Appearance option for weapon/shield, will it ever happen?

[Laoch69]

This may be in the wrong forum, my apologies in advance, but to me it fell under "gameplay"

Anyways, as the subject says, will this ever be an option?  Or is it in fact something that is going to happen in the future?

It seems kind of silly that you can have a complete look for armour, but with weapons and shield, you are "stuck" with whatever you are using.

On PvP, I can maybe see a reason for not having appearance slots available for weapons, but on a PvE server, I can't see a reason why not?

[Sasandra]

Yeah, i'd love that too, especialy for shields since in 3 years they never fixed the horible clipping issues with the stupid tower shields on your back, on my Paladin I just took the avoidance hit and use a kite shield for that reason alone, really wish there was an option actualy to just not sheath the shield on my back, and yes I know having cloaks on causes shields to not show but ugly over-starched beach towels doesn't look any better than you head clipping thru a shield.

[LordFyre]

Elysara@Mistmoore wrote:

Yeah, i'd love that too, especialy for shields since in 3 years they never fixed the horible clipping issues with the stupid tower shields on your back, on my Paladin I just took the avoidance hit and use a kite shield for that reason alone, really wish there was an option actualy to just not sheath the shield on my back, and yes I know having cloaks on causes shields to not show but ugly over-starched beach towels doesn't look any better than you head clipping thru a shield.

Not to mention that the cloaks clip almost as badly as the shields do. 

[Chondrichtheyia]

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

[Zabjade]

I've always been for putting sheaths in those slots maybe a backpack in the shield slot that shows up on the back.

[Dulissa]

Chondrichtheyia wrote:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

QFEIt's one thing to have two sets of clothes on.But to be using a dagger with the image of a sword (or a club with the image of a dagger)

[AratornCalahn]

Dulissa@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Chondrichtheyia wrote:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

QFEIt's one thing to have two sets of clothes on.But to be using a dagger with the image of a sword (or a club with the image of a dagger)

If you can think that your wearing an invisable layer of metal under that tight form fitting skimpy dress (entrily realistic in a fantasy game) then you can think that you have cast a spell on your weapons to make them look diffrent.

[Josgar]

AratornCalahn wrote:

Dulissa@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Chondrichtheyia wrote:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

QFEIt's one thing to have two sets of clothes on.But to be using a dagger with the image of a sword (or a club with the image of a dagger)

If you can think that your wearing an invisable layer of metal under that tight form fitting skimpy dress (entrily realistic in a fantasy game) then you can think that you have cast a spell on your weapons to make them look diffrent.

Not all classes use magic...

[Elendhelie]

I think you guys are thinking about this way too much.The way I see it, and this is quite easy... is this: Regardless of what you have on under your appearance tab, your Appearance is basically a reskin of your armour. If youre wearing one of those dresses over your chainmail, then you are wearing a dress, not a chainmail set. Regardless of whether you get so much armour value out of it, with stat bonuses. xD I dont see why a reskin of a shield or a weapon would be silly... Did that make sense? I think its about as RP as wandering around saying youre wearing a dress over your platemail. >.>A shield appearance tab atleast would be nice. Not that I ever see mine - the wonders of being a fae/arasai.

[Sasandra]

Chondrichtheyia wrote:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

huh? /boggle

 How is wearing one suit of plate mail over another or a dress over a suit of plate mail that shows your bare legs not silly and rediculous while weilding a sword and it displaying as a dagger is? it's the exact same thing, pretending that you are wearing one suit of armor on top of another is just as much of a stretch as your sword displaying as a dagger. 

[AratornCalahn]

Josgar@Unrest wrote:

AratornCalahn wrote:

Dulissa@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Chondrichtheyia wrote:

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: having alternate appearances for weapons and shields is just plain silly and ridiculous. It makes absolutely so sense how this could even happen. With alternate clothes, I can pretend that I wear my regular armor for stats, and then I wear my appearance armor on top of it for looks. Kinda iffy, really, but not THAT much of a stretch. Alternate weapons just don't make sense. Instead, let's get to the root of the problem and get the devs to put some creativity, artistic talent and variability in those weapon and shield designs.

