Appearance Item Restrictions - Page 3

SnoesieQ · 09-07-2007, 04:50 AM

Thank you!

I was really looking forward to my ranger wearing leather and now she can.

Wyrmypops · 09-07-2007, 04:54 AM

If I could make cookies I'd send you some Roth'.

But, since I can't, I won't.

But it's the thought that counts, right?

Larogi · 09-07-2007, 05:46 AM

Yeah! My Ranger can stay in leather!

Well, he could always, but know he gets the bonus of chain!

Zoodia · 09-07-2007, 06:06 AM

[I cannot control my vocabulary] that change!If i see this correctly:Fighter can wear Plate, Chain, some Leather and Cloth (Robes, lol)Scout can wear Chain, Leather, ClothPriest can wear Plate or Chain (if class allows), Leather, ClothMages can wear ClothExcept from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!And seriously i dont wanna see a Fighter or Scout in a robe! Kills the ambience imoKill the whole appearance slot idea! or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)

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Snowdonia · 09-07-2007, 08:05 AM

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:

Except from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!

Bloodlines Chronicles quest line.

kreepr · 09-07-2007, 08:15 AM

Amphibia wrote:

Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:
Apple@Venekor wrote:
Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote:
I'd hope that there's implementation of some sort of restriction on PvP servers, ie. must be similar type of equipment or be faction gear, because this is going to be abused on a massive scale in PvP.
Honestly, if anyone falls for it more than once...
It'll happen. And it'll just be one more reason for title-huggers to stay where it's nice & safe.
Ooooh... abused massively like droag, gnoll and vampire illusions already are? Dude, c'mon, you gotto know that isn't true lol. Rothgar: That's awesome, thanks a lot!

LOL if we keep agreeing on things hell might be in trouble?!?!?!?! LOL Bloodfang-- Come on no one can truly take advantage of this at all people need to just look at buffs like they should and no one will be fooled.

Freliant · 09-07-2007, 08:32 AM

Well, I hope I am wrong... but with this change, any distinguishable class distinctions brought about by what the person is wearing has now gone out the window. SOE has on its hands the first Tolkien style MMO where the classes will not show what they normally wear. Chalk one up to the whiners... now don't expect them to back down whenever another change they don't like comes in... they will just kick scream and yell until they get it their way... spoiled brat syndrome if you will. --- I'm out.

Glamourpuss · 09-07-2007, 08:32 AM

Thank you, Rothgar!

Zarafein · 09-07-2007, 08:54 AM

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:

[I cannot control my vocabulary] that change!If i see this correctly:Fighter can wear Plate, Chain, some Leather and Cloth (Robes, lol)Scout can wear Chain, Leather, ClothPriest can wear Plate or Chain (if class allows), Leather, ClothMages can wear ClothExcept from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!And seriously i dont wanna see a Fighter or Scout in a robe! Kills the ambience imoKill the whole appearance slot idea! or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)

and here we go again.Let me shock you before this goes live:

Oh and its hard to find any swashbuckler picture from movies and so on were they actually wear chain.

Zoodia · 09-07-2007, 09:02 AM

Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:
Except from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!
Bloodlines Chronicles quest line.

Only the chestpiece and leggings are shiny plate! Shoulders, Hands, Boots have a matt silver-green touch which doesnt fit to chest&legs. And everyone can wear it, its not special. Also if every mage starts now to wear these items there is no diversity!!! Its boring if everyone wears Bloodline Chronicle armor lol.Give us plate or set "all mages" attribute to all those robes without class requirement. Or remove those appearance slots forever, which would be the best solution imo. Im not assisting tanks in robes, thats a promise

Ofhel · 09-07-2007, 09:05 AM

Thank you very much!

Zoodia · 09-07-2007, 09:11 AM

Lhangion@Innovation wrote:

same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)
and here we go again.Let me shock you before this goes live:

Oh and its hard to find any swashbuckler picture from movies and so on were they actually wear chain.

That picture is ok, i have no problem with a fighter dressed like that knight on that picture. Cloak with some kind of doublet? i dont know the english word for it. But the robes that are actually ingame dont fit for a fighter.And leather items for swash is actually a good change no doubt.

Hukklebuk · 09-07-2007, 09:16 AM

Bravo!

Rustle · 09-07-2007, 09:30 AM

THANKYOU!

