliffnotes? only news i havent seen from ff this year

06-29-2009, 02:43 AM	#3
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	i still want to know if we will ever get to use Rile's phylacy for anything. i still have it sitting in my invetory gathering dust.

06-29-2009, 07:02 AM	#8
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	Dreyco wrote: Also, it was once again confirmed that the ice dragon hatchling that we set loose into the world during frostfell was indeed going to be making a return. When and where? We don't know. ya suposably as a epic X2. so here we are agen with yet another oh lets kill the dragon thing. bleh... and if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring... maby i have been hanging around with other races to much.

06-29-2009, 03:26 PM	#9
Dreyco Archive of Ik Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,485	shadowscale wrote: And if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring... The question was asked in good humor I figured with all the questions raised about rideable gelatenous cubes, I could get away with one Chuckles __________________ Grand Historian of The Archive of Ik

06-29-2009, 04:21 PM	#10
kyrr General Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 446	Xalmat wrote: Kerra lore. WEEEEEE!

06-29-2009, 04:32 PM	#11
Mistress_of_Nihility Loremaster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 29	The lore panel was fun to sit in and see the Lore Developers all giddy and giggling and secretive. Things we know:Right now none of the superior races will be conquering Norrath... yet. Ratonga are getting more lore, hooray! Kerra are getting more lore, hooray. (If you call them Kerran, they get mad btw) Erudites are getting more lore, hooray! New Halas will be coming, more lore for Barbarians, hooray! (And apparently it is Ha-la-s, not Hal-As) More "Interactive Lore Quests" like Vhalen and Doomcookie used to have. Find hints on forum, find quest in game, learn new cool things because you are a lore fiend. Next years Frostfell Quest will give us some closure... maybe. The Nights of the Dead event will be even more fun this coming year. Domino loses her voice really fast. PANDAS! But not playable... as far as we know.

06-29-2009, 04:45 PM	#12
shadowscale Forum Dragon Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,535	Dreyco wrote: shadowscale wrote: And if the iksar concourd everything... then what would be left to do? it sounds like things would get rather boring... The question was asked in good humor I figured with all the questions raised about rideable gelatenous cubes, I could get away with one Chuckles heh yep, every panal wasent it? i wouldent mind gelatenous cube shose thogh. if they were tamed maby could do a massage rather then eat your feet.

06-29-2009, 07:56 PM	#13
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Here is the part of the Future panel that talked about Odus lore, he went into SLIGHTLY more detail in the earlier panel but not by much. Mistress_of_Nihility wrote: Domino loses her voice really fast. That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her. Mistress_of_Nihility wrote: PANDAS! But not playable... as far as we know. Fixed. __________________

06-29-2009, 08:37 PM	#14
Meirril Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,552	Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called? If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players. Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden.

06-29-2009, 08:39 PM	#15
Rijacki Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,842	kela wrote: Mistress_of_Nihility wrote: Domino loses her voice really fast. That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her. And she exuberantly talks with everyone in rooms waaaaaay too loud __________________

06-29-2009, 08:55 PM	#16
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Rijacki wrote: kela wrote: Mistress_of_Nihility wrote: Domino loses her voice really fast. That maybe do to just about every EQ2 player that knows what she looks like wanting to talk to her...every time I saw her where she wasn't at a panel... there looked like there was a line to talk to her. And she exuberantly talks with everyone in rooms waaaaaay too loud Yes that doesn't help either. __________________

06-29-2009, 10:32 PM	#17
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	Meirril wrote: Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called? If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players. Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden. I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots! __________________

06-29-2009, 10:39 PM	#18
Morghus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,105	Zabjade wrote: Meirril wrote: Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called? If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players. Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden. I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots! As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making.

06-29-2009, 11:25 PM	#19
Zabjade Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,631	Morghus wrote: Zabjade wrote: Meirril wrote: Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called? If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players. Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden. I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots! As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making. We'll have to wait for Velious and the Icepaw Gnolls for that. But if SOE has the guts to give EQ2 the advertizing budget it would be funny. __________________

06-30-2009, 12:51 AM	#20
Rainmare Server: Oasis Guild: Pillage Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,982	Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear.

06-30-2009, 01:05 AM	#21
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Rainmare@Oasis wrote: Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear. Where was that said?

06-30-2009, 01:21 AM	#22
Anestacia Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,171	I have to say this; those pandas are so freaking CUTE lol __________________

06-30-2009, 05:54 AM	#23
Meirril Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,552	Morghus wrote: Zabjade wrote: Meirril wrote: Huh, the pandas are new. I wonder what they will be called? If they turn out to be playable, that would actually really cheeze off a lot of WoW players. Personally I'd settle for an illusion. Oh, and a Panda pet for my warden. I SAY MAKE THEM PLAYABLE just to cheese off the WoWdiots! As temporarily funny as that would be, I would rather they spend their developer "zots" making a player race I would actually seriously consider making. You wouldn't make one? Didn't you see that dance animation?!?

06-30-2009, 05:56 AM	#24
Meirril Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,552	Rainmare@Oasis wrote: Anyone else not surprised to find out that the Erudites screwing with magical things is apparently what has gotten us into this mess? there as bad as gnomes, I swear. Actually, they are the most likely to detect the influence of the void before other races. They are also the ones most likely to fall victem to the allure of void influence... I wouldn't say this started with the Euradites, but right now I'd bet the ones not directly under void control are probably cursing the arrogance of the ones that are and are working to free them and stop the void invasion. Nevermind that if the positions had been reversed they would of done it too.

06-30-2009, 12:15 PM	#25
Fae Server: Everfrost Guild: Alpha Omega Rank: Centurion General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 22	Panda's would be amazing. I've always wanted a brute-esqe race. Like gorrillas or something. Panda's would be awesome. Panda Dirge. Panda Inquisitor. omg the selection! __________________ This is Kindayr, my old account finally died .bcn ftw!

06-30-2009, 04:16 PM	#26
Arianah Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 406	Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm...

06-30-2009, 04:21 PM	#27
Xalmat EQ2Achieve.com Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,895	Arianah wrote: Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm... I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie). __________________ EQ2Achieve - Your guide to all EverQuest II Achievements

06-30-2009, 04:25 PM	#28
Homeskillet Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 388	The pandas will likely be in Stonebrunt mountains, where they were in EQ1. __________________ Solufein Alastrarran

06-30-2009, 04:58 PM	#29
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Xalmat wrote: Arianah wrote: Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm... I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie). Yep, they definatly look intelligent... other then the one doing the Brenlo. __________________

06-30-2009, 08:24 PM	#30
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Xalmat wrote: Arianah wrote: Panda's are a warm climate animal, and the new starter city is far from warm... I doubt that Pandas will be part of New Halas. But besides that, the pandas shown at the Fan Faire panel were sentient-looking bipedal pandas, not your run-of-the-mill wild animal panda (Think Kung Fu Panda, the movie). The models were far too detailed to be PC models anyway, but there was a race of bi-pedal pandas that lived in Stonebrundt... Well... They were basically panda versions of the Kodiak bear model from Velious, and weren't treated as a race, but apparently they have some culture of their own now.