eq/eq2 website www.eqlivinglegacy.com, what is it?

[Luier]

Meinen wrote:

Deathmate wrote:

So say you join a cell phone company.... and you pay for the phone... sign up fee's etc etc. Then 8 months later they have a promotion where they are handing out free cell phones and sign up is free for new or RETURNING customers. Are you going to call Sprint...Verizon or who ever it maybe and [I cannot control my vocabulary] to them about how you feel left out. Countless number of companies do stuff like this to increase their user base.... MMO's are no diff. People need to stop being me me me and start thinking whats best for EQ2 as a game; im sure we all enjoy playing and want to continue to play.

In all reality EQ2 doesnt have to give us ANYTHING.. we are paying for a service that they are providing.... anything they give us above and beyond that is a gift that they dont HAVE to do.

Would getting extra shiney's be nice.... hell yea it would.... do they HAVE to give them out.... no.

And for all we know they may have items lined up for their loyal customers that they have not announced yet

Unless you are buying an Iphone, you shouldn't ever pay money for a cell phone in the first place, if you do, you deserve to get hosed (and people with Iphones did get hosed and they complained, sure apple said sorry suckers, but i can guarantee you they lost repeat customers). So many deals that they offer for current and new customers.

And we, that don't agree with the way this promo was handled, don't have to sit down and say "oh holy SOE marketing genius, this is the best promo ever! We give thanks to you for giving to those returning players free playtime, free expansion and free fluff...not to mention giving them their vet rewards like they never left! Thank you for such a generous gift to those who felt that this game sucked sooo bad it wasn't worth the $15 a month. We would also like to thank you for taking our money and using it to do this for these people so that they can come back, just to leave when its over! Also, please forgive those that have been your loyal customers for over the last 3+ yrs and expect some fluff as well...they do not understand that they deserve nothing, nothing whatsoever from you besides making sure that the server is up. I LIVE TO MENTOR, OH WISE ONE!!"

actually they have announced that they have some goodies, but you have to win them. I guess being a quitter makes you a winner in the eyes of the EQ2 marketing department.

Oh yeah, Welcome back returning players....seriously, no sarcasm i am being for real. just don't suck as players and we're golden.

Vet rewards from soe have ALWAYS been tied to the start up date of the account, not time payed for.  Its the same way in starwars galaxies and the matrix online, too.

[Meinen]

ok, then you can take the vet rewards out of my statement lol

[JonasBlackmore]

Wingrider01 wrote:

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:

Nolrog wrote:

This is the whinniest bunch of infants I've seen in a while.  I almost thought I was on the WoW forums.

With my 3 accounts this amounts to $210. So complain a bit, sure thing. Since money means so little to you I will send you my paypal account and you can deposit that $210 into my account and I will gladly shut up. Many thanks, let me know when I can expect the deposit.

$210.00 for 3 accounts??? If you are talking about the expansion would like to know who is taking you to the cleaners

14.99 / month2 months3 accounts---------------89.94RoK - 29.993 accounts---------------89.97So there's 179.91.  Perhaps he bought the RoK retail when it first came out and was more expensive, and that jumps his total.  Either way, it's still a good chunk of change.I know the feeling.  I just reactivated my two accounts last month as did one of my RL friends.   One of my accounts I didn't reactivate until 5/13/08, but I still didn't receive any of these "come back perks"

[ClawHammr]

Grimwell wrote:

 ?Perhaps I'm just too much of a positive person, but I have been very excited thinking about all the players that can now jump back into EQII and adventure with me!

Clearly you have not played a Necro in EQ2 or you would understand the feeling of "Negative" 

All I know is I better have some XP Potions in my bag by Midnight tonight

I need them

[Gilasil]

JonasBlackmore wrote:

Wingrider01 wrote:

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:

Nolrog wrote:

This is the whinniest bunch of infants I've seen in a while.  I almost thought I was on the WoW forums.

With my 3 accounts this amounts to $210. So complain a bit, sure thing. Since money means so little to you I will send you my paypal account and you can deposit that $210 into my account and I will gladly shut up. Many thanks, let me know when I can expect the deposit.