I'd have posted sooner, but I've had to explain my cries of glee to my co-workers. I don't think they understand. They're kind of looking at me odd right now. /sigh

Now can we get those sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads?

Hamervelder · 09-07-2007, 10:22 AM

Rothgar wrote:

Even though I know how much people love reading 50-page threads, I thought I'd start a new one anyway. A change should be going out to the Test server later today that removes the previous restrictions on appearance items.You'll now be able to equip anything in an appearance slot that is usable by your class.Greg "Rothgar" SpenceEQ2 Programmer

Woohaw! Great news!

cr0wangel · 09-07-2007, 10:29 AM

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:

or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)

Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers-

Jesdyr · 09-07-2007, 10:43 AM

cr0wangel wrote:

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:
or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)
Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers-

His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ?

Zoodia · 09-07-2007, 10:44 AM

cr0wangel wrote:

Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:
or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)
Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers-

Hey i get +85 STR from my Voice of the Tyrant buff. No problem for me SMILEY

Vatec · 09-07-2007, 10:47 AM

Freliant wrote:

Well, I hope I am wrong... but with this change, any distinguishable class distinctions brought about by what the person is wearing has now gone out the window. SOE has on its hands the first Tolkien style MMO where the classes will not show what they normally wear. Chalk one up to the whiners... now don't expect them to back down whenever another change they don't like comes in... they will just kick scream and yell until they get it their way... spoiled brat syndrome if you will. --- I'm out.

A. What's the big deal with "class distinctions?" Half the time I can't tell templars from scouts anyway, since their "plate" armor looks an awful lot like some of the more popular "chain" armors. Then we've got the the "chain" armors that look like "leather" and the "leather" armor that looked like "cloth." A =lot= of the different armor designs have been recycled from tier to tier, and not always representing the same "weight" armor. Now we'll just have more =option= as to which cloth, leather, chain, or plate look to wear.B. In any case, before the fluff slots, tanks could wear plate, chain, leather, and cloth. And after the change, tanks will be able to wear ... plate, chain, leather, and ... cloth! Wow! So much for "class distinctions...."C. Maybe you don't consider Final Fantasy to be a "Tolkien style MMO," but their warriors have been wearing plate armor that makes them look like a swashbuckler in cloth, right down to the big plumed hat, for at least three years. I'm sure I can come up with other examples if I poke around a bit....D. There's a difference between whining and opposing a design decision using logic. Maybe you didn't read all 50 pages of the previous thread, but I did. And there were a =lot= of logical reasons given for removing the restrictions, just as there were logical reasons for imposing even more restrictions. The devs weighed the issues and decided this was the best compromise between the two extremes.

quasigenx · 09-07-2007, 10:47 AM

Jesdyr@Unrest wrote:

cr0wangel wrote:
Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote:
or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)
Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers-
His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ?

Please go read the 50+ page thread, where you will find that this was discussed at GREAT length, and that the current solution was the run-away landslide winner. Also see the many, many posts by mages who agree with the change.

Jesdyr · 09-07-2007, 11:21 AM

quasigenx wrote:

Please go read the 50+ page thread, where you will find that this was discussed at GREAT length, and that the current solution was the run-away landslide winner. Also see the many, many posts by mages who agree with the change.

I did read it .. his post is still a valid request. These rules are not fair .. the Devs know this but gave into the more vocal of the community. Personally, either way is fine with me. Just because I am ok with it does not change the argument.

Sapphirius · 09-07-2007, 11:43 AM

Jesdyr@Unrest wrote:

I did read it .. his post is still a valid request. These rules are not fair .. the Devs know this but gave into the more vocal of the community. Personally, either way is fine with me. Just because I am ok with it does not change the argument.

I'd rather see the game cater to the majority than the minority. Too many times, the devs have caved into the minority and punished the majority for the voices and complaints of only a small handful of people. Too many times, their solution to "improving" a class or small group of people hasn't been to make them better but to make everybody else worse. It's about time they stepped forward and went the opoosite direction.

Already there are a number of very unpopular changes in GU 38 from the status item nerf to the 2 -econd casting bar to interact with widgets to the Devastation Fist nerf that made the ability practically useless in the area that brawlers needed it most even to the new rule of widgets taking scouts and mages out of stealth and invis.

