Odus, Please

Vonyor · 11-02-2007, 02:18 PM

I have wanted to see Erudin again ever since I first heard EQ2 was being developed. When I first started playing EQ1, I did what allot of people did. I made a character of every race so I could check out all the starting cities. Which helped me decide which race I wanted to be. I loved the Idea of Erudites magical prowess, I loved the portals that brought you around the city. I loved the marble, the greenery, the fountains.If Odus were to be the next expansion I would definitely get it and continue playing EQ2 longer then I ever expected to. First of all I would of coarse want to be able to live in Erudin. So I would hope it would remain a player city. Toxxulia Forest and Stonebrunt mountains can be overland zones. Paineel and The Warrens could be made into dungeons or instances, and The Hole could be a raid zone. Then there is also Kerra Isle and Erud's Crossing. Paineel could also have an instance with Miragul's lab or something since he used to live there.There are also a few places on the map that came with EQ1 that weren't in the game. The Grand Plateau, The Vasty Deep, The Abysmal Sea, The Gulf of Urun and The Barren Coast.Also, Odus could introduce the goddess Druzzil Ro who seemed to favor the Erudites.

Saroc_Luclin · 11-02-2007, 02:29 PM

Odus and Velious IMO are the two lead contenders for the next expansion. Personally, though I'd love to see Velious, we've been seeing more hints through the years for Odus so I suspect it will be next. From the lore we have in EQII to date, I would expect there to be a LARGE temple in Stonebrunt Mountains devoted to Quellithule; and if they aren't in by then; though Druzzil would be a good goddess to add then too. Oh and though it is post-EQII's launch time, Abysmal Sea (added with GoD) and the Barren Coast (added with TBS) are in EQLive; as is the Buried Sea which may be the Vasty Deep. No sign of the Grand Plateau however nor the Gulf of Urun.

Cocytus · 11-02-2007, 04:39 PM

I'd rather see Velious.

Cusashorn · 11-02-2007, 04:46 PM

In B4 people start saying that Odus isn't large enough to be an expansion pack.

TheSpin · 11-02-2007, 04:48 PM

If I had to wager on it, I would not choose vellious as a next expansion simply because it was the follow up to the original kunark. It would be somewhat tacky to release expansions in the same order as the original game in my opinion.

Odus is the top contender that comes to mind, but I am sure there are plenty of places I haven't even thought of. Kithicor might be something else to consider as it was a major zone in eq1 that doesn't exist in eq2. Getting all of the original starting cities back in Norrath would be a great thing to see. They are still missing Innuthole swamp too.

Galithdor · 11-02-2007, 05:56 PM

Didnt the devs mention somewhere that they were going to develop an original expansion pack next? Or am i just imagining things?

Vyrance · 11-02-2007, 06:31 PM

the next expansion will be the undercontinent of Stormhold, mark my words. or atleast one of the underfoot continents. i believe one of the sony staff was quoted as saying the next expansion may be a place that was talked of before in lore but never actually went to yet in everquest.

Leatherneck · 11-02-2007, 06:48 PM

TheSpin wrote:

If I had to wager on it, I would not choose vellious as a next expansion simply because it was the follow up to the original kunark. It would be somewhat tacky to release expansions in the same order as the original game in my opinion.

I would personally prefer to see Velious, and not "simply because it was the follow up to the original Kunark". IMO, Velious was the best expansion in EQ1, and I would love to see a well done reimagining of the continent.

Be that as it may, as long as it's not PoP, or having the essence of PoP, I'll be happy.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out that the next expansion is already largely laid out. In fact, I would be very surprised to find out they haven't at least laid out the groundwork of the next expansion.

Radigazt · 11-02-2007, 06:52 PM

Yep, several times they've said that they really enjoy remaking the old stuff, and it gets the developers jazzed to do it, but they also want to introduce new things as well, so the expansion after RoK will be something entirely new.