$210.00 for 3 accounts??? If you are talking about the expansion would like to know who is taking you to the cleaners

14.99 / month2 months3 accounts---------------89.94RoK - 29.993 accounts---------------89.97So there's 179.91.  Perhaps he bought the RoK retail when it first came out and was more expensive, and that jumps his total.  Either way, it's still a good chunk of change.I know the feeling.  I just reactivated my two accounts last month as did one of my RL friends.   One of my accounts I didn't reactivate until 5/13/08, but I still didn't receive any of these "come back perks"

They didn't charge you more then you expected, they just gave some other people some freebies.  If you couldn't afford it before the promotional the promotional wouldn't have changed anything.  If you could afford it well, you can still afford it.

Talk to CS.  Maybe they'll be sympathetic.  Maybe they won't.  As another paying subscriber who missed out on the special but who isn't all that peeved over it I don't really care.

On the other hand, just for grins I made a new char and played the AB Neriak newbie zone tonight.  It was pretty exciting hearing newbie discussions and realizing there were a LOT of people on who hadn't been playing -- apparently in a LONG while.

[Luier]

Meinen wrote:

ok, then you can take the vet rewards out of my statement lol

im sorry man, no offense..I just knew about the vet rewards and posted it.

[Meinen]

Luier wrote:

Meinen wrote:

ok, then you can take the vet rewards out of my statement lol

im sorry man, no offense..I just knew about the vet rewards and posted it.

none taken at all, its good to know and i have no problem being wrong

[tj_and_dan]

Ive gotta laugh....Hard.The same people here with the "Sony dosent owe you anything", "quit whining" attitude are the same people who will willingly bend over for Sony time and again without even the benefit of a reach around...... Ive never seen such staunch defenders of anything.Developers cheat and you defend Sony.Broken content. you defend Sony.Lag (when only 3 people are in a zone). you defend Sony.Promotion that is a slap in the face to loyal customers. you defend Sony.Well, you keep on defending Sony as the pathetic numbers of players continues to dwindle. (Its not Sony fault, right?) I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now. This is the worst "marketing" idea I have ever heard of....AND NO, this is nothing like a cable or telephone company and thats a really stupid comparison.Sony (for your $15 a month) DOES owe you a game that works properly. A game that is marketed AND SOLD IN STORES (to gain new players). An answer to allegations of developers cheating. etc., etc, etc.The whole "sony dosnt owe you anything" attitude is the very reason that this game has died (RIP EQ2)....And yes, this game is dead. Because of that very attitude shared by the "elitist" and by Sony.EQ2 is a good game that was ruined by a company that dosent care about its customers (only their money) and when a good portion of their customers are idiots who feel that apparently they dont deserve to be treated as valued consumers but rather are willing to take whatever crap is tossed their way.....Well, you get what you deserve.This is a half hearted attempt by Sony to gain back the numbers they need to avoid a complete and total collapse. Sony should have thought about that long ago. Too little, too late.I am (at this time) not playing ANY MMO and still will not waste my time playing EQ2 free. I give EQ2 a life expectancy of 9 months until total shutdown (with the already stellar number of  players dropping immensely as of Aug 1st.) People who keep defending Sony are as much at fault here as Sony. You only ever get what you demand.No, Im not whining. What good id a Fae Drake if your the only one playing and cannot even show it off? No thanx.... I am having more fun reading these boards and watching the culmination of all that Sony (and a bit of its "undeserving" customer base) has brought on itself. Karma?

[Spyderbite]

tj_and_danna wrote:

I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now.

How did you post if you quit several months ago? Only active accounts can post.I'd address each of your rants individually, but I'm actually logging in and enjoying the game that you believe sucks so badly.

[bryldan]

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:

tj_and_danna wrote:

I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now.

How did you post if you quit several months ago? Only active accounts can post.I'd address each of your rants individually, but I'm actually logging in and enjoying the game that you believe sucks so badly.

I mean i would think you could solve your own answers but considering you cannot ill just say well he does have two free months to post on this board.........

