Station Cash?

[Kere]

I am not on the Test server, but in the other thread about downtime, someone posted the following notes from the Test Server patch:

"EverQuest 2Test Update December / 9 / 2008

STATION CASH

 Station Cash is a new virtual currency from SOE that has been created to allow for the purchase of premium in-game items within EverQuest II.

 To get started, access the "Marketplace" from the EQII Window within the game.  Click on the "Add Funds" button to purchase Station Cash to fund your wallet and then select items to purchase. "

So are RMT (real-money transactions) coming to EQ2?  What prompted this change, and why is this the first we're hearing about it?

[Killerbee3000]

Kerec@Venekor wrote:

So are RMT (real-money transactions) coming to EQ2?  What prompted this change, and why is this the first we're hearing about it?

Not really the first time we hear about it, Smedley (I'm pretty sure it was him) said long ago that he thinks the future of mmorpgs would be legal rmt.

[-Arctura-]

(( since EQ2 is (according to the numbers) frailing away (aka dying), it needs a boost. I guess They feel this boost comes in the form of people spending cash on in game items.

[madha]

Haven't found any information about this. Thnk a dev would have explained what this is.  I dont want to play a rmt game, at least with lon i could sort of ignore it.  Will the station cash buy pp? will i be able to sell pp for station cash.  What exchage rate will station cash use? With the world economy the way it is most peopel dont have cash laying around for station cash.

Maybe it will be liek the sim store and u can buy new cloths and hair styles, you know stuff that should be included in the game for everyone.

[Kere]

They could boost the game if they'd advertise it.  Or make sure stores actually carry the game.

When I started playing back in August, I couldn't find the game for sale in any store around here.  I finally did the digital download just to be able to start playing.

TSO came out 2 weeks ago... I have yet to see it in any stores around here (Best Buy, Walmart).  Now, true, I live in the sticks, but the WoW expansion is all over the place - why not TSO?

Rather than trying to boost the game with RMT, why not boost it with advertising?  Sony has an absolutely amazing game here... why are they risking alienating their slowly eroding fanbase with this?

[Chiyoiche]

i posted this in the other thread as well...

well considering that it says Virtual Currency...im hoping its using your actual in game plat, wich in turn can be used for funds in this new system...EI:tagged to your ENTIRE account, and mebe let you buy things for your chars. Cause...we all know we have at least one char a lil richer than our others.

[Unfeter]

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

[Mithi]

Kk if this happens, i am for sure, we )2 persons atm' will cancel our accounts.

I mean, come on, these stuff you see with free to play games.

Wonder why SOE so desperate wanna destroy a game.

Is in fact against their own uella, or is in game for real dollars bought stuff not same as the freaking webpages where you can buy plat.

I really really really hope this isnt the case, i dont play any other good game next to eq2 (play archlord, free to play, but the good stuff you need to buy with reall money) but if thats the game, no thnx, take advance from other but not from me anymore.

[Kere]

Chiyoiche@Antonia Bayle wrote:

i posted this in the other thread as well...

well considering that it says Virtual Currency...im hoping its using your actual in game plat, wich in turn can be used for funds in this new system...EI:tagged to your ENTIRE account, and mebe let you buy things for your chars. Cause...we all know we have at least one char a lil richer than our others.

There's no point in that.  I can use plat I earn in-game for any in-game purchase as it is.  I can even mail that plat to an alt and let him use it (as long as it's on the same server).  No, I think this is more than just using in-game plat.

[Zarador]

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT.  Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there.  We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it.  I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

[Chiyoiche]

well did you stop to think that mebe its on TEST first for a reason? and we dont know what they will be selling. maybes its a bunch of Fluff items...who knows. Just because it is on TEST does not mean it will go live....unless...they ninjad into the live servers..

[Unfeter]

Zarador wrote:

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT.  Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there.  We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it.  I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

However you are on the server so you can have the option to USE it if you wish.  We are not on that server because we dont want to have that option.  if we wanted that option, we would have rolled with you.

[madha]

Zarador wrote:

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT.  Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there.  We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it.  I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

true but how is the economy on the exchange servers? do masters sell for 100pp of 1k pp? People with disposable $ will be able to totaly distroy the economy on every server if the station cash lets them buy pp.. expect to see more pp sinkcs if soe starts selling pp, they have the advantage over 3rd part sites, soe can print out pp like the federal reserve, and anyone who has taken any ecomonic class knows once you start just printing coin the value of the coin goes down

[feldon30]

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

[Chiyoiche]

feldon30 wrote:

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

this one need to be merged with the original. ^^

[madha]

gives the forum mods soemthign to do =P

[Beggon]

feldon30 wrote:

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

Because that title does not hint towards that thread being about this topic and you are not a mod.

[-Arctura-]

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

Zarador wrote:

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT. Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there. We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it. I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

However you are on the server so you can have the option to USE it if you wish. We are not on that server because we dont want to have that option. if we wanted that option, we would have rolled with you.

(( i dono, but im patching the LIVE version, and i saw a bunch of files whiz past called 'cash.dds' etc etc.

LON generated millions of dollars for SOE. Companies like money

You better believe its gonna happen if it involves profits!

I wonder what kind of premium gear we can buy...

I dont think they are worried about losing patronage, the amount of cash generated from LON dwarfs every single persons monthly fees for standard gameplay accounts.

They can make some serious coin if they do widespread legalized trading on all servers.

