Plz nerf avoidance

hisawat · 01-17-2008, 01:38 AM

Rares avoid me almost always. Their avoidance is too high. Plz nerf it. Even ROK epic mobs don't have that high avoidance.

Aidyn · 01-17-2008, 04:04 AM

rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est.

coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions.

thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast.

Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!!

Valdaglerion · 01-17-2008, 12:24 PM

Aidyn@Crushbone wrote:

rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est.
coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions.
thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast.
Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!!

I think they are again. I havent gotten a soft or hard metal rare in about a month now. In short, I have given up harvesting for rares for the most part and leave it to the botters. Apparently if you arent harvesting 24x7 you cant get them. The only ones I have found in the last month are a couple of mantrap roots and a couple mahogany.

Illmarr · 01-17-2008, 01:24 PM

hisawat wrote:

Rares avoid me almost always. Their avoidance is too high. Plz nerf it. Even ROK epic mobs don't have that high avoidance.

I don't know if the avoidence needs to be nerfed or not, but kudos on the entertaining way of asking. I'm still chuckling. Thank you

Illmarr · 01-17-2008, 01:27 PM

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:

Aidyn@Crushbone wrote:
rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est.
coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions.
thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast.
Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!!
I think they are again. I havent gotten a soft or hard metal rare in about a month now. In short, I have given up harvesting for rares for the most part and leave it to the botters. Apparently if you arent harvesting 24x7 you cant get them. The only ones I have found in the last month are a couple of mantrap roots and a couple mahogany.

Last night I got my first mined rare in about 2 weeks, and I have been grinding writs in Bellywhumper and Brute caves in Kunzar. I agree rares are rare again. I don't have an issue with that personally

Cusashorn · 01-17-2008, 07:08 PM

Aidyn@Crushbone wrote:

Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!!

I wanna go back to the time when Rares were uncommon, uncommons where rare, and commons were already in your bag by the time you logged into the game (July of '07)

Ama · 01-17-2008, 07:39 PM

Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal.

Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3.

Cadori Seraphim · 01-17-2008, 07:41 PM

Amana wrote:

Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal.
Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3.

In RoK? I find that hard to believe.Lower lvl tiers I can see easy as the lower the tier the better your chances (as updated not so long ago).

Valdaglerion · 01-17-2008, 08:40 PM

Amana wrote:

Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal.
Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3.

Quit farming Varsoon Amana SMILEY

And like Sidori if you are referring to rok I am calling LIES and Shanagans on that statement. Same for rares there too -Now taking this toon to Thundering Steppes or any other lower tier is a different story. I think I acquired about a dozen rares while completing the feeding the halfling quest in Thundering Steppes.For the record - I could care less about rare drop rates anymore. There is nothing left in this expansion I want to craft at this time. The few housing items I felt were good I have acquired already and am actually considering selling off my crafting alts on the exchange for someone else to play with.I looked at the broker this morning for "mahogany" as the search term. I would expect the mahogany timber to come up first, several pages of it as least but in fact I got almost 4 1/2 pages of finished products listed FIRST, followed by the raw rare materials interspersed with finish products. That to me was the tolling of the bell for my crafting investment. As long as people are willing to sell their time and skill for cheaper than the base materials it will always be better for others to sell the rares and buy the finished products and still make a profit. Times like these I wish Domino had implemented what was suggested last year in the way of an ability to transmute mastercrafted items merely to extract the rare component. I would make a killing in this market SMILEY

Calthine · 01-17-2008, 10:21 PM

Do I get to tell my "Back in MY day" rares story?It's random, random, random. Someone may have gotten 2 T8 rares in 20 minutes. (And that's it for them for like a month....)

Cynto · 01-18-2008, 02:52 AM

Well, i've been on a bit of a hiatus from game since Christmas, so nearly a month coming up here, and maybe it got changed in that time period, but I have harvested about 138 T8 rares or so since RoK came out. I have at least 10 of each type of rare, and honestly I was only harvesting enough so that I could grind crafting writs.

Also, I have been online once or twice in the last couple of weeks as well, and i've harvested at least 5 rares. At the time I just harvested a few nodes while I was working on quests in Kunzar, so I think that the harvest rate for rares is about the same as it has been.

If you are having bad luck just give it time, it will in fact turn around eventually. You just need to get the random number generator to like you better. I think that taking it out to dinner and buying it lots of pretty flowers really helped me out in that area...

Just my 2cp.

I wish those of you having bad harvesting luck a better time of it in the future.

Edited to add that all my harvesting listed above was T8

01-17-2008, 12:24 PM	#3
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Aidyn@Crushbone wrote: rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est. coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions. thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast. Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!! I think they are again. I havent gotten a soft or hard metal rare in about a month now. In short, I have given up harvesting for rares for the most part and leave it to the botters. Apparently if you arent harvesting 24x7 you cant get them. The only ones I have found in the last month are a couple of mantrap roots and a couple mahogany.

