Is it me or does Assassin T7.5 EoF Gear SUCK?

[IKilled007]

You guys can't self-buff to 200?

Fiendish Villany: 69

2 dps adorns: 20

Shadow Strider Boots: 5

Deadly focus: 83

Strength ring: 28

Total: 205

SOD: 5

Total: 210 OH BOY!!! YIPEE!!! HOORAY!!!

Anyone who called BS doesn't know his own class. Go play a zerker or something.

Now granted, that's not the config I run -- I don't use the boots all the time, and I use the Agility ring for the haste instead of the strength ring for the dps, so you can subtract 33 from the total, but the point still stands -- Assassins can self-buff to over 200 dps, and like the previous poster said, in groups we often hit more than 100 over the cap. The SOD should have haste or double attack on it for us.

[khufure]

ROK comes out very soon.  I really think you guys trying to get soulfire sabre upgraded is a total waste.  I'd rather see SOE concentrate resources on the epic weapons / quests.

[IKilled007]

Timmey@Unrest wrote:

ROK comes out very soon.  I really think you guys trying to get soulfire sabre upgraded is a total waste.  I'd rather see SOE concentrate resources on the epic weapons / quests.

No doubt, but hopefully some dev will start playing an assassin.

[LiquidFlex]

IKilled007 wrote:

You guys can't self-buff to 200?

Fiendish Villany: 69

2 dps adorns: 20

Shadow Strider Boots: 5

Deadly focus: 83

Strength ring: 28

   'Srength Ring' Thats a pretty generic description don't you think?

Total: 205

SOD: 5

Total: 210 OH BOY!!! YIPEE!!! HOORAY!!!

Anyone who called BS doesn't know his own class. Go play a zerker or something.

Now granted, that's not the config I run -- I don't use the boots all the time, and I use the Agility ring for the haste instead of the strength ring for the dps, so you can subtract 33 from the total, but the point still stands -- Assassins can self-buff to over 200 dps, and like the previous poster said, in groups we often hit more than 100 over the cap. The SOD should have haste or double attack on it for us.

Whateva

[IKilled007]

LiquidFlex wrote:

IKilled007 wrote:

You guys can't self-buff to 200?

Fiendish Villany: 69

2 dps adorns: 20

Shadow Strider Boots: 5

Deadly focus: 83

Strength ring: 28

   'Srength Ring' Thats a pretty generic description don't you think?

Total: 205

SOD: 5

Total: 210 OH BOY!!! YIPEE!!! HOORAY!!!

Anyone who called BS doesn't know his own class. Go play a zerker or something.

Now granted, that's not the config I run -- I don't use the boots all the time, and I use the Agility ring for the haste instead of the strength ring for the dps, so you can subtract 33 from the total, but the point still stands -- Assassins can self-buff to over 200 dps, and like the previous poster said, in groups we often hit more than 100 over the cap. The SOD should have haste or double attack on it for us.

Whateva

Pristine imbued acrylia band of strength -- they cost about 1p. And I didn't even count the tunare earring or any of the other dps weapons...

You really don't know your class do you?

[Jayad]

Phht temp buffs and procs. Give me a break. It lasts 45 seconds and a recast of 5 minutes (before modifiers) so at max you're talking ~15% of the time assuming continuous fighting (which most decent guilds chain pull now). The rings have a better % up especially with a dirge so I think it's okay if you count them somewhat.

[IKilled007]

This is ridiculous. The whole point was that +5 dps on our SOD is POINTLESS. We should get haste or crit hit or double attack. I said an assassin could self-buff over 200, and the truth is an assassin can self-buff to 218 or so for up to about a minute at a time. Man, some people are so determined to be obtuse that they will argue that the earth is flat and then make excuses why we can't trust satellite imaging.

Can assassins self-buff to 200 before equipping the SOD or not? The answer is yes. That's all there is to it. The effect is pointless. And so is our gear!!! Seven pieces of brigand gear give them +8 critical hit! 7 pieces of assassin gear give us... +10% poison proc. An ok amount of extra seed poison damage, some extra ignorant bliss triggers (ok, these two are nice), and a ton of wasted stat poison reduction triggers.

[grish]

Yeah im with the others on calling temp buffs and procs BS. Here are some novel ideas since you buff to 200+ dps all the time, and are way over the cap.

1:Replace shadow strider boots, then your SOD can replace the dps you lost.2.Remove your dps adorn on your neck for melee crit adorn3.Dont use a dps proc ring.4.Dont use the SOD.

The big picture is this, we are not the only class using this weapon and I doubt any of the other scout classes can buff anywhere near what we can buff our own dps. When you break down the other weapons, most of them were a no brainer, +spell damage, + shield block, + double attack. So now we got bards, predators and rouges left needing a mod, and 5 dps was most likely what they thought would work the best for all of them. The dps mod is weak, but not weak because we buff to high levels of dps, but its weak because its not equal when you compare it to the other great mods of the other weapons.

