Scout wearable Gi?

[yabo75]

Just wondering if anyone knows of a scout wearable Gi. I know about the fabled t8 one, but, any others?

[Wildmage]

yabo75 wrote:

Just wondering if anyone knows of a scout wearable Gi. I know about the fabled t8 one, but, any others?

hear that? I hear the sound of several hundred angry brawlers stretching their bodies in preparation of descending upon you and beating the everliving pixels out of you.  RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

[Aurumn]

Whassat? *perks up ears*

Kung-fu melee "Wu Tang vs Swash-e" at sundown? Woot! I'm betting on the Arasai with the rhino.

*grabs some popcorn and finds a nice high rock to sit on*

**I don't know personally about swashy-wearable gis, but I'm a sucker for a good brawl**

[yabo75]

pfft... I'll decapitate them =p will that net me a gi?

[Cusashorn]

Scouts, Preists, and Fighters only get three Gis.

Tunic of Echoes from COA, Dustdevil Jerkin and Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail from Maidens are all you get, and hopefully ever will get.

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality by making all three items Monk/Bruiser only, and then adding in an NPC who will trade a new chest item with the exact same stats but a different, non-gi appearance to everyone else. 

Furthermore, what they need to do is develop a unique one-item-full-body appearance for all classes. It's just inappropriate for other classes to show so much skin when the brawlers have already cemented that it's thier look. We can afford to look half-naked because the more stuff we wear, the harder it is to move and dodge. It's not our fault that the developers chose to give us the full appearance with just one item. Even casters still show thier gloves and boots underneat the robe.

[firexcracker]

Cusashorn wrote:

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality

So, brawlers are allowed to have a unique and interesting look, but nobody else is?  Oh, okay then.  /rolleyes

[Josgar]

Cusashorn wrote:

Scouts, Preists, and Fighters only get three Gis.

Tunic of Echoes from COA, Dustdevil Jerkin and Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail from Maidens are all you get, and hopefully ever will get.

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality by making all three items Monk/Bruiser only, and then adding in an NPC who will trade a new chest item with the exact same stats but a different, non-gi appearance to everyone else. 

Furthermore, what they need to do is develop a unique one-item-full-body appearance for all classes. It's just inappropriate for other classes to show so much skin when the brawlers have already cemented that it's thier look. We can afford to look half-naked because the more stuff we wear, the harder it is to move and dodge. It's not our fault that the developers chose to give us the full appearance with just one item. Even casters still show thier gloves and boots underneat the robe.

Until they do develop a unique armor set for each type of  class... brawlers should not be the only group of people to have their own type of armor. Sure ya'll are suppose to have them, but it really is not fair to other classes who all share the same copy pasted armor models.

[ke'la]

firexcracker wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality

So, brawlers are allowed to have a unique and interesting look, but nobody else is?  Oh, okay then.  /rolleyes

I like how you sniped out this VERY importaint part (Furthermore, what they need to do is develop a unique one-item-full-body appearance for all classes.) to get your /rolleyes in. He does NOT want to be the only class with Unique armor, what he wants is for EVERY class to have Unique armor and for Brawler's armor that has been Brawler only from day one, to stay brawler only. Whats wrong with that? I personally would love to have armor that Screams Swashbuckler, right now only the mage bloomers/poofy chest pieces come close. I am sorry to break it to you but Gi's Scream Monk/Brusier not Priest or Fighter, they should have thier OWN look. Hopefully, with the Skeletal revamp, unque armor for every class will be the first thing on the ajenda for the Art Dept. and we can give all the Gi's back to the Brawlers where they belong.

[yabo75]

Ok, you can have your gi. Can I have my Assassin hood back from the other scouts? I mean... it was only a labs drop like 2 years ago. Not like our "look" mattered, either. But thank you for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. -edit: spelling is good for you

[Cusashorn]

yabo75 wrote:

Ok, you can have your gi. Can I have my Assassin hood back from the other scouts? I mean... it was only a labs drop like 2 years ago. Not like our "look" mattered, either. But thank you for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. -edit: spelling is good for you

I hear you there. the Monk helmet rice hat is now used by half a dozen helmets out there that anyone can use.

