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Unread 05-20-2008, 10:59 AM   #1
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Since I am level 45 I'll use the spell names from this level range.

 I have been casting Tyranical Mind on myself and following up with the DOT Anguish and DD muddled thinking then  Muddled Thinking again.   Tyranical mind should have proced a total of three times, however it does not.   Since I use profit with the remaining procs displayed I was able to see that the the DOT Anguish is causing two ticks to be counted but only procing damage for 1, as seen in ACT and from the numbers coming off the mob.

Has anyone else seen this either at this level or with the higher/Lower level versions.

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Unread 05-20-2008, 11:04 AM   #2
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The reason that the DoT procs 2 hits is because it first hits as a DD and the first tick of the DoT at the same time.
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Unread 05-20-2008, 11:28 AM   #3
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I don't believe that to be the case, a DOT does not resolve the initial hit then the first tick straight away it waits for the timer.  So if Anguish hits at n seconds this is when the tryrannical mind procs.   The next tick is at n+6 this does not proc Tryannical Mind since it is not a successful spell attack.

I just retested, Anguish is  using two ticks and proccing 1 damage.   This does not occur with the encounter DOT Discomforting Gaze.

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Unread 05-20-2008, 12:37 PM   #4
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good to know .. might explain some things SMILEY
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Unread 05-20-2008, 01:52 PM   #5
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Um... TM should only proc when a damaging spell LANDS, not per tick. Now are you saying you cast it twice and it didn't proc the second time because the spell was still active? Or because it didn't proc off of the following tick? Because if it's the second one, then there is no bug. That's the way the spell functions, however if it is the first one, yes that is a bug.
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Unread 05-20-2008, 04:25 PM   #6
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wajamacallit wrote:

I don't believe that to be the case, a DOT does not resolve the initial hit then the first tick straight away it waits for the timer.  So if Anguish hits at n seconds this is when the tryrannical mind procs.   The next tick is at n+6 this does not proc Tryannical Mind since it is not a successful spell attack.

I just retested, Anguish is  using two ticks and proccing 1 damage.   This does not occur with the encounter DOT Discomforting Gaze.

You are right, I just tested this with Dissecting Gaze and it only procs once (unlike the other DoT).  Could it be the power drain + damage causing the single-target to proc it twice I wonder?  Either way, thinking that this may be a small bug.
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Unread 05-20-2008, 07:22 PM   #7
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I Think my explaition is not clear, let my try another way.

Cast Tyranical Mind (Proc count set to 3 as seen in profit maintained spells window)Cast DD Muddled Thinking.Successfull spell procs Tyranical Mind (Proc count seen as 2 in maintained spells window)Cast DD Muddled Thinking.Successfull spell procs Tyranical Mind (Proc count seen as 1 in maintained spells window)Cast DD Muddled Thinking.Successfull spell procs Tyranical Mind (Spell cleared from window)

Checking ACT after the fight and see 3 damages for Tyranical Mind.

Cast Tyranical Mind (Proc count set to 3 as seen in profit maintained spells window)Cast DOT AnguishSuccessfull spell procs Tyranical Mind (Proc count seen as 1 in maintained spells window)Cast DD Muddled Thinking.Successfull spell procs Tyranical Mind (Spell cleared from window)DOT Anguish Ticks.

Checking ACT after the fight and see 2 damages for Tyranical Mind.

(Proc count seen as 2 in Profit Maintained Spells window)

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Unread 05-22-2008, 10:48 PM   #8
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^^ I have tryed this and Im seeing the same thing as well Anguish is using up 2 procs on Tyranical mind and only doing 1 tick of damage.
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Unread 05-24-2008, 01:46 AM   #9
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eeeewwww.... so it's using 2 but only one is doing damage... that's horrible and needs to be changed. I didn't even notice. Thank you for pointing this out. Now everyone go and /bug it 10 million times so they fix it.... maybe =p
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Unread 05-26-2008, 12:43 PM   #10
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Spell attacks are spell that damage the mob either by hp dmg or by power dmg.Anguish does both at once that's why it triggers 2 times

