Where are the promised character's model/graphic/skeletal overhaul???

SmashingPumpki · 11-15-2007, 11:41 AM

I clearly remeber they advertised a skeletal system overhaul for characters (so new model, armors, etc etc...) to be included with the RoK expansion... I can't see any.... so where are those promised changes?

(or am I just blind and missed something official about it?)

Cusashorn · 11-15-2007, 11:49 AM

You're right. You were very clearly promised a new skeletal revamp to the current game models.

But Sony never said *WHEN* they were going to deliver it. Sarnaks have the new skeletal model since the designers worked from scratch. That doesn't mean it's ready for everyone else.

Tellian_VelShadow · 11-15-2007, 11:51 AM

I'd have been perfectly content awaiting ROK if they had worked on that first. Sure, we'll give you something you've wanted / begged for forever. Just wait a few months while we get out this expansion so that you can pay us again.Meh.. Just do what you say and stop dillying around imo.

Wilde_Night · 11-15-2007, 11:55 AM

I don't recall them ever promising to have them all out with RoK. Though, the Sarnak are the first to officially use one of the new skeletons.

Here is some text from a Developer interview they had at Allakhazam:

Our first question comes from Mirander of Unrest Are you guys still working on that revamp of character models? And if you are, could we get any new info on it? A rough timeframe until it's finished, more info on what exactly this change entails, things like that. Indeed we still are. I'm thrilled to say that it's been progressing very well. For the past few months, this has become much more of a hard production project and much less of an R&D effort. When we said this was a long term project last year, we weren't joking around. It has been a ton of work. (more) There are two main goals - Both improvements in performance as well as improving the speed at which we can create new visible armor. We've had to improve both the underlying character systems, as well as how they tie into our game data, and introduce significant new morphing tech into our engine. At the moment, we're targetting having it out by the end of calendar 2007. Expect us to start talking more about it this fall.

All we can hope for is an upcoming LU with the new skeletons sometime this coming year. *crosses her fingers*

Rattfa · 11-15-2007, 11:55 AM

They didn't promise the skeletel revamp for RoK.They haven't given a date.

Tellian_VelShadow · 11-15-2007, 01:23 PM

I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed).

Gungo · 11-15-2007, 01:32 PM

The skeletal revamp is comoing after RoK more then likely in first quarter of 2008.

Along with the skeletal revamp (first quarter 2008" We got EPICS coming (first quarter 2008" (should have been with expansion)We got new guild halls (no eta, but stated after RoK)The new Shard of Hate zone (no eta but revamped for T8, due after RoK)lvl 85 Avatars (not in game yet) (should have been w expansion)New map system (after Rok but originally due with the expansion)

and they are still tweaking RoK for release.

So SOE seems to be a bit behind this expansion, and have a fairly large amount of stuff planned for release soon. But guild halls and skeletal revamp was never promised for rok release. It has always been stated due after RoK.

Tellian_VelShadow · 11-15-2007, 01:51 PM

-Sighs- Do you read the whole thread before you respond? Here, just in case you missed it."I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed)."Thank you.

Gungo · 11-15-2007, 02:05 PM

Adrone@Lucan DLere wrote:

-Sighs- Do you read the whole thread before you respond? Here, just in case you missed it."I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed)."Thank you.

Sigh do you read the thread you respond to? Read the freakin title.Obviously it was to difficult for you to take your own advice and read the thread.

"Re:Where are the promised character's model/graphic/skeletal overhaul???"

better now?

Morningside · 11-15-2007, 03:09 PM

Ok...since this is starting to get ugly I'm going to consider this issue Asked, Answered and Locked.

