Dear Qeynos and Freeport - Token farming

Zexxii · 04-03-2009, 11:01 AM

Since it appears everyone is going to farm tokens for the unforseeable future, can we at least decide to take it somewhere where we don't have to zone every time a writ is done and lag the servers?

Can we move to say... Butcherblock docks or something? Let's decide on a better location if we MUST engage in token farming.

What say you?

Faenril · 04-03-2009, 11:09 AM

We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks SMILEY

Cloakentuna · 04-03-2009, 11:12 AM

Faenril@Nagafen wrote:

We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks

Not everybody can rez at the nek docks, you'd never get everybody to agree to it.

Faenril · 04-03-2009, 11:29 AM

Froggleg@Nagafen wrote:

Faenril@Nagafen wrote:
We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks
Not everybody can rez at the nek docks, you'd never get everybody to agree to it.

really ? didn't know SMILEY

Zexxii · 04-03-2009, 03:40 PM

so, vote, which zone that doesnt' inovlve zoning to turn in a writ or bank, vote now!

Aiyana · 04-03-2009, 04:28 PM

Just like not everyone can rez at kp dox but since qeynos doesnt leave there fp is forced to hoof it

Leko · 04-03-2009, 04:34 PM

Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it.

Azekah1 · 04-03-2009, 04:37 PM

Leko wrote:

Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it.

No, it's just proof some players never change...

The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5.

Leko · 04-03-2009, 04:40 PM

Azekah1 wrote:

Leko wrote:
Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it.
No, it's just proof some players never change...
The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5.

Only because you have a lvl 33 toon. Once you hit end game you will be on the dock with the rest farming away.

Azekah1 · 04-03-2009, 05:12 PM

Leko wrote:

Azekah1 wrote:
Leko wrote:
Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it.
No, it's just proof some players never change...
The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5.
Only because you have a lvl 33 toon. Once you hit end game you will be on the dock with the rest farming away.

lol, my sig is only one of my chars...

Kurindor_Mythecnea · 04-03-2009, 05:21 PM

BBM would be the best option but people will never move from LS cause you can go in and AOE around an area the size of a township's inn.

Zexxii · 04-03-2009, 05:29 PM

Leko wrote:

Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it.

i don't agree with the token farming either, but i don't see it ending any time soon, so, in lieu of roaming rok zones for hours on end without seeing any form of real pvp, i thought i'd attempt to make the token farming faster so we can get back to real pvp,

after i get my chest piece, i'ma start playing my alts till the stupidity is over

Kurindor_Mythecnea · 04-03-2009, 05:30 PM

It might be a waste to not get a full set! Don't hurt yourself Zexxii! GRIND WITH US NAO!!!!!!!! Lol.

Zexxii · 04-03-2009, 05:31 PM

Seliri@Nagafen wrote:

BBM would be the best option but people will never move from LS cause you can go in and AOE around an area the size of a township's inn.

the beach off kp docks would suffice, let's MOVE people, get this done quicker! ready? go!

Kurindor_Mythecnea · 04-03-2009, 05:35 PM

LS docks farming isnt that bad for expedience...in fact it's probably the best! Sometimes i finish writs with 3-5 minutes of cooldown on my next writ! SMILEY

BlueEternal · 04-03-2009, 05:38 PM

R.I.P PVP, this is quite sad to see really.

Zexxii · 04-03-2009, 05:48 PM

Naroc@Nagafen wrote:

R.I.P PVP, this is quite sad to see really.

/amen

Killque · 04-03-2009, 05:56 PM

What are tokens?

Desna · 04-03-2009, 06:37 PM

I don't mind the token farming near as bad as the Qs on Venkor atm, who the majority of zone in, kill some, zone out and camp the immune at docks til people come off recent. Sad really.

BlueEternal · 04-04-2009, 04:24 AM

Definitely just got a 2k+ kill streak in 4 hours of pvp in this zerg fest

Ssue · 04-04-2009, 05:22 AM

Naroc@Nagafen wrote:

Definitely just got a 2k+ kill streak in 4 hours of pvp in this zerg fest

Which shows you, (Onyx), are part of the problem. Your guild standing in the middle LS docks is helping to fuel this problem. You guys & gals could help stop this by not getting in the middle and allowing the rest of us to leech off your kills. I think you could ask either city faction and get the same answer, writ turn around is a lot faster with you guys in the middle. This is because you aren't running off to get new writs so the flow of battle is constant. When the cities go at it the balance of power shifts as people bail to close out the writs. This slows the battle and sometimes just kills it because the other faction can’t muster the force to combat the numbers.

