Being asked to hide pet in groups

Anesh · 01-20-2008, 01:34 PM

I understand that everyone has a /hide pet option for their little deity/charmed pet. What I don't understand is when I'm in a group and I'm asked to hide my conjuror pet, in which case /hide pet doesn't work for summoned minions. As an example that happened to me today, when someone asks me to hide my pet because they were accidentally healing my pet instead of a group member, do they really mean they want me to kill the pet? Or do they think /hide pet works for conjured pets? Am I missing something? Usually when this happens I kill my pet and am baffled, now I'm starting to think about creating a macro that has me shout "I can't hide my summoned minion only make it smaller. So stop asking." Or should I be handling it a totally different way? I just want to be the best Conjuror I can be and improve, constructive ideas appreciated.

Daghammerskold · 01-20-2008, 02:22 PM

Main pets can't be hidden. Ignore people who insist you do.The healer you mention must have either been targeting thru the mob and healed your pet because it grabbed aggro, which he should do, or else he needs to develop some better targeting techniques.

TheSpin · 01-20-2008, 04:46 PM

I think the most diplomatic answer if you are asked to hide your primary pet would be something like this.

"You can only hide diety pets. I am a summoner and I depend on my pet for a lot of my damage. It can't be hidden."

StaticLex · 01-20-2008, 06:35 PM

Here's how you respond.. "Listen up ya [Removed for Content] noob, if you weren't trying to click-target players instead of using the faster and more reliable F keys you wouldn't be having problems. Now sit back, shut up, and do your job the right way."

Eniwyn · 01-20-2008, 07:44 PM

How about this:

Do you have your pet named after your self?

Maybe the healers have your name macro'ed so that the spell unintentionally heals your pet instad of you..

Some have macro that will: /emergencyheal Remini

Just a suggestion before you make a comment to the ones that tell you to hide you main pet(Cause that isnt possible, afaik)

Thmy · 01-20-2008, 09:55 PM

you can always re-name your pets

"NOTyourTARGET"

but some times having them heal through the mob, if you pet has agrro, can really help

Anesh · 01-21-2008, 02:41 AM

Wow great ideas everyone.My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II. At first I thought it was a joke, but it wasn't.

Eniwyn, that is a good caution against naming pets after yourself. But nope, I don't do that, I love giving my pets unique names.Good diplomatic answer to when this happens, TheSpin, although StaticLex's idea sounds more fun

K3mik4l · 01-21-2008, 09:48 AM

Wasn't there a command to type in to prevent targeting and avoiding this problem?

Supernova17 · 01-21-2008, 10:57 AM

StaticLex wrote:

Here's how you respond.. "Listen up ya [I cannot control my vocabulary] noob, if you weren't trying to click-target players instead of using the faster and more reliable F keys you wouldn't be having problems. Now sit back, shut up, and do your job the right way."

This is pretty much my mindset. If the healer is misclicking your pet to heal, they're a bad healer. In all my years playing my Templar I've never had that problem because *GASP* I play in 3rd person zoomed out halfway overhead so noting blocks my vision, use the F keys for independant targeting, use Tab/Target Next keys or my Tank assist button if I want to direct target the mob and heal through it. Send them to healer targeting school for dummies.If your pet pulls aggro frequently and you're waiting for a bit after pull to engage then it's the tanks fault for being a crappy tank. Send them to tank school for dummies. Apprentice II's??? FFS my little 14 Guardian has all Adept1's and I don't bother twinking him like I have my past tank alts who had Adept3's all the way up, rares mainly gathered from instance drops they were doing!!!

Vydar · 01-22-2008, 06:34 PM

Aneshia@Oasis wrote:

Wow great ideas everyone.My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II. At first I thought it was a joke, but it wasn't. Eniwyn, that is a good caution against naming pets after yourself. But nope, I don't do that, I love giving my pets unique names.Good diplomatic answer to when this happens, TheSpin, although StaticLex's idea sounds more fun

If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot.

Odomfel · 01-22-2008, 09:44 PM

Vydar@Vox wrote:

If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot.

I've never run across a raid leader that small minded as to make me rename a pet or look for someone else to fill my spot becasue of parse. Thats far too up tight and I wouldn't want to raid with an individual like that. Tell them to do some simple addition if they are that worried about it.

To the OP:

Tell the person to go back to healer school. Same with the tank. If folks are gonna play the class then they should know how to play the class.

StaticLex · 01-23-2008, 02:48 AM

If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot.

I don't know what kind of clown runs your raids but I'd be the first one to tell the parse [Removed for Content] to get a life.

Anonolo · 01-23-2008, 11:16 AM

I'm hearing more often that raid leaders are parsing and kicking the weakest ones out of regular raid groups... [Removed for Content] assheads tbh...to op: tell them noobs to update their gear and start learn2play their class... tbh I've never heard [Removed for Content] like that SMILEY

Karlen · 01-23-2008, 11:28 AM

>>>someone asks me to hide my pet because they were accidentally healing my pet instead of a group member,<<<>>>My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II.<<

Supernova17 · 01-23-2008, 04:36 PM

You will start naming your pet after yourself or you will look like crap on the parse and no busy raid leader is going to stomach going back and adding up you and the pet together after every fight or zone, especially if one or both don't appear on the parse. I don't understand what the big deal is...the pet is an extension of yourself, it should carry the same name anyway! Name your stupid diety pets and fluff pets cute names because they don't matter.