This is the one thing that a lot of people agreed would somewhat make up for the negative changes happening in the coming update, and with its previous restrictions, it was not only arbitrary and contradicted itself, but it disappointed a huge number of people.

Much love to ya, Rothgar! <3

miliskel · 09-07-2007, 11:45 AM

Jesdyr@Unrest wrote:

His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ?

yup, shamefully devs dont listen to mages as it seems, as well as brawlers and bards..but they get options in thisd change..

Rast · 09-07-2007, 11:53 AM

Cool, now I won't have to tank a raid in status clothing in protest! SMILEY

(didn't want to do it, but would of)

Now, I just need to find out what I'm going to wear SMILEY SMILEY SMILEY

Sapphirius · 09-07-2007, 11:57 AM

Jalathan@Lucan DLere wrote:

Now, I just need to find out what I'm going to wear

Find your old cobalt. It was smexy! Of course, the parade armor is really nice too, but the cobalt looked good on Jal. Oh! and the venders do have the non-stat armor in the original appearances before LU 24 screwed appearances over. (Curse you, Beghn! Death by chocolate for j00!) That indium plate would look really hawt on Jal I'm sure. All that silver with the blue flame motif...

Rast · 09-07-2007, 12:02 PM

I was thinking about the new feysteel look (the white plate with gold embossing) or trying to gather a set of the t5 fabled rubicite which is kind of a white satiny look.

Don't think I still have my cobalt though and I didn't have a complete set of the prenerf stuff anyways (so it wasn't matching).

Jesdyr · 09-07-2007, 12:16 PM

Sapphirius wrote:

This is the one thing that a lot of people agreed would somewhat make up for the negative changes happening in the coming update, and with its previous restrictions, it was not only arbitrary and contradicted itself, but it disappointed a huge number of people.

So .. this change that everyone agrees has no effect on actual gameplay, makes up for "gameplay altering" changes that people are so very upset about that they were more vocal about changes to this fluff than the changes they think are negative?Every GU seems to have people coming out and crying DOOM and GLOOM. Every GU destroys the game if you read these forums. The previous restrictions were fair and did exactly what the system was being designed to do. People wanted more and SoE is giving it to them. I say why stop there? It should be anyone can wear anything they want or the old rules should go back in.LONG LIVE THE TANK MAGE ! ([Removed for Content] I miss UO)

Jesdyr · 09-07-2007, 12:18 PM

Sapphirius wrote:

the non-stat armor in the original appearances before LU 24 screwed appearances over. (

So I have been wearing the old look all this time? ... wow .. Oh ..someone pointed out the armour changes being made in this GU also revert much of the player crafted plate to the old look (dont know if it is true).. Domino has said she plans on looking at the leather and cloth in the future as well, so you might get your wish.

Vonotar · 09-07-2007, 12:19 PM

Rothgar wrote:

Even though I know how much people love reading 50-page threads, I thought I'd start a new one anyway. A change should be going out to the Test server later today that removes the previous restrictions on appearance items.You'll now be able to equip anything in an appearance slot that is usable by your class.Greg "Rothgar" SpenceEQ2 Programmer

Fantastic Rothgar, thank you for listening to the community, this mage appreciates it.P.s. You can all wear whatever robes you want, I don't care, just be aware they mess up your guild cloak.Vonotar... the mage that doesn't wear robes!

09-07-2007, 04:54 AM	#62
Wyrmypops Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 799	If I could make cookies I'd send you some Roth'. But, since I can't, I won't. But it's the thought that counts, right? __________________

09-07-2007, 07:45 AM	#65
Shiverr Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 282	T h a n k s ! __________________ Tanx and Scouts

09-07-2007, 08:05 AM	#66
Snowdonia Server: Runnyeye Guild: Majestic Rank: Mistress Tester Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,212	Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: Except from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages! Bloodlines Chronicles quest line.

09-07-2007, 08:15 AM	#67
kreepr General Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 681	Amphibia wrote: Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote: Apple@Venekor wrote: Bloodfang@Nagafen wrote: I'd hope that there's implementation of some sort of restriction on PvP servers, ie. must be similar type of equipment or be faction gear, because this is going to be abused on a massive scale in PvP. Honestly, if anyone falls for it more than once... It'll happen. And it'll just be one more reason for title-huggers to stay where it's nice & safe. Ooooh... abused massively like droag, gnoll and vampire illusions already are? Dude, c'mon, you gotto know that isn't true lol. Rothgar: That's awesome, thanks a lot! LOL if we keep agreeing on things hell might be in trouble?!?!?!?! LOL Bloodfang-- Come on no one can truly take advantage of this at all people need to just look at buffs like they should and no one will be fooled.