In the end, while the 5 dps is getting wasted I am happy with it for the nice fabled 4 second weapon, with a pierce mod, and OMG intelligence! I mean really, do you guys ever see the positive side of things, or just insist about [Removed for Content] and moaning about everything. The whole thread you guys cry our set has no INT, then cry the DPS mod sucks but fail to even mention the good things about the weapon.

[Jayad]

What grish said. I mean, the only better weapon for sure in the game is the Brell contested drop (very rare). The SS is extremely easy to get and it's only worse than ONE weapon? What exactly is the problem? +5 dbl attack would make it overpowered. You could argue some of the SoD rewards are overpowered but that's the real problem. They could have made it crappy like the other epics in the past but instead it's good.

[IKilled007]

Ok, my bad, the weapon is perfect and assassins can't self-buff to 200. Not sure why I'm arguing with people who don't know what they're talking about anyway.

[sandwarrior]

 Yeah, the shoulders are a slap in the face.

[Jayad]

Temp buffs != buffs. pretty simple. I think most top assassins would agree with me here...

[Ganx]

If you're tossing out the idea that the temp buffs don't make a difference, you don't use them enough.

If one of your temp buffs is up, you're wrong. Pop them things as soon as they're up!

[steelbadger]

In that case Covert... Woot! I can self buff up to 100% crit, 20% double attack, 20% aoe auto-attack!! ... what, you mean I can't count Battlegod's Furor as a buff? " /> I'm in awe, I really am. Soulfire is one of the best weapons we can have (after Edged Pick of Earthly Might and Axe of Natural Order). And still you complain because one, ONE, of its bonus' is a bit weak? What next, shall we complain about the Stamina on it? (omgwtfbbq, why not more str??!? kkthxowned). If this weapon was to have a 5% DA it would be second only to the Edged Pick in terms of dps. And it is gotten from a [Removed for Content]-easy (if boring) questline. I fail to see the issue here? What do we, as assassins, want: A good slow weapon with a nice high max dmg. What do we, as assassins, get: A good, slow weapon with a nice high max dmg. So what if it has a +dps bonus on it, which just happens to be almost entirely pointless for us. It is STILL a helluva good weapon that can be picked up for the minimum of heartache. It is not perfect, but that is NOT the point of the game. A perfect weapon would have 100% crit, min dmg of 1, max of 368 (for a DR approx the same as clearcutter), 200 haste bonus, 200 dps bonus, 100% DA, 100% AoE melee, and a auto-deaggro proc for 2k on every successful hit. Thats not on the cards now is it, for what reason? It's unbalanced! A weapon that is attainable through an easy and reasonably shard questline, that only involves clearing a single raid instance should NEVER be nearly as good as an avatar dropped weapon. And it would be nearly as good, where it to have a +5% DA on it.

[grish]

Just made me cringe as I looked back to claymore rewards....

[grish]

IKilled007 wrote:

Ok, my bad, the weapon is perfect and assassins can't self-buff to 200. Not sure why I'm arguing with people who don't know what they're talking about anyway.

You are impossible, close minded, think you know it all type. Ok, is anyone arguing that 5 dps is wasted? Nobody is, the only one you are fighting with on that point is yourself. Maybe you would have a valid complaint if the weapon was Assassin only, or our epic weapon. But its not, its wieldable not only by scouts, but fighters as well. This is the dual wield weapon for anyone who wants a DW weapon, now out of all the classes who might use it, who will it work best for? OMG? Assassins??! Correct me if I am wrong, but does this weapon not have assassin written all over it? Everything short of the dps mod is screaming for us to use. So you can [Removed for Content] and moan all you like, sony did a good thing with this weapon, and not only this weapon the entire weapon selection in this expantion has been phenominal compaired to being limited to the grinning dirk in KOS.

So you can say "Assassins got screwed on OUR sod" but this isnt our SOD, its just the one out of the bunch best for us.

Look at 1 handed swashies with the gladius and +5 shield block. You dont think they got screwed on their sod choice? Or again mages and rangers.

I look back through your old posts and laugh at how you think you know it all, when just a few months back you were a know nothing type, posting stupid screenshots of your dumb macros telling the world you just used decap with BOOM HEADSHOT macros. Give me a break.

Also saw your post when you put side by side our weapon with brawler, again only pointing out what you want to see such as dps vs da, or the few more stats it has, but fail to point out the damage difference of the two. Brawlers have been gimped for quite awhile ,and with the fighters being made more important to raids, im sure it was no accident that the brawler weapon was made like that.

If you insist on complaining keep it about things worth complaining about, like our EOF fabled set and our EOF aa lines. Stop wasting your breath on something nobody is going to agree with you about.

[Golled]

Bottom line, SoD produces one of the best weapons of the tier...5dps is 5dps, would you rather it not be there at all? But don't worry...You might understand some day that you don't look a gift horse in the mouth.*EDIT* Were not the only ones using the saber... Were the only ones that can self buff DPS 90+. If it were class specifice then you might have an argument.