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Unread 12-22-2008, 06:34 PM   #1
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Imprisoner Y'nosii has an effect on him that does 110% of your maximum health if you attack him while not in the body of a creature.  Problem is if you attack him while in the body of a creature his name turns grey, and you get no loot. 

Even tried attacking him first NOT in creature form and keeping people out of creature form, but it seems that if anybody attacks him in creature form he won't yield a chest at the end.

So, you can kill him, if you follow what it hints you are suppose to do, but you won't get a chest.

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Unread 12-22-2008, 11:09 PM   #2
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Have one person in your group not get in the creatures. Have that person pull the named (hint, the mob is not control immune, use a mage), and then have the rest of the group kill him in the suits.

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Unread 12-23-2008, 11:02 AM   #3
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Noaani wrote:

Have one person in your group not get in the creatures. Have that person pull the named (hint, the mob is not control immune, use a mage), and then have the rest of the group kill him in the suits.

That's actually the idea I mentioned in the first post, 2nd paragraph.  Had tank pull it, with him and the healer out of creature form.  Then once he was engaged someone in creature form attacked him, he turned to the creature, healer went and jumped in a creature, tank stayed out of creature form the entire time.  At the end of fight there was no chest that way either.

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Unread 12-23-2008, 04:37 PM   #4
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Noaani wrote:

Have one person in your group not get in the creatures. Have that person pull the named (hint, the mob is not control immune, use a mage), and then have the rest of the group kill him in the suits.

Tried that again today - mob even gave experience yet still no chest dropped.  Maybe he's meant to be just an obstacle, no loot named?

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Unread 12-23-2008, 09:39 PM   #5
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aITEM -611994402 844551391:Ynosii's Guard/a

That was the last drop I got off him. Though I agree, the method needed in order to get him to drop anything is convoluted and should be addressed.

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Unread 12-23-2008, 10:57 PM   #6
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I've got a fix in the works for him.

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Unread 12-30-2008, 03:45 PM   #7
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yay someone's got a fix, I can't wait....

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Unread 01-06-2009, 04:28 PM   #8
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1/6/09

No chest from him or any thing else in this room.

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Unread 01-06-2009, 05:52 PM   #9
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BleemTeam wrote:

1/6/09

No chest from him or any thing else in this room.

If I recall the other mobs in the room are all over lvl80, lvl81 and higher mobs can't drop random Adept I's or random Master I's, only the zone's random ornate stuff can come from them.  In RoK mobs over lvl80 would drop lvl80 spells, but for TSO they apparently decided not to do that anymore - only named can be over lvl80 and still drop adepts and masters. (Originally I thought it was a bug with the way zones scaled, but I reported it and it seems to be intended this way)

I can tell you another method that doesn't work though - letting him kill the pocessed creatures then finishing him off with all nonpocessed players.  Still no chest that way either.

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Unread 01-10-2009, 08:52 PM   #10
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I know this isn't getting changed until the next game update, but I wanted to tell you guys this because it's just one of those ARGH moments you have to tell someone.  Had a group overpower the mob, without pocessed creatures, he dropped a chest as people were flying through the air (due to the knockback when you aren't in a pocessed creature body) and guess what happened.  The chest spawned in midair, with no way for anybody to get to it.

Wood chest too - weird for a TSO instance named.  Makes me wonder just what kind of loot he has that it isn't marked legendary or above.

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Unread 01-11-2009, 04:45 PM   #11
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I got a chest by having the coercer mez him then everyone got in creatures and took him down to 1% hp then everyone got out and killed him.

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Unread 01-11-2009, 05:44 PM   #12
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Lethe5683 wrote:

I got a chest by having the coercer mez him then everyone got in creatures and took him down to 1% hp then everyone got out and killed him.

I'm just wondering what kind of unique loot he had that it was a wooden chest - every other TSO named I've seen has been ornate or exquisite.

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Unread 01-21-2009, 09:03 PM   #13
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So has this mob been fixed yet?  We killed him today (01/21/09), and grey and no loot.  Not sure if we did something wrong, or if this just hasn't been fixed yet.

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Unread 01-25-2009, 01:51 AM   #14
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Killed him on 1/24.  He did not grey but we received no xp, no AA, and no chest.  We were all in monster suits and did not attempt any trickery.

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Unread 01-25-2009, 06:56 AM   #15
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1/24 first time in here and went grey

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Unread 01-26-2009, 02:26 AM   #16
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He seems to only do his big knockback and aoe to the people that damage him. We were able to kill him the other day by having only our pets attack him. We started out with the tank attacking and taunting and such, but he got knocked back and killed during the fight, and the warden started tanking through heal aggro. So the warden tanked most of the fight and i just helped keep him up while dogdog, the illus pet and the warlock pet did the attacking. The fight took an extremely long time, and he dropped some non-memorable legendary that was destined for the vendor.

Kind of a toss up on whether we will use the monster suits to speed things up or kill this way and add a lot of extra time to the run. I was glad we were able to kill him this way though, it is worth doing at least once.

