Bruiser + Inquisitor?

Gehemnishthex · 04-15-2008, 05:13 PM

So i some how managed to convince my girlfriend to play EQ2 (she's not a gamer at all. the closest she's come is zoo tychoon or watching me play halflife 2 which she enjoys because it's like watching a movie where she gets to laugh at me dieing), she made a sarnak bruiser on my account and loved it, so I got her her own account.I'd been thinking of making an inquisitor for a while, and I plan to play a character along side hers, so I figured I'd make a sarnak Inquisitor. from what I'm reading it sounds like it could work out peachy. Any advice or thoughts about Inquisitor/bruiser combo? anything I should watch out for? I'm just beginning reading up on the Inq aa's and such, and noting the love for stamina+battlecleric, but I'm not really sure what else would be good (particularly what would be good for this combo).Any thoughts would be awesome, sorry for such a vague post! SMILEY

Groborthir · 04-15-2008, 05:44 PM

As a general rule, I suppose you can say the inquisitor makes for an awesome supplement to any melee class, and I can't imagine it'd be any different with a bruiser. It does depend on what you both want to do, though. If you just want to do quests, anything from normal quests to heroic quests (the ones that do not require a full group), you're going to plow right through them, of course. If you're going to do group instances, a bruiser tanking and inquisitor healing actually works surprisingly well, their avoidance coupled with your reactive heals mostly mean all you have to worry about as inquisitor is a little spot healing every now and then. Sadly, this doesn't seem to work that well in the higher levels where mobs hit harder and more often, meaning you kind of need your tank to wear plate for mitigation. But again, in general, bruiser and inquisitor make for a really nice pair!Personally, I prefer teaming with berserkers. They have awesome tanking abilities, in every aspect - mitigation, avoidance if you get Shield Ally from the AGI line, aggro management - can dish out some good damage, and they won't suffer from not being able to tank heroic^^^ mobs at the higher levels.

graxnip · 04-15-2008, 05:52 PM

i would go int line - you're going to need the fast casting to keep up with the spike damage the bruiser is going to take.

Vorham · 04-15-2008, 07:05 PM

works fine just dont try to rely on reactives and adjust the threshold at which you start throwing out your single target heals...youll get a feel for it. havent had a problem healing brawlers with this toon, and i used to be one and did lotsa crazy [I cannot control my vocabulary] with a cleric healer including named and epicx2 mob killing as tank... even got kudos from em such as "love groupin with ya yer a fun tank"... if you want to be lazy then no, cleric bad... grab a warder or something

edit: but honestly the increased attention to healing is going to be worth the dps buffs, haste, ability to kill, and same city access. it aint that hard, just no TV watching while your brawler buddy is tanking Named X heh...plus remember Bruisers have a big self heal on a 1.5 min recast... helps a lot. Id go Inq over Defiler anyday for a duo

Calain80 · 04-15-2008, 07:15 PM

The 2 most important spells with a tanking Brawler are the Forced ... line and the CA in the STR-line with this two abilities you can reduce the attack skills of any mob so much, that a Brawler will almost always be missed. The few hits she takes you can easily heal using your direct heals. Just don't rely on your reactives, as due to the few hits they won't trigger much if at all.

Gehemnishthex · 04-16-2008, 11:15 AM

So we started and have been playing hot seat with the one computer while we get the game working on the vistas computer. She passed me up (of course) and i'm catching up, i'm at 8 now and killing is (expectedly) slow. So, with regard to AA and my racial choice at 10 I figured I'd ask! Should i get the sarnak dragon breath, or the +5 crushing +1% crit racial. and for my aa should i start with yalp then build toward the stamina line for the melee crit factory?having just the one smite-ey attack and the dot is pretty slow in going and i figure i need a minor dps boost to last me till i can bag some aa

graxnip · 04-16-2008, 12:37 PM

i would go for getting as many attacks as you can - so im guessing dragons breath. - I would put 1 point into yaulp, then switch to the eof AA line and start converting your dmg spells to CA'sonce you get your 20 points into them + the end ability, soloing goes much faster..inquisitor class is highly dependent on level and AA - the more you have of each - the better it gets.above poster makes a valid point - the forced line + skull crack (str line) will reduce an opponents atk skills to that of a toddler armed with a twig. it will definatley make your duo easier.

