Major FPS Issues since the update 49, Anyone else?

Exestant · 10-07-2008, 06:27 PM

Yeah since the update this morning my normal 25-60 FPS is now 1-30, and thats with multicore on and off same thing.. I am running a dual core processor also...So the " Faster " running EQ update did the opposite hardcore for me..

Delgaddo · 10-07-2008, 06:34 PM

Yes, I'm also running a dual-core and my FPS dropped pretty substantially since LU 49. So it's not just you.

Mykale2 · 10-07-2008, 08:40 PM

I have a Quad core and have noticed about a 25% increase in FPS.

Dewa · 10-07-2008, 08:54 PM

The update greatly reduced my fps as well. I'm getting less than 50% of what I used to get.

Thunderthyze · 10-08-2008, 12:54 PM

64 bit single core here so shouldn't experience any differences but there are huge lag problems in places like SS where the live event stuff is based. Probably just server load for particular zones. Probably calm down in time.

Anneguish · 10-10-2008, 02:06 PM

The first day of the LU I did notice higer FPS and load rates. But the next day and every day after, its back to the same old FPS and sometimes its even worse. SMILEY

vivanos · 10-11-2008, 10:15 AM

I also have a dual core (AMD 64 X2). I turned multicore support off as I've noticed that I get better overall performance with it off. With it on, areas where I would normaly get an FPS drop, I now get choppy character animation... which drives me crazy. Hopefully the next update will provide better MC support. At least they're working on it though... can't complain too much.

Pratell · 10-11-2008, 02:38 PM

I get a significant FPS drop in combat, going down to like 4-8 FPS versus 16-20 before the LU.

Exestant · 10-12-2008, 12:03 AM

Is there any possible way that we could get a response, even one like were working on the problem at the moment? This makes soloing almost impossible for me unless its a fairly weak mob. The 2-10 FPS dips are frankly ridiculous.

Necthana · 10-13-2008, 11:59 AM

I have also been having problems with my fps since gu49. My fps have been running at about half of what it was before the update. I have tried turning the multicore option on and off but I still have the same problem. Does anyone know if this problem is being addressed?

Darkstar101 · 10-13-2008, 07:04 PM

Out of curiosity, have any of you previously set an affinity for eq2 to a certain core? Since this LU the client now defaults to the highest core and cascades backwards for threaded activity. Having set core affinity may cause an issue.

Majin_MLF · 10-14-2008, 04:22 PM

i havent played for half a year, just patched and wanted to try the multicore support - its awefulmy opteron 185 with geforce 8800 always has hickups now - no matter which setting, even high performancegod, the eq2 devs really suck, i dont think they have any clue about c++ threading and multicore architecture at all - instead oftaking the time to port the graphics engine to use dual core they should have instead ported the graphics engine to use the GPU instead of a CPUlike every other game released in the last 5 years

Cassea · 10-14-2008, 10:30 PM

AMD x2 with Vista 64.... getting about 25-50% boost in fps here depending on where I am.Working great for me... sorry others are having issues.

TSR-DanielH · 10-15-2008, 09:30 PM

I have actually seen an increase in performance on both my home machine and my office PC. It's hard to say exactly whats happening for the people who have seen decreased performance since I haven't noticed a common link between the people reporting the problem.Darkstar has a good point. Did anyone set a CPU affinity at some point before the patch? If you've done so then you'll want to disable that option while running with multicore support turned on.

Necthana · 10-16-2008, 08:58 PM

Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help.

TSR-DanielH · 10-16-2008, 09:32 PM

Necthana@The Bazaar wrote:

Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help.

Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off?

rosie01 · 10-17-2008, 01:39 AM

Just for posterity's sake I am responding here LOL.I also am having significant problems. My fps is no higher than 3 and I have been doing all the TS persons have advised. no luck as of yet.

My question is why me and not my husband? His computer seems fine.

rosie01 · 10-17-2008, 01:40 AM

TSR-DanielH wrote:

Necthana@The Bazaar wrote:
Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help.
Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off?

Daniel, sir, I sent you a PM with my test results. I hope they help.

Vismo · 10-17-2008, 03:10 AM

I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now.

I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100%

8800gts 640

4 gigs of ram

Vista 64

The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4.

What did I do wrong here?

Vismo · 10-17-2008, 03:11 AM

*double post*

Necthana · 10-17-2008, 03:58 PM

TSR-DanielH wrote:

Necthana@The Bazaar wrote:
Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help.
Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off?

I have never had shadows enabled because it slowed my game play too much. I can't think of anything else I can do to improve my fps. I would even be happy with it being back to where it was before the multi-core support, but the only way I can achieve that as of late is to lower my performance settings. I just think their has to be something else going on since I never used to have this issue.