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Unread 01-26-2009, 04:14 AM   #17
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Slightly off-topic , but I wonder if he can be made to start wandering again if he agro's in error , currently once he is agro'd when someone pulls him during trash killing and the group wipes , he then stands close to the port in to his area and won't start roaming again.

This makes clearing all the rest of the trash a pain as they have to be pet pulled slowly , involving someone dying / Fding to let the rest run past him so the remainder of the trash can be killed before the fight starts.

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Unread 01-26-2009, 07:02 PM   #18
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You can just mez him and pull the rest of the roamers without fear. If no mezzer you can wait for him to roam away from you, have someone root him and back out of range, periodically refreshing the root.
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Aule@Guk wrote:

You can just mez him and pull the rest of the roamers without fear. If no mezzer you can wait for him to roam away from you, have someone root him and back out of range, periodically refreshing the root.

Not sure if this is in reply to my previous comment , but the problem I've seen 4 or 5 times now is if he agros and the group wipes then he won't start roaming again but sits on one spot , usually right in front of the portal spot.

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Unread 02-05-2009, 11:59 AM   #20
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We had the same problem of him aggroing and wiping us upon entering the portal and then not moving thereafter. 

This fight is sort of interesting in theory, but really needs to be fixed so it just drops loot the way its intended to be killed.

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Unread 02-05-2009, 12:01 PM   #21
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Ilucide wrote:

I've got a fix in the works for him.

hmm.. how is this coming along over a month later now =)

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Unread 02-05-2009, 12:47 PM   #22
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Slowin wrote:

Ilucide wrote:

I've got a fix in the works for him.

hmm.. how is this coming along over a month later now =)

Yes - it would be good to know if he has been fixed...we haven't done this zone since the 2 attempts to get his loot, with no success as yet. This REALLY needs to be a Priority Fix IMO...it just makes players Not ant to do the zone at all from my experience...let us know something please!

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Unread 02-05-2009, 01:17 PM   #23
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As per today's hotfix notes, killing the Imprisoner named will now cause a 2nd mob (it's weakened soul) to spawn.  Killing this new mob will result in a chest drop.

So in a round about way, the problem has now been solved.

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Unread 02-05-2009, 08:13 PM   #24
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So now the second mob spawns while you're still in void form, except it auto aggros and turns grey right away, which means no key to open the chest with and STILL no loot...

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Unread 02-06-2009, 11:29 AM   #25
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Detor wrote:

Lethe5683 wrote:

I got a chest by having the coercer mez him then everyone got in creatures and took him down to 1% hp then everyone got out and killed him.

I'm just wondering what kind of unique loot he had that it was a wooden chest - every other TSO named I've seen has been ornate or exquisite.

I'm not sure. It wouldn't let us open it.

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Unread 02-17-2009, 03:13 PM   #26
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Destriel wrote:

So now the second mob spawns while you're still in void form, except it auto aggros and turns grey right away, which means no key to open the chest with and STILL no loot...

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Yup, we thought this was fixed and tried it last night and got no key drop for the encounter. There was no way to have everyone avoid the orb that spawns which I "assume" drops the key while still in the possessed form. I love the idea of this encounter but it is just not working. 

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Unread 02-17-2009, 04:40 PM   #27
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Destriel wrote:

So now the second mob spawns while you're still in void form, except it auto aggros and turns grey right away, which means no key to open the chest with and STILL no loot...

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I had this happen in a group as well.  Until they look at it again as a workaround what you can do is pull ynosii as far back against the wall of the room as you can and make sure at least 1 person stays out of creature form.  As long as nobody attacks ynosii's weakened soul back you can have that one person intercept, kill ynosii's weakened soul, which will then drop the key as body loot.

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Unread 02-17-2009, 06:16 PM   #28
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What I Do is pull the room, get in form, and everyone goes to the far north area.. pull him... When he is at liek 5%... I as the tank drop form, and pick up the orb as soon as it spawns, and kill it.... Then you get a key...

If you dont pick up the orb  as soon as it spawns, it wlil aggro you while still in the monster form, and you wont get any loot.

SoE needs to go in and make the new orb that spawns after the named dies as a NON-AGGRO mob... thus it wont charge you.

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Unread 02-18-2009, 06:18 PM   #29
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same thing happened with my group we fought yosnil killed him, the soul spawned and agroed, except the soul never died, it just despawned when it agroed us in the suits.  Nice fix SMILEY

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Unread 02-22-2009, 04:43 AM   #30
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What's best about this whole goat-roped encounter is that, 4 months into the expansion, it is STILL broken and, despite what was a semi-clever attempted fix, they didn't do the simplest fix which would be "reduce the dude's agro range so he won't always agro the tank or the puller while clearing the alcoves".  Seriolusly devs, this is too easy.  Instead of trying to implement some uber-sooper-smartz trick like a second mob spawning which is agro to possessed void creatures, just reduce the likelyhood of agroing the mob while setting up to fight the encounter.  THAT is what is breaking it.

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