Calain80 · 04-16-2008, 12:45 PM

I would got for the Breath. It is slow casing, but at least it is a small open AE that can help you early on. For AA I would go with Yaulp and then Battle Cleric then STA. There are several threads here with AA suggestions, but no stickied one so far. Just look around on the first 2 to 3 pages and you will find several answers that will even go into deeper detail.

Gehemnishthex · 04-16-2008, 03:09 PM

Thank you for all the info. I'm really excited about the inquisitor and I almost never play alts in mmo's. Thanks again! =D

Jehannum · 04-16-2008, 04:24 PM

Just to touch on the leather vs plate thing...

On my Inquisitor, I healed once for a group with a guard, bruiser and monk. The bruiser was decked, the monk was medium-equipped and so was the guardian. The guard was also 2 levels lower than the bruiser and I think the monk was a level or two higher (but completely specced for dps rather than tanking), the bruiser was specced for solo farming (and had excellent gear) and I don't know what the guard's spec was.

What I do know is that the easiest of the three to heal was the bruiser. By far.

My bottom line? Yes, given equal levels and gear and all the rest, a guard will tend to be an easier tank to heal as a cleric. But for general day-in, day-out play, it really doesn't matter if it's what you enjoy playing. You'll find a way to make it work, if you work at finding a way.

Side note - I also tend to get stoked about my inquisitor alt. He's a LOT of fun.

04-15-2008, 05:52 PM	#3
graxnip Mercenary Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 302	i would go int line - you're going to need the fast casting to keep up with the spike damage the bruiser is going to take. __________________ Grahsa Grumblebelly - 80 Inquisitor Sahija - 80 Illusionist Graxnip Grumblebelly - 32 zerker Clan Grumblebelly :: Runnyeye

04-16-2008, 12:37 PM	#7
graxnip Mercenary Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 302	i would go for getting as many attacks as you can - so im guessing dragons breath. - I would put 1 point into yaulp, then switch to the eof AA line and start converting your dmg spells to CA'sonce you get your 20 points into them + the end ability, soloing goes much faster..inquisitor class is highly dependent on level and AA - the more you have of each - the better it gets.above poster makes a valid point - the forced line + skull crack (str line) will reduce an opponents atk skills to that of a toddler armed with a twig. it will definatley make your duo easier. __________________ Grahsa Grumblebelly - 80 Inquisitor Sahija - 80 Illusionist Graxnip Grumblebelly - 32 zerker Clan Grumblebelly :: Runnyeye

04-15-2008, 05:13 PM	#1
Gehemnishthex Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 58	So i some how managed to convince my girlfriend to play EQ2 (she's not a gamer at all. the closest she's come is zoo tychoon or watching me play halflife 2 which she enjoys because it's like watching a movie where she gets to laugh at me dieing), she made a sarnak bruiser on my account and loved it, so I got her her own account.I'd been thinking of making an inquisitor for a while, and I plan to play a character along side hers, so I figured I'd make a sarnak Inquisitor. from what I'm reading it sounds like it could work out peachy. Any advice or thoughts about Inquisitor/bruiser combo? anything I should watch out for? I'm just beginning reading up on the Inq aa's and such, and noting the love for stamina+battlecleric, but I'm not really sure what else would be good (particularly what would be good for this combo).Any thoughts would be awesome, sorry for such a vague post!