01-17-2008, 01:24 PM	#4
Illmarr Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,448	hisawat wrote: Rares avoid me almost always. Their avoidance is too high. Plz nerf it. Even ROK epic mobs don't have that high avoidance. I don't know if the avoidence needs to be nerfed or not, but kudos on the entertaining way of asking. I'm still chuckling. Thank you

01-17-2008, 01:27 PM	#5
Illmarr Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,448	Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote: Aidyn@Crushbone wrote: rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est. coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions. thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast. Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!! I think they are again. I havent gotten a soft or hard metal rare in about a month now. In short, I have given up harvesting for rares for the most part and leave it to the botters. Apparently if you arent harvesting 24x7 you cant get them. The only ones I have found in the last month are a couple of mantrap roots and a couple mahogany. Last night I got my first mined rare in about 2 weeks, and I have been grinding writs in Bellywhumper and Brute caves in Kunzar. I agree rares are rare again. I don't have an issue with that personally

01-17-2008, 07:08 PM	#6
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Aidyn@Crushbone wrote: Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!! I wanna go back to the time when Rares were uncommon, uncommons where rare, and commons were already in your bag by the time you logged into the game (July of '07)

01-17-2008, 07:39 PM	#7
Ama General Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,833	Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal. Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3. __________________

01-17-2008, 01:38 AM	#1
hisawat Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 138	Rares avoid me almost always. Their avoidance is too high. Plz nerf it. Even ROK epic mobs don't have that high avoidance.

01-17-2008, 04:04 AM	#2
Aidyn Server: Crushbone Guild: Cohort Chalybeius Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 43	rare - Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rair] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -adjective, rar·er, rar·est. coming or occurring far apart in time; unusual; uncommon: a rare disease; His visits are rare occasions. thinly distributed over an area; few and widely separated: Lighthouses are rare on that part of the coast. Be thankful that you werent playing back in the day when rares were well .. ummm rare!!!

01-17-2008, 07:41 PM	#8
Cadori Seraphim Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 965	Amana wrote: Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal. Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3. In RoK? I find that hard to believe.Lower lvl tiers I can see easy as the lower the tier the better your chances (as updated not so long ago).

01-17-2008, 08:40 PM	#9
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Amana wrote: Ya master chests and legendary chests drop like mad anymore. When I first came to EQ2 it was like 3-5 months before I saw my first master since I was never given the opportunity to raid. Getting a rare from harvesting was next to impossible. Was lucky enough that after my 100th ore cluster I got a rare metal. Now I take like 20min out of my time to harvest for guildies and I get 1 rare sometimes up to 3. Quit farming Varsoon Amana And like Sidori if you are referring to rok I am calling LIES and Shanagans on that statement. Same for rares there too -Now taking this toon to Thundering Steppes or any other lower tier is a different story. I think I acquired about a dozen rares while completing the feeding the halfling quest in Thundering Steppes.For the record - I could care less about rare drop rates anymore. There is nothing left in this expansion I want to craft at this time. The few housing items I felt were good I have acquired already and am actually considering selling off my crafting alts on the exchange for someone else to play with.I looked at the broker this morning for "mahogany" as the search term. I would expect the mahogany timber to come up first, several pages of it as least but in fact I got almost 4 1/2 pages of finished products listed FIRST, followed by the raw rare materials interspersed with finish products. That to me was the tolling of the bell for my crafting investment. As long as people are willing to sell their time and skill for cheaper than the base materials it will always be better for others to sell the rares and buy the finished products and still make a profit. Times like these I wish Domino had implemented what was suggested last year in the way of an ability to transmute mastercrafted items merely to extract the rare component. I would make a killing in this market

01-17-2008, 10:21 PM	#10
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	Do I get to tell my "Back in MY day" rares story?It's random, random, random. Someone may have gotten 2 T8 rares in 20 minutes. (And that's it for them for like a month....) __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

01-18-2008, 02:52 AM	#11
Cynto Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 144	Well, i've been on a bit of a hiatus from game since Christmas, so nearly a month coming up here, and maybe it got changed in that time period, but I have harvested about 138 T8 rares or so since RoK came out. I have at least 10 of each type of rare, and honestly I was only harvesting enough so that I could grind crafting writs. Also, I have been online once or twice in the last couple of weeks as well, and i've harvested at least 5 rares. At the time I just harvested a few nodes while I was working on quests in Kunzar, so I think that the harvest rate for rares is about the same as it has been. If you are having bad luck just give it time, it will in fact turn around eventually. You just need to get the random number generator to like you better. I think that taking it out to dinner and buying it lots of pretty flowers really helped me out in that area... Just my 2cp. I wish those of you having bad harvesting luck a better time of it in the future. Edited to add that all my harvesting listed above was T8 __________________ ~The once hard-core, now soft-core EQ2 player.~ A much less grumpy crafter still plying his trade since 11-8-04.