09-07-2007, 08:32 AM	#68
Freliant Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,016	Well, I hope I am wrong... but with this change, any distinguishable class distinctions brought about by what the person is wearing has now gone out the window. SOE has on its hands the first Tolkien style MMO where the classes will not show what they normally wear. Chalk one up to the whiners... now don't expect them to back down whenever another change they don't like comes in... they will just kick scream and yell until they get it their way... spoiled brat syndrome if you will. --- I'm out. __________________ "Change is inevitable" - AM Sephastus 80 Wizard - Retired Onosphire 80 Guardian- Retired

09-07-2007, 04:50 AM	#61
SnoesieQ Tester Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 323	Thank you! I was really looking forward to my ranger wearing leather and now she can.

09-07-2007, 05:46 AM	#63
Larogi Tester Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 67	Yeah! My Ranger can stay in leather! Well, he could always, but know he gets the bonus of chain!

09-07-2007, 06:06 AM	#64
Zoodia Server: Splitpaw Guild: House of X Rank: -X- Main Raider Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	[I cannot control my vocabulary] that change!If i see this correctly:Fighter can wear Plate, Chain, some Leather and Cloth (Robes, lol)Scout can wear Chain, Leather, ClothPriest can wear Plate or Chain (if class allows), Leather, ClothMages can wear ClothExcept from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!And seriously i dont wanna see a Fighter or Scout in a robe! Kills the ambience imoKill the whole appearance slot idea! or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!)

09-07-2007, 08:32 AM	#69
Glamourpuss Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 34	Thank you, Rothgar! __________________

09-07-2007, 08:54 AM	#70
Zarafein Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 471	Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: [I cannot control my vocabulary] that change!If i see this correctly:Fighter can wear Plate, Chain, some Leather and Cloth (Robes, lol)Scout can wear Chain, Leather, ClothPriest can wear Plate or Chain (if class allows), Leather, ClothMages can wear ClothExcept from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages!And seriously i dont wanna see a Fighter or Scout in a robe! Kills the ambience imoKill the whole appearance slot idea! or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) and here we go again.Let me shock you before this goes live: Oh and its hard to find any swashbuckler picture from movies and so on were they actually wear chain.

09-07-2007, 09:02 AM	#71
Zoodia Server: Splitpaw Guild: House of X Rank: -X- Main Raider Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote: Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: Except from Faction Rewards i havent found any Plate, Chain or Leather items for Mages! Bloodlines Chronicles quest line. Only the chestpiece and leggings are shiny plate! Shoulders, Hands, Boots have a matt silver-green touch which doesnt fit to chest&legs. And everyone can wear it, its not special. Also if every mage starts now to wear these items there is no diversity!!! Its boring if everyone wears Bloodline Chronicle armor lol.Give us plate or set "all mages" attribute to all those robes without class requirement. Or remove those appearance slots forever, which would be the best solution imo. Im not assisting tanks in robes, thats a promise

09-07-2007, 09:05 AM	#72
Ofhel General Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ystad, Sweden Posts: 5	Thank you very much! __________________

09-07-2007, 09:11 AM	#73
Zoodia Server: Splitpaw Guild: House of X Rank: -X- Main Raider Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	Lhangion@Innovation wrote: same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) and here we go again.Let me shock you before this goes live: Oh and its hard to find any swashbuckler picture from movies and so on were they actually wear chain. That picture is ok, i have no problem with a fighter dressed like that knight on that picture. Cloak with some kind of doublet? i dont know the english word for it. But the robes that are actually ingame dont fit for a fighter.And leather items for swash is actually a good change no doubt.

09-07-2007, 09:16 AM	#74
Hukklebuk Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 229	Bravo! __________________ Lost............

09-07-2007, 09:30 AM	#75
Rustle Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	THANKYOU! I'd have posted sooner, but I've had to explain my cries of glee to my co-workers. I don't think they understand. They're kind of looking at me odd right now. /sigh Now can we get those sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads?