Cassea · 10-18-2008, 04:09 PM

Vismono wrote:

I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now.
I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100%
8800gts 640
4 gigs of ram
Vista 64
The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4.
What did I do wrong here?

I just wanted to comment that "turning everything on to max" and only getting 12-19 fps is normal!How much fps do you expect?There is not a computer in existance today that can play EQ2 with "everything" turned to max and getting 60fps. Resolution also affects this. As long as EQ2 uses our CPU's to process video information and we will always have this limitation. If CPU's were as fast as video cards at processing video info and there would be no need for video cards SMILEY

I really hope you find a solution but I had to laugh a bit when I read that you expected to turn everything in game to max and still get more than 19fps SMILEY

Cassea · 10-18-2008, 04:11 PM

Vismono wrote:

I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now.
I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100%
8800gts 640
4 gigs of ram
Vista 64
The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4.
What did I do wrong here?

I am not being a snot here but I have:AMD 2x core running at 3000mhzVista 649600GTand the game runs fantastic. We have the same OS, you have a faster video card from teh same family and faster CPU so if EQ2 runs so bad it's something on your system and not SOE. I am running at 1050x1080 and I get from 24-60fps with shadows turned on. I do not have everything turned to max but about 75% so perhaps you are expecting too much from a game engine that dates to 2003.

Vismo · 10-18-2008, 05:52 PM

Cassea wrote:

Vismono wrote:
I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now.
I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100%
8800gts 640
4 gigs of ram
Vista 64
The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4.
What did I do wrong here?
I am not being a snot here but I have:AMD 2x core running at 3000mhzVista 649600GTand the game runs fantastic. We have the same OS, you have a faster video card from teh same family and faster CPU so if EQ2 runs so bad it's something on your system and not SOE. I am running at 1050x1080 and I get from 24-60fps with shadows turned on. I do not have everything turned to max but about 75% so perhaps you are expecting too much from a game engine that dates to 2003.

I'm giving it another and doing some tweaking, it's probably some wierd maxed out setting I don't even need. I keep forgetting that eq2 is not the kind of game you want to use the pre-sets with and not tweak. Frustrating though.

Vismo · 10-19-2008, 01:30 PM

Well, this is weird.

After reading about Animation being shuffled to a second core when using multiprocessors, I went ahead and turned everything on animation to max and most of my problems vanished. The only thing I can think of is that it moved much more off the first core when I did this..but even that doesn't make complete sense seeing as it should have been running on the second core anyway. Anyway, some tweaking has restored playability to me, it's just always hard to remember that eq2 has a billion things to tweak and you can't just hit "max" and expect it to play well.

tikasa · 10-19-2008, 05:29 PM

Someone else mentioned that Microsoft in all their glory had an autoupdate for Video cards for Vista. I reinstalled my stock driver that came with the card and poof the problems went away. It is automatically updated if you have updates turned on.

inshiningarmor · 10-19-2008, 10:43 PM

And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.

Cassea · 10-19-2008, 11:52 PM

inshiningarmor wrote:

And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.

I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems.

tikasa · 10-20-2008, 10:06 AM

Cassea wrote:

inshiningarmor wrote:
And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.
I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems.

No he did not install anything. only mine had the auto updates on and he finally fixed the video driver that I had changed =/ So In your EXPERT opinion what did WE and all of the others that are having this issue do to our computers?

jmmaurer · 10-20-2008, 10:31 AM

Cassea wrote:

inshiningarmor wrote:
And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.
I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems.

Cassea, you and Spyder should be paid by SoE, No CSR ever has to tell people their system sucks, because you both beat them to it. PLEASE at LEAST let SOE tell us our systems suck or it is all our fault. People like you are the reason that people that do have problems do not bother posting.

10-08-2008, 12:54 PM	#5
Thunderthyze Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 2,050	64 bit single core here so shouldn't experience any differences but there are huge lag problems in places like SS where the live event stuff is based. Probably just server load for particular zones. Probably calm down in time. __________________

10-15-2008, 09:30 PM	#14
TSR-DanielH Customer Service Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,593	I have actually seen an increase in performance on both my home machine and my office PC. It's hard to say exactly whats happening for the people who have seen decreased performance since I haven't noticed a common link between the people reporting the problem.Darkstar has a good point. Did anyone set a CPU affinity at some point before the patch? If you've done so then you'll want to disable that option while running with multicore support turned on. __________________ Daniel H Technical Support Representative Sony Online Entertainment

10-16-2008, 09:32 PM	#16
TSR-DanielH Customer Service Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,593	Necthana@The Bazaar wrote: Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help. Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off? __________________ Daniel H Technical Support Representative Sony Online Entertainment

10-17-2008, 01:40 AM	#18
rosie01 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 82	TSR-DanielH wrote: Necthana@The Bazaar wrote: Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help. Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off? Daniel, sir, I sent you a PM with my test results. I hope they help.

