8800 Series Stuttering / Crashing problem. Information Sharing thread.

[Deathma]

This link took care of the yellow i was seeing after GU 44 (if you are using DX9)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&DisplayLang=en

This is one for DX10

http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-U.../DirectX10.aspx

[Zeldane]

On my 7950, I had stuttering issues.. changed 'Texture Resolutions' from Maximum,Maximum,Maximum to High,High,High, and it ran beautifully(no stuttering at all, just lag once in a while which is normal and I prefered it over stuttering!)

My brother has a 6800, he had stuttering issues on High,High,High(texture resolutions) which for my 7950 it didn't. So he put his texture resolutions to Medium,Medium,Medium. It ran beautifully. With no stuttering.

If you have a video card that is low (under 6800) it should run good if you put all texture resolutions on Low,Low,Low.

For the 8800, It would still be best to have texture resolutions set at High,High,High. Only if you have a CPU,cooling, and the amps that supports that video card I would say put it at maximum.

Now I have a 8800 with absolutly no stuttering or hitching.

It seems that the 'texture resolutions' make up the entire game.

[IronHydra]

Here is a better example of what is happening...  Not even in game... [Removed for Content].... take into mind that the bright light is the flash from my camera

[skidmark]

I reinstalled Windows XP Pro SP2. Had the latest DirectX 9.0c the WHQL GeForce drivers, set all the anti-aliasing settings in the GeForce control panel and had problems like you had IronHydra. Turned off the Anti-aliasing and put Bloom back on and it went away. The game runs very well right now, still get occasional stutters though.

[Vayriah]

Alot of folks having problems here including myself so it seems. well here's my current setupHardware Specification:Thermaltake Circle RH-F030-2SW Silver - Full TowerOCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS 80 Plus CertECS KN3 SLI2 v1.0 - nForce 590 SLIAMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHzCooler Master GeminII RR-CCH-ANU2-GP Heat Sink /w 2x Silverstone FM121 120mm Fans 110cfmCorsair XMS2 Twin2X2048-6400c4 ( 2GB 2 x 1gb @ 4-4-4-12-2T 2.1v )MSI NX8800GT 512M OC - 512MB GDDR3( Core: 660MHz , Mem: 1900MHz , factory OC ) x2 SLI modeSeagate ST3160811AS 160gb Sata - OSWestern Digital WD5000AACS-00ZUB0 500gb Sata - StorageSeagate ST380011A 80gb Pata - StorageWestern Digital WD600BB-75CAA0 60gb Pata - Primary PageFile 30gb / Linux swap 30gb onlyLiteOn Dvd-RWOS & System Software:Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3, v.3311 (build 2600)Linux - Slackware 12.0 kernel 2.6.23-Grsec customTweaked by Tweakforce.com  - XG Forceware 174.70DirectX 9.22.1284.0 SDK - March 2008Had some Real trouble earlier today (apr 15) during a PR Raid was fine but Things stuttering majorly and was forced on the fly to changer settings alotWhat worked for a short ammount of time was Setting AFR 2, most of my settings are stock except for turning off Vertical syn and tripple buffering,keeping settings to application control, Display mode to Single GPU as well. and while in a low graphics mode it speed up to 24fps ( horrible =( ) from 3fpswhile in battle in PR, it helped some but not quite enough eventually was forced on the fly to disable sli by going single gpu ect.half asleep while typing all this, hoing to get more indepth things out tomarrow.

[Autenil]

If you're having 8800 stuttering issues, check out the test update notes.  We just pushed some code that has an option to cache vertex buffers that has reduced the stuttering in our trials.  If you don't mind, grab the test client and check it out.  Let us know what you see!

[Nazgul]

Autenil wrote:

If you're having 8800 stuttering issues, check out the test update notes.  We just pushed some code that has an option to cache vertex buffers that has reduced the stuttering in our trials.  If you don't mind, grab the test client and check it out.  Let us know what you see!

Gnobrin

Pinata-Gnome Joined: Jul 2, 2007 Messages: 1426 Location: Ak'Anon Online

GAMEPLAY

• Fixed a memory issue associated with some particle effects, especially in Veeshan's Peak.
• Added a new option, "Reuse vertex buffers", this may help alleviate some of the stutter or stall issues seen on certain video cards. When set, the graphics engine will cache and reuse vertex buffers.
• Fixed an issue where the Overking would sometimes not drop an item from his common item table.
• During the Venril Sathir fight, there is more time between the casting of Toxic Infusion and Fatalisis, and the casting time of Toxic Infusion can no longer be modified.
• The Mistresses of Hate will no longer part with their black hearts so easily.
• The rhino calves should once again be able to be delivered to the distant herd in the fury epic.

What do 'Vertex Buffers' do, Autenil?

[Autenil]

Nazgul wrote:

What do 'Vertex Buffers' do, Autenil?

Vertex buffers are, simply put, lists of triangles which make up everything in the game (UI, NPCs, your character, armor, etc).  The game maintains hundreds (if not thousands) of vertex buffers while you're playing.The 8800 stutter issue seems to be caused by telling DirectX/nVidia's drivers that we're done with a vertex buffer (or several).  This change basically allows us to hold onto vertex buffers when an object is done using them and reuse them for something else later.  We rarely tell DirectX that we're done with them, and this seems to help out on graphics cards that have problems with stuttering, including the 8800.