That said, some sort of underfoot might be a possibility, but I cannot imagine an all underground expansion, so I'd think it would be either part of another expansion, or as part of a new Live Update like Neriak was. With Fallen Gate, Stormhold and now Neriak, I don't think the underfoot would need so much as to constitute an expansion anyway, but it would be a great thing to develop piece-meal with the live updates .... every 3 or 4 updates add a major element of the underfoot (like they did with Neriak) would be very welcome by the player base.

LordPazuzu · 11-03-2007, 02:07 PM

I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole.

Leatherneck · 11-03-2007, 03:29 PM

LordPazuzu wrote:

I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole.

The Warrens was crazy fun when it came out. It could either be a death-trap or a plat...well...gold farm, depending on how well you played.

Mysticdraco · 11-03-2007, 10:57 PM

I think Odus would make a wonderful expansion. The different cultures that arose from the continent really bring a unique feel to it. I feel that with the Erudites left to thier magics they might have created different terrain. Perhaps even areas of Odus have become torn up by powerful magic.

Qandor · 11-04-2007, 02:34 AM

In my mind Velious was the high point of EQ, so I would definitely love to see Velious first and foremost. That being said, they will probably hold off on Velious since it is the largest carrot they have left. What will be intriguing is to see what they would do after a Velious expansion. They do still have this little mess on the moon to resolve.

Na · 11-04-2007, 02:43 AM

Leatherneck wrote:

LordPazuzu wrote:
I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole.
The Warrens was crazy fun when it came out. It could either be a death-trap or a plat...well...gold farm, depending on how well you played.

If they do bring The Warrens back they better include the wicker armor set. That was one of the most unique looking, low-level armor sets that you could collect.

GwenRelentless · 11-04-2007, 03:14 AM

Don't get me wrong, I loved Velious and I would absolutly love to see it again in Eq2, but I agree with one of the previous posters that it would be kinda tacky to release Velious right after Kunark and I don't think it's going to be done. That being said, I think Odus would make a great addition in between Velious and Kunark. I would guess that since they raised the lvl cap to 80 with Kunark the next major expansion will not raise the cap and Odus would be a great place for that since Velious in my opinion really should raise the lvl cap to 90. As far as completely new content for an expansion, I personally don't care either way. New stuff is cool but I would be just as happy with just Eq2 versions of old continents too. The thing we need to keep in mind is once all the old continents are rediscovered the only thing they can do after that is new content so we will be seeing plenty of it in a few years (if we are all still here of course). Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the next expansion is totally new content and then Velious comes after that. The suggestion that it will be the underfoot is possible and I wouldn't be surprised because I seem to recall hearing something about how an opening to the underfoot is linked to Faydwer? Even so, It doesn't sound like much fun to me and I'd rather see Odus or maybe a brand new underwater previously undiscovered "sunken" continent. I don't much care for underground zones and I think we have enough of that with Splitpaw.

Jovie · 11-05-2007, 04:39 PM

I would rather see an expansion that covers the southern half of what used to be antonica.

Good side enters from the lake rathetear area, the evil side from the innothule swamp area. Semi linear where lower level from the outside to harder and harder on the inside.

Lake rathetear---rathe mountains----inny swamp

rathe lead to broken skull rock area, etc....

b lah

TheSpin · 11-05-2007, 04:50 PM

Jovie@Guk wrote:

I would rather see an expansion that covers the southern half of what used to be antonica.
Good side enters from the lake rathetear area, the evil side from the innothule swamp area. Semi linear where lower level from the outside to harder and harder on the inside.
Lake rathetear---rathe mountains----inny swamp
rathe lead to broken skull rock area, etc....
b lah

I gotta agree with this one. If I could choose between Odus and Innuthole I'd defiantely choose the swamp. Think about how many heritage quests we have that come from drops found in Guk?

I think when EQ1 came out there was very little in the Odus area and it was later on that the kobold dungeon and everything beyond it was added. To me this is another reason to release innuthole before Odus, because the content there is older.