[Luier]

tj_and_danna wrote:

Ive gotta laugh....Hard.The same people here with the "Sony dosent owe you anything", "quit whining" attitude are the same people who will willingly bend over for Sony time and again without even the benefit of a reach around...... Ive never seen such staunch defenders of anything.Developers cheat and you defend Sony.Broken content. you defend Sony.Lag (when only 3 people are in a zone). you defend Sony.Promotion that is a slap in the face to loyal customers. you defend Sony.Well, you keep on defending Sony as the pathetic numbers of players continues to dwindle. (Its not Sony fault, right?) I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now. This is the worst "marketing" idea I have ever heard of....AND NO, this is nothing like a cable or telephone company and thats a really stupid comparison.Sony (for your $15 a month) DOES owe you a game that works properly. A game that is marketed AND SOLD IN STORES (to gain new players). An answer to allegations of developers cheating. etc., etc, etc.The whole "sony dosnt owe you anything" attitude is the very reason that this game has died (RIP EQ2)....And yes, this game is dead. Because of that very attitude shared by the "elitist" and by Sony.EQ2 is a good game that was ruined by a company that dosent care about its customers (only their money) and when a good portion of their customers are idiots who feel that apparently they dont deserve to be treated as valued consumers but rather are willing to take whatever crap is tossed their way.....Well, you get what you deserve.This is a half hearted attempt by Sony to gain back the numbers they need to avoid a complete and total collapse. Sony should have thought about that long ago. Too little, too late.I am (at this time) not playing ANY MMO and still will not waste my time playing EQ2 free. I give EQ2 a life expectancy of 9 months until total shutdown (with the already stellar number of  players dropping immensely as of Aug 1st.) People who keep defending Sony are as much at fault here as Sony. You only ever get what you demand.No, Im not whining. What good id a Fae Drake if your the only one playing and cannot even show it off? No thanx.... I am having more fun reading these boards and watching the culmination of all that Sony (and a bit of its "undeserving" customer base) has brought on itself. Karma?

no, SWG, MxO, Vangard...those games are dead.....

EQ2 is doing very well, I know noone believes me but the game that is in trouble is WoW.  WoW is all combat, and although they do combat very very very well, its al they do!  No houseing, no meaningful crafting, looted is always better than what you can buy from others, and to top it all off...welfare epic gear for pvpers who dont even play the game. If wow's next expansion is as lame as the last one, they will start loseing alot of players, and remember they only have 3,000,000 us subs (i know thats alot but only 30% of their total, most are in china).  As those us subs fall, many of them will try other mmorpgs, AoC is pretty lame if you ask me, I've never been into that genre of story. CoH/CoV is too repetative, and sony has the station access, where do you think these people will go???

[Spyderbite]

bryldan wrote:

I mean i would think you could solve your own answers but considering you cannot ill just say well he does have two free months to post on this board.........

Perhaps I didn't word that well. What I meant was if he hated the game so much because of Sony, why would he want to take advantage of this promotion? I can't eat at Burger King. Its murder on my stomach and the food is awful. So, I'm not going to go out and load up on Whoopers just because they sent me 2 months of coupons for free food. And, further more, I'm not going to go hang out at the drive through and tell people how much I hate their food.

[dawy]

From the launch of ROK till now the numbers have slowly dwindled down on RE that is

[liveja]

bryldan wrote:

well he does have two free months to post on this board.........

So does my older brother, but he's mature enough to understand that since he doesn't like EQ2, there's no point in trolling the forums about it.

[SenorPhrog]

tj_and_danna wrote:

Ive gotta laugh....Hard.The same people here with the "Sony dosent owe you anything", "quit whining" attitude are the same people who will willingly bend over for Sony time and again without even the benefit of a reach around...... Ive never seen such staunch defenders of anything.Developers cheat and you defend Sony.Broken content. you defend Sony.Lag (when only 3 people are in a zone). you defend Sony.Promotion that is a slap in the face to loyal customers. you defend Sony.Well, you keep on defending Sony as the pathetic numbers of players continues to dwindle. (Its not Sony fault, right?) I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now. This is the worst "marketing" idea I have ever heard of....AND NO, this is nothing like a cable or telephone company and thats a really stupid comparison.Sony (for your $15 a month) DOES owe you a game that works properly. A game that is marketed AND SOLD IN STORES (to gain new players). An answer to allegations of developers cheating. etc., etc, etc.The whole "sony dosnt owe you anything" attitude is the very reason that this game has died (RIP EQ2)....And yes, this game is dead. Because of that very attitude shared by the "elitist" and by Sony.EQ2 is a good game that was ruined by a company that dosent care about its customers (only their money) and when a good portion of their customers are idiots who feel that apparently they dont deserve to be treated as valued consumers but rather are willing to take whatever crap is tossed their way.....Well, you get what you deserve.This is a half hearted attempt by Sony to gain back the numbers they need to avoid a complete and total collapse. Sony should have thought about that long ago. Too little, too late.I am (at this time) not playing ANY MMO and still will not waste my time playing EQ2 free. I give EQ2 a life expectancy of 9 months until total shutdown (with the already stellar number of  players dropping immensely as of Aug 1st.) People who keep defending Sony are as much at fault here as Sony. You only ever get what you demand.No, Im not whining. What good id a Fae Drake if your the only one playing and cannot even show it off? No thanx.... I am having more fun reading these boards and watching the culmination of all that Sony (and a bit of its "undeserving" customer base) has brought on itself. Karma?

You know you could have saved a lot of time and murdered grammar by just saying "EQ2 is Doooooooooooooooomed"

[Buz_Weaver]

Returning after 4 Years Vet and I have to admit I'm quite impressed with EQII. In a perfect world/launch this would have been how I would have liked to have seen the game. The changes that have been made have really opened up the game making it far less micromanaged. The shame of it is you don't see EQII on a lot of game shelves and new MMOers are hearing all about WoW or upcoming games. EQII really has a lot of substance and it keeps within the EQ type gaming content play style, respectively. EQII is a solid game now and has come into its own. I really appreciate SOE's promotion and I'm really excited about coming back and playing.

[Tayros]

Zumi@Venekor wrote:

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:

*Takes a look around the thread and sighs*I've seen less whine in Nappa Valley. /nodsTake a deep breath folks. Marketing people are neither stupid or callous. Let this whole summer thing play out first. I remember throwing a tantrum on Christmas morning that lasted 3 hours because I didn't get an Atari 2600. On the way home from church my dad stopped off at a Salvation Army box and dumped a wrapped present in the donation bin. When I asked what that was he'd donated he replied."That was your Atari 2600".Lighten up and take your foot off the gas. You have no idea yet what is or isn't in store for the existing customers this summer.

I like that view..."Amen", Spiderbite.

LOL! I made it to page 20, biting my tongue the whole way until this!"I didn't forget your birthday, baby!!! your present is at the office; let me just run over there and pick it up!"I for one don't care. I have my own agenda in-game and won't have time for any "special player" events. I'm assuming this doesn't mean challenged people. I just want the free time tacked on to my account because I like playing the game.

[DragonMaster2385]

Buz_Weaver wrote:

Returning after 4 Years Vet and I have to admit I'm quite impressed with EQII. In a perfect world/launch this would have been how I would have liked to have seen the game. The changes that have been made have really opened up the game making it far less micromanaged. The shame of it is you don't see EQII on a lot of game shelves and new MMOers are hearing all about WoW or upcoming games. EQII really has a lot of substance and it keeps within the EQ type gaming content play style, respectively. EQII is a solid game now and has come into its own. I really appreciate SOE's promotion and I'm really excited about coming back and playing.

Welcome back to the game.  Most players will agree with you that the game is a ton better than it was at launch.  It truely is a shame that it got off to such a rocky start; I could see this game bigger than WoW if it would have been released in a better state.  The availability of the game will change when TSO is released.  I hope that the marketing department makes as big of a push as they did for this living legacy thing.

[Elebu]

Deathmate wrote:

Ok.... I like how ppl make this all about them... its not about you its about the game... its about bringing back players to the game. I have been here 3 days after the servers went live ( would of been sooner but the pre-order tin was stuck or lost in the mail) and me im all for this.

Only thing i would say is they need to post this on MMO sites letting ppl know that; If you had a trial account or a sub account that they cancelled they can play for 2 months for free, all the expansion etc. etc.

Lets see... would I want more shiney's to play with OR more players to play with.....

A HUGE (cap'd for emphasis!!) thread started about this in the SWG forum that by days end the mod had got around to deleting, so I know there was some good word of mouth spread over there.  That's where I bailed from - one of SOE's other games that they don't care about - contrasted to EQ2 that is.