09-07-2007, 10:22 AM	#76
Hamervelder Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,585	Rothgar wrote: Even though I know how much people love reading 50-page threads, I thought I'd start a new one anyway. A change should be going out to the Test server later today that removes the previous restrictions on appearance items.You'll now be able to equip anything in an appearance slot that is usable by your class.Greg "Rothgar" SpenceEQ2 Programmer Woohaw! Great news! __________________ Elhonas Warden of Mayhem, Antonia Bayle

09-07-2007, 10:29 AM	#77
cr0wangel Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 594	Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers-

09-07-2007, 10:43 AM	#78
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	cr0wangel wrote: Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers- His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ?

09-07-2007, 10:44 AM	#79
Zoodia Server: Splitpaw Guild: House of X Rank: -X- Main Raider Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	cr0wangel wrote: Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers- Hey i get +85 STR from my Voice of the Tyrant buff. No problem for me

09-07-2007, 10:47 AM	#80
Vatec Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 473	Freliant wrote: Well, I hope I am wrong... but with this change, any distinguishable class distinctions brought about by what the person is wearing has now gone out the window. SOE has on its hands the first Tolkien style MMO where the classes will not show what they normally wear. Chalk one up to the whiners... now don't expect them to back down whenever another change they don't like comes in... they will just kick scream and yell until they get it their way... spoiled brat syndrome if you will. --- I'm out. A. What's the big deal with "class distinctions?" Half the time I can't tell templars from scouts anyway, since their "plate" armor looks an awful lot like some of the more popular "chain" armors. Then we've got the the "chain" armors that look like "leather" and the "leather" armor that looked like "cloth." A =lot= of the different armor designs have been recycled from tier to tier, and not always representing the same "weight" armor. Now we'll just have more =option= as to which cloth, leather, chain, or plate look to wear.B. In any case, before the fluff slots, tanks could wear plate, chain, leather, and cloth. And after the change, tanks will be able to wear ... plate, chain, leather, and ... cloth! Wow! So much for "class distinctions...."C. Maybe you don't consider Final Fantasy to be a "Tolkien style MMO," but their warriors have been wearing plate armor that makes them look like a swashbuckler in cloth, right down to the big plumed hat, for at least three years. I'm sure I can come up with other examples if I poke around a bit....D. There's a difference between whining and opposing a design decision using logic. Maybe you didn't read all 50 pages of the previous thread, but I did. And there were a =lot= of logical reasons given for removing the restrictions, just as there were logical reasons for imposing even more restrictions. The devs weighed the issues and decided this was the best compromise between the two extremes. __________________ 54+ Ranger 28+ Berserker, 28+ Troubador, 26+ Fury, 25+ Templar, 25+ Bruiser, 22+ Inquisitor 21+ Dirge, 20+ Paladin, 15+ Conjuror, 14+ Assassin, 14+ Defiler, 13+ Shadowknight and a few others 90 Provisioner, 41+ Woodworker, 34+ Carpenter 41+ Tailor, 30+ Armorer, 29+ Weaponsmith 70+ Jeweler, 51+ Alchemist, 29+ Sage Living and dying on OASIS since 11/09/04

09-07-2007, 10:47 AM	#81
quasigenx Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 400	Jesdyr@Unrest wrote: cr0wangel wrote: Zoodia@Splitpaw wrote: or give us the same possibilities as other classes. (fighter wear robes, then i want to wear plate!) Want a tower shield too? /dump his shield on him Oh, is it too heavy? -snickers- His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ? Please go read the 50+ page thread, where you will find that this was discussed at GREAT length, and that the current solution was the run-away landslide winner. Also see the many, many posts by mages who agree with the change. __________________

09-07-2007, 11:21 AM	#82
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	quasigenx wrote: Please go read the 50+ page thread, where you will find that this was discussed at GREAT length, and that the current solution was the run-away landslide winner. Also see the many, many posts by mages who agree with the change. I did read it .. his post is still a valid request. These rules are not fair .. the Devs know this but gave into the more vocal of the community. Personally, either way is fine with me. Just because I am ok with it does not change the argument.