[Wildmage]

Cusashorn wrote:

yabo75 wrote:

Ok, you can have your gi. Can I have my Assassin hood back from the other scouts? I mean... it was only a labs drop like 2 years ago. Not like our "look" mattered, either. But thank you for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. -edit: spelling is good for you

I hear you there. the Monk helmet rice hat is now used by half a dozen helmets out there that anyone can use.

I think I've been very lucky not to see some random soga using human in a white robe with a katana the monk hat on...

[Chay]

Josgar@Unrest wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Scouts, Preists, and Fighters only get three Gis.

Tunic of Echoes from COA, Dustdevil Jerkin and Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail from Maidens are all you get, and hopefully ever will get.

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality by making all three items Monk/Bruiser only, and then adding in an NPC who will trade a new chest item with the exact same stats but a different, non-gi appearance to everyone else. 

Furthermore, what they need to do is develop a unique one-item-full-body appearance for all classes. It's just inappropriate for other classes to show so much skin when the brawlers have already cemented that it's thier look. We can afford to look half-naked because the more stuff we wear, the harder it is to move and dodge. It's not our fault that the developers chose to give us the full appearance with just one item. Even casters still show thier gloves and boots underneat the robe.

Until they do develop a unique armor set for each type of  class... brawlers should not be the only group of people to have their own type of armor. Sure ya'll are suppose to have them, but it really is not fair to other classes who all share the same copy pasted armor models.

Uniqueness must start somewhere. Let it be with the Brawlers. Frankly as much as I'd like to have a similar look on my druids I don't begrudge the brawlers for having their Gis.  Worrying about what's fair when it comes to appearance is far less of a concern to me. I'd love the classes to have a archetype look, but i'm not going to say "Let's all wear Gis".  As soon as we do the game loses even more uniqueness. It's the BIG PICTURE.

[Cusashorn]

Chayna wrote:

Josgar@Unrest wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Scouts, Preists, and Fighters only get three Gis.

Tunic of Echoes from COA, Dustdevil Jerkin and Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail from Maidens are all you get, and hopefully ever will get.

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality by making all three items Monk/Bruiser only, and then adding in an NPC who will trade a new chest item with the exact same stats but a different, non-gi appearance to everyone else. 

Furthermore, what they need to do is develop a unique one-item-full-body appearance for all classes. It's just inappropriate for other classes to show so much skin when the brawlers have already cemented that it's thier look. We can afford to look half-naked because the more stuff we wear, the harder it is to move and dodge. It's not our fault that the developers chose to give us the full appearance with just one item. Even casters still show thier gloves and boots underneat the robe.

Until they do develop a unique armor set for each type of  class... brawlers should not be the only group of people to have their own type of armor. Sure ya'll are suppose to have them, but it really is not fair to other classes who all share the same copy pasted armor models.

Uniqueness must start somewhere. Let it be with the Brawlers. Frankly as much as I'd like to have a similar look on my druids I don't begrudge the brawlers for having their Gis.  Worrying about what's fair when it comes to appearance is far less of a concern to me. I'd love the classes to have a archetype look, but i'm not going to say "Let's all wear Gis".  As soon as we do the game loses even more uniqueness. It's the BIG PICTURE.

Thanks for seeing it my way.

You know, nobody ever *****ed about how Monks got thier own unique graphic from the other armor types in EQlive... Sure, the armor graphics were set based on the race itself, but the monks still had thier own unique appearance from druids and other leather designs.

[Sayne]

Cusashorn wrote:

yabo75 wrote:

Ok, you can have your gi. Can I have my Assassin hood back from the other scouts? I mean... it was only a labs drop like 2 years ago. Not like our "look" mattered, either. But thank you for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. -edit: spelling is good for you

I hear you there. the Monk helmet rice hat is now used by half a dozen helmets out there that anyone can use.