But yeah, just imagine a MMORPG with like - alot of players! Crazy notion that...

[Talz]

Kenman@Crushbone wrote:

TheSummoned wrote:

All I'ma do with the 60 day sub is troll these forums! Muahahahaha!!!

Right on!Anyway, seriously anybody defending SOE here is the kind of pathetic sap SOE knows will stay no matter what kind of crap they go through.  I'd bet if SOE decided to make EQ2 free for life for all new accounts, but current subscribers had to pay $30 a month, Kiara would be right here cheering on SOE and defending them to the death.This game is a broken pile of crap.  SOE doesn't care about even attempting to improve it, and they believe that their current subscribers are complete idiots.  Grats on proving them right and not giving them any reason whatsoever to attempt to make the game suck less.Here's the *intelligent* way to look at the promotion:Wow, I'm getting rewarded for NOT paying SOE.  Two months play time?  Golly, if I actually enjoyed this game I would play for two months, which is easily enough time to get to 80 and clear all the raid zones, then get burnt out and not want to play anymore.   So, then I just let my free subscription expire and next year maybe they'll reward me again so I can repeat it with the next expansion!

And you're still here because?

[Luier]

kidzulu wrote:

Deathmate wrote:

Ok.... I like how ppl make this all about them... its not about you its about the game... its about bringing back players to the game. I have been here 3 days after the servers went live ( would of been sooner but the pre-order tin was stuck or lost in the mail) and me im all for this.

Only thing i would say is they need to post this on MMO sites letting ppl know that; If you had a trial account or a sub account that they cancelled they can play for 2 months for free, all the expansion etc. etc.

Lets see... would I want more shiney's to play with OR more players to play with.....

A HUGE (cap'd for emphasis!!) thread started about this in the SWG forum that by days end the mod had got around to deleting, so I know there was some good word of mouth spread over there.  That's where I bailed from - one of SOE's other games that they don't care about - contrasted to EQ2 that is.

But yeah, just imagine a MMORPG with like - alot of players! Crazy notion that...

That was my thread on swg, not only did they delete the thread but they banned me from the forums also...so, I took 1 for the team!

[Luier]

Talzar wrote:

Kenman@Crushbone wrote:

TheSummoned wrote:

All I'ma do with the 60 day sub is troll these forums! Muahahahaha!!!

Right on!Anyway, seriously anybody defending SOE here is the kind of pathetic sap SOE knows will stay no matter what kind of crap they go through.  I'd bet if SOE decided to make EQ2 free for life for all new accounts, but current subscribers had to pay $30 a month, Kiara would be right here cheering on SOE and defending them to the death.This game is a broken pile of crap.  SOE doesn't care about even attempting to improve it, and they believe that their current subscribers are complete idiots.  Grats on proving them right and not giving them any reason whatsoever to attempt to make the game suck less.Here's the *intelligent* way to look at the promotion:Wow, I'm getting rewarded for NOT paying SOE.  Two months play time?  Golly, if I actually enjoyed this game I would play for two months, which is easily enough time to get to 80 and clear all the raid zones, then get burnt out and not want to play anymore.   So, then I just let my free subscription expire and next year maybe they'll reward me again so I can repeat it with the next expansion!

And you're still here because?

those 2 free months and those rewards not only brought me and 4 of my friends back, but we are all talking about how good eq2 is compared to when we quit and we all plan to resub after the promo, and there are alot of guys on our ventrillo that have never played, but they hear us having a good time and 2 of them are thinking about trying the game...is there still a trial version they can download?

[Finriel]

I am pretty sure there is a download right on the livinglegacy website.