04-15-2008, 05:44 PM	#2
Groborthir Server: Nagafen Guild: Norrath Pirates Rank: Pirate Master Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 17	As a general rule, I suppose you can say the inquisitor makes for an awesome supplement to any melee class, and I can't imagine it'd be any different with a bruiser. It does depend on what you both want to do, though. If you just want to do quests, anything from normal quests to heroic quests (the ones that do not require a full group), you're going to plow right through them, of course. If you're going to do group instances, a bruiser tanking and inquisitor healing actually works surprisingly well, their avoidance coupled with your reactive heals mostly mean all you have to worry about as inquisitor is a little spot healing every now and then. Sadly, this doesn't seem to work that well in the higher levels where mobs hit harder and more often, meaning you kind of need your tank to wear plate for mitigation. But again, in general, bruiser and inquisitor make for a really nice pair!Personally, I prefer teaming with berserkers. They have awesome tanking abilities, in every aspect - mitigation, avoidance if you get Shield Ally from the AGI line, aggro management - can dish out some good damage, and they won't suffer from not being able to tank heroic^^^ mobs at the higher levels.

04-15-2008, 07:05 PM	#4
Vorham Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Freeport Posts: 176	works fine just dont try to rely on reactives and adjust the threshold at which you start throwing out your single target heals...youll get a feel for it. havent had a problem healing brawlers with this toon, and i used to be one and did lotsa crazy [I cannot control my vocabulary] with a cleric healer including named and epicx2 mob killing as tank... even got kudos from em such as "love groupin with ya yer a fun tank"... if you want to be lazy then no, cleric bad... grab a warder or something edit: but honestly the increased attention to healing is going to be worth the dps buffs, haste, ability to kill, and same city access. it aint that hard, just no TV watching while your brawler buddy is tanking Named X heh...plus remember Bruisers have a big self heal on a 1.5 min recast... helps a lot. Id go Inq over Defiler anyday for a duo

04-15-2008, 07:15 PM	#5
Calain80 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,309	The 2 most important spells with a tanking Brawler are the Forced ... line and the CA in the STR-line with this two abilities you can reduce the attack skills of any mob so much, that a Brawler will almost always be missed. The few hits she takes you can easily heal using your direct heals. Just don't rely on your reactives, as due to the few hits they won't trigger much if at all.

04-16-2008, 11:15 AM	#6
Gehemnishthex Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 58	So we started and have been playing hot seat with the one computer while we get the game working on the vistas computer. She passed me up (of course) and i'm catching up, i'm at 8 now and killing is (expectedly) slow. So, with regard to AA and my racial choice at 10 I figured I'd ask! Should i get the sarnak dragon breath, or the +5 crushing +1% crit racial. and for my aa should i start with yalp then build toward the stamina line for the melee crit factory?having just the one smite-ey attack and the dot is pretty slow in going and i figure i need a minor dps boost to last me till i can bag some aa

04-16-2008, 12:45 PM	#8
Calain80 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,309	I would got for the Breath. It is slow casing, but at least it is a small open AE that can help you early on. For AA I would go with Yaulp and then Battle Cleric then STA. There are several threads here with AA suggestions, but no stickied one so far. Just look around on the first 2 to 3 pages and you will find several answers that will even go into deeper detail.

04-16-2008, 03:09 PM	#9
Gehemnishthex Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 58	Thank you for all the info. I'm really excited about the inquisitor and I almost never play alts in mmo's. Thanks again! =D

04-16-2008, 04:24 PM	#10
Jehannum Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 651	Just to touch on the leather vs plate thing... On my Inquisitor, I healed once for a group with a guard, bruiser and monk. The bruiser was decked, the monk was medium-equipped and so was the guardian. The guard was also 2 levels lower than the bruiser and I think the monk was a level or two higher (but completely specced for dps rather than tanking), the bruiser was specced for solo farming (and had excellent gear) and I don't know what the guard's spec was. What I do know is that the easiest of the three to heal was the bruiser. By far. My bottom line? Yes, given equal levels and gear and all the rest, a guard will tend to be an easier tank to heal as a cleric. But for general day-in, day-out play, it really doesn't matter if it's what you enjoy playing. You'll find a way to make it work, if you work at finding a way. Side note - I also tend to get stoked about my inquisitor alt. He's a LOT of fun.