I feel your pain.  I was really upset with the class-specific hats when wizards didn't get their own hat.  The supposed response was that the "mage" hat was really the wizard hat, but any conjuror or illusionist who didn't decide to customize their hat could still wear it, and many still have them.  Essentially, that pointed hat that's unique to wizards and warlocks isn't unique at all.  I wish they would take the unique looks and keep them unique instead of allowing other classes to get them as they please.  If my templar could wear the SK class helm, I think SKs would be kind of upset.

[Rainmare]

you can have my Paladin class hat. Please, take it.

[Chay]

Rainmare@Oasis wrote:

you can have my Paladin class hat. Please, take it.

Fly! Be free little birdy!

[ke'la]

Wyntre@Kithicor wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

yabo75 wrote:

Ok, you can have your gi. Can I have my Assassin hood back from the other scouts? I mean... it was only a labs drop like 2 years ago. Not like our "look" mattered, either. But thank you for the info. I appreciate you sharing it. -edit: spelling is good for you

I hear you there. the Monk helmet rice hat is now used by half a dozen helmets out there that anyone can use.

I feel your pain.  I was really upset with the class-specific hats when wizards didn't get their own hat.  The supposed response was that the "mage" hat was really the wizard hat, but any conjuror or illusionist who didn't decide to customize their hat could still wear it, and many still have them.  Essentially, that pointed hat that's unique to wizards and warlocks isn't unique at all.  I wish they would take the unique looks and keep them unique instead of allowing other classes to get them as they please.  If my templar could wear the SK class helm, I think SKs would be kind of upset.

What is worst is that alot of the New mage spec'd hats are the Wizzard hat model. Just like there are a ton of the Monk Rice Bowl hat model out thier(though I hate that model so I never show it). Class hats models should ONLY be usable by the class that got them from Hoo'lah.

I just wish the Skeletal revamp would get here so that every class can have unque armor.

[xandez]

firexcracker wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

I wish that the developers would give us back our individuality

So, brawlers are allowed to have a unique and interesting look, but nobody else is?  Oh, okay then.  /rolleyes

it will not be unique and interesting if anyone and their mother can use em? i wish i could have worn the KunzarJungle faction reward GI with my wood elf ranger, it looked SO COOL! DROOL! But, i prefer that Gi's are for brawlers!++Xan

[Avanya]

I think you all are confusing the reason that non brawlers are wanting to wear gi's.  I don't know about on your server, but if you inspect people wearing these gi's, most of them are wearing them in their appearance slots.  Why?  They don't want to look like brawlers, but they'd like to show a little skin instead of having armor that covers every bit of them up to their chin.  There was a huge thread about this concerning not wanting to look like your grandmother.

Ever notice that after the appearance slots went in, huge numbers of people (especially females) were all sporting the bare arm look?  Let's not refer back to EQ1 since I played that game from the start and druid armor showed a lot of skin, including a plunging neckline.  I don't think anyone wants to take the unique "gi" look from brawlers, but they obvious want a change in the look of their armor or they wouldn't be wearing them.  I see females wearing these everywhere I go.  I wear one myself on my warden and I have a level 76 monk and it doesn't bother me at all.

I don't know this for sure, but I think this was Sony's attempt at giving some other classes the choice to wear something a little more revealing if that's what they wanted.  I think it was sign that they listened to that loooong post.  Perhaps some of you are right and we should have our own look, but that takes time to design.  I think the evidence speaks for itself though when you see just how many people are wearing these.  Many of us don't want the nun look anymore and hopefully this will be taken into consideration the next time armor is designed.

I don't think armor has to look like a gi and still show a little more skin.  Would just take a little imagination.

[Sapphirius]

Personally, I have NO problem with the gi being worn by other classes. My brawlers don't even wear gis. They wear a bruiserish leather combination including the leather boots that look like sandals, or they go bare-foot with the vender-bought woven etched leather and the green fatigue pants from Darklight Woods.