[Vidden]

tj_and_danna wrote:

Ive gotta laugh....Hard.The same people here with the "Sony dosent owe you anything", "quit whining" attitude are the same people who will willingly bend over for Sony time and again without even the benefit of a reach around...... Ive never seen such staunch defenders of anything.Developers cheat and you defend Sony.Broken content. you defend Sony.Lag (when only 3 people are in a zone). you defend Sony.Promotion that is a slap in the face to loyal customers. you defend Sony.Well, you keep on defending Sony as the pathetic numbers of players continues to dwindle. (Its not Sony fault, right?) I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now. This is the worst "marketing" idea I have ever heard of....AND NO, this is nothing like a cable or telephone company and thats a really stupid comparison.Sony (for your $15 a month) DOES owe you a game that works properly. A game that is marketed AND SOLD IN STORES (to gain new players). An answer to allegations of developers cheating. etc., etc, etc.The whole "sony dosnt owe you anything" attitude is the very reason that this game has died (RIP EQ2)....And yes, this game is dead. Because of that very attitude shared by the "elitist" and by Sony.EQ2 is a good game that was ruined by a company that dosent care about its customers (only their money) and when a good portion of their customers are idiots who feel that apparently they dont deserve to be treated as valued consumers but rather are willing to take whatever crap is tossed their way.....Well, you get what you deserve.This is a half hearted attempt by Sony to gain back the numbers they need to avoid a complete and total collapse. Sony should have thought about that long ago. Too little, too late.I am (at this time) not playing ANY MMO and still will not waste my time playing EQ2 free. I give EQ2 a life expectancy of 9 months until total shutdown (with the already stellar number of  players dropping immensely as of Aug 1st.) People who keep defending Sony are as much at fault here as Sony. You only ever get what you demand.No, Im not whining. What good id a Fae Drake if your the only one playing and cannot even show it off? No thanx.... I am having more fun reading these boards and watching the culmination of all that Sony (and a bit of its "undeserving" customer base) has brought on itself. Karma?

QFT... bad grammer and all.

[Elebu]

Luier wrote:

kidzulu wrote:

Deathmate wrote:

Ok.... I like how ppl make this all about them... its not about you its about the game... its about bringing back players to the game. I have been here 3 days after the servers went live ( would of been sooner but the pre-order tin was stuck or lost in the mail) and me im all for this.

Only thing i would say is they need to post this on MMO sites letting ppl know that; If you had a trial account or a sub account that they cancelled they can play for 2 months for free, all the expansion etc. etc.

Lets see... would I want more shiney's to play with OR more players to play with.....

A HUGE (cap'd for emphasis!!) thread started about this in the SWG forum that by days end the mod had got around to deleting, so I know there was some good word of mouth spread over there.  That's where I bailed from - one of SOE's other games that they don't care about - contrasted to EQ2 that is.

But yeah, just imagine a MMORPG with like - alot of players! Crazy notion that...

That was my thread on swg, not only did they delete the thread but they banned me from the forums also...so, I took 1 for the team! " width="15" height="15" />

LOL! I get the feeling there is some huge animosity going on behind the scenes betwixt the SWG and EQ/2 live crews right about now.

I do feel for the SWG crew though, they really are trying and you can tell they just aren't getting the same love from up above this game currently is.

[interstellarmatter]

Galuen@Nektulos wrote:

tj_and_danna wrote:

Ive gotta laugh....Hard.The same people here with the "Sony dosent owe you anything", "quit whining" attitude are the same people who will willingly bend over for Sony time and again without even the benefit of a reach around...... Ive never seen such staunch defenders of anything.Developers cheat and you defend Sony.Broken content. you defend Sony.Lag (when only 3 people are in a zone). you defend Sony.Promotion that is a slap in the face to loyal customers. you defend Sony.Well, you keep on defending Sony as the pathetic numbers of players continues to dwindle. (Its not Sony fault, right?) I am so glad I quit this game several months ago because had I not I would be [Removed for Content] right now. This is the worst "marketing" idea I have ever heard of....AND NO, this is nothing like a cable or telephone company and thats a really stupid comparison.Sony (for your $15 a month) DOES owe you a game that works properly. A game that is marketed AND SOLD IN STORES (to gain new players). An answer to allegations of developers cheating. etc., etc, etc.The whole "sony dosnt owe you anything" attitude is the very reason that this game has died (RIP EQ2)....And yes, this game is dead. Because of that very attitude shared by the "elitist" and by Sony.EQ2 is a good game that was ruined by a company that dosent care about its customers (only their money) and when a good portion of their customers are idiots who feel that apparently they dont deserve to be treated as valued consumers but rather are willing to take whatever crap is tossed their way.....Well, you get what you deserve.This is a half hearted attempt by Sony to gain back the numbers they need to avoid a complete and total collapse. Sony should have thought about that long ago. Too little, too late.I am (at this time) not playing ANY MMO and still will not waste my time playing EQ2 free. I give EQ2 a life expectancy of 9 months until total shutdown (with the already stellar number of  players dropping immensely as of Aug 1st.) People who keep defending Sony are as much at fault here as Sony. You only ever get what you demand.No, Im not whining. What good id a Fae Drake if your the only one playing and cannot even show it off? No thanx.... I am having more fun reading these boards and watching the culmination of all that Sony (and a bit of its "undeserving" customer base) has brought on itself. Karma?