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Unread 05-26-2008, 09:45 PM   #11
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After numerous test, YES this is a bug that ALWAYS happens. The Anguish line of spells (doesn't matter the level) is causing 2 triggers of the "Mind" lines to trigger, but only doing damage for 1 of the 2 triggers. AKA this happens.I cast Tyrannical MindI now have 3 triggersI cast Brain ShockI do damage & 1 shot of TMind triggers for damageI am now down to 1 Trigger on TMindThus 1 trigger is vanishingHere's some direct log file info...(1211847301)[Mon May 26 19:15:01 2008] You hit A stinging spined succulent with a mesmerizing blast of psionic energy!(1211847301)[Mon May 26 19:15:01 2008] A stinging spined succulent is mesmerized!(1211847303)[Mon May 26 19:15:03 2008] YOU try to confound a stinging spined succulent with Obliterated Psyche, but a stinging spined succulent resists.(1211847309)[Mon May 26 19:15:09 2008] You concentrate on the Despotic Mind.(1211847309)[Mon May 26 19:15:09 2008] You are suddenly unable to think of anything but Fnar!(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] You concentrate on the torments of Anguish.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] YOUR Despotic Mind critically hits a stinging spined succulent for 1739 mental damage. (Proc # 1)(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] A stinging spined succulent snaps out of it.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] Your action awakens a stinging spined succulent.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] A stinging spined succulent is struck with a holy weapon!(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] YOUR Brainshock critically hits a stinging spined succulent for 1326 mental damage. (Spell # 1)(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] a stinging spined succulent's Needles hits YOU for 77 piercing damage.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] YOUR Brainshock confounds a stinging spined succulent draining 1 111 mental of power.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] a stinging spined succulent tries to pierce YOU with Needles, but YOU resist.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] A stinging spined succulent is filled with Anguish!(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] You concentrate on the torments of Anguish.(1211847311)[Mon May 26 19:15:11 2008] You are filled with Anguish!(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] You prepare to muddle some thoughts.(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] YOUR Hemorrhage critically hits a stinging spined succulent for 1519 mental damage. (Spell # 2)(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] a stinging spined succulent's Needles hits YOU for 77 piercing damage.(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] YOUR Despotic Mind critically hits a stinging spined succulent for 1835 mental damage. (Proc # 2)(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] A stinging spined succulent is struck with a holy weapon!(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] A stinging spined succulent is totally confused!(1211847312)[Mon May 26 19:15:12 2008] You are no longer confused.(1211847313)[Mon May 26 19:15:13 2008] a stinging spined succulent tries to crush YOU, but misses.(1211847313)[Mon May 26 19:15:13 2008] You concentrate on an intense feeling of Melancholy.(1211847313)[Mon May 26 19:15:13 2008] YOUR Asylum hits a stinging spined succulent for 1349 mental damage. (Spell # 3)(1211847313)[Mon May 26 19:15:13 2008] a stinging spined succulent tries to pierce YOU with Needles, but YOU resist.(1211847313)[Mon May 26 19:15:13 2008] A stinging spined succulent is consumed by Melancholy!(1211847315)[Mon May 26 19:15:15 2008] a stinging spined succulent hits YOU for 1224 crushing damage.(1211847315)[Mon May 26 19:15:15 2008] A stinging spined succulent is struck with a holy weapon!(1211847316)[Mon May 26 19:15:16 2008] You concentrate on the power of Forced Hesitation.(1211847316)[Mon May 26 19:15:16 2008] A stinging spined succulent is mesmerized!Where's the 3rd proc? There is none. At this point Tyrannical Mind was no longer up. The 3rd trigger never went off and vanished do to the Brainshock being cast earlier.This is a confirmed bug. I have reported it, I suggest you do the same.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 06:54 AM   #12
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Should we be posting this in the  : in testing and feedback : section?
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Unread 05-27-2008, 10:54 AM   #13
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Akhmal wrote:
Should we be posting this in the  : in testing and feedback : section?
It's on Live.  We should be /bug in game and having the thread here.. though a thread in the Spells part of the board might get seen better.  Fnar's data might be the best for that.
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Unread 05-27-2008, 11:32 AM   #14
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ok then a /bug with a link in to this tread ;P
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Unread 05-28-2008, 03:44 AM   #15
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Here, let me type in larger lettering so you can see it better....And I quote from my last post..."This is a confirmed bug. I have reported it, I suggest you do the same."=p
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Unread 05-29-2008, 07:24 PM   #16
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Defo a bug. dueled with a friend quick to check it.