I do, however, have a problem with the hat.

BTW, it's not the assassin hood that other classes can wear. It's the ranger hood, though rangers and assassins once had the same hood before the class hats got changed. The assassin hood has a mask on it. As far as I know, there are 3 hoods wearable by classes other than rangers: one is any chain or plate wearer, one is ranger/assassin only, and the third is limited to 3 or 4 scout classes. The wizard hat... Could someone PLEASE tell my warlock where to find this other than the Vaults dropped hat? I keep hearing that any mage can get this hat, but I'm not finding it anywhere. It used to be that four classes shared this graphic as their class hat from Hoo'Loh. Not anymore. These graphics were changed. Of which, they changed the Vaults dropped hat as well. Once upon a time, this was the graphic for both warlocks and wizards (and conjurors and necromancers) until they changed the hats. Now my warlock gets the freaky-eyed helmet.

I despise the current warlock hat. You can keep it. I'll trade you.

[Avanya]

I would have to agree on the hat.  It looks silly on anyone who is not a brawler frankly.  I'm not sure why the did that.  I would be pretty upset if suddenly everyone could wear the wreath of leaves that my warden wears.

[Iseabeil]

Sapphirius wrote:

The wizard hat... Could someone PLEASE tell my warlock where to find this other than the Vaults dropped hat? I keep hearing that any mage can get this hat, but I'm not finding it anywhere. It used to be that four classes shared this graphic as their class hat from Hoo'Loh. Not anymore. These graphics were changed. Of which, they changed the Vaults dropped hat as well. Once upon a time, this was the graphic for both warlocks and wizards (and conjurors and necromancers) until they changed the hats. Now my warlock gets the freaky-eyed helmet.

I despise the current warlock hat. You can keep it. I'll trade you.

The only one I know of drops from the last named in HoF I belive, cant recall name atm tho.

[Sayne]

Sapphirius wrote:

I do, however, have a problem with the hat.

The wizard hat... Could someone PLEASE tell my warlock where to find this other than the Vaults dropped hat? I keep hearing that any mage can get this hat, but I'm not finding it anywhere. It used to be that four classes shared this graphic as their class hat from Hoo'Loh. Not anymore. These graphics were changed. Of which, they changed the Vaults dropped hat as well. Once upon a time, this was the graphic for both warlocks and wizards (and conjurors and necromancers) until they changed the hats. Now my warlock gets the freaky-eyed helmet.

I despise the current warlock hat. You can keep it. I'll trade you.

So, you despise the fact that other classes can wear the monk hat, but want the wizard hat for your warlock? I personally hate that any mages can wear a wizard hat, and it's upset me since they took the hats from archetype to subclass.  But they won't ever fix it, so oh well.The Grand Dracomancer's Hat drops in Labs off of the guy who drops the hats (can't think of the name but he's the Alzid by the waterfall-looking thing).  It has the wizard class hat look./sigh

[Sapphirius]

Wyntre@Kithicor wrote:

Sapphirius wrote:

I do, however, have a problem with the hat.

The wizard hat... Could someone PLEASE tell my warlock where to find this other than the Vaults dropped hat? I keep hearing that any mage can get this hat, but I'm not finding it anywhere. It used to be that four classes shared this graphic as their class hat from Hoo'Loh. Not anymore. These graphics were changed. Of which, they changed the Vaults dropped hat as well. Once upon a time, this was the graphic for both warlocks and wizards (and conjurors and necromancers) until they changed the hats. Now my warlock gets the freaky-eyed helmet.

I despise the current warlock hat. You can keep it. I'll trade you.

