Coverage needs to be look at again.

[Anekuh]

I know there was an old post about this combat art, but it really irks me that it does not work all the time. Plus, the time to actually use it probably cost rangers dps since you have to be a certain distance from the mob. Also, the combat art will only work if there are no mobs nearby. Are you kidding me???

How many rangers actually use this?

Can someone look into this and make the CA more likeable???

[Solvantis]

I know some of the rangers use this, I have tried and tried and tried again. I feel im a pretty darn good player of my ranger, but cannot justify the drop in dps. I took this CA off my hotbar. It really sucks that the  "unique" lvl 80 CA of ours sucks so bad and has such stupid restrictions on it..

[Anekuh]

Thon'gian wrote:

I know some of the rangers use this, I have tried and tried and tried again. I feel im a pretty darn good player of my ranger, but cannot justify the drop in dps. I took this CA off my hotbar. It really sucks that the  "unique" lvl 80 CA of ours sucks so bad and has such stupid restrictions on it..

I totally agree. When I "try" to use it and failed, my dps drops big time. The multiple restrictions on it is crazy.

[Ranja]

Anekuh wrote:

Thon'gian wrote:

I know some of the rangers use this, I have tried and tried and tried again. I feel im a pretty darn good player of my ranger, but cannot justify the drop in dps. I took this CA off my hotbar. It really sucks that the  "unique" lvl 80 CA of ours sucks so bad and has such stupid restrictions on it..

I totally agree. When I "try" to use it and failed, my dps drops big time. The multiple restrictions on it is crazy.

I have the master version and dont even use it. I cant use it without it lowering my DPS. Plus, if it doesn't work you are really screwed. No use complaining though -we are fixed, Aerlick has moved on.

[Elephanton]

Thon'gian wrote:

I know some of the rangers use this, I have tried and tried and tried again. I feel im a pretty darn good player of my ranger, but cannot justify the drop in dps. I took this CA off my hotbar. It really sucks that the  "unique" lvl 80 CA of ours sucks so bad and has such stupid restrictions on it..

It's a tradition for rangers to have unique CAs which suck.Remember level 65 bird thingy? Coverage just continues this trend.

[BigDaddy28]

I only use it on mobs that I have to stay back on....which isnt many at all.

[gfx]

How can it "fail" ?

[Neiloch]

You can fail if you try to use it too close to the mob, I know thats one way. Thats the restriction i think they need to get rid of personally. its like a RP'ing restriction. but its stupid because scouts have invis's they can do right next to a mob. Either need to get rid of the restriction or make the bonuses on it more significant. Does make me think they are trying to ,very slowly mind you, make rangers range the whole time in a fight. I have no problem with it but if thats what their doing they need to do it quicker, like in one expansion, not spread out over time since the games release.We already got that [Removed for Content] bird, really getting sick of these 'round about' or severely indirect ways to do things.

[gfx]

Coverage is instant cast, and you need a little range on whoever you're using it on. That's the way coverage works. Live with it.

[Krakelkr]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Coverage is instant cast, and you need a little range on whoever you're using it on. That's the way coverage works.snip

Pretty sure it doesn't work if you're close to mobs you'not using it on. I don't understand why.

[Anekuh]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Coverage is instant cast, and you need a little range on whoever you're using it on.That's the way coverage works.Live with it.

The IQ of this thread just went down a few notches.

It does not work properly every time. Trying to meet both conditions is simply stupid. Why? Becuase you are losing dps to get off a "more" powerful attack and you have to be further away from your sweet spot. Get it now?

[gfx]

Coverage is just used to get a huge hit, not to up your dps, I think. It always works for me, but it needs alot of range. and uh, threads don't have IQ's so .. you fail.

[Anekuh]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Coverage is just used to get a huge hit, not to up your dps, I think. It always works for me, but it needs alot of range.and uh, threads don't have IQ's so .. you fail.

LOL.

Glad you figured out how it works.

Why have a CA that lowers your dps just to have a big hit? That makes zero sense and makes the CA worthless.

Your response just acknowledge the IQ failure.

[gfx]

Why ? To get the highest hit on the mob, to get the highest hit WW as a ranger. "I think" = my opinion. Is that so funny ?

[speedycerv]

gfxdk, please stop talking. More importantly, i agree this ca is useless except on long range fights and in most cases on avatar im getting knocked back or hit by an aoe every 10  odd seconds. and yes if u use it, it will hurt ur dps. in addition to it not being useful, u have to wait after u click coverage in order to cast the stealth attack, u cant hit it and then queue up your next attack, it will not queue, because it needs u to wait. unlike spy, or longstab where u can hit one and instantly queue up the next ca.

[ChodeNode1]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Why ? To get the highest hit on the mob, to get the highest hit WW as a ranger.

/facepalm

[Anekuh]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Why ? To get the highest hit on the mob, to get the highest hit WW as a ranger."I think" = my opinion. Is that so funny ?

ROFL!

[Ranja]

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Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Why ? To get the highest hit on the mob, to get the highest hit WW as a ranger.