GwenRelentless · 11-06-2007, 01:19 PM

Southern Antonica would be cool too, but I kinda assumed that it was underwater at this point since it would be located in part of the "known" world so it would be kinda hard to explain how we all missed it right under our noses.

Of course there is always the possiblility of a huge event happening where it gets lifted back up out of the water! Anything can happen in a magical world.

DataOutlaw · 11-06-2007, 02:42 PM

The way I see it there are two ways they could decide to bring Odus back into the game. I am not sure which of these I prefer as they would both be interesting in their own way.

Free content enhancement. Similar to Neriak they could have a free cotnent update that included what little bit is left of Odus which would probably just include Erudin, Paineel, and Toxxulia forest. Toxx forest would have quests to take newbies up to level 20 and then from there they click the mariner bell to go to Thundering Steppes and Nektulos forest to level like everyone else
Major expansion. Probably the newbie area in a much larger Ocean based expansion that would also include Kerra isle, Stonebrunt mountains, The Hole, and maybe even Highpass island as well where the Far Seas Trading Company is now based.

#1 would probably happen before the next expansion. #2 woudl happen next year and all the people who are lookign for Veliou snext would scream bloody murder.

DuskNightfall · 11-06-2007, 03:13 PM

Cusashorn wrote:

In B4 people start saying that Odus isn't large enough to be an expansion pack.

Odus as a 2 part Adventure pack, it is a little too big to be one Adventure pack. One good side(kerra) one evil maybe

Mirander_1 · 11-06-2007, 04:13 PM

GwenRelentless wrote:

Southern Antonica would be cool too, but I kinda assumed that it was underwater at this point since it would be located in part of the "known" world so it would be kinda hard to explain how we all missed it right under our noses.
Of course there is always the possiblility of a huge event happening where it gets lifted back up out of the water! Anything can happen in a magical world.

There's actually quite a number of pieces of Antonica that we know are still around (from at least one Vhalen post, and an old map that was in the EQ2 PnP RPG). There's Innothule Swamp, part of the Rathe Mountains, Unkempt Woods, Kithicor Forest, and Highpass.

Jovie · 11-06-2007, 04:42 PM

They could actually get away with an expansion that covered from Odus to the west all the way to Inny swamp to the east and everything they choose in between.

I don't see why developers feel the need to lump an expansion in a certain area. Why not spread things around?

Sartredes · 11-06-2007, 06:06 PM

If Odus were to be the next expansion, one thing I thing I think would be cool to add to it is the City of Highbourne, the original Erudite city prior to their move to Odus. On a map, this city was fairly near to Qeynos, but may now exist on some island chain after the rending. I remember from a post that Moorgard made on one of the EQ2 messageboards (either here or a fan site) that the zone was actually made fairly early in development and had some excellent architecture (he specifically mentioned the bridges). If I remember right it was intended to be in the original game, but was removed after evaluation of the performance of the zone was deemed poor. It must have really stunk considering Qeynos Harbor still made it in with its crummy performance. Anyhow, If they could clean this zone up to improve performance, it could be either a new starting city or a new city a la Maj'Dul.

Jovie · 11-06-2007, 06:12 PM

I think the exile town of the forces of Marr was also completed but not added to the game near freeport. They could maybe make highbourne evil and the marr camp good to offer starter areas closer to the opposing alignment cities.

11-02-2007, 05:56 PM	#6
Galithdor Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 984	Didnt the devs mention somewhere that they were going to develop an original expansion pack next? Or am i just imagining things? __________________

11-02-2007, 06:48 PM	#8
Leatherneck Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 697	TheSpin wrote: If I had to wager on it, I would not choose vellious as a next expansion simply because it was the follow up to the original kunark. It would be somewhat tacky to release expansions in the same order as the original game in my opinion. I would personally prefer to see Velious, and not "simply because it was the follow up to the original Kunark". IMO, Velious was the best expansion in EQ1, and I would love to see a well done reimagining of the continent. Be that as it may, as long as it's not PoP, or having the essence of PoP, I'll be happy. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find out that the next expansion is already largely laid out. In fact, I would be very surprised to find out they haven't at least laid out the groundwork of the next expansion.