So, you despise the fact that other classes can wear the monk hat, but want the wizard hat for your warlock? " width="15" height="15" /> I personally hate that any mages can wear a wizard hat, and it's upset me since they took the hats from archetype to subclass.  But they won't ever fix it, so oh well.The Grand Dracomancer's Hat drops in Labs off of the guy who drops the hats (can't think of the name but he's the Alzid by the waterfall-looking thing).  It has the wizard class hat look./sigh

Not hypocritical at all. You see, a monk and bruiser are both the same class but different subclasses. They're brawlers. I have no problem with bruisers wearing the monk hat because, at one point in time, the current bruiser hat did not exist. The same goes with warlock and wizard. They are both the same class but different subclasses. They're both sorcerors. At one point, they both had the same hat before SOE changed it to the current warlock hat. I'm not asking to wear a new hat graphic that never belonged to my class. I'm asking to wear an old graphic that warlocks once had as their class hat.

 Please read before alleging hypocrisy. Thank you.

[Sayne]

Sapphirius wrote:

Wyntre@Kithicor wrote:

Sapphirius wrote:

I do, however, have a problem with the hat.

The wizard hat... Could someone PLEASE tell my warlock where to find this other than the Vaults dropped hat? I keep hearing that any mage can get this hat, but I'm not finding it anywhere. It used to be that four classes shared this graphic as their class hat from Hoo'Loh. Not anymore. These graphics were changed. Of which, they changed the Vaults dropped hat as well. Once upon a time, this was the graphic for both warlocks and wizards (and conjurors and necromancers) until they changed the hats. Now my warlock gets the freaky-eyed helmet.

I despise the current warlock hat. You can keep it. I'll trade you.

So, you despise the fact that other classes can wear the monk hat, but want the wizard hat for your warlock? " width="15" height="15"> I personally hate that any mages can wear a wizard hat, and it's upset me since they took the hats from archetype to subclass.  But they won't ever fix it, so oh well.The Grand Dracomancer's Hat drops in Labs off of the guy who drops the hats (can't think of the name but he's the Alzid by the waterfall-looking thing).  It has the wizard class hat look./sigh

Not hypocritical at all. You see, a monk and bruiser are both the same class but different subclasses. They're brawlers. I have no problem with bruisers wearing the monk hat because, at one point in time, the current bruiser hat did not exist. The same goes with warlock and wizard. They are both the same class but different subclasses. They're both sorcerors. At one point, they both had the same hat before SOE changed it to the current warlock hat. I'm not asking to wear a new hat graphic that never belonged to my class. I'm asking to wear an old graphic that warlocks once had as their class hat.

 Please read before alleging hypocrisy. Thank you.

Holy cow don't throw a couch at me, I was mostly teasing if you can't tell.  I wasn't mad at you or anything, that's why I put the little " width="15" height="15"> in there to show I was joking. Joking!!  I do hate that other classes can wear and have the wizard hat but I wasn't directing that upsettedness towards you, I was just teasing about your remarks. Sheesh, everyone takes everything as a personal attack these days.  Whatever happened to positive energy and love thy neighbor and whatnot?

Yes, at one time all brawlers shared a hat graphic, but also at one time the wizard class hat was shared by conjurors, necromancers, wizards, warlocks (I believe also by chanters but not sure, it's been awhile).  I don't think any of those classes other than the wizards should wear the wizard hats.  Yes, at one point they could all wear it but that was a "Temporary fix" to make everyone happy while they updated everyone's hats except those classes, like wizards, who got stuck with a model that people beyond their class already has.  When this happened I posted in the forums, petitioned, and nothing happened.  It was unfair to wizards and other classes in the same boat, and I think all of the hat graphics should have automatically changed.  Which, in the long run, wouldn't have helped anyways since they insist on putting out more class-specific hats for other classes to wear that aren't supposed to have them.

And if I had been totally serious in calling you a hypocrite do y ou think I would have told you exactly where to get the hat you wanted and what mob it even dropped off of?  I was trying to be helpful in aswering what I thought was a serious question.

Please read before alleging negative intent.  Thank you.