10-17-2008, 03:58 PM	#21
Necthana Server: The Bazaar Guild: Gnome Punters United Rank: Gnome Punting Coach Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	TSR-DanielH wrote: Necthana@The Bazaar wrote: Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help. Other than multi-core support, the only game engine change I'm aware of effected the shadows for the game. Do you normally run with shadows enabled? Do you see a significant change in FPS when switching it on and off? I have never had shadows enabled because it slowed my game play too much. I can't think of anything else I can do to improve my fps. I would even be happy with it being back to where it was before the multi-core support, but the only way I can achieve that as of late is to lower my performance settings. I just think their has to be something else going on since I never used to have this issue.

10-07-2008, 06:27 PM	#1
Exestant Augur Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11	Yeah since the update this morning my normal 25-60 FPS is now 1-30, and thats with multicore on and off same thing.. I am running a dual core processor also...So the " Faster " running EQ update did the opposite hardcore for me..

10-07-2008, 06:34 PM	#2
Delgaddo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8	Yes, I'm also running a dual-core and my FPS dropped pretty substantially since LU 49. So it's not just you.

10-07-2008, 08:40 PM	#3
Mykale2 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 8	I have a Quad core and have noticed about a 25% increase in FPS.

10-07-2008, 08:54 PM	#4
Dewa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	The update greatly reduced my fps as well. I'm getting less than 50% of what I used to get.

10-10-2008, 02:06 PM	#6
Anneguish Server: The Bazaar Guild: Broken Souls Rank: Senior Member ( 100000 + status ) Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Detroit Posts: 7	The first day of the LU I did notice higer FPS and load rates. But the next day and every day after, its back to the same old FPS and sometimes its even worse.

10-11-2008, 10:15 AM	#7
vivanos Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 15	I also have a dual core (AMD 64 X2). I turned multicore support off as I've noticed that I get better overall performance with it off. With it on, areas where I would normaly get an FPS drop, I now get choppy character animation... which drives me crazy. Hopefully the next update will provide better MC support. At least they're working on it though... can't complain too much.

10-11-2008, 02:38 PM	#8
Pratell Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 56	I get a significant FPS drop in combat, going down to like 4-8 FPS versus 16-20 before the LU.

10-12-2008, 12:03 AM	#9
Exestant Augur Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 11	Is there any possible way that we could get a response, even one like were working on the problem at the moment? This makes soloing almost impossible for me unless its a fairly weak mob. The 2-10 FPS dips are frankly ridiculous.

10-13-2008, 11:59 AM	#10
Necthana Server: The Bazaar Guild: Gnome Punters United Rank: Gnome Punting Coach Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	I have also been having problems with my fps since gu49. My fps have been running at about half of what it was before the update. I have tried turning the multicore option on and off but I still have the same problem. Does anyone know if this problem is being addressed?

10-13-2008, 07:04 PM	#11
Darkstar101 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 31	Out of curiosity, have any of you previously set an affinity for eq2 to a certain core? Since this LU the client now defaults to the highest core and cascades backwards for threaded activity. Having set core affinity may cause an issue.

10-14-2008, 04:22 PM	#12
Majin_MLF Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22	i havent played for half a year, just patched and wanted to try the multicore support - its awefulmy opteron 185 with geforce 8800 always has hickups now - no matter which setting, even high performancegod, the eq2 devs really suck, i dont think they have any clue about c++ threading and multicore architecture at all - instead oftaking the time to port the graphics engine to use dual core they should have instead ported the graphics engine to use the GPU instead of a CPUlike every other game released in the last 5 years

10-14-2008, 10:30 PM	#13
Cassea Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 269	AMD x2 with Vista 64.... getting about 25-50% boost in fps here depending on where I am.Working great for me... sorry others are having issues.

10-16-2008, 08:58 PM	#15
Necthana Server: The Bazaar Guild: Gnome Punters United Rank: Gnome Punting Coach Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14	Hi Daniel. First off let me say thanks for the response. I have never set a CPU affinity so I doubt it could be that. In another post you also mentioned that it might be a background application so I followed your directions and cleared my startup programs. I also plan on sending a bug report in game as you had suggested. At this point I still seem to be having issues with my FPS. I am at a point where I have actually had to lower my settings in game so I could retain the same FPS that I am used to. I hope to get an answer after reporting the bug in game, but in the meantime if you have any other ideas I would appreciate hearing them. Thanks again for all of your help.

10-17-2008, 01:39 AM	#17
rosie01 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 82	Just for posterity's sake I am responding here LOL.I also am having significant problems. My fps is no higher than 3 and I have been doing all the TS persons have advised. no luck as of yet. My question is why me and not my husband? His computer seems fine.