Also, I know I am not innocent, I’m part of the problem too. I am one of the ones standing on the rock above you lobbing arrows and spells into the crowd. So please don’t take this wrong, I am not blaming you or Onyx. I just want to point out, if you guys weren’t in the middle of it, it would be a lot harder for the cities to gain tokens.

jam3 · 04-04-2009, 06:15 PM

onyx ends up killing 50%+ of all the people that update everyones wirts, you just throw down a few blues and wait for them to kill them.

Jamil · 04-04-2009, 06:28 PM

thats why we need fame loss again.

old system + fame decay imo.

Cyst · 04-04-2009, 06:39 PM

Denyo@Nagafen wrote:

thats why we need fame loss again.
old system + fame decay imo.

I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ.

This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before.

Ibunubi · 04-04-2009, 06:42 PM

Denyo@Nagafen wrote:

thats why we need fame loss again.
old system + fame decay imo.

Yep. Lol, goes to show how many people and no-names were afraid of losing fame, most of whom hardly had titles. Pathetic, really.

Ibunubi · 04-04-2009, 08:41 PM

Cyst@Venekor wrote:

Denyo@Nagafen wrote:
thats why we need fame loss again.
old system + fame decay imo.
I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ.
This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before.

But you see, that's the sad part. The writs didn't change. The writ updates didn't change. The chest drops and losing coin didn't change. But infamy loss on death was removed.

BlueEternal · 04-04-2009, 09:29 PM

Ibunubi wrote:

Cyst@Venekor wrote:
Denyo@Nagafen wrote:
thats why we need fame loss again.
old system + fame decay imo.
I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ.
This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before.
But you see, that's the sad part. The writs didn't change. The writ updates didn't change. The chest drops and losing coin didn't change. But infamy loss on death was removed.

Which shows this whole infamy change was pointless! I'm with what Denyo said, Old system + fame decay

Kurindor_Mythecnea · 04-04-2009, 10:48 PM

If we go back to the old system then fame decay surely shouldn't occur while offline (unless it's something simple like I suggested, being, every week a toon hasn't logged in, they lose 1 full solo fame hit).

Cyst · 04-05-2009, 01:32 AM

Seliri@Nagafen wrote:

If we go back to the old system then fame decay surely shouldn't occur while offline (unless it's something simple like I suggested, being, every week a toon hasn't logged in, they lose 1 full solo fame hit).

That's not a bad idea, but I would say every 2-3 days, not a full 7 days. UNLESS you take a full fame hit while offline, or online if you have not gained fame at all during that 7 days.

Faenril · 04-05-2009, 06:24 AM

Denyo@Nagafen wrote:

old system + fame decay imo.

04-03-2009, 11:12 AM	#3
Cloakentuna Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 853	Faenril@Nagafen wrote: We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks Not everybody can rez at the nek docks, you'd never get everybody to agree to it.

04-03-2009, 11:29 AM	#4
Faenril Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Sushi Maker - Alt Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,136	Froggleg@Nagafen wrote: Faenril@Nagafen wrote: We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks Not everybody can rez at the nek docks, you'd never get everybody to agree to it. really ? didn't know

04-03-2009, 04:28 PM	#6
Aiyana Server: Nagafen Guild: Onyx Rank: Friends and Family Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 32	Just like not everyone can rez at kp dox but since qeynos doesnt leave there fp is forced to hoof it __________________

04-03-2009, 04:34 PM	#7
Leko Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 263	Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it. __________________

04-03-2009, 04:37 PM	#8
Azekah1 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,887	Leko wrote: Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it. No, it's just proof some players never change... The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5.

04-03-2009, 11:01 AM	#1
Zexxii Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 181	Since it appears everyone is going to farm tokens for the unforseeable future, can we at least decide to take it somewhere where we don't have to zone every time a writ is done and lag the servers? Can we move to say... Butcherblock docks or something? Let's decide on a better location if we MUST engage in token farming. What say you?