11-03-2007, 03:29 PM	#11
Leatherneck Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 697	LordPazuzu wrote: I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole. The Warrens was crazy fun when it came out. It could either be a death-trap or a plat...well...gold farm, depending on how well you played.

11-04-2007, 02:43 AM	#14
Na General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59	Leatherneck wrote: LordPazuzu wrote: I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole. The Warrens was crazy fun when it came out. It could either be a death-trap or a plat...well...gold farm, depending on how well you played. If they do bring The Warrens back they better include the wicker armor set. That was one of the most unique looking, low-level armor sets that you could collect.

11-04-2007, 03:14 AM	#15
GwenRelentless Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nihilist Dynasty Posts: 153	Don't get me wrong, I loved Velious and I would absolutly love to see it again in Eq2, but I agree with one of the previous posters that it would be kinda tacky to release Velious right after Kunark and I don't think it's going to be done. That being said, I think Odus would make a great addition in between Velious and Kunark. I would guess that since they raised the lvl cap to 80 with Kunark the next major expansion will not raise the cap and Odus would be a great place for that since Velious in my opinion really should raise the lvl cap to 90. As far as completely new content for an expansion, I personally don't care either way. New stuff is cool but I would be just as happy with just Eq2 versions of old continents too. The thing we need to keep in mind is once all the old continents are rediscovered the only thing they can do after that is new content so we will be seeing plenty of it in a few years (if we are all still here of course). Still, I wouldn't be surprised if the next expansion is totally new content and then Velious comes after that. The suggestion that it will be the underfoot is possible and I wouldn't be surprised because I seem to recall hearing something about how an opening to the underfoot is linked to Faydwer? Even so, It doesn't sound like much fun to me and I'd rather see Odus or maybe a brand new underwater previously undiscovered "sunken" continent. I don't much care for underground zones and I think we have enough of that with Splitpaw. __________________

11-02-2007, 02:18 PM	#1
Vonyor Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 30	I have wanted to see Erudin again ever since I first heard EQ2 was being developed. When I first started playing EQ1, I did what allot of people did. I made a character of every race so I could check out all the starting cities. Which helped me decide which race I wanted to be. I loved the Idea of Erudites magical prowess, I loved the portals that brought you around the city. I loved the marble, the greenery, the fountains.If Odus were to be the next expansion I would definitely get it and continue playing EQ2 longer then I ever expected to. First of all I would of coarse want to be able to live in Erudin. So I would hope it would remain a player city. Toxxulia Forest and Stonebrunt mountains can be overland zones. Paineel and The Warrens could be made into dungeons or instances, and The Hole could be a raid zone. Then there is also Kerra Isle and Erud's Crossing. Paineel could also have an instance with Miragul's lab or something since he used to live there.There are also a few places on the map that came with EQ1 that weren't in the game. The Grand Plateau, The Vasty Deep, The Abysmal Sea, The Gulf of Urun and The Barren Coast.Also, Odus could introduce the goddess Druzzil Ro who seemed to favor the Erudites.

11-02-2007, 02:29 PM	#2
Saroc_Luclin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 534	Odus and Velious IMO are the two lead contenders for the next expansion. Personally, though I'd love to see Velious, we've been seeing more hints through the years for Odus so I suspect it will be next. From the lore we have in EQII to date, I would expect there to be a LARGE temple in Stonebrunt Mountains devoted to Quellithule; and if they aren't in by then; though Druzzil would be a good goddess to add then too. Oh and though it is post-EQII's launch time, Abysmal Sea (added with GoD) and the Barren Coast (added with TBS) are in EQLive; as is the Buried Sea which may be the Vasty Deep. No sign of the Grand Plateau however nor the Gulf of Urun.