00:09:31 You concentrate on the Despotic Mind.00:09:31 YOUR Vampiric Requiem hits YOURSELF for 554 focus damage.00:09:31 You are suddenly unable to think of anything but Sanji!00:09:33 The emerald-like glow fades from Nojiko.00:09:33 You are not in a raid.00:09:33 You say, "casting Tashiana on Mob -3k resis for 13secs"00:09:34 YOUR Malefic Fury critically hits Nojiko for 98 mental damage.00:09:34 You concentrate on the torments of Anguish.00:09:34 YOU try to confound Nojiko with Malefic Fury, but Nojiko resists.00:09:34 YOUR Despotic Mind critically hits Nojiko for 938 mental damage. <- 1 trigger00:09:34 Nojiko is struck with a holy weapon!00:09:34 YOUR Vampiric Requiem hits YOURSELF for 554 focus damage.00:09:34 YOUR Brainshock confounds Nojiko draining 43 points of power. 00:09:34 YOUR Brainshock critically hits Nojiko for 470 mental damage.00:09:34 Nojiko is filled with Anguish!00:09:34 You concentrate on the torments of Anguish.00:09:34 You are filled with Anguish!00:09:36 You prepare to muddle some thoughts.00:09:36 YOUR Hemorrhage hits Nojiko for 449 mental damage.00:09:36 YOU try to confound Nojiko with Malefic Fury, but Nojiko resists.00:09:36 YOUR Despotic Mind critically hits Nojiko for 781 mental damage. <- 2 trigger00:09:36 Nojiko is struck with a holy weapon!00:09:36 YOUR Vampiric Requiem hits YOURSELF for 554 focus damage.00:09:36 Nojiko is totally confused!00:09:36 You are no longer confused.00:09:39 You prepare to muddle some thoughts.00:09:39 YOUR Hemorrhage hits Nojiko for 462 mental damage. <- no trigger after that one00:09:39 YOUR Malefic Fury hits Nojiko for 99 mental damage.00:09:39 YOUR Vampiric Requiem hits YOURSELF for 554 focus damage.00:09:39 Nojiko is totally confused!00:09:41 YOUR Brainshock critically hits Nojiko for 193 mental damage.00:09:41 YOUR Brainshock confounds Nojiko draining 43 points of power.00:09:45 aNPC 29045 Firda:Firda/a says, "Only traitors to the Overlord would pass up a bargain like this.  You're not a traitor are you?"00:09:47 YOUR Brainshock critically hits Nojiko for 183 mental damage.00:09:47 YOUR Brainshock confounds Nojiko draining 43 points of power.00:09:47 You have 5 seconds to return to the duel area.00:09:48 You have 4 seconds to return to the duel area.=> Brainshock consumes 2 triggers but does only 1 time dmg.bug report it

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Unread 05-30-2008, 01:33 PM   #17
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Aye, it's an easily repestable bug, I've actually changed up my spell cycles do to this bug. It needs to be changed, and quickly.

You also might want to change the title to something like "KNOWN BUG WITH ANGUISH LINE - NEEDS FIX ASAP!" hehe.

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yeah this bug is quite annoying
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Unread 06-26-2008, 11:39 AM   #19
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This bug will be fixed in GU47.

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