04-03-2009, 11:09 AM	#2
Faenril Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Sushi Maker - Alt Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,136	We could zerg the nek beach that would significantly reduce the server load with same net result tbh. Or go back to KP docks

04-03-2009, 03:40 PM	#5
Zexxii Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 181	so, vote, which zone that doesnt' inovlve zoning to turn in a writ or bank, vote now!

04-03-2009, 04:40 PM	#9
Leko Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 263	Azekah1 wrote: Leko wrote: Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it. No, it's just proof some players never change... The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5. Only because you have a lvl 33 toon. Once you hit end game you will be on the dock with the rest farming away. __________________

04-03-2009, 05:12 PM	#10
Azekah1 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,887	Leko wrote: Azekah1 wrote: Leko wrote: Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it. No, it's just proof some players never change... The rest of us are out pvping where the fps rate is above 5. Only because you have a lvl 33 toon. Once you hit end game you will be on the dock with the rest farming away. lol, my sig is only one of my chars...

04-03-2009, 05:21 PM	#11
Kurindor_Mythecnea Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,072	BBM would be the best option but people will never move from LS cause you can go in and AOE around an area the size of a township's inn. __________________ \|-\| EverQuest Next Principles to Abide by (30) \|-\| True Ks: 40.2K Ds: 3.6K Ratio:11:1 \|-\| \|-\| PvP Briefing 101 (Outdated) \|-\| 45 Points of Awesome-o for PvP! \|-\|

04-03-2009, 05:29 PM	#12
Zexxii Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 181	Leko wrote: Is this really what the PvP system has become? We have to agree to just token farming on this scale? If there was ever proff that the PvP system was broken beyond repair this is it. i don't agree with the token farming either, but i don't see it ending any time soon, so, in lieu of roaming rok zones for hours on end without seeing any form of real pvp, i thought i'd attempt to make the token farming faster so we can get back to real pvp, after i get my chest piece, i'ma start playing my alts till the stupidity is over

04-03-2009, 05:30 PM	#13
Kurindor_Mythecnea Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,072	It might be a waste to not get a full set! Don't hurt yourself Zexxii! GRIND WITH US NAO!!!!!!!! Lol. __________________ \|-\| EverQuest Next Principles to Abide by (30) \|-\| True Ks: 40.2K Ds: 3.6K Ratio:11:1 \|-\| \|-\| PvP Briefing 101 (Outdated) \|-\| 45 Points of Awesome-o for PvP! \|-\|

04-03-2009, 05:31 PM	#14
Zexxii Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 181	Seliri@Nagafen wrote: BBM would be the best option but people will never move from LS cause you can go in and AOE around an area the size of a township's inn. the beach off kp docks would suffice, let's MOVE people, get this done quicker! ready? go!

04-03-2009, 05:35 PM	#15
Kurindor_Mythecnea Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,072	LS docks farming isnt that bad for expedience...in fact it's probably the best! Sometimes i finish writs with 3-5 minutes of cooldown on my next writ! __________________ \|-\| EverQuest Next Principles to Abide by (30) \|-\| True Ks: 40.2K Ds: 3.6K Ratio:11:1 \|-\| \|-\| PvP Briefing 101 (Outdated) \|-\| 45 Points of Awesome-o for PvP! \|-\|

04-03-2009, 05:38 PM	#16
BlueEternal Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 553	R.I.P PVP, this is quite sad to see really.

04-03-2009, 05:48 PM	#17
Zexxii Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 181	Naroc@Nagafen wrote: R.I.P PVP, this is quite sad to see really. /amen

04-03-2009, 05:56 PM	#18
Killque Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,112	What are tokens?

04-03-2009, 06:37 PM	#19
Desna Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Veeshans Fury Rank: Vegeta Cheerleading squad -Recruit Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 256	I don't mind the token farming near as bad as the Qs on Venkor atm, who the majority of zone in, kill some, zone out and camp the immune at docks til people come off recent. Sad really.