QFEIt's one thing to have two sets of clothes on.But to be using a dagger with the image of a sword (or a club with the image of a dagger)

If you can think that your wearing an invisable layer of metal under that tight form fitting skimpy dress (entrily realistic in a fantasy game) then you can think that you have cast a spell on your weapons to make them look diffrent.

Not all classes use magic...

How exactly do your items give you +30 stamina? I highly doubt it does it by giving you a nice warm feeling that makes you think you can get hit harder by various things...

[uux]

Laoch69 wrote:

On PvP, I can maybe see a reason for not having appearance slots available for weapons, but on a PvE server, I can't see a reason why not?

Is PVP even a valid reason not to?  The weapon graphics are re-used so much I doubt anyone could reliably guess what weapon a player is wielding based on appearance alone.They could put restrictions on it.  For example, you could only put a dagger in your appearance slot if you had a dagger equipped in the regular inventory slot.  If for whatever reason the type doesn't match (swapped during combat), don't override the appearance of the equipped item.  The same could be applied to slot requirements so you can't hide a 1H and shield with a 2H, etc.   I wouldn't see a problem if some types were interchangeable, though.  Like axes and swords, or flails and clubs.  The items do the same thing, the only difference is the graphic displayed.

[uux]

Elysara@Mistmoore wrote:

huh? /boggle

 How is wearing one suit of plate mail over another or a dress over a suit of plate mail that shows your bare legs not silly and rediculous while weilding a sword and it displaying as a dagger is? it's the exact same thing, pretending that you are wearing one suit of armor on top of another is just as much of a stretch as your sword displaying as a dagger. 

/agree, and ...Can I just pretend that my character's armor has that appearance instead of pretending that he is wearing two suits of plate at the same time?Can I also pretend that the funky rainbow armor set my character's items combined to make never existed before the appearance slots were introduced?  We all know medievil armor was rainbow colored and all, and not to mention the giant ogres, lizard men, and cat-like people loved wearing them back then, but this is a game.  We want to be allowed to do crazy and unreal stuff like wear matching armor and have cool looking weapons or shields.

[Laoch69]

Even if we had the option to only be able to equip a shield in apperance, if you were using a shield, or a sword in appearance if you were using a sword, that option alone would be great

Saying that it is not "rpg" enough or "un-imaginable" seems kind of ridiculous to me.  We have people riding around on 10 foot tall wargs with flaming paws, but somehow, imagining that you are using a weapon, that actually appears differently is too much to fathom?  /boggle

[Jeenyous]

I'm all for having options and freedom, the more the better.

The community going about shooting down ideas is not the way to gain this freedom.  The quick "NO" from the community really needs to stop.  Solution seeking where all win out is a better road to take.

Use or Not Use = Choice, and that's a good thing for everyone.  If one doesn't like SOGA, don't use them.  If another does, great!  If one likes the appearance option to wear robes as a Guardian, good for them.  If another doesn't and wants to wear mismatched plate to show where they got it from as a symbol of pride, more power to them as well.

I like the idea of having more appearance slots for things held in the hands.

[Elendhelie]

Jeenyous wrote:

I'm all for having options and freedom, the more the better.

The community going about shooting down ideas is not the way to gain this freedom.  The quick "NO" from the community really needs to stop.  Solution seeking where all win out is a better road to take.

Use or Not Use = Choice, and that's a good thing for everyone.  If one doesn't like SOGA, don't use them.  If another does, great!  If one likes the appearance option to wear robes as a Guardian, good for them.  If another doesn't and wants to wear mismatched plate to show where they got it from as a symbol of pride, more power to them as well.

I like the idea of having more appearance slots for things held in the hands.

I totally agree, I am so dead tired and sick of seeing people replying to topics like this with "no", like their word settles the matter. If you dont like it, and it gets put into the game, heres a thought: Dont use it! Like the skirts I desparately want, if they get put in, and you dont want to use them, then dont! No ones forcing you to. Unlike the LON content which you cant stop from downloading when it does...