/facepalm

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[KniteShayd]

Granted, I'm not 80, but from what it sounds like is, if you were only doing ranged it might be considered, especially for brust dps.  But i can say that any thing that can take you out of a sweet spot isn't worth it dps wise.  And with a chance to fail it makes it even less worth it.

I'd be curious to see what pvp applications the CA has though...

[gfx]

Uryuu@Befallen wrote:

gfxdk, please stop talking. More importantly, i agree this ca is useless except on long range fights and in most cases on avatar im getting knocked back or hit by an aoe every 10  odd seconds. and yes if u use it, it will hurt ur dps. in addition to it not being useful, u have to wait after u click coverage in order to cast the stealth attack, u cant hit it and then queue up your next attack, it will not queue, because it needs u to wait. unlike spy, or longstab where u can hit one and instantly queue up the next ca.

you stop talking, bluebie freak.

[Mirkanon]

Neiloch wrote:

You can fail if you try to use it too close to the mob, I know thats one way. Thats the restriction i think they need to get rid of personally. its like a RP'ing restriction. but its stupid because scouts have invis's they can do right next to a mob. Either need to get rid of the restriction or make the bonuses on it more significant. Does make me think they are trying to ,very slowly mind you, make rangers range the whole time in a fight. I have no problem with it but if thats what their doing they need to do it quicker, like in one expansion, not spread out over time since the games release.We already got that [I cannot control my vocabulary] bird, really getting sick of these 'round about' or severely indirect ways to do things.

I also got this spell as a M1.  Overall I think I got it working once maybe twice.  With the mechanics of our mythical saying max DPS stay within 5m of the mob, I only use this skill if it is a ranged fight.  Does get me in trouble with my tank.... I've ripped aggro from him all night

[feldon30]

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Coverage is instant cast, and you need a little range on whoever you're using it on. That's the way coverage works. Live with it.

You lose DPS by using it. Ranger has no other purpose than DPS. Obviously you have no clue how to play a ranger. And let us not forget that the Mythical penalizes you for being at a distance. It does more damage the closer you are to the mob.Coverage = Broken.Live with it.

[Lohkei]

If your in VP trying to find the sweet spot and use both types of CA's with little running around forget coverage. Coverage never comes up in the casting order cause the mobs are so freaking huge and finding the correct distance for coverage to work, takes more time then going to the next clickable CA. The distance requirement could be removed and that would be fine or have its min distance set by the bow equiped. Its kinda unfair to make it a lvl 80 CA that has so many conditions to make it work. Just as bad as repeating arrow, but oh well one battle at a time.

[Corwinus]

Anekuh wrote:

Vinasaar@Nagafen wrote:

Coverage is just used to get a huge hit, not to up your dps, I think. It always works for me, but it needs alot of range.and uh, threads don't have IQ's so .. you fail.

LOL.

Glad you figured out how it works.

Why have a CA that lowers your dps just to have a big hit? That makes zero sense and makes the CA worthless.

Your response just acknowledge the IQ failure.

Ane, Vin is not necessarily that wrong even if the IQ remark is out of topic. I use coverage usually to score a big hit to help finish a raid mob at 2% or so. with some crit buffs, the right amount of Str, the choker and a chain like Focus Aim+spy+stealth fire+coverage+sniper bingo 47k hit (no boast here) that helps.

Aside from that what needs to be looked at is the discrepancy between the way coverage works (damage of next stealth attack +25.6% (M1) over 10m) and  the way our mythical bow works (damage of bow +10% under 25m and +20% under 5m), So you basically have to be over 10m and below 25 m to have the best effect atm, that is not quite easy to figure out in the middle of a fight. The best would be for SOE to remove that 10m restriction, Coverage is already difficult enough to optimize without it.

 Cor

[Barq Bandit]

I enjoy using Coverage to knock off a huge chunk of HP off a mob via my Sniper Arrow CA.During a fight, I go into stealth using any means available at the time while I see that I'm pretty far from the mob and there are no other attackable mobs in my area.  I then use a macro that lauches my Stealth Fire attack and cues up Coverage, which either activates immediately afterwards or doesn't.  Either way, I'm not out of any DPS.  Just fighting as normal.  If it goes off, and it always does unless I don't spot a nearby mob, I hit Sniper Arrow and BOOM!  Lots of damage.  I get a real kick out of it.While I'm waiting for Sniper Arrow to become available again, I use Coverage to boost the damage of my other, lesser stealth attacks.  As a Ranger, I'm going into stealth pretty often anyhow, and Coverage is instantaneous.  Don't really understand how it's detracting from the damage I'm doing.  It only seems to increase it.  It's not like I stop fighting while I'm positioning myself to use it, right?

[Lohkei]

Yeah sniper arrow has a 15 min reuse, 10 with AA. All the other scouts and mages have a 5 min reuse on there big hitters. Just another case to be made of the man holding us down...lol

[feldon30]

The argument that Coverage is just a "bonus" is nonsense when compared to all the similar attacks of other classes like Assassin, Wizard, etc. Hell, Sniper Arrow with its 2.5 second cast is nonsense when compared to Assassinate and Ice Comet which are practically instant cast.