10-17-2008, 03:10 AM	#19
Vismo General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39	I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now. I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100% 8800gts 640 4 gigs of ram Vista 64 The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4. What did I do wrong here?

10-17-2008, 03:11 AM	#20
Vismo General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39	double post

10-18-2008, 04:09 PM	#22
Cassea Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 269	Vismono wrote: I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now. I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100% 8800gts 640 4 gigs of ram Vista 64 The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4. What did I do wrong here? I just wanted to comment that "turning everything on to max" and only getting 12-19 fps is normal!How much fps do you expect?There is not a computer in existance today that can play EQ2 with "everything" turned to max and getting 60fps. Resolution also affects this. As long as EQ2 uses our CPU's to process video information and we will always have this limitation. If CPU's were as fast as video cards at processing video info and there would be no need for video cards I really hope you find a solution but I had to laugh a bit when I read that you expected to turn everything in game to max and still get more than 19fps

10-18-2008, 04:11 PM	#23
Cassea Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 269	Vismono wrote: I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now. I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100% 8800gts 640 4 gigs of ram Vista 64 The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4. What did I do wrong here? I am not being a snot here but I have:AMD 2x core running at 3000mhzVista 649600GTand the game runs fantastic. We have the same OS, you have a faster video card from teh same family and faster CPU so if EQ2 runs so bad it's something on your system and not SOE. I am running at 1050x1080 and I get from 24-60fps with shadows turned on. I do not have everything turned to max but about 75% so perhaps you are expecting too much from a game engine that dates to 2003.

10-18-2008, 05:52 PM	#24
Vismo General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39	Cassea wrote: Vismono wrote: I just re-uped after reading about the multi-core support and it's horrible. I'm so mad at myself right now. I have a quad core at 3.4 and it only uses core 4 at 100% 8800gts 640 4 gigs of ram Vista 64 The game runs horribly. I was shocked at how bad it runs. With everything turned on to max I get about 12-19 fps in some places. I can't beleive it. I even rollled back my drivers to an older one people had some luck with. Still bad. No other game I've tried performs so poorly, including AoC and WAR. I know these are all different engines, but I can't get over how bad performance is and I'm getting almost no use out of any other cores but #4. What did I do wrong here? I am not being a snot here but I have:AMD 2x core running at 3000mhzVista 649600GTand the game runs fantastic. We have the same OS, you have a faster video card from teh same family and faster CPU so if EQ2 runs so bad it's something on your system and not SOE. I am running at 1050x1080 and I get from 24-60fps with shadows turned on. I do not have everything turned to max but about 75% so perhaps you are expecting too much from a game engine that dates to 2003. I'm giving it another and doing some tweaking, it's probably some wierd maxed out setting I don't even need. I keep forgetting that eq2 is not the kind of game you want to use the pre-sets with and not tweak. Frustrating though.

10-19-2008, 01:30 PM	#25
Vismo General Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39	Well, this is weird. After reading about Animation being shuffled to a second core when using multiprocessors, I went ahead and turned everything on animation to max and most of my problems vanished. The only thing I can think of is that it moved much more off the first core when I did this..but even that doesn't make complete sense seeing as it should have been running on the second core anyway. Anyway, some tweaking has restored playability to me, it's just always hard to remember that eq2 has a billion things to tweak and you can't just hit "max" and expect it to play well.

10-19-2008, 05:29 PM	#26
tikasa Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 283	Someone else mentioned that Microsoft in all their glory had an autoupdate for Video cards for Vista. I reinstalled my stock driver that came with the card and poof the problems went away. It is automatically updated if you have updates turned on.

10-19-2008, 10:43 PM	#27
inshiningarmor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 72	And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.

10-19-2008, 11:52 PM	#28
Cassea Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 269	inshiningarmor wrote: And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy. I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems.

10-20-2008, 10:06 AM	#29
tikasa Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 283	Cassea wrote: inshiningarmor wrote: And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy. I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems. No he did not install anything. only mine had the auto updates on and he finally fixed the video driver that I had changed =/ So In your EXPERT opinion what did WE and all of the others that are having this issue do to our computers?

10-20-2008, 10:31 AM	#30
jmmaurer Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2	Cassea wrote: inshiningarmor wrote: And now the poster above me cannot even log on. Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created. Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now. and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad 1 is a dual 1 is a Single core. All are running at least 4gb up to 32 BG of ram. Thet WERE running just fine. Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy. I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems. Cassea, you and Spyder should be paid by SoE, No CSR ever has to tell people their system sucks, because you both beat them to it. PLEASE at LEAST let SOE tell us our systems suck or it is all our fault. People like you are the reason that people that do have problems do not bother posting.