11-02-2007, 04:39 PM	#3
Cocytus Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,908	I'd rather see Velious.

11-02-2007, 04:46 PM	#4
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	In B4 people start saying that Odus isn't large enough to be an expansion pack.

11-02-2007, 04:48 PM	#5
TheSpin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,587	If I had to wager on it, I would not choose vellious as a next expansion simply because it was the follow up to the original kunark. It would be somewhat tacky to release expansions in the same order as the original game in my opinion. Odus is the top contender that comes to mind, but I am sure there are plenty of places I haven't even thought of. Kithicor might be something else to consider as it was a major zone in eq1 that doesn't exist in eq2. Getting all of the original starting cities back in Norrath would be a great thing to see. They are still missing Innuthole swamp too.

11-02-2007, 06:31 PM	#7
Vyrance Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 203	the next expansion will be the undercontinent of Stormhold, mark my words. or atleast one of the underfoot continents. i believe one of the sony staff was quoted as saying the next expansion may be a place that was talked of before in lore but never actually went to yet in everquest.

11-02-2007, 06:52 PM	#9
Radigazt Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 491	Yep, several times they've said that they really enjoy remaking the old stuff, and it gets the developers jazzed to do it, but they also want to introduce new things as well, so the expansion after RoK will be something entirely new. That said, some sort of underfoot might be a possibility, but I cannot imagine an all underground expansion, so I'd think it would be either part of another expansion, or as part of a new Live Update like Neriak was. With Fallen Gate, Stormhold and now Neriak, I don't think the underfoot would need so much as to constitute an expansion anyway, but it would be a great thing to develop piece-meal with the live updates .... every 3 or 4 updates add a major element of the underfoot (like they did with Neriak) would be very welcome by the player base.

11-03-2007, 02:07 PM	#10
LordPazuzu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,157	I'd rather see Velious as well, but I won't cry if Odus come out first. I have fond memories of Paineel and the Hole.

11-03-2007, 10:57 PM	#12
Mysticdraco Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New York Posts: 96	I think Odus would make a wonderful expansion. The different cultures that arose from the continent really bring a unique feel to it. I feel that with the Erudites left to thier magics they might have created different terrain. Perhaps even areas of Odus have become torn up by powerful magic.

11-04-2007, 02:34 AM	#13
Qandor Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 994	In my mind Velious was the high point of EQ, so I would definitely love to see Velious first and foremost. That being said, they will probably hold off on Velious since it is the largest carrot they have left. What will be intriguing is to see what they would do after a Velious expansion. They do still have this little mess on the moon to resolve.

11-05-2007, 04:39 PM	#16
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	I would rather see an expansion that covers the southern half of what used to be antonica. Good side enters from the lake rathetear area, the evil side from the innothule swamp area. Semi linear where lower level from the outside to harder and harder on the inside. Lake rathetear---rathe mountains----inny swamp rathe lead to broken skull rock area, etc.... b lah

11-05-2007, 04:50 PM	#17
TheSpin Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,587	Jovie@Guk wrote: I would rather see an expansion that covers the southern half of what used to be antonica. Good side enters from the lake rathetear area, the evil side from the innothule swamp area. Semi linear where lower level from the outside to harder and harder on the inside. Lake rathetear---rathe mountains----inny swamp rathe lead to broken skull rock area, etc.... b lah I gotta agree with this one. If I could choose between Odus and Innuthole I'd defiantely choose the swamp. Think about how many heritage quests we have that come from drops found in Guk? I think when EQ1 came out there was very little in the Odus area and it was later on that the kobold dungeon and everything beyond it was added. To me this is another reason to release innuthole before Odus, because the content there is older.