11-15-2007, 11:55 AM	#4
Wilde_Night Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,127	I don't recall them ever promising to have them all out with RoK. Though, the Sarnak are the first to officially use one of the new skeletons. Here is some text from a Developer interview they had at Allakhazam: Our first question comes from Mirander of Unrest Are you guys still working on that revamp of character models? And if you are, could we get any new info on it? A rough timeframe until it's finished, more info on what exactly this change entails, things like that. Indeed we still are. I'm thrilled to say that it's been progressing very well. For the past few months, this has become much more of a hard production project and much less of an R&D effort. When we said this was a long term project last year, we weren't joking around. It has been a ton of work. (more) There are two main goals - Both improvements in performance as well as improving the speed at which we can create new visible armor. We've had to improve both the underlying character systems, as well as how they tie into our game data, and introduce significant new morphing tech into our engine. At the moment, we're targetting having it out by the end of calendar 2007. Expect us to start talking more about it this fall. All we can hope for is an upcoming LU with the new skeletons sometime this coming year. crosses her fingers __________________

11-15-2007, 11:55 AM	#5
Rattfa Server: Nagafen Guild: Purity Rank: Friends And Family General Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,083	They didn't promise the skeletel revamp for RoK.They haven't given a date. __________________ Squeeeek, 80 Brigand - Nagafen Rattface, 80 Fury - Nagafen

11-15-2007, 02:05 PM	#9
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	Adrone@Lucan DLere wrote: -Sighs- Do you read the whole thread before you respond? Here, just in case you missed it."I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed)."Thank you. Sigh do you read the thread you respond to? Read the freakin title.Obviously it was to difficult for you to take your own advice and read the thread. "Re:Where are the promised character's model/graphic/skeletal overhaul???" better now?

11-15-2007, 03:09 PM	#10
Morningside Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 127	Ok...since this is starting to get ugly I'm going to consider this issue Asked, Answered and Locked. __________________ __________________________________________________ _____________________________ \|\| Forum Rules of Conduct \|\| Tech Support \|\| Dev Tracker \|\| Community Relations \|\|

11-15-2007, 11:41 AM	#1
SmashingPumpki General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	I clearly remeber they advertised a skeletal system overhaul for characters (so new model, armors, etc etc...) to be included with the RoK expansion... I can't see any.... so where are those promised changes? (or am I just blind and missed something official about it?)

11-15-2007, 11:49 AM	#2
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	You're right. You were very clearly promised a new skeletal revamp to the current game models. But Sony never said WHEN they were going to deliver it. Sarnaks have the new skeletal model since the designers worked from scratch. That doesn't mean it's ready for everyone else.

11-15-2007, 11:51 AM	#3
Tellian_VelShadow Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 27	I'd have been perfectly content awaiting ROK if they had worked on that first. Sure, we'll give you something you've wanted / begged for forever. Just wait a few months while we get out this expansion so that you can pay us again.Meh.. Just do what you say and stop dillying around imo.

11-15-2007, 01:23 PM	#6
Tellian_VelShadow Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 27	I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed).

11-15-2007, 01:32 PM	#7
Gungo Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Crushbone Posts: 5,378	The skeletal revamp is comoing after RoK more then likely in first quarter of 2008. Along with the skeletal revamp (first quarter 2008" We got EPICS coming (first quarter 2008" (should have been with expansion)We got new guild halls (no eta, but stated after RoK)The new Shard of Hate zone (no eta but revamped for T8, due after RoK)lvl 85 Avatars (not in game yet) (should have been w expansion)New map system (after Rok but originally due with the expansion) and they are still tweaking RoK for release. So SOE seems to be a bit behind this expansion, and have a fairly large amount of stuff planned for release soon. But guild halls and skeletal revamp was never promised for rok release. It has always been stated due after RoK.

11-15-2007, 01:51 PM	#8
Tellian_VelShadow Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 27	-Sighs- Do you read the whole thread before you respond? Here, just in case you missed it."I never said that they promised it with ROK. I was expressing that i would have gladly waited on the expansion for them to utilize the manpower elsewhere (on the revamp instead, or on many of the other numerous things that have still gone unfixed)."Thank you.