04-04-2009, 04:24 AM	#20
BlueEternal Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 553	Definitely just got a 2k+ kill streak in 4 hours of pvp in this zerg fest

04-04-2009, 05:22 AM	#21
Ssue Server: Nagafen Guild: Replaced Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 164	Naroc@Nagafen wrote: Definitely just got a 2k+ kill streak in 4 hours of pvp in this zerg fest Which shows you, (Onyx), are part of the problem. Your guild standing in the middle LS docks is helping to fuel this problem. You guys & gals could help stop this by not getting in the middle and allowing the rest of us to leech off your kills. I think you could ask either city faction and get the same answer, writ turn around is a lot faster with you guys in the middle. This is because you aren't running off to get new writs so the flow of battle is constant. When the cities go at it the balance of power shifts as people bail to close out the writs. This slows the battle and sometimes just kills it because the other faction can’t muster the force to combat the numbers. Also, I know I am not innocent, I’m part of the problem too. I am one of the ones standing on the rock above you lobbing arrows and spells into the crowd. So please don’t take this wrong, I am not blaming you or Onyx. I just want to point out, if you guys weren’t in the middle of it, it would be a lot harder for the cities to gain tokens. __________________

04-04-2009, 06:15 PM	#22
jam3 General Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 724	onyx ends up killing 50%+ of all the people that update everyones wirts, you just throw down a few blues and wait for them to kill them.

04-04-2009, 06:28 PM	#23
Jamil Server: Venekor Guild: Extreme Suspects Rank: Sumpfkuh General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 197	thats why we need fame loss again. old system + fame decay imo. __________________ DENYO & JAMILIA PVP VIDEOS

04-04-2009, 06:39 PM	#24
Cyst Server: Venekor Guild: Circle of Storms Rank: Officer Alt (Raid Capable) Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,609	Denyo@Nagafen wrote: thats why we need fame loss again. old system + fame decay imo. I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ. This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before.

04-04-2009, 06:42 PM	#25
Ibunubi Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 346	Denyo@Nagafen wrote: thats why we need fame loss again. old system + fame decay imo. Yep. Lol, goes to show how many people and no-names were afraid of losing fame, most of whom hardly had titles. Pathetic, really. __________________

04-04-2009, 08:41 PM	#26
Ibunubi Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 346	Cyst@Venekor wrote: Denyo@Nagafen wrote: thats why we need fame loss again. old system + fame decay imo. I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ. This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before. But you see, that's the sad part. The writs didn't change. The writ updates didn't change. The chest drops and losing coin didn't change. But infamy loss on death was removed. __________________

04-04-2009, 09:29 PM	#27
BlueEternal Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 553	Ibunubi wrote: Cyst@Venekor wrote: Denyo@Nagafen wrote: thats why we need fame loss again. old system + fame decay imo. I bet over half of those people would still do what they're doing today, regardless of fame. Unless you never really went out to look at the HUGE raid on raid fights on Naggy around the KP docks. Especially when there was no cool down for getting a new writ. This type of farming has been, and will always be an old problem, and fame never stopped it before. But you see, that's the sad part. The writs didn't change. The writ updates didn't change. The chest drops and losing coin didn't change. But infamy loss on death was removed. Which shows this whole infamy change was pointless! I'm with what Denyo said, Old system + fame decay

04-04-2009, 10:48 PM	#28
Kurindor_Mythecnea Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,072	If we go back to the old system then fame decay surely shouldn't occur while offline (unless it's something simple like I suggested, being, every week a toon hasn't logged in, they lose 1 full solo fame hit). __________________ \|-\| EverQuest Next Principles to Abide by (30) \|-\| True Ks: 40.2K Ds: 3.6K Ratio:11:1 \|-\| \|-\| PvP Briefing 101 (Outdated) \|-\| 45 Points of Awesome-o for PvP! \|-\|

04-05-2009, 01:32 AM	#29
Cyst Server: Venekor Guild: Circle of Storms Rank: Officer Alt (Raid Capable) Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,609	Seliri@Nagafen wrote: If we go back to the old system then fame decay surely shouldn't occur while offline (unless it's something simple like I suggested, being, every week a toon hasn't logged in, they lose 1 full solo fame hit). That's not a bad idea, but I would say every 2-3 days, not a full 7 days. UNLESS you take a full fame hit while offline, or online if you have not gained fame at all during that 7 days.

04-05-2009, 06:24 AM	#30
Faenril Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Sushi Maker - Alt Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,136	Denyo@Nagafen wrote: old system + fame decay imo.