09-07-2007, 11:43 AM	#83
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Jesdyr@Unrest wrote: I did read it .. his post is still a valid request. These rules are not fair .. the Devs know this but gave into the more vocal of the community. Personally, either way is fine with me. Just because I am ok with it does not change the argument. I'd rather see the game cater to the majority than the minority. Too many times, the devs have caved into the minority and punished the majority for the voices and complaints of only a small handful of people. Too many times, their solution to "improving" a class or small group of people hasn't been to make them better but to make everybody else worse. It's about time they stepped forward and went the opoosite direction. Already there are a number of very unpopular changes in GU 38 from the status item nerf to the 2 -econd casting bar to interact with widgets to the Devastation Fist nerf that made the ability practically useless in the area that brawlers needed it most even to the new rule of widgets taking scouts and mages out of stealth and invis. This is the one thing that a lot of people agreed would somewhat make up for the negative changes happening in the coming update, and with its previous restrictions, it was not only arbitrary and contradicted itself, but it disappointed a huge number of people. Much love to ya, Rothgar! <3 __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

09-07-2007, 11:45 AM	#84
miliskel Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 432	Jesdyr@Unrest wrote: His post was valid. Maybe we should get a post going about how UNFAIR this is and try to get this delayed so that they can make anything go into the appearance slots ? yup, shamefully devs dont listen to mages as it seems, as well as brawlers and bards..but they get options in thisd change..

09-07-2007, 11:53 AM	#85
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	Cool, now I won't have to tank a raid in status clothing in protest! (didn't want to do it, but would of) Now, I just need to find out what I'm going to wear __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

09-07-2007, 11:57 AM	#86
Sapphirius Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,399	Jalathan@Lucan DLere wrote: Now, I just need to find out what I'm going to wear Find your old cobalt. It was smexy! Of course, the parade armor is really nice too, but the cobalt looked good on Jal. Oh! and the venders do have the non-stat armor in the original appearances before LU 24 screwed appearances over. (Curse you, Beghn! Death by chocolate for j00!) That indium plate would look really hawt on Jal I'm sure. All that silver with the blue flame motif... __________________ Decorating is 1% inspiration, 9% work, and 90% tweaking. I've spent many an hour just moving things I've placed an inch or so over "that-a-way."

09-07-2007, 12:02 PM	#87
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	I was thinking about the new feysteel look (the white plate with gold embossing) or trying to gather a set of the t5 fabled rubicite which is kind of a white satiny look. Don't think I still have my cobalt though and I didn't have a complete set of the prenerf stuff anyways (so it wasn't matching). __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

09-07-2007, 12:16 PM	#88
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Sapphirius wrote: This is the one thing that a lot of people agreed would somewhat make up for the negative changes happening in the coming update, and with its previous restrictions, it was not only arbitrary and contradicted itself, but it disappointed a huge number of people. So .. this change that everyone agrees has no effect on actual gameplay, makes up for "gameplay altering" changes that people are so very upset about that they were more vocal about changes to this fluff than the changes they think are negative?Every GU seems to have people coming out and crying DOOM and GLOOM. Every GU destroys the game if you read these forums. The previous restrictions were fair and did exactly what the system was being designed to do. People wanted more and SoE is giving it to them. I say why stop there? It should be anyone can wear anything they want or the old rules should go back in.LONG LIVE THE TANK MAGE ! ([Removed for Content] I miss UO)

09-07-2007, 12:18 PM	#89
Jesdyr Server: Unrest Guild: Curmudgeons Rank: Senior Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,710	Sapphirius wrote: the non-stat armor in the original appearances before LU 24 screwed appearances over. ( So I have been wearing the old look all this time? ... wow .. Oh ..someone pointed out the armour changes being made in this GU also revert much of the player crafted plate to the old look (dont know if it is true).. Domino has said she plans on looking at the leather and cloth in the future as well, so you might get your wish.

09-07-2007, 12:19 PM	#90
Vonotar Server: Butcherblock Loremaster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,697	Rothgar wrote: Even though I know how much people love reading 50-page threads, I thought I'd start a new one anyway. A change should be going out to the Test server later today that removes the previous restrictions on appearance items.You'll now be able to equip anything in an appearance slot that is usable by your class.Greg "Rothgar" SpenceEQ2 Programmer Fantastic Rothgar, thank you for listening to the community, this mage appreciates it.P.s. You can all wear whatever robes you want, I don't care, just be aware they mess up your guild cloak.Vonotar... the mage that doesn't wear robes!