[Einadin]

Where is this option located?  I can't find it anyhwere.

[ClawHammr]

Einadin@Oasis wrote:

Where is this option located?  I can't find it anyhwere.

Good question, but I think its only on Test Server for now ?

[Tyndaleon]

Autenil wrote:

The 8800 stutter issue seems to be caused by telling DirectX/nVidia's drivers that we're done with a vertex buffer (or several). 

Aut, as you had noted before that you discovered this issue applying to more than just EQ2 with the 8000 series, did Nvidia ever finally get back with you guys and acknowledge the issue and/or indicate they're working on it in future driver releases?

[Tyndaleon]

ClawHammr wrote:

Einadin@Oasis wrote:

Where is this option located?  I can't find it anyhwere.

Good question, but I think its only on Test Server for now ?

That's correct, but I imagine it'll probably be pushed live today too if it follows suit with most hotfixes like that.

[Sydares]

ClawHammr wrote:

Einadin@Oasis wrote:

Where is this option located?  I can't find it anyhwere.

Good question, but I think its only on Test Server for now ?

Even on test, with the default UI, I can't locate this option either.

[Koltur]

/r_reuse_vertex_buffers 1 , seems to do the trick. , And it's alreay apparently a function on Live servers as well.

[Geothe]

I'm curious (and this thread is probably the best place to ask i guess):I'm planning on upgrading my Vid card with part of the $600 the gov't is nicely sending to taxpayers next month.

There is now the newer core chip out on the 8800 series too (g92s).Are these stuttering problems occuring on cards with the different core as well?  On just on the original core-types?

[Pitt Hammerfi]

Will any of these new fixes, help shader performance ? i notice a pretty big hit when shaders are on in crowded areas, so i turn them off in town and in raids.

 Would be nice to be able to raid with them on

[Sydares]

Geothe wrote:

I'm curious (and this thread is probably the best place to ask i guess):I'm planning on upgrading my Vid card with part of the $600 the gov't is nicely sending to taxpayers next month.

There is now the newer core chip out on the 8800 series too (g92s).Are these stuttering problems occuring on cards with the different core as well?  On just on the original core-types?

At least with my 8800, I'm experiencing very poor performance with EQ2 over what I would have expected for a dated game such as EQ2. 20 FPS on Extreme while standing alone on the Teren's Grasp docks, and 20-35 FPS on raids with everything turned all the way down.At this time, I don't really recommend it.

[IronHydra]

Ya im prolly gonna throw out another $150 for and HD 3870 heard they run better with EQ2 and less driver errors

[Falc410]

Update is already on Live Server. Giving it a test now. Great news tho! Hopefully it will help.

[Autenil]

Koltur wrote:

/r_reuse_vertex_buffers 1 , seems to do the trick. , And it's alreay apparently a function on Live servers as well.

This is the command to turn it on, and yes, it did go to live servers this morning.I'll look into why it's not showing up in the options window.You can also add it to your eq2.ini so that you don't have to do it every time you start up.

[Einadin]

It's appearing on the Live menu.  Just not the test atm.

[VW_Factor]

I'll tell ya what.  This fix works great for me.  Its smooth as all be now.  Thank you for finally getting this fixed.

[Alarick0]

This has fixed the stuttering for me as well.Thank you devs Just need to get the lackluster performance of EQ2 on the 8800's looked at, and i'll be a mostly happy camper.20ish FPS with these cards is just not right.P.S, i'll buy you guys lunch if you get the guys in charge of the Inquisitor Mythical to fix it

[ormirsteld]

just patched the game and it stil don't show in the menu

now you guys ad it please ad support for 2x and 4x cores to, and sli would be nice to

[Avanya]

omg thank you!  I've been having this problem and it was very annoying!  I logged in today, read the update notes, did as instructed and woohoo, no more stuttering

BTW, I had no problem finding it under options.

/cheer Sony!

[Nazgul]

Autenil wrote:

Koltur wrote:

/r_reuse_vertex_buffers 1 , seems to do the trick. , And it's alreay apparently a function on Live servers as well.

This is the command to turn it on, and yes, it did go to live servers this morning.I'll look into why it's not showing up in the options window.You can also add it to your eq2.ini so that you don't have to do it every time you start up.

Acid test on this command - Flying on the bird from DL to TG - Massive improvement.Acid, ACID test - Flying on the bird from DL to TG in WINDOWED mode - Omg, massive improvement./tips hat.

[Syndic]

Would this improve things for other people at all, those not having the stuttering problem?

[ormirsteld]

Arani@Crushbone wrote:

omg thank you!  I've been having this problem and it was very annoying!  I logged in today, read the update notes, did as instructed and woohoo, no more stuttering " width="15" height="15" />

BTW, I had no problem finding it under options.

/cheer Sony!

after another patch this morning it shows now under performence

but i have added the line in the ini file so its always on

[Mantua1]

I have a Gforce 8600 512 megs on 2 computers I play Everquest on and I am happy to say - there be no more stuttering I have seen ((not to be confused with lag in the usual zones. ie..areas of freeport and qeynos etc..etc..)) When I get out to the uncrowded areas its smooth gameplay. Same in instances.

[Happytree]

Yes, nice fix! Worked for me as well. Thanks again!!