QFT... bad grammer and all.

Which truth?  The poster was an idiot or just had bad grammer.

[Luier]

kidzulu wrote:

Luier wrote:

kidzulu wrote:

Deathmate wrote:

Ok.... I like how ppl make this all about them... its not about you its about the game... its about bringing back players to the game. I have been here 3 days after the servers went live ( would of been sooner but the pre-order tin was stuck or lost in the mail) and me im all for this.

Only thing i would say is they need to post this on MMO sites letting ppl know that; If you had a trial account or a sub account that they cancelled they can play for 2 months for free, all the expansion etc. etc.

Lets see... would I want more shiney's to play with OR more players to play with.....

A HUGE (cap'd for emphasis!!) thread started about this in the SWG forum that by days end the mod had got around to deleting, so I know there was some good word of mouth spread over there.  That's where I bailed from - one of SOE's other games that they don't care about - contrasted to EQ2 that is.

But yeah, just imagine a MMORPG with like - alot of players! Crazy notion that...

That was my thread on swg, not only did they delete the thread but they banned me from the forums also...so, I took 1 for the team! " width="15" height="15">

LOL! I get the feeling there is some huge animosity going on behind the scenes betwixt the SWG and EQ/2 live crews right about now.

I do feel for the SWG crew though, they really are trying and you can tell they just aren't getting the same love from up above this game currently is.

Hey, I think soe is a great company, its just that swg has to deal with lucas arts and eq2 doesnt have to deal with anyone.  I really wasnt trying to cause a big sceen over there either, just wanted to point out to the swg players that soe is capable of advertisment and promotion and was asking for something similar fom them to bring in more subs to swg.

The sad fact though, is that wow has an over-abundance of the market share, hell its almost a monopoly. Out of the 16 million mmorpg players world wide, wow has 10,000,000 of them.  Its unbelieveable that a mmorpg thats all about combat is the best selling one.  How can they (wow players) handle no housing and terrible crafting.

[Vidden]

Haha the bad grammer for sure, but the points that s/he tries to make.

[liveja]

I still think the only problem with this promotion is that they announced it before they had solid information as to whether or not the existing loyal customers were going to get anything, as well. Beyond that, I just don't see the big hairy deal everyone has running up their backsides.

OTOH, from the tone of some of these so-called "loyal customers", I gotta wonder if SOE is thinking, "Why do we even put up with these trolls in the first place?" I swear, just once I'd like to see a mod/Dev step into these forums & say, "Hey, if you don't like our product or service, take your money elsewhere, we don't need your rotten attitude!"

After all, that's what they told ME back in January ... & I didn't go anywhere near as far as some of the people in this thread. Seriously, there are some people in this player community that desperately need to grow up, or else get punted.

[Luier]

Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:

I still think the only problem with this promotion is that they announced it before they had solid information as to whether or not the existing loyal customers were going to get anything, as well. Beyond that, I just don't see the big hairy deal everyone has running up their backsides.

OTOH, from the tone of some of these so-called "loyal customers", I gotta wonder if SOE is thinking, "Why do we even put up with these trolls in the first place?" I swear, just once I'd like to see a mod/Dev step into these forums & say, "Hey, if you don't like our product or service, take your money elsewhere, we don't need your rotten attitude!"

After all, that's what they told ME back in January ... & I didn't go anywhere near as far as some of the people in this thread. Seriously, there are some people in this player community that desperately need to grow up, or else get punted.

Where do you get that from? Im sure they know exactly what is planned, they just havent told the players.