PS. Yes, I think they should just advertise the [Removed for Content] game instead but... you know that wont ever happen. They dont want to throw money at posters and signage when they can just tell a few coders to implement woldwide exchange servers for millions less (advertising costs insane amounts of cash (And its WORTH IT imho), but some people dont see that =(

[Swayde]

madhatr wrote:

Zarador wrote:

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT.  Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there.  We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it.  I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

true but how is the economy on the exchange servers? do masters sell for 100pp of 1k pp? People with disposable $ will be able to totaly distroy the economy on every server if the station cash lets them buy pp.. expect to see more pp sinkcs if soe starts selling pp, they have the advantage over 3rd part sites, soe can print out pp like the federal reserve, and anyone who has taken any ecomonic class knows once you start just printing coin the value of the coin goes down

I can't imagine there are a lot of people with tons of disposable income playing EQ2. If I could afford to do more IRL, I would definitely be doing it, rather than playing in a very economical virtual world And who cares if they do? So what if items go up in value...the items are still available for you to go out and farm/camp for yourself.

I do not like the idea of items that are ONLY available if you pay cash for them...that sucks completely, but I'll just have to make do without them and if it gets too out of hand, I'll have to find another game to play or another hobby.

[Unfeter]

feldon30 wrote:

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

Mod police alert!

[feldon30]

Beggon wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

Because that title does not hint towards that thread being about this topic and you are not a mod.

If I were, I would have merged the topics by now.

[madha]

-Arctura- wrote:

(( i dono, but im patching the LIVE version, and i saw a bunch of files whiz past called 'cash.dds' etc etc.

LON generated millions of dollars for SOE. Companies like money

You better believe its gonna happen if it involves profits!

I wonder what kind of premium gear we can buy...

I dont think they are worried about losing patronage, the amount of cash generated from LON dwarfs every single persons monthly fees for standard gameplay accounts.

They can make some serious coin if they do widespread legalized trading on all servers.

PS. Yes, I think they should just advertise the [Removed for Content] game instead but... you know that wont ever happen. They dont want to throw money at posters and signage when they can just tell a few coders to implement woldwide exchange servers for millions less (advertising costs insane amounts of cash (And its WORTH IT imho), but some people dont see that =(

Its to bad too but when the merg all the servers into one they wont have to make new zones just dump more stuff to sell, makes running the game super easy. We could starta user based advertising drive, now somone play they game for liek 48 hours and die so we can get soem free press. joke btw omg dont keel urself for soe.

[Unfeter]

Swayde wrote:

madhatr wrote:

And who cares if they do? So what if items go up in value...the items are still available for you to go out and farm/camp for yourself.

How many T8 masters have you farmed foryourself lately?

[Kere]

Re:  the need for a different topic about this:

Well, the other thread was about the downtime today - not about this specifically... but it is all about this, so yeah if they need merged, go ahead.

[madha]

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

Swayde wrote:

madhatr wrote:

And who cares if they do? So what if items go up in value...the items are still available for you to go out and farm/camp for yourself.

How many T8 masters have you farmed foryourself lately?

dude you missed up quots i didnt say that =P. and a few masters =P maybe 3 lol.

[-Arctura-]

madhatr wrote:

-Arctura- wrote:

(( i dono, but im patching the LIVE version, and i saw a bunch of files whiz past called 'cash.dds' etc etc.

LON generated millions of dollars for SOE. Companies like money

You better believe its gonna happen if it involves profits!

I wonder what kind of premium gear we can buy...

I dont think they are worried about losing patronage, the amount of cash generated from LON dwarfs every single persons monthly fees for standard gameplay accounts.

They can make some serious coin if they do widespread legalized trading on all servers.

PS. Yes, I think they should just advertise the [Removed for Content] game instead but... you know that wont ever happen. They dont want to throw money at posters and signage when they can just tell a few coders to implement woldwide exchange servers for millions less (advertising costs insane amounts of cash (And its WORTH IT imho), but some people dont see that =(

Its to bad too but when the merg all the servers into one they wont have to make new zones just dump more stuff to sell, makes running the game super easy. We could starta user based advertising drive, now somone play they game for liek 48 hours and die so we can get soem free press. joke btw omg dont keel urself for soe.

(( roffle!

[Zarador]

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

Zarador wrote:

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

So to put it bluntly, because the station exchange server is a failure, they are going to force this feature on everyone?

I know everyone doesnt have to use it, but we all rolled on a server where people cannot have that kind of advantage.

Thank goodness no one on those Non-Exchange Servers engage in any RMT.  Wait, maybe they discovered that the 3rd party RMT Market is raking in billions (between the games out there) and not everyone is so honest on the "honest" servers.

I'm on the Exchange Server. We have 5 accounts there.  We never bought or sold on the Exchange, just wanted that option if we felt we needed it.  I guess the difference is that everyone on the Exchange Server IS playing by the same rules; unlike the server that we were on in Everquest Live where so many people were buying and selling coin, characters and gear from a 3rd party site and claiming to have "earned" it all.

However you are on the server so you can have the option to USE it if you wish.  We are not on that server because we dont want to have that option.  if we wanted that option, we would have rolled with you.

Well, you got my honest response because:

• The Bazaar Server, the Exchange Server that I am on seems to be far from a failure based on the amount of players that seem to enjoy playing there.
• People on regular servers spend a ton of real life coin on 3rd party RMT sites so obviously your not on a server where they cant do that.  Why do you think we have a spam filter? If no one purchased RMT items, then no one would be advertising them. 
• People on regular servers have also been using a loophole with LoN by purchasing the packs and then selling them for coin on the Broker.

I do however understand your point of view completely and agree that legitimate RMT should only be permitted on RMT enabled servers.

[feldon30]

Myrddin@Venekor wrote:

feldon30 wrote:

And we need two IDENTICAL topics about this why? http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438321

Mod police alert!

I take people accusing me of being a mod as a compliment.

[Stuge]

[Chiyoiche]

Stugein@Antonia Bayle wrote:

*giggles repeatedly at said .gif*