Melodee · 01-23-2008, 05:11 PM

On behalf of my necro-turned-conj, I have never had any heaelrs ask me to dump my pet. But that's probably because I run with intelligent healers who know how to target. Just last night in Acha, my goofy mage pet ripped aggro off the tank ((no it was NOT my fault for sending it too early hee hee)). Our healer was good enough at his job to keep both my pet, me and the tank up. And this was during the fight with Dvinn and his shadows ((wow........... that sounds like a good song title )). If anyone were to ask me to hide my pet I think I would look at them and say "HUH?"

Guiddian · 01-23-2008, 10:02 PM

any raid leader with half a brain would dump a conj thats getting out parsed by a healer for a higher dps class. our job in raids is clear blow [Removed for Content] up! if it appears the conj in question is not doing that, of course the raid leader will put someone who will in. raid leader isnt there to coddle anyone he is there to coordinate 24 people to achieve an objective. if the raid leader doesnt drop a high dps class who isnt putting out numbers for some one who will he isnt doing his job. and he isnt a dick or and [Removed for Content] for doing that he is being fair and just to the remaining 23 people who want to win. always do what make your raid leaders job easier! name your pet after yourself so he can easily see your total output.

Thmy · 01-24-2008, 09:07 AM

more information is better than less-

We used a special program and as long as you used the SAME pet name on raids it did not need to be your name.

Always good to know if the pets ( and swarm pets are adding to the total DPS) as well as the conj.

as wells as which pet type is doing better in a zone or after a new expantion.

it is a bit sad but if any swarm pets is not parsing ( even if it really is doing damage) best not to cast them if not helping your recorded total DPS.

01-20-2008, 06:35 PM	#4
StaticLex Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,230	Here's how you respond.. "Listen up ya [Removed for Content] noob, if you weren't trying to click-target players instead of using the faster and more reliable F keys you wouldn't be having problems. Now sit back, shut up, and do your job the right way." __________________ When you've played this game for ten years and gone to bat seven-thousand times and gotten two-thousand hits do you know what that really means? It means you've gone zero for five-thousand. --- Reggie Jackson

01-21-2008, 10:57 AM	#9
Supernova17 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,317	StaticLex wrote: Here's how you respond.. "Listen up ya [I cannot control my vocabulary] noob, if you weren't trying to click-target players instead of using the faster and more reliable F keys you wouldn't be having problems. Now sit back, shut up, and do your job the right way." This is pretty much my mindset. If the healer is misclicking your pet to heal, they're a bad healer. In all my years playing my Templar I've never had that problem because GASP I play in 3rd person zoomed out halfway overhead so noting blocks my vision, use the F keys for independant targeting, use Tab/Target Next keys or my Tank assist button if I want to direct target the mob and heal through it. Send them to healer targeting school for dummies.If your pet pulls aggro frequently and you're waiting for a bit after pull to engage then it's the tanks fault for being a crappy tank. Send them to tank school for dummies. Apprentice II's??? FFS my little 14 Guardian has all Adept1's and I don't bother twinking him like I have my past tank alts who had Adept3's all the way up, rares mainly gathered from instance drops they were doing!!!

01-22-2008, 06:34 PM	#10
Vydar Server: Vox Guild: Crimson Rank: Leader Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 362	Aneshia@Oasis wrote: Wow great ideas everyone.My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II. At first I thought it was a joke, but it wasn't. Eniwyn, that is a good caution against naming pets after yourself. But nope, I don't do that, I love giving my pets unique names.Good diplomatic answer to when this happens, TheSpin, although StaticLex's idea sounds more fun If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot.

01-22-2008, 09:44 PM	#11
Odomfel Server: Crushbone Guild: The Outcasts Rank: Petty Officer Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 67	Vydar@Vox wrote: If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot. I've never run across a raid leader that small minded as to make me rename a pet or look for someone else to fill my spot becasue of parse. Thats far too up tight and I wouldn't want to raid with an individual like that. Tell them to do some simple addition if they are that worried about it. To the OP: Tell the person to go back to healer school. Same with the tank. If folks are gonna play the class then they should know how to play the class. __________________ No cool image here yet.