[Cusashorn]

Arani@Crushbone wrote:

I think you all are confusing the reason that non brawlers are wanting to wear gi's.  I don't know about on your server, but if you inspect people wearing these gi's, most of them are wearing them in their appearance slots.  Why?  They don't want to look like brawlers, but they'd like to show a little skin instead of having armor that covers every bit of them up to their chin.  There was a huge thread about this concerning not wanting to look like your grandmother.

Ever notice that after the appearance slots went in, huge numbers of people (especially females) were all sporting the bare arm look?  Let's not refer back to EQ1 since I played that game from the start and druid armor showed a lot of skin, including a plunging neckline.  I don't think anyone wants to take the unique "gi" look from brawlers, but they obvious want a change in the look of their armor or they wouldn't be wearing them.  I see females wearing these everywhere I go.  I wear one myself on my warden and I have a level 76 monk and it doesn't bother me at all.

I don't know this for sure, but I think this was Sony's attempt at giving some other classes the choice to wear something a little more revealing if that's what they wanted.  I think it was sign that they listened to that loooong post.  Perhaps some of you are right and we should have our own look, but that takes time to design.  I think the evidence speaks for itself though when you see just how many people are wearing these.  Many of us don't want the nun look anymore and hopefully this will be taken into consideration the next time armor is designed.

I don't think armor has to look like a gi and still show a little more skin.  Would just take a little imagination.

Thats what the male/female formal ensembles are for.

[ke'la]

Cusashorn wrote:

Arani@Crushbone wrote:

I think you all are confusing the reason that non brawlers are wanting to wear gi's.  I don't know about on your server, but if you inspect people wearing these gi's, most of them are wearing them in their appearance slots.  Why?  They don't want to look like brawlers, but they'd like to show a little skin instead of having armor that covers every bit of them up to their chin.  There was a huge thread about this concerning not wanting to look like your grandmother.

Ever notice that after the appearance slots went in, huge numbers of people (especially females) were all sporting the bare arm look?  Let's not refer back to EQ1 since I played that game from the start and druid armor showed a lot of skin, including a plunging neckline.  I don't think anyone wants to take the unique "gi" look from brawlers, but they obvious want a change in the look of their armor or they wouldn't be wearing them.  I see females wearing these everywhere I go.  I wear one myself on my warden and I have a level 76 monk and it doesn't bother me at all.

I don't know this for sure, but I think this was Sony's attempt at giving some other classes the choice to wear something a little more revealing if that's what they wanted.  I think it was sign that they listened to that loooong post.  Perhaps some of you are right and we should have our own look, but that takes time to design.  I think the evidence speaks for itself though when you see just how many people are wearing these.  Many of us don't want the nun look anymore and hopefully this will be taken into consideration the next time armor is designed.

I don't think armor has to look like a gi and still show a little more skin.  Would just take a little imagination.

Thats what the male/female formal ensembles are for.

Don't forget the White Dresses(I forget the name), and the Tradesmen/women outfists, both of those also show skin, Heck I then the Tradeswomens is the only outfit in game that shows a belly button(though I could be wrong).

[Grimlux]

Unless they plan on giving all the classes their own unique graphics (doubtful) The Gi's should be able to be worn in appearance slot by anyone who can wear leather. A monk could faction with priest/fighter faction on either good or evil and get a plate look of multiple colors. How is this any different? The racial hat rice hat hold's true and that it should be MONK/Bruiser only, but that is it. Every one of us had a unique helmet and now a weapon.

[Sapphirius]

Wyntre@Kithicor wrote:

Please read before alleging negative intent.  Thank you.

I did read. You forget that the internet has no such thing as inflection when we write. The words you write could be taken any way reader feels whether you put a useless smiley at the end or not. Keep that in mind before using sarcasm and/or "teasing" as humor.

[Daysy]

firexcracker wrote:

So, brawlers are allowed to have a unique and interesting look, but nobody else is?  Oh, okay then.  /rolleyes

Of course they are, that's the whole point. The brawler look should be for brawlers. Just brawlers. The others can get their own.