11-06-2007, 01:19 PM	#18
GwenRelentless Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nihilist Dynasty Posts: 153	Southern Antonica would be cool too, but I kinda assumed that it was underwater at this point since it would be located in part of the "known" world so it would be kinda hard to explain how we all missed it right under our noses. Of course there is always the possiblility of a huge event happening where it gets lifted back up out of the water! Anything can happen in a magical world. __________________

11-06-2007, 02:42 PM	#19
DataOutlaw Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 142	The way I see it there are two ways they could decide to bring Odus back into the game. I am not sure which of these I prefer as they would both be interesting in their own way. Free content enhancement. Similar to Neriak they could have a free cotnent update that included what little bit is left of Odus which would probably just include Erudin, Paineel, and Toxxulia forest. Toxx forest would have quests to take newbies up to level 20 and then from there they click the mariner bell to go to Thundering Steppes and Nektulos forest to level like everyone else Major expansion. Probably the newbie area in a much larger Ocean based expansion that would also include Kerra isle, Stonebrunt mountains, The Hole, and maybe even Highpass island as well where the Far Seas Trading Company is now based. #1 would probably happen before the next expansion. #2 woudl happen next year and all the people who are lookign for Veliou snext would scream bloody murder. __________________ DataOutlaw, a man of many alts Animale: Barbarian Ranger Twiggles: Wood Elf Druid Kahnjoor: Gnome Conjurer Starkeepr: High Elf Wizard Grappe: Froglok Mystic Sinbhad: Kerran Paladin Shortuff: Dwarven Templar Positronic: Human Monk Swiftbow: Froglok Ranger Swiftscimitar: Kerran Fury

11-06-2007, 03:13 PM	#20
DuskNightfall Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 48	Cusashorn wrote: In B4 people start saying that Odus isn't large enough to be an expansion pack. Odus as a 2 part Adventure pack, it is a little too big to be one Adventure pack. One good side(kerra) one evil maybe __________________

11-06-2007, 04:13 PM	#21
Mirander_1 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,229	GwenRelentless wrote: Southern Antonica would be cool too, but I kinda assumed that it was underwater at this point since it would be located in part of the "known" world so it would be kinda hard to explain how we all missed it right under our noses. Of course there is always the possiblility of a huge event happening where it gets lifted back up out of the water! Anything can happen in a magical world. There's actually quite a number of pieces of Antonica that we know are still around (from at least one Vhalen post, and an old map that was in the EQ2 PnP RPG). There's Innothule Swamp, part of the Rathe Mountains, Unkempt Woods, Kithicor Forest, and Highpass. __________________ Mirander 90 Wizard Unrest server

11-06-2007, 04:42 PM	#22
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	They could actually get away with an expansion that covered from Odus to the west all the way to Inny swamp to the east and everything they choose in between. I don't see why developers feel the need to lump an expansion in a certain area. Why not spread things around?

11-06-2007, 06:06 PM	#23
Sartredes Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 189	If Odus were to be the next expansion, one thing I thing I think would be cool to add to it is the City of Highbourne, the original Erudite city prior to their move to Odus. On a map, this city was fairly near to Qeynos, but may now exist on some island chain after the rending. I remember from a post that Moorgard made on one of the EQ2 messageboards (either here or a fan site) that the zone was actually made fairly early in development and had some excellent architecture (he specifically mentioned the bridges). If I remember right it was intended to be in the original game, but was removed after evaluation of the performance of the zone was deemed poor. It must have really stunk considering Qeynos Harbor still made it in with its crummy performance. Anyhow, If they could clean this zone up to improve performance, it could be either a new starting city or a new city a la Maj'Dul. __________________ -Sartredes Cogspin Fizzlesplat-Gnome Necromancer/Bhumog Bleedingfist-Ogre Berserker/Akaelo-High Elven Inquisitor Vindicators - Antonia Bayle

11-06-2007, 06:12 PM	#24
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	I think the exile town of the forces of Marr was also completed but not added to the game near freeport. They could maybe make highbourne evil and the marr camp good to offer starter areas closer to the opposing alignment cities.