01-23-2008, 02:48 AM	#12
StaticLex Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,230	If you start raiding, you'll start naming your pet after yourself.It's a must, otherwise your DPS parse looks terrible and your raid leader starts looking for someone else to fill your spot. I don't know what kind of clown runs your raids but I'd be the first one to tell the parse [Removed for Content] to get a life. __________________ When you've played this game for ten years and gone to bat seven-thousand times and gotten two-thousand hits do you know what that really means? It means you've gone zero for five-thousand. --- Reggie Jackson

01-20-2008, 01:34 PM	#1
Anesh Server: Oasis Guild: Crimson Knights Rank: Silver Knight General Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	I understand that everyone has a /hide pet option for their little deity/charmed pet. What I don't understand is when I'm in a group and I'm asked to hide my conjuror pet, in which case /hide pet doesn't work for summoned minions. As an example that happened to me today, when someone asks me to hide my pet because they were accidentally healing my pet instead of a group member, do they really mean they want me to kill the pet? Or do they think /hide pet works for conjured pets? Am I missing something? Usually when this happens I kill my pet and am baffled, now I'm starting to think about creating a macro that has me shout "I can't hide my summoned minion only make it smaller. So stop asking." Or should I be handling it a totally different way? I just want to be the best Conjuror I can be and improve, constructive ideas appreciated.

01-20-2008, 02:22 PM	#2
Daghammerskold Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 176	Main pets can't be hidden. Ignore people who insist you do.The healer you mention must have either been targeting thru the mob and healed your pet because it grabbed aggro, which he should do, or else he needs to develop some better targeting techniques.

01-20-2008, 04:46 PM	#3
TheSpin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,587	I think the most diplomatic answer if you are asked to hide your primary pet would be something like this. "You can only hide diety pets. I am a summoner and I depend on my pet for a lot of my damage. It can't be hidden."

01-20-2008, 07:44 PM	#5
Eniwyn Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 71	How about this: Do you have your pet named after your self? Maybe the healers have your name macro'ed so that the spell unintentionally heals your pet instad of you.. Some have macro that will: /emergencyheal Remini Just a suggestion before you make a comment to the ones that tell you to hide you main pet(Cause that isnt possible, afaik)

01-20-2008, 09:55 PM	#6
Thmy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 258	you can always re-name your pets "NOTyourTARGET" but some times having them heal through the mob, if you pet has agrro, can really help

01-21-2008, 02:41 AM	#7
Anesh Server: Oasis Guild: Crimson Knights Rank: Silver Knight General Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	Wow great ideas everyone.My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II. At first I thought it was a joke, but it wasn't. Eniwyn, that is a good caution against naming pets after yourself. But nope, I don't do that, I love giving my pets unique names.Good diplomatic answer to when this happens, TheSpin, although StaticLex's idea sounds more fun

01-21-2008, 09:48 AM	#8
K3mik4l Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 213	Wasn't there a command to type in to prevent targeting and avoiding this problem?

01-23-2008, 11:16 AM	#13
Anonolo Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 30	I'm hearing more often that raid leaders are parsing and kicking the weakest ones out of regular raid groups... [Removed for Content] assheads tbh...to op: tell them noobs to update their gear and start learn2play their class... tbh I've never heard [Removed for Content] like that __________________

01-23-2008, 11:28 AM	#14
Karlen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,513	>>>someone asks me to hide my pet because they were accidentally healing my pet instead of a group member,<<<>>>My pet did pull aggro, the main tank made a comment about upgrading his taunts from apprentice II.<<

01-23-2008, 04:36 PM	#15
Supernova17 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,317	You will start naming your pet after yourself or you will look like crap on the parse and no busy raid leader is going to stomach going back and adding up you and the pet together after every fight or zone, especially if one or both don't appear on the parse. I don't understand what the big deal is...the pet is an extension of yourself, it should carry the same name anyway! Name your stupid diety pets and fluff pets cute names because they don't matter.

01-23-2008, 05:11 PM	#16
Melodee Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 285	On behalf of my necro-turned-conj, I have never had any heaelrs ask me to dump my pet. But that's probably because I run with intelligent healers who know how to target. Just last night in Acha, my goofy mage pet ripped aggro off the tank ((no it was NOT my fault for sending it too early hee hee)). Our healer was good enough at his job to keep both my pet, me and the tank up. And this was during the fight with Dvinn and his shadows ((wow........... that sounds like a good song title )). If anyone were to ask me to hide my pet I think I would look at them and say "HUH?"

01-23-2008, 10:02 PM	#17
Guiddian Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 98	any raid leader with half a brain would dump a conj thats getting out parsed by a healer for a higher dps class. our job in raids is clear blow [Removed for Content] up! if it appears the conj in question is not doing that, of course the raid leader will put someone who will in. raid leader isnt there to coddle anyone he is there to coordinate 24 people to achieve an objective. if the raid leader doesnt drop a high dps class who isnt putting out numbers for some one who will he isnt doing his job. and he isnt a dick or and [Removed for Content] for doing that he is being fair and just to the remaining 23 people who want to win. always do what make your raid leaders job easier! name your pet after yourself so he can easily see your total output.

01-24-2008, 09:07 AM	#18
Thmy Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 258	more information is better than less- We used a special program and as long as you used the SAME pet name on raids it did not need to be your name. Always good to know if the pets ( and swarm pets are adding to the total DPS) as well as the conj. as wells as which pet type is doing better in a zone or after a new expantion. it is a bit sad but if any swarm pets is not parsing ( even if it really is doing damage) best not to cast them if not helping your recorded total DPS.